Ampheromine [2065865]

Guide to Using Love Juice Most Efficiently

 

February 2021 Update: Energy for attacking and revives is reduced BY 10 (So attacks cost 15 energy and revives cost 15-65 energy depending on your faction upgrades, per this article: https://www.torn.com/newspaper.php#!/articles/2044

February 7 Update: Revive costs will be reduced as well as per this post: https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/?p=threads&f=4&t=16136687&b=0&a=0

Hello and welcome to another of Ampheromine's long guides that you probably won't read. My name is Ampheromine and I am writing this with a feeling of annoyance because as we speak I forgot to open my bazaar before I flew, but whatever.

What is love juice?
Love juice is a drug introduced a couple of years ago. When ingested, it reduces attack and revive cost by 10 energy and increases passive speed by 50% and passive dexterity by 25%. It can only be used from February 13 12:00 TCT to February 15 12:00 TCT.

What if I try to use love juice any other time?
It gives you a snarky message that basically doesn't let you use it, but attempting to use it outside of Valentine's Day does not consume the item (thankfully). You just wasted a bit of time trying.

Why use love juice?
Because you're not stupid.

Where do I find love juice?
Love juice is expected to drop in the city (at the docks at from 12:00 TCT to February 13th 23:59 TCT on the 14th) and its effects begin from February 13 12:00 TCT to February 15 12:00 TCT. Love juice, like all city finds, will remain in the city until you pick it up, so don't be lazy, go check. However, very very lamentably, it may not spawn for everyone.

If you're too lazy to click in the city, you goddamn sloth, you, you can buy love juice from the item market or from a private seller, but be warned, the closer we get to Valentine's Day, the higher the prices are sure to skyrocket. (I myself am holding a few that I hope to sell for a good chunk. PM me for details.)

How do I maximize the effects of love juice?
I will write this portion with chaining in mind because I'm not a reviver. Feel free to post an addendum for reviving here if you want to. Here are the facts:

Xanax cooldown: 6 to 8 hours
Love Juice cooldown: 5 to 8 hours
4 Xanax = 1000 e = 40 attacks normally (66 attacks while under the effects of love juice)

You want to stack your Xanax or boosters or whatever you kooky kids are huffing well in advance of the attacking event, to cover for potential overdoses or missing out on your timer.

4 Xan: If you are starting your stack from 0 energy and intend to use Xanax for your whole 1k energy, start stacking at least 32-48 hours before your attacking event. This ensures that you can ingest Love Juice right before the attacking event to reap the full benefits of it.

3 Xan + Natural E: If you are starting your stack at 150 energy and intend to use Xanax up to 900 energy, start stacking 24-32 hours before your attacking event. This gives you more time to do whatever, but that is 100 energy you "lose" out on, so be mindful.

2 Xan + cans: If you are doing a half Xan, half can stack (which I recommend, but costs more than the 3 Xan + natural e bar), start stacking Xanax 38 hours before your attacking event (assuming you want 0 booster cooldown when the event begins).

The Xanax will only take 16 hours at max to get you to 500 energy, but if you take 11 X-Mass (most efficient), that is 22 hours of booster cooldown. If you don't give a f**k about booster cooldown (I don't), you can start as late as 16 hours before the attacking event. You are recommended to use the two Xanax first, then your cans, because if you overdose and lose your can energy, you'll be pissed.

My can recommendations depend ENTIRELY on your booster personal perks (booster cooldown, restaurant, % addition to can gains), so you'll have to do that math yourself, but I'll use myself as an example. THC has 50%+ energy gain from cans and +24 hour booster cooldown (shameless plug). This amounts to being able to use 25 cans at once, at 45 energy per Taurine Elite or X-Mass, for a total maximum of 1125 energy from cans alone in a 48 hour period. There is a lot of flexibility here.

Taurine Elite/X-Mass = 45 e (50% voracity)
Rockstar Rudolph/Red Cow = 38 e (50% voracity)
Santa Shooters/Munster = 30 e (50% voracity)
Crocozade = 23 e (50% voracity)

• Damp Valley = 15 e (50% voracity)

Goose Juice = 8 e (50% voracity)

If you are a stickler for even numbers (who isn't?), you could use the following:

9 X-Mass = 405 energy
+ 10 Goose Juice = 80 energy
+ 1 Damp Valley = 15 energy
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20 cans = 500 e

Or you could just suck it up and use 11 X-Mass for 495 energy and save booster cooldown, you weirdo.

What should I do after the initial drug cooldown?

There is some debate about whether, after stacking e and using LJ right at the start of the attacking event, one should use another LJ or use a Xanax. Here is my take, supplemented by my wonderful idea people Lilypop, Chex, and Adam.

Pros to using LJ 2+ times:

• It works somewhat like Vicodin and provides a passive stat boost of +50% to Speed and +25% to Dexterity for its duration.
• You can't overdose on it, so there's no potential loss of energy.
• If you're using any other means of energy other than natural e (heretoforth referenced as "paid energy"), it more than makes up for what you "lose" by not taking Xanax.

Cons to using LJ 2+ times:

• It's pricy as shit. If you didn't stock up on it when it was sub-10m, you will easily pay upwards of 15m as we get closer to the event. If you use it at every cooldown possible, you're looking at a bill of no less than 153.6m (9.6 drug occasions x 16m per LJ at the time of this edit)
• You don't get the 250 energy you'd get using Xanax so you would only be able to use natural energy, company specials, and boosters to supplement the LJ. Poor you.

Pros to using Xanax after initial LJ:

• It's much, much easier on the wallet. A scant 820k vs. over 16m at the time of this posting, per drug. Even if you're not dirt poor, I'm sure you can still appreciate saving some money.
• You get 250 energy (10 attacks) toward your attacking event. Woo!

Cons to using Xanax after initial LJ:

• The ever looming possibility of overdose can be too much for weak hearts to stomach.
• It decreases your stats passively through the drug's effects + addiction. But you knew that already.

Edit: It's a little late, but this year, you could use LJ as late as 11:59:59 on the last day and the effects carried over for the length of the cooldown. Hopefully this is also the case next year so you all can maximize further.

February 15, 2025 Edit: it's confirmed personally that you can use the last love juice right before the event ends and reap the benefits for the duration of the cooldown. Here's a log seconds before my drug cooldown ended. My event timer is 13:00 TCT.

 

12:35:00 - 15/02/25 You used some Love Juice (I would've used it later but I had real life stuff going on)

18:55:44 - 15/02/25 You used 15 energy anonymously attacking _UNKNOWN_ and defeated them (chain #22407) [view]

Math people, please check my math.
Logic people, please check my logic.
I am open to critical feedback.


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Andyman [471591]

R+ I'll note that if you have several free refills and the Ugly Energy Book... Valentine's Day is a great time to use them! In fact, if you have 200 free refills while reading Ugly Energy while under the influence of Love Juice... you have the potential to single-handedly complete a 5,000 chain by yourself! That said, you would have the potential to gain an astronomical amount of level-experience, attack/respect merits, mug-proceeds, and weapon experience in a matter of a few hours. [img]/images/v2/emotions/grin.png[/img]

Andyman [471591]

R+ I'll note that if you have several free refills and the Ugly Energy Book... Valentine's Day is a great time to use them! In fact, if you have 200 free refills while reading Ugly Energy while under the influence of Love Juice... you have the potential to single-handedly complete a 5,000 chain by yourself! That said, you would have the potential to gain an astronomical amount of level-experience, attack/respect merits, mug-proceeds, and weapon experience in a matter of a few hours. [img]/images/v2/emotions/grin.png[/img]

Andyman [471591]

R+ I'll note that if you have several free refills and the Ugly Energy Book... Valentine's Day is a great time to use them! In fact, if you have 200 free refills while reading Ugly Energy while under the influence of Love Juice... you have the potential to single-handedly complete a 5,000 chain by yourself! That said, you would have the potential to gain an astronomical amount of level-experience, attack/respect merits, mug-proceeds, and weapon experience in a matter of a few hours. [img]/images/v2/emotions/grin.png[/img]

Fatbears [2197270]

How long does it take to get 200 refills? Maybe I'll convince a couple guys to go afk with me and smash a 25k on our return

Andyman [471591]

R+ I'll note that if you have several free refills and the Ugly Energy Book... Valentine's Day is a great time to use them! In fact, if you have 200 free refills while reading Ugly Energy while under the influence of Love Juice... you have the potential to single-handedly complete a 5,000 chain by yourself! That said, you would have the potential to gain an astronomical amount of level-experience, attack/respect merits, mug-proceeds, and weapon experience in a matter of a few hours. [img]/images/v2/emotions/grin.png[/img]

Fatbears [2197270]

How long does it take to get 200 refills? Maybe I'll convince a couple guys to go afk with me and smash a 25k on our return

Ampheromine [2065865]

Roughly one refill per week of inactivity. Good luck staying off Torn!

Andyman [471591]

R+ I'll note that if you have several free refills and the Ugly Energy Book... Valentine's Day is a great time to use them! In fact, if you have 200 free refills while reading Ugly Energy while under the influence of Love Juice... you have the potential to single-handedly complete a 5,000 chain by yourself! That said, you would have the potential to gain an astronomical amount of level-experience, attack/respect merits, mug-proceeds, and weapon experience in a matter of a few hours. [img]/images/v2/emotions/grin.png[/img]

Fatbears [2197270]

How long does it take to get 200 refills? Maybe I'll convince a couple guys to go afk with me and smash a 25k on our return

Ampheromine [2065865]

Roughly one refill per week of inactivity. Good luck staying off Torn!

Fatbears [2197270]

ouch :(

LouBaker [1162207]

your logic is floored with the following sentence . "[size=12][color=#1c7cd6]you could just suck it up and use 11 X-Mass for 495 energy and save booster cooldown, you weirdo.[/color]"[/size]