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    Posted on 21:19:23 - 22/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    Small update: added Le Redditor's V1 version of Political Map to original post.
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    Posted on 03:08:02 - 23/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    Torn Political Map V2. 



    • Added 39th's (Originally independent) territories to JFK's.
    • Added IA's (Originally in SA + Proxies) territories to JFK's.
    • Added MMCP's (Originally independent) territories to JFK's.


    • Added 709's (Originally SA + IBB) territories to NS'.
    • Added DA/DoA's (Originally Independent) territories to NS'.
    • Added NUKE's (Originally independent) territories to NS'.


    • Split SA + Proxies to Brotherhood of War and RoD. BoW consist of DOS and BoW. RoD is basically SA and friends. Some members of BoW are also in the RoD alliance.
    • Added FTW's (Originally independent) territories to RoD's (Not officially in RoD but they're surrounded so might as well add).
    • Made IBB independent (was told that SA are allies, not racketeer partners).


    • Added The Commission (was not in V1 map)
    • Added an additional Wild West territory in the north west of Torn.
    • Reworked borders in the west.


    • Added Nomad's (was not in V1 map) territories to CR.
    • Added proxies north-west of NUKE's (was not in V1 map) territories to CR.

    Free Joei, Queen of Micronesia

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    Posted on 09:42:45 - 23/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    Wait, are you saying SA's influence on Torn is basically vanished? I can't believe that to be the case.
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    Posted on 11:47:35 - 23/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    Ata [2507441]

    Wait, are you saying SA's influence on Torn is basically vanished? I can't believe that to be the case.
    Doesn’t take much looking at the map to know it’s not been dominated by SA for a long time
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    Posted on 12:06:49 - 23/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    Ata [2507441]

    Wait, are you saying SA's influence on Torn is basically vanished? I can't believe that to be the case.
    Rod is SA controlled.
    OMG YURI_ORLOV I HATE HIM!!!
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    Posted on 12:34:06 - 23/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    Ata [2507441]

    Wait, are you saying SA's influence on Torn is basically vanished? I can't believe that to be the case.

    Yuri_Orlov [175440]

    Rod is SA controlled.
    Incorrect , however some founding members of RoD are now SA
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    Posted on 13:02:39 - 23/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    WaterPR00F [2574615]

    Torn Political Map V2.



    • Added 39th's (Originally independent) territories to JFK's.
    • Added IA's (Originally in SA + Proxies) territories to JFK's.
    • Added MMCP's (Originally independent) territories to JFK's.


    • Added 709's (Originally SA + IBB) territories to NS'.
    • Added DA/DoA's (Originally Independent) territories to NS'.
    • Added NUKE's (Originally independent) territories to NS'.


    • Split SA + Proxies to Brotherhood of War and RoD. BoW consist of DOS and BoW. RoD is basically SA and friends. Some members of BoW are also in the RoD alliance.
    • Added FTW's (Originally independent) territories to RoD's (Not officially in RoD but they're surrounded so might as well add).
    • Made IBB independent (was told that SA are allies, not racketeer partners).


    • Added The Commission (was not in V1 map)
    • Added an additional Wild West territory in the north west of Torn.
    • Reworked borders in the west.


    • Added Nomad's (was not in V1 map) territories to CR.
    • Added proxies north-west of NUKE's (was not in V1 map) territories to CR.
    DA/DoA do not pay racket proceeds to any faction :D

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    Posted on 14:25:08 - 23/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    WaterPR00F [2574615]

    Torn Political Map V2.



    • Added 39th's (Originally independent) territories to JFK's.
    • Added IA's (Originally in SA + Proxies) territories to JFK's.
    • Added MMCP's (Originally independent) territories to JFK's.


    • Added 709's (Originally SA + IBB) territories to NS'.
    • Added DA/DoA's (Originally Independent) territories to NS'.
    • Added NUKE's (Originally independent) territories to NS'.


    • Split SA + Proxies to Brotherhood of War and RoD. BoW consist of DOS and BoW. RoD is basically SA and friends. Some members of BoW are also in the RoD alliance.
    • Added FTW's (Originally independent) territories to RoD's (Not officially in RoD but they're surrounded so might as well add).
    • Made IBB independent (was told that SA are allies, not racketeer partners).


    • Added The Commission (was not in V1 map)
    • Added an additional Wild West territory in the north west of Torn.
    • Reworked borders in the west.


    • Added Nomad's (was not in V1 map) territories to CR.
    • Added proxies north-west of NUKE's (was not in V1 map) territories to CR.

    HuntedGhost [2568914]

    DA/DoA do not pay racket proceeds to any faction :D
    He didn’t say it was rackets map it’s who’s land it is and who protects that land I believe.
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    Posted on 15:01:45 - 23/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    Mysteria [276863]

    He didn’t say it was rackets map it’s who’s land it is and who protects that land I believe.
    Yes. Something like this.
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    Posted on 16:35:04 - 23/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    Arsonist Endeavour is not part of HB
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    Posted on 17:40:51 - 23/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    WaterPR00F [2574615]

    Torn Political Map V2.



    • Added 39th's (Originally independent) territories to JFK's.
    • Added IA's (Originally in SA + Proxies) territories to JFK's.
    • Added MMCP's (Originally independent) territories to JFK's.


    • Added 709's (Originally SA + IBB) territories to NS'.
    • Added DA/DoA's (Originally Independent) territories to NS'.
    • Added NUKE's (Originally independent) territories to NS'.


    • Split SA + Proxies to Brotherhood of War and RoD. BoW consist of DOS and BoW. RoD is basically SA and friends. Some members of BoW are also in the RoD alliance.
    • Added FTW's (Originally independent) territories to RoD's (Not officially in RoD but they're surrounded so might as well add).
    • Made IBB independent (was told that SA are allies, not racketeer partners).


    • Added The Commission (was not in V1 map)
    • Added an additional Wild West territory in the north west of Torn.
    • Reworked borders in the west.


    • Added Nomad's (was not in V1 map) territories to CR.
    • Added proxies north-west of NUKE's (was not in V1 map) territories to CR.

    HuntedGhost [2568914]

    DA/DoA do not pay racket proceeds to any faction :D

    Mysteria [276863]

    He didn’t say it was rackets map it’s who’s land it is and who protects that land I believe.
    Then why isn't the whole west side marked as SA?
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    Posted on 17:49:14 - 23/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    I may be mistaken but I believe this whole area is "Gooberville".



    NS has nothing to do with 709
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    Posted on 22:32:38 - 23/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    WaterPR00F [2574615]

    Torn Political Map V2.



    • Added 39th's (Originally independent) territories to JFK's.
    • Added IA's (Originally in SA + Proxies) territories to JFK's.
    • Added MMCP's (Originally independent) territories to JFK's.


    • Added 709's (Originally SA + IBB) territories to NS'.
    • Added DA/DoA's (Originally Independent) territories to NS'.
    • Added NUKE's (Originally independent) territories to NS'.


    • Split SA + Proxies to Brotherhood of War and RoD. BoW consist of DOS and BoW. RoD is basically SA and friends. Some members of BoW are also in the RoD alliance.
    • Added FTW's (Originally independent) territories to RoD's (Not officially in RoD but they're surrounded so might as well add).
    • Made IBB independent (was told that SA are allies, not racketeer partners).


    • Added The Commission (was not in V1 map)
    • Added an additional Wild West territory in the north west of Torn.
    • Reworked borders in the west.


    • Added Nomad's (was not in V1 map) territories to CR.
    • Added proxies north-west of NUKE's (was not in V1 map) territories to CR.

    HuntedGhost [2568914]

    DA/DoA do not pay racket proceeds to any faction :D

    Mysteria [276863]

    He didn’t say it was rackets map it’s who’s land it is and who protects that land I believe.

    Penicillin [1517799]

    Then why isn't the whole west side marked as SA?
    RoD protected the west with or without SA over there.
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    Posted on 23:08:52 - 23/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    WaterPR00F [2574615]

    Torn Political Map V2.



    • Added 39th's (Originally independent) territories to JFK's.
    • Added IA's (Originally in SA + Proxies) territories to JFK's.
    • Added MMCP's (Originally independent) territories to JFK's.


    • Added 709's (Originally SA + IBB) territories to NS'.
    • Added DA/DoA's (Originally Independent) territories to NS'.
    • Added NUKE's (Originally independent) territories to NS'.


    • Split SA + Proxies to Brotherhood of War and RoD. BoW consist of DOS and BoW. RoD is basically SA and friends. Some members of BoW are also in the RoD alliance.
    • Added FTW's (Originally independent) territories to RoD's (Not officially in RoD but they're surrounded so might as well add).
    • Made IBB independent (was told that SA are allies, not racketeer partners).


    • Added The Commission (was not in V1 map)
    • Added an additional Wild West territory in the north west of Torn.
    • Reworked borders in the west.


    • Added Nomad's (was not in V1 map) territories to CR.
    • Added proxies north-west of NUKE's (was not in V1 map) territories to CR.

    HuntedGhost [2568914]

    DA/DoA do not pay racket proceeds to any faction :D

    Mysteria [276863]

    He didn’t say it was rackets map it’s who’s land it is and who protects that land I believe.

    Penicillin [1517799]

    Then why isn't the whole west side marked as SA?

    Mysteria [276863]

    RoD protected the west with or without SA over there.
    That makes perfect sense and screw those guys that say you are just trying to divide SA into separate names so that it looks like SA doesn't control the whole west side. Those guys don't know what they are talking about.
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    Posted on 23:21:48 - 23/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    The way I see it, if the following 2 are both answered "No" then the land is independent:

    1) Are the factions holding the land paying any racket proceeds -or money equivalent- to another faction?
    2) Would the factions holding the land pay any racket proceeds -or money equivalent- to another faction if a racket were to spawn?

    Essentially all land "protection" is pretty much about rackets or any other form of monetary compensation as far as I see because you can't extort respect. Diplomatically obtained land doesn't suggest dependence. Which is why I suggested DA/DoA are independent :) But of course I am not a leader in any faction so it is possible that some of you all know some other form of extortion etc. in that case feel free to educate me if you would like :D

    If by "who is protecting lands/whose land it is" we mean that "the assumed protector can kick the faction in question out so the faction in question is not independent" then colour the whole map NS.
    Last edited by HuntedGhost on 23:21:59 - 23/05/21

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    Posted on 23:51:07 - 23/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    That was a pretty interesting read and changed how I view the quasi-hierarchy of the game, actually.

    I didn't realize groups like Relentless, CR and DA were as competitive as they are. They're doing a lot with often less than half the factions/bodies of their contemporaries. It's pretty impressive.
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    Posted on 14:11:52 - 24/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    HuntedGhost [2568914]

    The way I see it, if the following 2 are both answered "No" then the land is independent:

    1) Are the factions holding the land paying any racket proceeds -or money equivalent- to another faction?
    2) Would the factions holding the land pay any racket proceeds -or money equivalent- to another faction if a racket were to spawn?

    Essentially all land "protection" is pretty much about rackets or any other form of monetary compensation as far as I see because you can't extort respect. Diplomatically obtained land doesn't suggest dependence. Which is why I suggested DA/DoA are independent :) But of course I am not a leader in any faction so it is possible that some of you all know some other form of extortion etc. in that case feel free to educate me if you would like :D

    If by "who is protecting lands/whose land it is" we mean that "the assumed protector can kick the faction in question out so the faction in question is not independent" then colour the whole map NS.
    Thank you, I am thinking of putting this into an expanded dictionary because we talk a lot about protection and dependence lately

    2) Would the factions holding the land pay any racket proceeds -or money equivalent- to another faction if a racket were to spawn?
    That's impossible to say. Nobody knows where a racket will re-emerge and HoF factions do not go asking around other factions "hey, we will be taking racket proceeds should any racket occur in your teritorry". To add to that, a wise leader once told me that at the moment a racket would occur on his territory, he would immediately receive half a dozen angry mails from HoF factions, demanding tribute.

    That said, I believe the 2) definition should look like this:

    2) Is a faction being threatened with raids by another faction should they not pay the racket proceeds?

    We all know this happens a lot, that's where faction bullying comes from in the first place but by definition this is hard or impossible to prove unless someone speaks out.
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    Posted on 21:29:40 - 24/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    HuntedGhost [2568914]

    The way I see it, if the following 2 are both answered "No" then the land is independent:

    1) Are the factions holding the land paying any racket proceeds -or money equivalent- to another faction?
    2) Would the factions holding the land pay any racket proceeds -or money equivalent- to another faction if a racket were to spawn?

    Essentially all land "protection" is pretty much about rackets or any other form of monetary compensation as far as I see because you can't extort respect. Diplomatically obtained land doesn't suggest dependence. Which is why I suggested DA/DoA are independent :) But of course I am not a leader in any faction so it is possible that some of you all know some other form of extortion etc. in that case feel free to educate me if you would like :D

    If by "who is protecting lands/whose land it is" we mean that "the assumed protector can kick the faction in question out so the faction in question is not independent" then colour the whole map NS.

    Ata [2507441]

    Thank you, I am thinking of putting this into an expanded dictionary because we talk a lot about protection and dependence lately

    2) Would the factions holding the land pay any racket proceeds -or money equivalent- to another faction if a racket were to spawn?
    That's impossible to say. Nobody knows where a racket will re-emerge and HoF factions do not go asking around other factions "hey, we will be taking racket proceeds should any racket occur in your teritorry". To add to that, a wise leader once told me that at the moment a racket would occur on his territory, he would immediately receive half a dozen angry mails from HoF factions, demanding tribute.

    That said, I believe the 2) definition should look like this:

    2) Is a faction being threatened with raids by another faction should they not pay the racket proceeds?

    We all know this happens a lot, that's where faction bullying comes from in the first place but by definition this is hard or impossible to prove unless someone speaks out.
    You say "nobody goes around asking other factions . . ." but this is exactly what happens in some cases.  They find someone to move into available territory and make it clear what percent of newly spawned rackets will need to be sent over.  Sometimes it is as high as 100%.  Other times it is a bit more favorable at like 50/50.
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    Posted on 17:36:06 - 26/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    WaterPR00F [2574615]

    Torn Political Map V2.



    • Added 39th's (Originally independent) territories to JFK's.
    • Added IA's (Originally in SA + Proxies) territories to JFK's.
    • Added MMCP's (Originally independent) territories to JFK's.


    • Added 709's (Originally SA + IBB) territories to NS'.
    • Added DA/DoA's (Originally Independent) territories to NS'.
    • Added NUKE's (Originally independent) territories to NS'.


    • Split SA + Proxies to Brotherhood of War and RoD. BoW consist of DOS and BoW. RoD is basically SA and friends. Some members of BoW are also in the RoD alliance.
    • Added FTW's (Originally independent) territories to RoD's (Not officially in RoD but they're surrounded so might as well add).
    • Made IBB independent (was told that SA are allies, not racketeer partners).


    • Added The Commission (was not in V1 map)
    • Added an additional Wild West territory in the north west of Torn.
    • Reworked borders in the west.


    • Added Nomad's (was not in V1 map) territories to CR.
    • Added proxies north-west of NUKE's (was not in V1 map) territories to CR.

    HuntedGhost [2568914]

    DA/DoA do not pay racket proceeds to any faction :D

    Mysteria [276863]

    He didn’t say it was rackets map it’s who’s land it is and who protects that land I believe.
    ÐA isn't under protection of NS. We have agreements that should a major threat come, we would work together as neighbors to protect our lands. This is no different than the relationship we had with AK, or quite frankly the relationship you will find on any part of the map. 

    Another point would be that 709's faction description clearly states to contact IBB for any territory/racket questions, yet they're listed as being NS owned?

    I explained a lot of this to LeRedditor when he had questioned me about it, but apparently the investigative work didn't go as deep as looking at a faction's description.

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    Posted on 03:47:14 - 27/05/21 (4 months ago)
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    ÐA isn't under protection of NS. We have agreements that should a major threat come, we would work together as neighbors to protect our lands. This is no different than the relationship we had with AK, or quite frankly the relationship you will find on any part of the map.

    Another point would be that 709's faction description clearly states to contact IBB for any territory/racket questions, yet they're listed as being NS owned?

    I explained a lot of this to LeRedditor when he had questioned me about it, but apparently the investigative work didn't go as deep as looking at a faction's description.
    Edit - lol my two weeks are almost up. sorry to disappoint, I won't be free until the weekend. Plus, there's a war in the west atm, The Commission vs BoW & DOS.

    Been busy but I will update the map within two week (might hold off on that since JUX is fighting with Ex-AK in the east). NS leader, Penicillin already confirmed that 709 was IBB's territories. Got a few anon $1 sent to me about S-I-S Full Send was a CR proxy. It'll probably be my last update. I'll make two versions. One for Sphere of Influence, and one for territories + proxies. To make everyone happy.

    V2 was kinda confusing because for the east side, it was sphere of influence, and for the west side, it was territories/proxies. My mindset must of have changed when taking breaks while making the map.

    V1 was all me, just using my eyes and YATA's war updates. V2 was when I got PM from several of people saying my map was wrong and they provided input. I also messaged a few people (most ignored me so I stopped).
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