Disclaimer: All statements below are based strictly on user data only, therefore is subject to error. Please use at your own discretion.

Q: What is the Army?

Is is one of six jobs available by default starting at level 1. Most players join to either spy stats or with the intention of using job points on Bear the Brunt job special. Below is a table that shows requirements and when specials unlock. Source




Q: Should I join the Army?

• With recent updates the Army is not the fastest or an efficient method of obtaining stats and is not recommended for most players as it gives the worst possible return on time/job points.
• It is only recommended for players who tend to be inactive for long periods (i.e. vacation) and/or cannot log on once every two or three days, or for other reasons cannot hold any other type of job/company.
• For the other 99% of torn who actively play the game, it is strongly recommended that you refer to the table below and join a player run company that best suits your situation.

Q: How long does it take to reach General position?

• At least 40 Days worth of Job Points to promote yourself from Private to General.
• Recommended ways to gain work stats are: Join Player run companies & pay for extra director trains, or join the Education job.
• Refer to NikolaTesla's City Career Fast-Tracking Guide for more details.

Q: When do I get job points?

• Around 18:00:00 - 18:03:00 Torn Time

Q: How much Defense / Strength will I get using ( X ) of Army Points?

(Note: points are used in "bulk" and not one at a time)

• Estimate your gains using the table of player data in the first post. Table at top of page is organized by descending order of starting defense or strength.
• Warning: using the special Brute Force for Strength gains yields roughly 30% less stats per gain compared to the defense special and is therefore not recommended.

Q: Is it better to use my Army Points one at a time or in "bulk" (all at once)?

• 
  For the best results use your all your Army points at one time.

Q: What is the most Defense or Strength I can get per point spent on the Army special?

• with a starting Defense of 50 million you will get Defe3500.5 per Point
• 
  with a starting Strength of 50 million you will get 2500.5 per Point

Q: What is the most Strength I can get per point spent on the Fitness Center special

• With a starting Strength of 50 million you will get roughly 10000 per Job Point

Q: Does Happiness make a difference when using Army Points?

• 
  No, there are only two factors which affect your gains: 1.) Your starting applicable stat, either Defense or Strength and 2.) the Amount of Job Points you use on the associated job special.
• For example if you wanted to use the Defense Special "Bear the brunt" only your defense before spending any points and the amount of Army Points you use on it will affect your stat gain.
• Post by Ched for Proof

Q: Which special is better for me the Army or Fitness Center?

• As a broad rule of thumb it is generally recommended to use the Army special while your starting applicable stat is below one million.

• 
  For example when using the Strength Special w/ a starting strength of 12.5m : 1 Point used on Army Special = 1 Point used in a Fitness Center
• This means if you have 12.5m Strength you should seriously consider joining a Fitness Center.

Q: What do most people do in the Army?

• 
  They use 1,100 Army Points and raise their defense to around 25,000 before spending points, to gain about 1m Defense to bypass low gains early on.
• It's highly recommended that you calculate your own playtime/job points/money/stats growth potential and compare it to what you would gain in the Army as most often the Army is not the best option available to you.

Q: How long does it take to get 1.25 million Defense through the Army?

• 
  about 4 months (if you start with about 25,000 Defense at the General Rank)

Q: How long would it take to get 50 million (stat cap) Defense with just Army Points?

• 
  It takes about 13,928 Army Points to go from 1.25m to 50m using only the Army Special
• 
  Saving 13,928 Army Points takes 1,393 Days or roughly 3.8 Years (@ General Rank)

Q. How long does it take to get 50m Defense in a gym?

• 
  From 1.25 million defense If you spend 1500 energy to train a day, w/ 4500 happy, +2% gym stat gain,in a 7 dot gym or better it takes about 65 days.

Q. What is an efficient way to train battle stats?

• 
  Refer to Hank's Training Guide

Q. Stat Increasing Company Specials : Quick Comparison Guide (See Variables At Bottom of this post)

Notes:

The list above assumes that gym train % increases are calculated similarly to steadfast faction perks.

Companies with +% gain per train(Strip Clubs/Fitness Centers) can greatly outperform other w/ enough energy supplements like Xanax, FHC, Cans, Newsletter bonuses, Books ect.
**Variables for above calculations**

• 10* company ranking
• Georges Gym @ 10E per train
• All Capped Stats (50 million)
• +8% gym gains from perks
• 4500 Happy (Gains from happiness are from before happiness changes and limit increased to 99,999)
• 600 Daily Energy Use

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You changed 1,300 army points for 2,213,799.4664 defense.
Gain Per Point: 1,702.92
Base Def: 130,926.2741
Happy: 3600*
Gym: Frontline Fitness
Manual labor: 17,198
Intelligence: 13,332
Endurance: 8,192

My own gain and confirmation as of 7/17/14 gains are still what they used to be Pre-Respo for anyone still worried.

• RESPO will probably already take over a month to fix
• 50 days is a relatively short period in torn
• Army seemslike it's already in it's 10-star form (compared to other starter Jobs)
• Don't see why Army would get nerfed since Company specials are already much stronger
• Have not read any argument with solid reasoning behind a nerf