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    Thread created on 03:29:21 - 13/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    So I was messing around in Vladar's spreadsheet trying to find a cheaper yet similarly effective alternative to the famous "Happy Jump". Then I came across this guide talking about the Loli/Reindeer Jump, and so I decided to base my research around optimizing that, since it had a similar objective to what I was trying to do. After hours of calculations and experimentation, I've found what I'm now calling the Choco Jump. If this is already a thing, great, but as a noob, having a more recent guide explaining it wouldn't hurt.

    DECEMBER 2024 UPDATE: DUE TO CRIMES 2.0 The Bag of Candy Kisses COSTS THE SAME AS BBC AND GIVES 15 MORE HAPPY

    The Choco Jump is pretty simple, and it's also something you can do on a daily basis if you time it right.

    • Make sure to fill up your Natural Energy
    • Pop a Xan like the trap lord you are
    • Wait for drug cooldown to end..travel, race, trade, or if you're dumb like me, waste all of your money shooting yourself in Russian Footlette :D
    • Consume x48 Big Boxes of Chocolate you fatty >:)
    • Pop an ecstasy pill, put on your seat-belt and get ready for the ride O~O
    • Train.. wrestling drag queens or whatever it is that you do
    • Use point refill and wrestle them some more you whore >:)
    • Experience true noob gainzzz

    Total Cost: $2.4m

    Personal Gainz:





    Happy Jump Gains:







    Quick Mafs:

    6 days of Choco Jumping = 13,650 GAINZ (1,543 MORE than a Happy Jump)! ($14.1M)

    7 days of Choco Jumping = 15,925 GAINZ (3,818 MORE THAN HAPPY JUMP)! ($16.5M)

    Happy Jump Gains/Cost: 12,107 ($25M - $27M) EDIT: You'll notice this is lower than what the spreadsheet showed in the image. This is because I mistakenly put 1300 energy instead of 1150 energy. Thanks to Sweetiest for pointing it out!

    E-DVDs are not dead though. You save so much from the Choco Jump, that if you are someone who can afford the Happy Jump, you could easily add an E-DVD to your Choco Jumps once or twice a week. Respective to my stats, adding 1 E-DVD adds ~500 gains. So if you did it twice/week (which is still in Happy Jump price range), you'd gain an extra 1,000/week. Obviously this number would go up more as you unlock better gyms and such and if you're in a Adult Novelty Store company that has enough stars to double E-DVD happy gains.



    As you can see, the Choco Jump (as far as I can tell), is the best bang for your buck when it comes to training. It also has a much higher success rate than the Happy Jump since you only have to consume 2 drugs (Xan and Ecstasy vs 4 Xans and 1 Ecstasy) meaning less ODs and not as much rehab. You have to do it 6-7 days out of the week to compare to the Happy Jump, but even if you can't afford that, and only do it a few days out of the week, you'll still be getting half of a Happy Jump/week which as a new player is GRRREAT! I'm still a new player myself, (playing for a little over a month now), so I could have made some mistakes so if you notice any, please let me know. If this works out for you, also please let me know! I hope you all found this helpful and can go on ahead to start doing Choco Jumps! :D


    !!!!!!!!!!!!HALF CHOCO JUMP METHOD IS BEST METHOD!!!!!!!!!

    BONUS METHOD (2x/Day Choco Jump): Expert Level - Half Choco Method

    • Do Choco Method except only take 22-24 Big Boxes of Chocolate MAX (I recommend 22 for more flexibility)
    • Since you only have a 11-12 hour Booster Cooldown, you can do this method twice/day if you time it right.

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BEST METHOD ABOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Cost: $22.87M ($4.1M less than HJ)

    Gainz: 23.5k - 23.8k (1.97x NEARLY 2X HJ FOR PRICE LESS THAN 1X HJ)



    EDIT - HOU5E'S CHOCO JUMP SCHEDULE SHEETS:





    Again, thank you to HOU5E for these very useful schedule sheets :D

    Last edited by IceeSwirl on 18:04:02 - 19/12/24 (1 year ago)
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    Posted on 03:56:08 - 13/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    Nice effort.
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    Posted on 04:17:42 - 13/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=61&t=16058232&b=0&a=0

    Prime example. :) 
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    Posted on 04:30:35 - 13/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    Hi, we have a similar thread here.

    https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=61&t=16064472&b=0&a=0&start=0&to=18865332 
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    Posted on 04:45:27 - 13/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    MrCommander [2133988]

    [url=https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=61&t=16058232&b=0&a=0]https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=61&t=16058232&b=0&a=0[/url] Prime example. :) 
    Good to see others making cheaper alternatives to Happy Jumps. You'd obviously make significantly more gains using my method, but I'd definitely recommend your method to players under lvl 15 tho :P
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    Posted on 04:50:09 - 13/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    PamPamIu [2142253]

    Hi, we have a similar thread here. https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=61&t=16064472&b=0&a=0&start=0&to=18865332 
    Yeah I actually linked that thread in my article (2nd line). This method is basically the optimized version of that method :D Compared to the "Lolly Jump" it only requires 1 Xan instead of 3, uses big boxes of chocolate for better happy gains, includes 25 point energy refill, gives significantly more gains, and costs nearly the same. More gains and way cheaper than the "Reindeer Jump" every 3 days method as well, since you use this method on a daily basis :P

    To portray why my method is better, if I did the Reindeer Jump every 3 days, (with my current stats), I'd acquire ~9k stat gains/6 days compared to 13,650 stat gains/6 days. That's 4,650 more stat gains for $900k less. Absolutely no reason to do the Reindeer Jump honestly. Even if you did it 3x/week it would still be slightly less (-50) than the Choco Jump 6x/week, and way more expensive, around Happy Jump costs for less stats, and more trouble due to much higher drug consumption. Happy Jump = 4 Xans, 1 ecstasy while Reindeer Jump 3x/week = 9 xans and 3 ecstasy.

    Even if you used my method and swapped out the big boxes of chocolates for reindeer droppings and did it 6x/week, it still wouldn't be anywhere near worth it money wise, and would only give around +75 gains compared to 7 days of Choco Jumping.You'd be better off doing 2 Happy Jumps/week if you were balling at that level lol xP 

     
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    Posted on 06:06:22 - 13/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    how much stats should I stop doing this?
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    Posted on 08:25:29 - 13/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    fuad [2088400]

    how much stats should I stop doing this?
    Since 6 Choco Jumps/week is nearly equivalent to a Happy Jump, if we look at the graphs in this thread  and look at when Happy Jumps fall off, we see that it seems to be around the 400k mark. So 400k in individual stats, and 1.6M total stats. From there, according to the graphs in that thread, you're going to want to just stick with Natural Energy, Xans, and Refills.
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    Posted on 08:36:16 - 13/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    Good information, good Ghetto jump
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    Posted on 13:00:50 - 13/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    1 full HJ uses 1150 energy, not 1300.

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    Posted on 14:09:49 - 13/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    I've been doing this to 400k, can't afford 25m a day of dvd's
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    Posted on 07:23:47 - 14/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    Sweetiest [2187330]

    1 full HJ uses 1150 energy, not 1300.
    150 Natural Energy + 1000 Energy from the 4 Xans (250 energy each) + 1 Refill for another 150 energy = 1300 Energy :)
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    Posted on 07:35:00 - 14/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    Hmm.. hmmm.. sure..?  

     

    I do lite-choco jumps (49 chochos + ecstasy + refill) and get like 500-700 twice (refill) a day.

    Thats not even 2k.

    With one/two day of preparation for a real happy jump (1k e, 5eDvd, ecstasy + refill) which got me like 13k for my main stat and another 6k in another one. So I doubled one of my stats just with a HUGE amount of money.  

     

     

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    Posted on 08:13:31 - 14/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    zorndyuke [2177535]

    Hmm.. hmmm.. sure..?     I do lite-choco jumps (49 chochos + ecstasy + refill) and get like 500-700 twice (refill) a day. Thats not even 2k. With one/two day of preparation for a real happy jump (1k e, 5eDvd, ecstasy + refill) which got me like 13k for my main stat and another 6k in another one. So I doubled one of my stats just with a HUGE amount of money.      
    Choco Jumps are already "lite" enough. If you're going to do choco jumps, do the entire thing. You'll get more bang for your buck. Try doing a full Choco Jump and multiply your gains by 6 to see what they would be like compared to a Happy Jump. Based on my calculations, a 6 days of Choco Jumps should be nearly equivalent to a full Happy Jump, and if you do 7 days of Choco Jumps, it should be higher than a full Happy Jump according to the graphs.

    Also, keep in mind that gains will vary depending on what gym you use. I'm at Pioneer Fitness so a full Happy Jump would only give me 13k stats in total compared to your 19k. 6 days of Choco Jumps would give the same amount for significantly cheaper. If you can afford E-DVDs, go for it for more gains.
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    Posted on 08:20:34 - 14/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    Nice to see people still finding new ways to improve on their stats, especially now edvd's have gotten so tremendously expensive. 

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    Posted on 13:48:32 - 14/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    Sweetiest [2187330]

    1 full HJ uses 1150 energy, not 1300.

    IceeSwirl [2200840]

    150 Natural Energy + 1000 Energy from the 4 Xans (250 energy each) + 1 Refill for another 150 energy = 1300 Energy :)
    Better is if you redo your math. Doesn't work.

    You cannot have 150 Natural Energy + 1000 Energy from the 4 Xans (250 energy each) + 1 Refill for another 150 energy = 1300 Energy

     

    Or you have never stacked. The stack stops at 1000. If you start at 0, you will reach 1000. If you start at 150, again, you cannot go over 1000. It is a limit of the game.

    Usually to stack to 1000 you start from zero.

    If you start from 150 normally you stop to stack at 900 (otherwise you simply waste 150e from xan).

    The normal (and full) HJ is done with 1150 energy (a 1000 stack + 1 refill)

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    Posted on 21:02:23 - 14/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    Thanks for saving me the research.

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    Posted on 23:15:43 - 14/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    Sweetiest [2187330]

    1 full HJ uses 1150 energy, not 1300.

    IceeSwirl [2200840]

    150 Natural Energy + 1000 Energy from the 4 Xans (250 energy each) + 1 Refill for another 150 energy = 1300 Energy :)

    Sweetiest [2187330]

    Better is if you redo your math. Doesn't work. You cannot have 150 Natural Energy + 1000 Energy from the 4 Xans (250 energy each) + 1 Refill for another 150 energy = 1300 Energy   Or you have never stacked. The stack stops at 1000. If you start at 0, you will reach 1000. If you start at 150, again, you cannot go over 1000. It is a limit of the game. Usually to stack to 1000 you start from zero. If you start from 150 normally you stop to stack at 900 (otherwise you simply waste 150e from xan). The normal (and full) HJ is done with 1150 energy (a 1000 stack + 1 refill)
    Oh I see. I didn't know about the 1000 energy cap. Thanks for correcting me! Like I said, I'm new to the game, and the whole reason I took the time to try and find a better alternative to the Happy Jump is because I didn't want to Happy Jump aka I never Happy Jumped. Happy Jumps being only 1150 energy instead of 1300 means that Choco Jumps are significantly better than Happy Jumps if you only plan on Happy Jumping 1x/week.

    I'll edit that into the post. Thanks :D
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    Posted on 23:31:59 - 14/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    Another nice thread for the intrepid field mouse on a budget to read!

    Overtime the small things add up. Not being able to afford the best training doesnt mean you should just give up and not even try.

    Do something cheaper like this instead! It all helps you to get better even if it isnt the best way.

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    Oh I see. I didn't know about the 1000 energy cap. Thanks for correcting me! Like I said, I'm new to the game, and the whole reason I took the time to try and find a better alternative to the Happy Jump is because I didn't want to Happy Jump aka I never Happy Jumped. Happy Jumps being only 1150 energy instead of 1300 means that Choco Jumps are significantly better than Happy Jumps if you only plan on Happy Jumping 1x/week. I'll edit that into the post. Thanks :D
    No, doesn't means that Choco Jumps are significantly better than Happy Jumps.

    Means only that for an HJ you use 1150 energy.

    Says that Choco jumps are better than HJ is misleading. It all depends on what you want, how long time you want to reach it, and how much you are willing to pay to get it.

     

    There is a misconception in your original post: Choco jump is equal if not better than an HJ and cost nothing. It is not true.

    What you gain in 1 week (but i still didn't checked your math) with choco, it is obtainable in 30h with a single HJ. And in the time that you keep to do a single gain "like an HJ", who really does HJ earn five times more in the same 6 days.

    This meanings that in your 6 days I can be 5 times more stronght than you.

    Or 25 times more stronght than you in 1 month.

    So, no, "choco jump" is not better than HJ. But it is true that it is "better than nothing".

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