I don't really have any horse in this race, and it appears that the controversy has mostly been settled. However, I feel the need to give my opinion on this.
While I don't at all support Sirius's vague threats, I generally agree with him on this. It is of course Tork's thread, and he can do with it as he pleases. Furthermore, torn staff agrees with him, making it all very moot. That being said, I do not think that age restricting threads is a good course of action. I have three reasons for this.
The first is simply that our forum is a part of torn, and torn is a PG13 game. If you meet that PG13 requirement, then the game should be open to you.
The second is that I categorically am opposed to age discrimination broadly, especially in a setting such as this, where the game is already PG13 restricted. Why does the thread need to be 18+? Are there going to be 18+ scenes or content? If so, it will be in violation of the game rules. Is it because the author prefers more mature participants? I do not think age is an excellent indicator of maturity, as I have met 45 year olds who are incapable of critical thought, and 12 year olds who are much smarter than I will ever be. If it is due to the setting of plane crash survival being simply too much for children, then I would suggest referencing the extremely popular YA novel, Hatchet.
Third and finally, this is a small forum on a small game. We have worked for years to foster an attitude of acceptance both because it is the right thing to do, and because it is necessary for the forum to have enough participants to meaningfully survive. I have seen the forum effectively dead multiple times, so maybe I have a longer perspective on it than others. Keeping people out of threads because of physical "whats" (IE age/ethnicity/place of residence) about them does nothing to help the forum.
Now, that all being said, if the real reason for the decision was because Sirius is sometimes argumentative and insulting, then that is a different matter. If that is the case, then I feel the adult move is to simply say that, rather than using age as an excuse. That would be a much more acceptable reason to me for excluding him from a thread.
I apologize for sticking my nose into this. I suspect that I will regret it.
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Posted on 20:53:08 - 10/02/23 (3 months ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
You won’t regret it because you do speak truth
{and Tork, your probably gonna hate me for saying this}
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Posted on 21:07:13 - 10/02/23 (3 months ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkThere's no reason I would hate you for having your opinnion ashlyn. And I agreed with Strange as well. As far as the situation itself, its dead unless Sirius continues to bring it up.
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- TorkTheBear [2879202]
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Posted on 21:11:04 - 10/02/23 (3 months ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkAs for the conversation that caused my decision.
TorkTheBear: This one isnt vulgar or sexual. But if i made one with it. I would keep you from rping in it
TorkTheBear: It isnt appropriate to have a 13 year old rp vulgarly with anyone above 18
TorkTheBear: Regardless if you've been doing it
TorkTheBear: That is my standard
SiriusHoward: This is supposed to be entirely PG anyway, but I'm not complaining
TorkTheBear: Relative. Death, possible murder cannibalism and violence isnt pg
TorkTheBear: Thatd be 18+
SiriusHoward: I'm pretty much desensitized to every one of those
SiriusHoward: Neither traumatized nor inclined to commit those acts
TorkTheBear: Doesnt make it right
TorkTheBear: Again. As rp host thats how i run my rps
TorkTheBear: But seeing how this isnt going to be too extreme. Its meh for now
SiriusHoward: Literally nobody cares if I'm too young for those except you
TorkTheBear: Sounds like indifferent people. Im not those kinds of people
SiriusHoward: They're not indifferent, I'm desensitized
TorkTheBear: I hold myself and my rps accountable
SiriusHoward: Besides, you're not getting into legal trouble, so leave me be man
SiriusHoward: Please.
TorkTheBear: No
TorkTheBear: But if youre going to argue. Im going to have to ask you to delete your rp and leave sirius -
Posted on 22:25:44 - 10/02/23 (3 months ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
I tried telling him he's not getting in trouble but he wouldn't listen, and Strange, I'm with you too
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- TorkTheBear [2879202]
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Posted on 00:01:40 - 11/02/23 (3 months ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkThe new rp is open. For the free slots message me with your idea, for all else. Go ham
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Posted on 02:35:57 - 11/02/23 (3 months ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
Hey guys, back was busy yesterday & earlier today. Will respond as soon as I'm done with missions.
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Posted on 02:40:17 - 11/02/23 (3 months ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
Am I still your scapegoat Sirius? XD I thought we were past that dude. I don't bash, I tell the truth, there's a difference. And only to teenagers that bully others, I'm an adult, it's my job to make sure we all get along & the best way to have fun is to respect the rules.
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Posted on 02:42:18 - 11/02/23 (3 months ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
Darn it, I almost felt flattered T_T I thought u missed me for a sec
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Posted on 02:49:59 - 11/02/23 (3 months ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
We're cool, it's just that new guy
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Posted on 02:51:56 - 11/02/23 (3 months ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
He claims you guys don't care about me, but really I'm just desensitized to violence, sex, and profanity
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Posted on 03:00:34 - 11/02/23 (3 months ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
Here's a tip, it's good to stand up for yourself but on a game like this keep in mind these rules I shall honor upon you because if not, the other person can use it to come back & bite ya in the gluteus maximus: Thumb of Rule number:
1. Look up Torn City rules & policies before engaging in a fight.
2. Try to calm them down first to handle it diplomatically. If they don't calm down, they the one that's trippin'
3. Try to come up with a solution first. So that u both can engage peacefully. This is the smart thing to do because if they choose to fight instead, it makes them look egotistical & once again they are the one that's tripping.
4. Never threaten-Not for them but for yourself because threatening will only get u in a pickle.
5. Don't resort to name calling with profanity-you can name call just be more clever about it, if u use profanity it'll just make u look like a douche, especially if the person playing is a 5yr old.
6. Don't play the blame game-Figure out how to get proof instead, playing blame game just wastes time & it'll be their word against yours.
7. Never underestimate or assume that u know who they are-that person you're beefing with could be anyone & if they don't have pictures u really don't know who they are at the end of the day. Sometimes u can tell whether they're younger or older by the way they respond but sometimes u can't unless ur a master at it like me ;D jk jk
8. Don't let it get to u or make u that upset. Remember that it's just a game, it's not the end of the world. Take a break from the game if needed & hit a punching bag in rl, then come back once u calm down.
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Posted on 03:01:11 - 11/02/23 (3 months ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
You grew on me so I care about cha, just had to get used to u at first lol
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Posted on 03:02:05 - 11/02/23 (3 months ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
That's the first nice thing u said to me in forever, get ova here lil bro! *Gives Sirius a big bear hug!* Platonically!
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Posted on 03:02:49 - 11/02/23 (3 months ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
Lolz
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Posted on 03:04:07 - 11/02/23 (3 months ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
I see you wed one of our other newcomers. Really, I wouldn't fit in her GOT thread simply because it's gotten too far ahead for me and I haven't caught up with the lore
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Posted on 07:28:03 - 11/02/23 (3 months ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
Yeah Sansa kew :) it's all good, she posted that everyone was still alive so it doesn't really matter where u were on the show, u could still join. She told me she's been meaning to reply, just been busy, same on and off
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Posted on 09:25:27 - 12/02/23 (3 months ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
I leave for 2, 3 days and I have lost track on what's going on.
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Posted on 10:42:09 - 12/02/23 (3 months ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
Oh, well. Welcome to the beginning of the end of the world?
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Posted on 17:57:24 - 12/02/23 (3 months ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
Same bro, just read the last page a bit, welcome to the rp forums TorkTheBear
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