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    Are American Evangelists Ready to Follow the Zionists to Armageddon?



    For all the people who want the end of days to come sooner rather than later, just find a church where author Dr. Mike Evans speaks. He’ll be the first to tell congregations of 500 or more that bombing Iran is the only way to save Israel. The former 700 Club superstar warmonger claims America can only avert Armageddon by starting it. No, really. The congregations out there seem fully ready for the “big ride” to begin.
    Evans’ latest report in the Jerusalem Post, entitled “America needs to bomb Iran,” wreaks of Zionist hatred for Sunni and Shia Muslims. Evans and his benefactors make sure every good Christian is a card-carrying Arab hater, Russia hater, China hater, and bigot against everyone and everything that is not in the interest of Israel. Good Christians applaud the Zionists blasting babies and their moms into the sky or burying them beneath a hundred tons of rubble in Gaza.

    He appears frequently on Fox News (Rupert Murdoch), CNN World News (David Zaslav), NBC (Brian L. Roberts), ABC (Disney-Vanguard Group), CBS (Shari Redstone), the Wall Street Journal (Rupert Murdoch), USA Today (Japan’s Softbank), the Washington Times (Unification Church – Sun Myung Moon), and the Jerusalem Post (Eli Azur).

    Isn’t it interesting the number of Jewish owners that control these media conglomerates? And the two owners, not of a Zionist persuasion, certainly have no love lost on the American people or Greeks for that matter. The recently departed Pat Robertson of 700 Club harped on bombing Iran for decades and often broadcast from Israel during the height of the Christian Broadcasting Network’s success. The show is a bastion of so-called Judeo-Christian belief. The underpinnings of unrealistic Christian support for Israel, no matter what, is a much deeper topic. However, readers might want to look into the Hudson Institute,

    To continue, Mike Evans and 99 percent of the American media are not alone in calling for Armageddon to start tomorrow. Mark Wallace, CEO of United Against Nuclear Iran, recently said, “Right now, the only appropriate response to the Iranians is a military response.” Wallace, who wreaks of CIA spookiness, Wallace is also head of the Counter Extremism Project (CEP), Turkish Democracy Project. He was also a senior advisor to deceased Senator and warmongering lunatic John McCain. As for the Turkish Project, this is a regime change seedling beneath the unified dream of unseating Turkish President Recip Erdo?an (See Gatestone and John Bolton). While searching Gatestone, look into Sears & Roebuck heiress Nina Rosenwald and her Central Fund of Israel Efforts. This rabbit hole of Zionists, Neocons, and controlling elites is endless, so let’s move on.

    Armageddon, I mentioned it at the onset. So, what we have on the blue team are Americans propagandized by their preachers to love Zion and hate Arabs. And particularly the Iranian Muslims (See Shah of Iran exile for background). We also have the stuffy British Lords and Ladies, Luxembourg and Frankfurt bankers, the same old European royal elites, Japan, and scattered friendly states in the trenches. On the red team, there’s Iran and pretty much the entire Muslim world, probably Russia and most likely China, taking up for the Iranians and other players who’d as soon see the plains of Tel Megiddo irradiated. It’s crucial that we look at the Ukraine situation and how that has elevated Moscow-Tehran relations. The closer Russia and Iran are, the greater the chances of an unthinkable confrontation.

    Finally, it’s no stretch to assume that churches in America have long been infiltrated and coerced into an absolute pro-Zionist stance. The media and financial sectors are overwhelmingly anti-Muslim and pro-Zionist. Compounding the problem is the fact that these institutions of the West are anti-Russian, anti-Chinese, and against anything that stands in the way of total world domination and dominion over us all.
    It’s not a conspiracy theory any longer. We are finally seeing the authentic conspiracy from the world elites (Zionists and others) to rule everything once and for all. And where will this end?
    “And they gathered them together to the place, which in Hebrew is called Har-Magedon.” – Revelation 16:16

    Are American Evangelists Ready to Follow the Zionists to Armageddon?
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    Posted on 16:43:14 - 30/11/23 (2 months ago)
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    Although I'm definitely think Israel is a problem, and I feel that they should leave Palestinians alone, I find this incredibly antisemitic. Anyway, in many occasions in your "rant" you can replace Jew, for white person and it would still be accurate, go figure...
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    After living in East Texas, I can tell you the situation is actually reversed. Southern Baptist Evangelicals believe that Israel retaking all its historical land is required for the end of the world, which they want to accelerate.

    That's because that's when all good Christians are whisked off to heaven and those remaining must endure 7 years of tribulation at which point they will either convert to southern Baptist evangelism or go to hell for all eternity.

    If there is any Armageddon, pre millennial dispensationalist Christians are pushing towards it.

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    After living in East Texas, I can tell you the situation is actually reversed. Southern Baptist Evangelicals believe that Israel retaking all its historical land is required for the end of the world, which they want to accelerate.

    That's because that's when all good Christians are whisked off to heaven and those remaining must endure 7 years of tribulation at which point they will either convert to southern Baptist evangelism or go to hell for all eternity.

    If there is any Armageddon, pre millennial dispensationalist Christians are pushing towards it.
    And that is point of the OP.
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    Posted on 20:46:42 - 30/11/23 (2 months ago)
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    I shall lurk in this thread and decide if I will lend my heavyweight intellectual support or not

    NRx. Reject Modernity return to: Tradition, Monarchy, Spirit.

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    Posted on 21:05:37 - 30/11/23 (2 months ago)
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    religious folks have been part of most major wars, kept our potential as humans restrained, and continues to infect current day thoughts and politics. 

    We can safely ignore most of what they say and do, and put in effort only to show the hypocrisy of their texts. Any holy land needs to be able to be anywhere the religion resides. That's something the most evangelical needs to realize. the earth is sacred, not whatever your ancient text kind of indicates.
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    Although I'm definitely think Israel is a problem, and I feel that they should leave Palestinians alone, I find this incredibly antisemitic. Anyway, in many occasions in your "rant" you can replace Jew, for white person and it would still be accurate, go figure...
    What's anti-shemitic about what he said?

    The Zionists control the Media(Hollywood included), banking and major corporations. They damn near have a monopoly over it.

    What Mickey said is factual. This is what evangelicals get off on.

    Crazy part is they're not who they said they are (imposters) and leading people who believe them straight to their messiah the lawless one who will sit in the third temple and defile it once its complete. So many people will be deceived, led astray, hoodwinked and bamboozled.
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    Posted on 15:49:26 - 06/12/23 (2 months ago)
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    3 years before the war start will be the most harsh years. There will be crisis of food, water. Are we ready?

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    Capgros [2088627]

    Although I'm definitely think Israel is a problem, and I feel that they should leave Palestinians alone, I find this incredibly antisemitic. Anyway, in many occasions in your "rant" you can replace Jew, for white person and it would still be accurate, go figure...
    You know what's anti-semitic? The quran.
    "You will fight against the Jews and you will gain victory over them. The stones will saying: 'Oh slave of Allah! there is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him"
    Israel tried several times to make peace, but muslims do not concede on the "total jewish genocide" point.
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    Although I'm definitely think Israel is a problem, and I feel that they should leave Palestinians alone, I find this incredibly antisemitic. Anyway, in many occasions in your "rant" you can replace Jew, for white person and it would still be accurate, go figure...

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    You know what's anti-semitic? The quran.
    "You will fight against the Jews and you will gain victory over them. The stones will saying: 'Oh slave of Allah! there is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him"
    Israel tried several times to make peace, but muslims do not concede on the "total jewish genocide" point.
    Pfff come on men, in that case the bible is also racist as f**k. BTW, this refers to a war, and like this you are clearly taking it out of context.
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    Pfff come on men, in that case the bible is also racist as f**k. BTW, this refers to a war, and like this you are clearly taking it out of context.
    I didn't say anything about the bible. Also, please, elucidate me on the context of "there is a jew hiding behind me; so kill him".
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    Capgros [2088627]

    Pfff come on men, in that case the bible is also racist as f**k. BTW, this refers to a war, and like this you are clearly taking it out of context.

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    I didn't say anything about the bible. Also, please, elucidate me on the context of "there is a jew hiding behind me; so kill him".
    It's about a war a long time ago.... If you take one line of a book, and don't read the rest, you can come to different conclusions, to me it seems you just want to show how bloodthirsty the Muslims are, by taking one ancient sentence from an old book.
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    Thank you for posting this article which comes from a point of view not otherwise easy to come by for me.

    Thinking about the main point of what is written here -- which to me is that some Christian fundamentalists are being duped by the CIA into supporting Zionist interests -- I think that the key thing is that the CIA is interested in duping not only them but also you and me into colluding with whatever political agendas it is acting in the service of. And if many people are being duped it is not because those people are idiots, it is because those doing the duping are masters of their game and have the means to do the same to each of us (at least some of the time).
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    After living in East Texas, I can tell you the situation is actually reversed. Southern Baptist Evangelicals believe that Israel retaking all its historical land is required for the end of the world, which they want to accelerate.

    That's because that's when all good Christians are whisked off to heaven and those remaining must endure 7 years of tribulation at which point they will either convert to southern Baptist evangelism or go to hell for all eternity.

    If there is any Armageddon, pre millennial dispensationalist Christians are pushing towards it.
    That definitely doesn't sound like a cult

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    Pfff come on men, in that case the bible is also racist as f**k. BTW, this refers to a war, and like this you are clearly taking it out of context.

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    I didn't say anything about the bible. Also, please, elucidate me on the context of "there is a jew hiding behind me; so kill him".
    You do realize half the old testament is just a list of the various people the Israelites slaughtered right?

    you shall blot out the memory of Amalek from under the heaven. Do not forget it!” - Deuteronomy 25-18
    Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox, and sheep, camel and ass,” - Samuel 1 15:3
    However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy[a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you. - Deuteronomy 20 16-17
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    You do realize half the old testament is just a list of the various people the Israelites slaughtered right?

    you shall blot out the memory of Amalek from under the heaven. Do not forget it!” - Deuteronomy 25-18
    Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox, and sheep, camel and ass,” - Samuel 1 15:3
    However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy[a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you. - Deuteronomy 20 16-17
    So your argument is "they are just as bad as christians"? Because I'm not the one bringing them up.
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    You do realize half the old testament is just a list of the various people the Israelites slaughtered right?

    you shall blot out the memory of Amalek from under the heaven. Do not forget it!” - Deuteronomy 25-18
    Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox, and sheep, camel and ass,” - Samuel 1 15:3
    However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy[a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you. - Deuteronomy 20 16-17

    Stephen_Lynx [2869110]

    So your argument is "they are just as bad as christians"? Because I'm not the one bringing them up.
    A) How are Christians involved? The bible quotes I gave all have to do with ancient Israel.

    B) You quoted a line supposedly from the Quran about killing Jews. You claimed the line showed the religion is inherently anti-semetic.

    C) By the way, this line is not from the Quoran. It is from the Hadith and said by one of Muhammad's contemporaries.

    D) Capgros pointed out pulling some line about killing Jews outside of any context is not good evidence for inherent violence. You claimed this was a bad argument

    E) I pulled some lines up about Israelites killing other people. Do you believe this is evidence of inherent brutality in a religion as well? If not, why is it only Muslims that are condemned through this kind of claim?

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    windyrockbell [2805009]

    You do realize half the old testament is just a list of the various people the Israelites slaughtered right?

    you shall blot out the memory of Amalek from under the heaven. Do not forget it!” - Deuteronomy 25-18
    Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox, and sheep, camel and ass,” - Samuel 1 15:3
    However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy[a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you. - Deuteronomy 20 16-17

    Stephen_Lynx [2869110]

    So your argument is "they are just as bad as christians"? Because I'm not the one bringing them up.

    windyrockbell [2805009]

    A) How are Christians involved? The bible quotes I gave all have to do with ancient Israel.

    B) You quoted a line supposedly from the Quran about killing Jews. You claimed the line showed the religion is inherently anti-semetic.

    C) By the way, this line is not from the Quoran. It is from the Hadith and said by one of Muhammad's contemporaries.

    D) Capgros pointed out pulling some line about killing Jews outside of any context is not good evidence for inherent violence. You claimed this was a bad argument

    E) I pulled some lines up about Israelites killing other people. Do you believe this is evidence of inherent brutality in a religion as well? If not, why is it only Muslims that are condemned through this kind of claim?
    Not going to get into holy book quoting here, but about your last point there.

    While all of these books have their fair share of violence, modern Christian and Jewish terrorists' causes for their violence is primarily secular. Christian terrorists blow up abortion clinics to stop abortions, Jewish terrorists are motivated by blood feuds and land claims, but Islamic terrorism has a major motivation in killing as many nonbelievers as possible.

    Not to minimize how horrible any of these are, but you can boil down Christian terrorism to specific secular causes; anti-abortion, anti-lgbt, etc., Jewish terrorism to a more of a secular nationalism, whereas with Islamic terrorism, it's much harder to pin down any secular reasoning, and it's hard to identify their causes as anything more than "convert or kill" and there's nothing to point to say there is anything other than their religion motivating them.
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    windyrockbell [2805009]

    You do realize half the old testament is just a list of the various people the Israelites slaughtered right?

    you shall blot out the memory of Amalek from under the heaven. Do not forget it!” - Deuteronomy 25-18
    Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox, and sheep, camel and ass,” - Samuel 1 15:3
    However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy[a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you. - Deuteronomy 20 16-17

    Stephen_Lynx [2869110]

    So your argument is "they are just as bad as christians"? Because I'm not the one bringing them up.

    windyrockbell [2805009]

    A) How are Christians involved? The bible quotes I gave all have to do with ancient Israel.

    B) You quoted a line supposedly from the Quran about killing Jews. You claimed the line showed the religion is inherently anti-semetic.

    C) By the way, this line is not from the Quoran. It is from the Hadith and said by one of Muhammad's contemporaries.

    D) Capgros pointed out pulling some line about killing Jews outside of any context is not good evidence for inherent violence. You claimed this was a bad argument

    E) I pulled some lines up about Israelites killing other people. Do you believe this is evidence of inherent brutality in a religion as well? If not, why is it only Muslims that are condemned through this kind of claim?

    Patient [2131539]

    Not going to get into holy book quoting here, but about your last point there.

    While all of these books have their fair share of violence, modern Christian and Jewish terrorists' causes for their violence is primarily secular. Christian terrorists blow up abortion clinics to stop abortions, Jewish terrorists are motivated by blood feuds and land claims, but Islamic terrorism has a major motivation in killing as many nonbelievers as possible.

    Not to minimize how horrible any of these are, but you can boil down Christian terrorism to specific secular causes; anti-abortion, anti-lgbt, etc., Jewish terrorism to a more of a secular nationalism, whereas with Islamic terrorism, it's much harder to pin down any secular reasoning, and it's hard to identify their causes as anything more than "convert or kill" and there's nothing to point to say there is anything other than their religion motivating them.
    Ok so they all are guilty of doing the same thing?
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    windyrockbell [2805009]

    You do realize half the old testament is just a list of the various people the Israelites slaughtered right?

    you shall blot out the memory of Amalek from under the heaven. Do not forget it!” - Deuteronomy 25-18
    Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox, and sheep, camel and ass,” - Samuel 1 15:3
    However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy[a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you. - Deuteronomy 20 16-17

    Stephen_Lynx [2869110]

    So your argument is "they are just as bad as christians"? Because I'm not the one bringing them up.

    windyrockbell [2805009]

    A) How are Christians involved? The bible quotes I gave all have to do with ancient Israel.

    B) You quoted a line supposedly from the Quran about killing Jews. You claimed the line showed the religion is inherently anti-semetic.

    C) By the way, this line is not from the Quoran. It is from the Hadith and said by one of Muhammad's contemporaries.

    D) Capgros pointed out pulling some line about killing Jews outside of any context is not good evidence for inherent violence. You claimed this was a bad argument

    E) I pulled some lines up about Israelites killing other people. Do you believe this is evidence of inherent brutality in a religion as well? If not, why is it only Muslims that are condemned through this kind of claim?

    Patient [2131539]

    Not going to get into holy book quoting here, but about your last point there.

    While all of these books have their fair share of violence, modern Christian and Jewish terrorists' causes for their violence is primarily secular. Christian terrorists blow up abortion clinics to stop abortions, Jewish terrorists are motivated by blood feuds and land claims, but Islamic terrorism has a major motivation in killing as many nonbelievers as possible.

    Not to minimize how horrible any of these are, but you can boil down Christian terrorism to specific secular causes; anti-abortion, anti-lgbt, etc., Jewish terrorism to a more of a secular nationalism, whereas with Islamic terrorism, it's much harder to pin down any secular reasoning, and it's hard to identify their causes as anything more than "convert or kill" and there's nothing to point to say there is anything other than their religion motivating them.
    Ah yes, the famously secular positions of *checks notes* anti-abortion and anti-LGBT

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