ZickyJackz [497258]

No, There are plenty of women who get pregnant and go 6+ Months without even knowing they were pregnant, changing nothing of their daily lives. And the baby grows. Is that the norm? No, but it's not uncommon, either. Yeah, just not a good comparison.

Unlucky [2472585]

Oh they go 6 months without feeding the embryo through the umbilical cord and providing it with heat and a place to grow? Interesting.

ZickyJackz [497258]

Once an Egg is fertilized, it will grow without the women needing to do anything. Literally no change in their life at all. No conscious effort even needed. That's literally the point. That's why it's a false equivalency.

CRLF [2095076]

Yeah, you're an expert on pregnancy. As someone who has actually been pregnant, carried a baby to term, delivered him and raised him, let me reply for the women of Torn --- "Literally no change in their life at all" --- [img]https://media.tenor.com/3MBb9OcZK-IAAAAC/kitty-forman-debra-jo-rupp.gif[/img] [img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e8/3e/ff/e83efff147c45e884da3e73f867be4a8.gif[/img] [img]https://media3.giphy.com/media/UpIh8akCSPs9zJoghM/giphy.gif[/img] [img]https://media.tenor.com/KtIagqwYiP4AAAAM/laughing-hysterically-laughing.gif[/img]

ZickyJackz [497258]

Way to go, you can take someone out of context. Want a medal? In context: [url=https://www.webmd.com/baby/what-is-cryptic-pregnancy]WebMD[/url] About women who have Cryptic Pregnancies. Carrying up to labor, never knowing, or doing anything different whatsoever. That was the context in which that statement was made, to Fisty, who suggested that feeding a baby through an umbilical cord was somehow an action a woman could be mindful of. So I explained it would happen, without them knowing. I really can't believe I have to explain that, I mean, I really don't, do I? I think we both know you're just being intellectually dishonest.

ZickyJackz [497258]

No, There are plenty of women who get pregnant and go 6+ Months without even knowing they were pregnant, changing nothing of their daily lives. And the baby grows. Is that the norm? No, but it's not uncommon, either. Yeah, just not a good comparison.

Unlucky [2472585]

Oh they go 6 months without feeding the embryo through the umbilical cord and providing it with heat and a place to grow? Interesting.

ZickyJackz [497258]

Once an Egg is fertilized, it will grow without the women needing to do anything. Literally no change in their life at all. No conscious effort even needed. That's literally the point. That's why it's a false equivalency.

Unlucky [2472585]

Oh they go 6 months without feeding the embryo through the umbilical cord and providing it with heat and a place to grow? Interesting.

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ZickyJackz [497258]

Once an Egg is fertilized, it will grow without the women needing to do anything. Literally no change in their life at all. No conscious effort even needed. That's literally the point. That's why it's a false equivalency.

CRLF [2095076]

Yeah, you're an expert on pregnancy. As someone who has actually been pregnant, carried a baby to term, delivered him and raised him, let me reply for the women of Torn --- "Literally no change in their life at all" --- [img]https://media.tenor.com/3MBb9OcZK-IAAAAC/kitty-forman-debra-jo-rupp.gif[/img] [img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e8/3e/ff/e83efff147c45e884da3e73f867be4a8.gif[/img] [img]https://media3.giphy.com/media/UpIh8akCSPs9zJoghM/giphy.gif[/img] [img]https://media.tenor.com/KtIagqwYiP4AAAAM/laughing-hysterically-laughing.gif[/img]

ZickyJackz [497258]

Way to go, you can take someone out of context. Want a medal? In context: [url=https://www.webmd.com/baby/what-is-cryptic-pregnancy]WebMD[/url] About women who have Cryptic Pregnancies. Carrying up to labor, never knowing, or doing anything different whatsoever. That was the context in which that statement was made, to Fisty, who suggested that feeding a baby through an umbilical cord was somehow an action a woman could be mindful of. So I explained it would happen, without them knowing. I really can't believe I have to explain that, I mean, I really don't, do I? I think we both know you're just being intellectually dishonest.

Kajal [2542083]

compromise: your point about pregnancy causing no perceptible changes to the woman's body whatsoever is applicable to the [url=https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24428-cryptic-pregnancy]0.04% of pregnancies that go unnoticed until delivery[/url]

ZickyJackz [497258]

1 in 2500. Now let's divide that by the 167 million women in America, and it's 67k. Rounded up. Not all that rare, really. And the number is much greater that the Pregnancy goes to 6+ months, when a baby becomes viable.

Bhappychap [2270497]

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Bhappychap [2270497]

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Odin-All-Father [2010524]

Entirely agree, the baby ain’t their body tho.

Bhappychap [2270497]

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Odin-All-Father [2010524]

Entirely agree, the baby ain’t their body tho.

Bhappychap [2270497]

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Bhappychap [2270497]

[img]https://i.imgflip.com/7axa8v.jpg[/img]

Odin-All-Father [2010524]

Entirely agree, the baby ain’t their body tho.

Bhappychap [2270497]

[img]https://i.imgflip.com/7axa8v.jpg[/img]

Odin-All-Father [2010524]

Entirely agree, the baby ain’t their body tho.

Bhappychap [2270497]

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Odin-All-Father [2010524]

Correct, the belly is, glad we keep finding things to agree on! the baby inside ain’t tho.

ZickyJackz [497258]

Once an Egg is fertilized, it will grow without the women needing to do anything. Literally no change in their life at all. No conscious effort even needed. That's literally the point. That's why it's a false equivalency.

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CRLF [2095076]

Yeah, you're an expert on pregnancy. As someone who has actually been pregnant, carried a baby to term, delivered him and raised him, let me reply for the women of Torn --- "Literally no change in their life at all" --- [img]https://media.tenor.com/3MBb9OcZK-IAAAAC/kitty-forman-debra-jo-rupp.gif[/img] [img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e8/3e/ff/e83efff147c45e884da3e73f867be4a8.gif[/img] [img]https://media3.giphy.com/media/UpIh8akCSPs9zJoghM/giphy.gif[/img] [img]https://media.tenor.com/KtIagqwYiP4AAAAM/laughing-hysterically-laughing.gif[/img]

ZickyJackz [497258]

Way to go, you can take someone out of context. Want a medal? In context: [url=https://www.webmd.com/baby/what-is-cryptic-pregnancy]WebMD[/url] About women who have Cryptic Pregnancies. Carrying up to labor, never knowing, or doing anything different whatsoever. That was the context in which that statement was made, to Fisty, who suggested that feeding a baby through an umbilical cord was somehow an action a woman could be mindful of. So I explained it would happen, without them knowing. I really can't believe I have to explain that, I mean, I really don't, do I? I think we both know you're just being intellectually dishonest.

Kajal [2542083]

compromise: your point about pregnancy causing no perceptible changes to the woman's body whatsoever is applicable to the [url=https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24428-cryptic-pregnancy]0.04% of pregnancies that go unnoticed until delivery[/url]

ZickyJackz [497258]

1 in 2500. Now let's divide that by the 167 million women in America, and it's 67k. Rounded up. Not all that rare, really. And the number is much greater that the Pregnancy goes to 6+ months, when a baby becomes viable.

WhackedMaki [2587660]

Dang, I forgot that every woman in America randomly, without planning it beforehand, becomes pregnant every year. Since .025% of the population is enough to prove something, the fact that there are 40 times as many trans people in the US (1% roughly) must mean that that's perfectly normal too, and should receive full support from everyone.

CRLF [2095076]

Yeah, you're an expert on pregnancy. As someone who has actually been pregnant, carried a baby to term, delivered him and raised him, let me reply for the women of Torn --- "Literally no change in their life at all" --- [img]https://media.tenor.com/3MBb9OcZK-IAAAAC/kitty-forman-debra-jo-rupp.gif[/img] [img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e8/3e/ff/e83efff147c45e884da3e73f867be4a8.gif[/img] [img]https://media3.giphy.com/media/UpIh8akCSPs9zJoghM/giphy.gif[/img] [img]https://media.tenor.com/KtIagqwYiP4AAAAM/laughing-hysterically-laughing.gif[/img]

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ZickyJackz [497258]

Way to go, you can take someone out of context. Want a medal? In context: [url=https://www.webmd.com/baby/what-is-cryptic-pregnancy]WebMD[/url] About women who have Cryptic Pregnancies. Carrying up to labor, never knowing, or doing anything different whatsoever. That was the context in which that statement was made, to Fisty, who suggested that feeding a baby through an umbilical cord was somehow an action a woman could be mindful of. So I explained it would happen, without them knowing. I really can't believe I have to explain that, I mean, I really don't, do I? I think we both know you're just being intellectually dishonest.

Kajal [2542083]

compromise: your point about pregnancy causing no perceptible changes to the woman's body whatsoever is applicable to the [url=https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24428-cryptic-pregnancy]0.04% of pregnancies that go unnoticed until delivery[/url]

ZickyJackz [497258]

1 in 2500. Now let's divide that by the 167 million women in America, and it's 67k. Rounded up. Not all that rare, really. And the number is much greater that the Pregnancy goes to 6+ months, when a baby becomes viable.

WhackedMaki [2587660]

Dang, I forgot that every woman in America randomly, without planning it beforehand, becomes pregnant every year. Since .025% of the population is enough to prove something, the fact that there are 40 times as many trans people in the US (1% roughly) must mean that that's perfectly normal too, and should receive full support from everyone.

CRLF [2095076]

I just read an article about dropping population numbers that tied it not to women wanting to work and not have kids, but to women not finding a partner they'd want to raise kids with. It suggested one way out of the plummeting population numbers is to incentivize women who want to have kids without a partner. That could lead to some very interesting social dynamics....

CRLF [2095076]

Yeah, you're an expert on pregnancy. As someone who has actually been pregnant, carried a baby to term, delivered him and raised him, let me reply for the women of Torn --- "Literally no change in their life at all" --- [img]https://media.tenor.com/3MBb9OcZK-IAAAAC/kitty-forman-debra-jo-rupp.gif[/img] [img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e8/3e/ff/e83efff147c45e884da3e73f867be4a8.gif[/img] [img]https://media3.giphy.com/media/UpIh8akCSPs9zJoghM/giphy.gif[/img] [img]https://media.tenor.com/KtIagqwYiP4AAAAM/laughing-hysterically-laughing.gif[/img]

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ZickyJackz [497258]

Way to go, you can take someone out of context. Want a medal? In context: [url=https://www.webmd.com/baby/what-is-cryptic-pregnancy]WebMD[/url] About women who have Cryptic Pregnancies. Carrying up to labor, never knowing, or doing anything different whatsoever. That was the context in which that statement was made, to Fisty, who suggested that feeding a baby through an umbilical cord was somehow an action a woman could be mindful of. So I explained it would happen, without them knowing. I really can't believe I have to explain that, I mean, I really don't, do I? I think we both know you're just being intellectually dishonest.

Kajal [2542083]

compromise: your point about pregnancy causing no perceptible changes to the woman's body whatsoever is applicable to the [url=https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24428-cryptic-pregnancy]0.04% of pregnancies that go unnoticed until delivery[/url]

ZickyJackz [497258]

1 in 2500. Now let's divide that by the 167 million women in America, and it's 67k. Rounded up. Not all that rare, really. And the number is much greater that the Pregnancy goes to 6+ months, when a baby becomes viable.

WhackedMaki [2587660]

Dang, I forgot that every woman in America randomly, without planning it beforehand, becomes pregnant every year. Since .025% of the population is enough to prove something, the fact that there are 40 times as many trans people in the US (1% roughly) must mean that that's perfectly normal too, and should receive full support from everyone.

CRLF [2095076]

I just read an article about dropping population numbers that tied it not to women wanting to work and not have kids, but to women not finding a partner they'd want to raise kids with. It suggested one way out of the plummeting population numbers is to incentivize women who want to have kids without a partner. That could lead to some very interesting social dynamics....

ZickyJackz [497258]

Way to go, you can take someone out of context. Want a medal? In context: [url=https://www.webmd.com/baby/what-is-cryptic-pregnancy]WebMD[/url] About women who have Cryptic Pregnancies. Carrying up to labor, never knowing, or doing anything different whatsoever. That was the context in which that statement was made, to Fisty, who suggested that feeding a baby through an umbilical cord was somehow an action a woman could be mindful of. So I explained it would happen, without them knowing. I really can't believe I have to explain that, I mean, I really don't, do I? I think we both know you're just being intellectually dishonest.

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Kajal [2542083]

compromise: your point about pregnancy causing no perceptible changes to the woman's body whatsoever is applicable to the [url=https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24428-cryptic-pregnancy]0.04% of pregnancies that go unnoticed until delivery[/url]

ZickyJackz [497258]

1 in 2500. Now let's divide that by the 167 million women in America, and it's 67k. Rounded up. Not all that rare, really. And the number is much greater that the Pregnancy goes to 6+ months, when a baby becomes viable.

WhackedMaki [2587660]

Dang, I forgot that every woman in America randomly, without planning it beforehand, becomes pregnant every year. Since .025% of the population is enough to prove something, the fact that there are 40 times as many trans people in the US (1% roughly) must mean that that's perfectly normal too, and should receive full support from everyone.

CRLF [2095076]

I just read an article about dropping population numbers that tied it not to women wanting to work and not have kids, but to women not finding a partner they'd want to raise kids with. It suggested one way out of the plummeting population numbers is to incentivize women who want to have kids without a partner. That could lead to some very interesting social dynamics....

WhackedMaki [2587660]

I wonder if that article was written by someone on the right. There's a huge problem going on there right now because so many right wing ideals tend towards "traditional misogyny" of the "Women belong in the kitchen and raising the kids," mentality. It's pushing a lot of single women away from the right because of it. I mean just look at that stupid conservative dating app The Right Stuff, only men signed up for it because no women wanted to deal with them. There are definitely arguments about the dating scene in general nowadays with apps mostly being for hookups as compared to dating. Also the fact that two young people nowadays often can't even afford a place to live by themselves, let alone the ability to raise a child when we have no built in support system for it in America.

Bhappychap [2270497]

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Odin-All-Father [2010524]

Entirely agree, the baby ain’t their body tho.

WhackedMaki [2587660]

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Bhappychap [2270497]

It's not attached the mother. It literally is part of the mother. Part of her body. Grown because a different part of the mother, that is also growing needs things from the mothers circulatory and other body systems. Him claiming the baby isn't part of her body is like saying the stomach, lungs, pancreas, liver, kidneys aren't part of the body. Those are all organs, in a sac, in the body. A baby, is inside a sac, inside the body, and the egg that produced the baby has been with the mother since she was born. He just chooses to granulated things for his religious or social views, instead of viewing women as completely autonomous humans.