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    Posted on 14:07:39 - 20/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    If you are concerned about putting possibly dangerous, artificial substances in your body, I suggest you stop using all forms of birth control.

    The Pill, condoms, IUDs, spermicides all contain potentially harmful, artificial substances. In fact, they are all more dangerous than the vaccine.

    Of course, deciding to refuse to use birth control could lead to other outcomes you might not like which might affect other people. But hey! not everyone gets pregnant or contracts STDs when they have unprotected sex, right? Just take your chances, what's the worst that could happen?

    Or you could just isolate yourself, never have sex again, and you'd be just fine.

    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    This tactic of changing the subject, making ridiculous comparisons and leading everything astray is getting old fast... Nobody here could explain what is really going on with this unhinged government overreach... what's the real reason behind mandating some shady vaxx for a disease with more than 99% survival rate... After all - how is a forced jab any different that forced organ harvesting? Where all that madness leads and how will it end?

    But hey, instead of tackling these issues it's much easier to smear the other side and make the sceptics look like a bunch of stupid, illiterate, paranoid conspiracy theorists. Politicians and media are doing this all the time...

    Sadly, it looks like we need a new batch of conspiracy theories because the current ones are coming true... From "just two weeks to flatten the curve" to "show me your papers"... Ewww.

    CRLF [2095076]

    (The Case Fatality Rate (CFR) is the ratio between confirmed deaths and confirmed cases.)

    The average annual infant mortality rate attributed to pertussis is 3.8 per 1,000,000 live births. (Mandatory childhood vaccine)

    Death from measles was reported in approximately 0.2% of the cases in the United States from 1985 through 1992. (Mandatory childhood vaccine).

    The overall case-fatality rate of mumps is 1.6–3.8 people per 10,000 (Mandatory childhood vaccine)

    Case fatality rate for COVID in the US is 1.6% (1.6 per 100) and total deaths per 100k population is 205.18.
    (Vaccine optional)

    Did you get your childhood vaccines? Did you know they are mandatory in most states? It is also a "forced jab". And yes... you do have to "show your papers" for childhood vaccines in order to attend school.

    Why would this vaccine be any different from other vaccines you are required to get?

    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    Ahh, another switcheroo... twisting everything to fit into the current narrative... This rationale is why they changed the very definition of vaccines, so everyone would believe this experimental gene therapy is in the same ballpark like these old and proven vaccines.



    Sorry, still not buying this BS.

    Diking [1951369]

    This might surprise you but science tends to change over time. I know it’s hard to wrap your head around but that’s the idea.

    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    Yet the scientific community and doctors are very polarized about this mess... there is no clear scientific consensus so far... all we have are political lies, propaganda, fear porn, cooking up the numbers with unreliable "tests", psychological warfare, coercion, censorship and so on.

    On top of it all nobody is held accountable for these experimental jabs... the big pharma is extempt from liability... and I am supposed to trust these criminals with my health? No thanks.
    Your term "scientist" is very broad. Someone could be researching UFOs or Big Foot and call themselves a "scientist". There's even a religion of "Christian Scientists" which is not about science.

    In specific terms, I have not heard of a single virologist speak against any of the COVID vaccines. A virologist is a scientist that studies viruses and develop vaccines.

    Surely if the COVID vaccine was bogus as you claim, every virologist in the world would be complaining about it.
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    Posted on 14:29:19 - 20/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    This tactic of changing the subject, making ridiculous comparisons and leading everything astray is getting old fast... Nobody here could explain what is really going on with this unhinged government overreach... what's the real reason behind mandating some shady vaxx for a disease with more than 99% survival rate... After all - how is a forced jab any different that forced organ harvesting? Where all that madness leads and how will it end?

    But hey, instead of tackling these issues it's much easier to smear the other side and make the sceptics look like a bunch of stupid, illiterate, paranoid conspiracy theorists. Politicians and media are doing this all the time...

    Sadly, it looks like we need a new batch of conspiracy theories because the current ones are coming true... From "just two weeks to flatten the curve" to "show me your papers"... Ewww.

    CRLF [2095076]

    (The Case Fatality Rate (CFR) is the ratio between confirmed deaths and confirmed cases.)

    The average annual infant mortality rate attributed to pertussis is 3.8 per 1,000,000 live births. (Mandatory childhood vaccine)

    Death from measles was reported in approximately 0.2% of the cases in the United States from 1985 through 1992. (Mandatory childhood vaccine).

    The overall case-fatality rate of mumps is 1.6–3.8 people per 10,000 (Mandatory childhood vaccine)

    Case fatality rate for COVID in the US is 1.6% (1.6 per 100) and total deaths per 100k population is 205.18.
    (Vaccine optional)

    Did you get your childhood vaccines? Did you know they are mandatory in most states? It is also a "forced jab". And yes... you do have to "show your papers" for childhood vaccines in order to attend school.

    Why would this vaccine be any different from other vaccines you are required to get?

    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    Ahh, another switcheroo... twisting everything to fit into the current narrative... This rationale is why they changed the very definition of vaccines, so everyone would believe this experimental gene therapy is in the same ballpark like these old and proven vaccines.



    Sorry, still not buying this BS.

    Diking [1951369]

    This might surprise you but science tends to change over time. I know it’s hard to wrap your head around but that’s the idea.

    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    Yet the scientific community and doctors are very polarized about this mess... there is no clear scientific consensus so far... all we have are political lies, propaganda, fear porn, cooking up the numbers with unreliable "tests", psychological warfare, coercion, censorship and so on.

    On top of it all nobody is held accountable for these experimental jabs... the big pharma is extempt from liability... and I am supposed to trust these criminals with my health? No thanks.

    CRLF [2095076]

    Your term "scientist" is very broad. Someone could be researching UFOs or Big Foot and call themselves a "scientist". There's even a religion of "Christian Scientists" which is not about science.

    In specific terms, I have not heard of a single virologist speak against any of the COVID vaccines. A virologist is a scientist that studies viruses and develop vaccines.

    Surely if the COVID vaccine was bogus as you claim, every virologist in the world would be complaining about it.
    Wait wait wait... Are you trying to tell me the guy I buy my weed from isn't a scientist?

    Then how do you explain his lab coat, and theories on the global elite?

    Check. Mate.
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    Posted on 14:35:49 - 20/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    It's very convenient how people like you always manage to thwart any discussion about the issues like informed consent or medical freedom into a fearmongering show about deaths, ventilators etc. at the right moment. I'm not buying it...

    No one of you has come up with even a half-decent rationale in favor of two-tier citizenship and this hysterical jab-coercion "show-me-your-papers" type of BS... and I still see absolutely zero reason to trust anyone advocating for these totalitarian measures...

    CRLF [2095076]

    If you are concerned about putting possibly dangerous, artificial substances in your body, I suggest you stop using all forms of birth control.

    The Pill, condoms, IUDs, spermicides all contain potentially harmful, artificial substances. In fact, they are all more dangerous than the vaccine.

    Of course, deciding to refuse to use birth control could lead to other outcomes you might not like which might affect other people. But hey! not everyone gets pregnant or contracts STDs when they have unprotected sex, right? Just take your chances, what's the worst that could happen?

    Or you could just isolate yourself, never have sex again, and you'd be just fine.

    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    This tactic of changing the subject, making ridiculous comparisons and leading everything astray is getting old fast... Nobody here could explain what is really going on with this unhinged government overreach... what's the real reason behind mandating some shady vaxx for a disease with more than 99% survival rate... After all - how is a forced jab any different that forced organ harvesting? Where all that madness leads and how will it end?

    But hey, instead of tackling these issues it's much easier to smear the other side and make the sceptics look like a bunch of stupid, illiterate, paranoid conspiracy theorists. Politicians and media are doing this all the time...

    Sadly, it looks like we need a new batch of conspiracy theories because the current ones are coming true... From "just two weeks to flatten the curve" to "show me your papers"... Ewww.

    CRLF [2095076]

    (The Case Fatality Rate (CFR) is the ratio between confirmed deaths and confirmed cases.)

    The average annual infant mortality rate attributed to pertussis is 3.8 per 1,000,000 live births. (Mandatory childhood vaccine)

    Death from measles was reported in approximately 0.2% of the cases in the United States from 1985 through 1992. (Mandatory childhood vaccine).

    The overall case-fatality rate of mumps is 1.6–3.8 people per 10,000 (Mandatory childhood vaccine)

    Case fatality rate for COVID in the US is 1.6% (1.6 per 100) and total deaths per 100k population is 205.18.
    (Vaccine optional)

    Did you get your childhood vaccines? Did you know they are mandatory in most states? It is also a "forced jab". And yes... you do have to "show your papers" for childhood vaccines in order to attend school.

    Why would this vaccine be any different from other vaccines you are required to get?

    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    Ahh, another switcheroo... twisting everything to fit into the current narrative... This rationale is why they changed the very definition of vaccines, so everyone would believe this experimental gene therapy is in the same ballpark like these old and proven vaccines.



    Sorry, still not buying this BS.

    CRLF [2095076]

    It's not gene therapy. It's a vaccination.

    It sounds like you gathered up a bunch of misinformation from some anti-vax sites and are just slamming it here so you can try to win some sort of argument.

    It seems as though you're more interested in "winning" than in any way coming to an accurate conclusion. I'm sorry your life sucks so much and you feel so insignificant in RL that you have to "win" in an online forum discussion without any attempt to have a practical discussion.
    Oh, it is a vaccination after all? Okay. Then why we have so dramatic surge of covid cases in highly vaxxed Israel? These jabs were supposed to prevent this, remember?

    And what about the big pharma being extempt from any liability? How am I supposed to get over that? Of course, I no longer expect any real answers from you.

    As for your incoherent opinion about my life spiced with shaming and petty insults, that automatically disqualifies you from any further conversation. Bye bye :)
    Last edited by Samoiedskaya on 14:51:42 - 20/09/21

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    Posted on 14:46:42 - 20/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    This tactic of changing the subject, making ridiculous comparisons and leading everything astray is getting old fast... Nobody here could explain what is really going on with this unhinged government overreach... what's the real reason behind mandating some shady vaxx for a disease with more than 99% survival rate... After all - how is a forced jab any different that forced organ harvesting? Where all that madness leads and how will it end?

    But hey, instead of tackling these issues it's much easier to smear the other side and make the sceptics look like a bunch of stupid, illiterate, paranoid conspiracy theorists. Politicians and media are doing this all the time...

    Sadly, it looks like we need a new batch of conspiracy theories because the current ones are coming true... From "just two weeks to flatten the curve" to "show me your papers"... Ewww.

    CRLF [2095076]

    (The Case Fatality Rate (CFR) is the ratio between confirmed deaths and confirmed cases.)

    The average annual infant mortality rate attributed to pertussis is 3.8 per 1,000,000 live births. (Mandatory childhood vaccine)

    Death from measles was reported in approximately 0.2% of the cases in the United States from 1985 through 1992. (Mandatory childhood vaccine).

    The overall case-fatality rate of mumps is 1.6–3.8 people per 10,000 (Mandatory childhood vaccine)

    Case fatality rate for COVID in the US is 1.6% (1.6 per 100) and total deaths per 100k population is 205.18.
    (Vaccine optional)

    Did you get your childhood vaccines? Did you know they are mandatory in most states? It is also a "forced jab". And yes... you do have to "show your papers" for childhood vaccines in order to attend school.

    Why would this vaccine be any different from other vaccines you are required to get?

    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    Ahh, another switcheroo... twisting everything to fit into the current narrative... This rationale is why they changed the very definition of vaccines, so everyone would believe this experimental gene therapy is in the same ballpark like these old and proven vaccines.



    Sorry, still not buying this BS.

    Diking [1951369]

    This might surprise you but science tends to change over time. I know it’s hard to wrap your head around but that’s the idea.

    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    Yet the scientific community and doctors are very polarized about this mess... there is no clear scientific consensus so far... all we have are political lies, propaganda, fear porn, cooking up the numbers with unreliable "tests", psychological warfare, coercion, censorship and so on.

    On top of it all nobody is held accountable for these experimental jabs... the big pharma is extempt from liability... and I am supposed to trust these criminals with my health? No thanks.

    Diking [1951369]

    I’m sorry but I don’t think any respectable member of the scientific community is against the covid vaccine. I don’t know where this is coming from
    - Professor Didier Raoult: “There are 70% side effects with the Pfizer vaccine, we had never seen that with a vaccine! “

    - Nobel laureate Luc Montagnier warns covid vaccine may lead to ‘Neurodegenerative Illness’

    - Dr. Michael Yeadon, the former vice president, and scientific director for Pfizer has come forward with evidence that widespread SCIENCE FRAUD was used in the 2020 race for a coronavirus vaccine.

    In pursuit of speedy regulatory approval, Pfizer abandoned all scientific integrity. The study design for new mRNA injections is based on fraudulent diagnostic protocols that manipulate data endpoints and conceal the short and long-term adverse events inflicted by their vaccines.

    Dr. Yeadon is joined by a German lung specialist, Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg. The two brave doctors have filed an urgent application with the European Medicine Agency, calling out the BioNtech/Pfizer vaccine study because it’s based on FRAUD.

    With bleeding inside the head there is a metallic taste at the back of the throat.

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    Posted on 15:13:05 - 20/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    Oh Jesus, the folks here comparing some experimental and dangerous gene therapy to seatbelts and whatnot is really making my head spin... This whole narrative that health only comes from a needle is absurd... it really reflects the magnitude of brainwashing and mass hypnosis...

    So far most of these "conspiracy theories" from the last year are coming true... Somehow we got from "just two weeks to flatten the curve" to "show me your papers" totalitarian-type of society... and people are still ignoring the elephant in the room which basically leads to Communism 2.0 creeping on us:

    Get vaccinated.
    Eat bugs.
    Eat soy.
    Live in a pod.
    Don't exercise.
    Don't go out.
    Don't get married.
    Don't have kids.
    Put on a mask.
    Put on another one.
    Put on another one.
    Put on another one.
    Don't hug your family.
    Don't make money.
    Dont own anything.
    Don't do that.
    Don't say that.
    Don't think that.
    Don't feel that.

    N O P E !

    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    Holy shit dude this isn't experimental gene therapy. f**k off with that nonsense.

    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    No? Okay... I am a perfectly healthy and strong young-ish person... why on Earth would I need to inject this mystery juice in my body?
    a lot of reasons (presume you are in your 40's)
    a) this is not going away... sooner or later you will have to deal with it if you live in a metropolitan area (rural people might get lucky), pretty much 100% of the people will contact with covid over the next years, so lets go to facts: (stating off memory and from EU data) you can roll the dice on a 0.5% chance of death
    b) roll the dice on a 1 in 40 (or so) hospitalization case
    c) roll the dice on on a 20%, or more chance of any of the "long covid" situations, and some are messed up ...
    d) roll the dice on not infecting and potencially seriously harming a loved one, although i suspect you spend alot of time in mom's basement "researching" youtube for evidence that the world is flat, so you, personally, might actually be safe on that one.
    e) you can actually combat big pharma !!! and be anti system https://www.healthcarefinancenews.com/news/average-cost-hospital-care-covid-19-ranges-51000-78000-based-age ..... ICU costs in the USA alone are more than double the whole vaccination program will be for the whole world ... so do your ANTI SYSTEM /ANTI BIG PHARMA, fight and make sure they dont make money off the ICU "customers", you will make alex jones proud!!!
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    Posted on 15:51:46 - 20/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    (The Case Fatality Rate (CFR) is the ratio between confirmed deaths and confirmed cases.)

    The average annual infant mortality rate attributed to pertussis is 3.8 per 1,000,000 live births. (Mandatory childhood vaccine)

    Death from measles was reported in approximately 0.2% of the cases in the United States from 1985 through 1992. (Mandatory childhood vaccine).

    The overall case-fatality rate of mumps is 1.6–3.8 people per 10,000 (Mandatory childhood vaccine)

    Case fatality rate for COVID in the US is 1.6% (1.6 per 100) and total deaths per 100k population is 205.18.
    (Vaccine optional)

    Did you get your childhood vaccines? Did you know they are mandatory in most states? It is also a "forced jab". And yes... you do have to "show your papers" for childhood vaccines in order to attend school.

    Why would this vaccine be any different from other vaccines you are required to get?

    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    Ahh, another switcheroo... twisting everything to fit into the current narrative... This rationale is why they changed the very definition of vaccines, so everyone would believe this experimental gene therapy is in the same ballpark like these old and proven vaccines.



    Sorry, still not buying this BS.

    Diking [1951369]

    This might surprise you but science tends to change over time. I know it’s hard to wrap your head around but that’s the idea.

    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    Yet the scientific community and doctors are very polarized about this mess... there is no clear scientific consensus so far... all we have are political lies, propaganda, fear porn, cooking up the numbers with unreliable "tests", psychological warfare, coercion, censorship and so on.

    On top of it all nobody is held accountable for these experimental jabs... the big pharma is extempt from liability... and I am supposed to trust these criminals with my health? No thanks.

    Diking [1951369]

    I’m sorry but I don’t think any respectable member of the scientific community is against the covid vaccine. I don’t know where this is coming from

    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    - Professor Didier Raoult: “There are 70% side effects with the Pfizer vaccine, we had never seen that with a vaccine! “

    - Nobel laureate Luc Montagnier warns covid vaccine may lead to ‘Neurodegenerative Illness’

    - Dr. Michael Yeadon, the former vice president, and scientific director for Pfizer has come forward with evidence that widespread SCIENCE FRAUD was used in the 2020 race for a coronavirus vaccine.

    In pursuit of speedy regulatory approval, Pfizer abandoned all scientific integrity. The study design for new mRNA injections is based on fraudulent diagnostic protocols that manipulate data endpoints and conceal the short and long-term adverse events inflicted by their vaccines.

    Dr. Yeadon is joined by a German lung specialist, Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg. The two brave doctors have filed an urgent application with the European Medicine Agency, calling out the BioNtech/Pfizer vaccine study because it’s based on FRAUD.
    here we go more bull shit...
    “There are 70% side effects with the Pfizer vaccine, we had never seen that with a vaccine! “, garbage ... some vaccines have almost 100% of side effect rate, the tuberculosis aka BCG for ex, pretty much leaves a soar arm and a life long blister mark on everyone that took it, plus fever plus sore arm plus ... a bunch of other stuff.

    Mr luc also started saying autism can be cured with anti-biotics and that homeopathy works ... that quote is not found, and no evidence exists of that claim ... please present them

    The study design for new mRNA injections is based on fraudulent diagnostic protocol: its easy to debunk ... the studies are public please point where in the study does this occur?, also there are numerous country drug agencies to whom adverse events are reported, after the hundreds of millions now administered this would have been reported if true (yes i know youtube says every one in the pharma world is corrupt and you are our only hope... sorry to pop your bubble captain america).
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    CRLF [2095076]

    If you are concerned about putting possibly dangerous, artificial substances in your body, I suggest you stop using all forms of birth control.

    The Pill, condoms, IUDs, spermicides all contain potentially harmful, artificial substances. In fact, they are all more dangerous than the vaccine.

    Of course, deciding to refuse to use birth control could lead to other outcomes you might not like which might affect other people. But hey! not everyone gets pregnant or contracts STDs when they have unprotected sex, right? Just take your chances, what's the worst that could happen?

    Or you could just isolate yourself, never have sex again, and you'd be just fine.

    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    This tactic of changing the subject, making ridiculous comparisons and leading everything astray is getting old fast... Nobody here could explain what is really going on with this unhinged government overreach... what's the real reason behind mandating some shady vaxx for a disease with more than 99% survival rate... After all - how is a forced jab any different that forced organ harvesting? Where all that madness leads and how will it end?

    But hey, instead of tackling these issues it's much easier to smear the other side and make the sceptics look like a bunch of stupid, illiterate, paranoid conspiracy theorists. Politicians and media are doing this all the time...

    Sadly, it looks like we need a new batch of conspiracy theories because the current ones are coming true... From "just two weeks to flatten the curve" to "show me your papers"... Ewww.

    CRLF [2095076]

    (The Case Fatality Rate (CFR) is the ratio between confirmed deaths and confirmed cases.)

    The average annual infant mortality rate attributed to pertussis is 3.8 per 1,000,000 live births. (Mandatory childhood vaccine)

    Death from measles was reported in approximately 0.2% of the cases in the United States from 1985 through 1992. (Mandatory childhood vaccine).

    The overall case-fatality rate of mumps is 1.6–3.8 people per 10,000 (Mandatory childhood vaccine)

    Case fatality rate for COVID in the US is 1.6% (1.6 per 100) and total deaths per 100k population is 205.18.
    (Vaccine optional)

    Did you get your childhood vaccines? Did you know they are mandatory in most states? It is also a "forced jab". And yes... you do have to "show your papers" for childhood vaccines in order to attend school.

    Why would this vaccine be any different from other vaccines you are required to get?

    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    Ahh, another switcheroo... twisting everything to fit into the current narrative... This rationale is why they changed the very definition of vaccines, so everyone would believe this experimental gene therapy is in the same ballpark like these old and proven vaccines.



    Sorry, still not buying this BS.

    CRLF [2095076]

    It's not gene therapy. It's a vaccination.

    It sounds like you gathered up a bunch of misinformation from some anti-vax sites and are just slamming it here so you can try to win some sort of argument.

    It seems as though you're more interested in "winning" than in any way coming to an accurate conclusion. I'm sorry your life sucks so much and you feel so insignificant in RL that you have to "win" in an online forum discussion without any attempt to have a practical discussion.

    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    Oh, it is a vaccination after all? Okay. Then why we have so dramatic surge of covid cases in highly vaxxed Israel? These jabs were supposed to prevent this, remember?

    And what about the big pharma being extempt from any liability? How am I supposed to get over that? Of course, I no longer expect any real answers from you.

    As for your incoherent opinion about my life spiced with shaming and petty insults, that automatically disqualifies you from any further conversation. Bye bye :)
    No, the vaccines do not prevent infection. They reduce the rate of infection, but no one ever said they'd prevent it 100%. 

    The vaccine is supposed to reduce the likelihood of death or serious illness, and it does.

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    Had I known a few insults would cause you to vacate the forum, I would have made them a lot sooner.

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    (The Case Fatality Rate (CFR) is the ratio between confirmed deaths and confirmed cases.)

    The average annual infant mortality rate attributed to pertussis is 3.8 per 1,000,000 live births. (Mandatory childhood vaccine)

    Death from measles was reported in approximately 0.2% of the cases in the United States from 1985 through 1992. (Mandatory childhood vaccine).

    The overall case-fatality rate of mumps is 1.6–3.8 people per 10,000 (Mandatory childhood vaccine)

    Case fatality rate for COVID in the US is 1.6% (1.6 per 100) and total deaths per 100k population is 205.18.
    (Vaccine optional)

    Did you get your childhood vaccines? Did you know they are mandatory in most states? It is also a "forced jab". And yes... you do have to "show your papers" for childhood vaccines in order to attend school.

    Why would this vaccine be any different from other vaccines you are required to get?

    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    Ahh, another switcheroo... twisting everything to fit into the current narrative... This rationale is why they changed the very definition of vaccines, so everyone would believe this experimental gene therapy is in the same ballpark like these old and proven vaccines.



    Sorry, still not buying this BS.

    Diking [1951369]

    This might surprise you but science tends to change over time. I know it’s hard to wrap your head around but that’s the idea.

    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    Yet the scientific community and doctors are very polarized about this mess... there is no clear scientific consensus so far... all we have are political lies, propaganda, fear porn, cooking up the numbers with unreliable "tests", psychological warfare, coercion, censorship and so on.

    On top of it all nobody is held accountable for these experimental jabs... the big pharma is extempt from liability... and I am supposed to trust these criminals with my health? No thanks.

    Diking [1951369]

    I’m sorry but I don’t think any respectable member of the scientific community is against the covid vaccine. I don’t know where this is coming from

    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    - Professor Didier Raoult: “There are 70% side effects with the Pfizer vaccine, we had never seen that with a vaccine! “

    - Nobel laureate Luc Montagnier warns covid vaccine may lead to ‘Neurodegenerative Illness’

    - Dr. Michael Yeadon, the former vice president, and scientific director for Pfizer has come forward with evidence that widespread SCIENCE FRAUD was used in the 2020 race for a coronavirus vaccine.

    In pursuit of speedy regulatory approval, Pfizer abandoned all scientific integrity. The study design for new mRNA injections is based on fraudulent diagnostic protocols that manipulate data endpoints and conceal the short and long-term adverse events inflicted by their vaccines.

    Dr. Yeadon is joined by a German lung specialist, Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg. The two brave doctors have filed an urgent application with the European Medicine Agency, calling out the BioNtech/Pfizer vaccine study because it’s based on FRAUD.
    Didier Raoult (makes money off of hydroxychloroquine):

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/12/magazine/didier-raoult-hydroxychloroquine.html

    Luc Montagnier (false claim):

    https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-health-coronavirus/fact-check-there-is-no-evidence-to-suggest-covid-19-vaccines-will-kill-people-by-causing-antibody-dependent-enhancement-current-evidence-demonstrates-the-opposite-idUSL2N2ND0WS

    Michael Yeadon (also claimed in December that the pandemic was over):

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/dec/02/blog-posting/former-pfizer-employee-wrong-coronavirus-pandemic-/

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    I suggest for your future false claims you use this handy list, "Updated (29 June 2021) COVID TRUTH DOCTORS: A LIST YOU CAN PROVIDE TO NORMIES ".

    https://greatawakening.win/p/12jJBxsGwB/updated-29-june-2021-covid-truth/

    It looks like a great site for all your conspiracy theories. In fact, maybe you should just go there. You should be very popular.
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    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    - Professor Didier Raoult: “There are 70% side effects with the Pfizer vaccine, we had never seen that with a vaccine! “

    - Nobel laureate Luc Montagnier warns covid vaccine may lead to ‘Neurodegenerative Illness’

    - Dr. Michael Yeadon, the former vice president, and scientific director for Pfizer has come forward with evidence that widespread SCIENCE FRAUD was used in the 2020 race for a coronavirus vaccine.

    In pursuit of speedy regulatory approval, Pfizer abandoned all scientific integrity. The study design for new mRNA injections is based on fraudulent diagnostic protocols that manipulate data endpoints and conceal the short and long-term adverse events inflicted by their vaccines.

    Dr. Yeadon is joined by a German lung specialist, Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg. The two brave doctors have filed an urgent application with the European Medicine Agency, calling out the BioNtech/Pfizer vaccine study because it’s based on FRAUD.
    - Professor Didier Raoult: “There are 70% side effects with the Pfizer vaccine, we had never seen that with a vaccine! “
    "Professor Didier Raoult, known for his defense of a controversial treatment of Covid-19, said on Friday, July 9 on Twitter, to be in favor of the "systematic vaccination" of caregivers."

    https://bbc-edition.com/international/2021/07/09/controversial-professor-didier-raoult-in-favor-of-systematic-vaccination-of-caregivers/


    No, Nobel Laureate Luc Montagnier did not say that. He also didn't say any of the other things being attributed to him.


    https://www.timesnownews.com/health/article/fact-check-no-nobel-laureate-luc-montagnier-did-not-say-all-those-vaccinated-for-covid-will-die-in-2-years/762223


    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/05/27/fact-check-false-claim-vaccines-attributed-nobel-prize-winner/7435564002/


    - Dr. Michael Yeadon, the former vice president, and scientific director for Pfizer has come forward with evidence that widespread SCIENCE FRAUD was used in the 2020 race for a coronavirus vaccine.
    The only thing he said that could be considered controversial is that in his opinions, the virus is likely manmade.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/luc-montagnier-covid-created-lab/


    - Dr. Michael Yeadon, the former vice president, and scientific director for Pfizer has come forward with evidence that widespread SCIENCE FRAUD was used in the 2020 race for a coronavirus vaccine.
    This is false. Dr. Michael Yeadon has said that all the governments are lying, and that the vaccine rollout is the illuminati's plan for depopulating the Earth, and that everyone that takes the vaccine will be dead in 2 years. He has provided no evidence for this whatsoever. He is just saying things with no proof. He was not working with Pfizer during any of the vaccine's development - he left in 2011. Has no more access to Pfizer's internal documents as you or I. He is using his former title as a cash-grab, and every one of his claims has been debunked.
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    No, the vaccines do not prevent infection. They reduce the rate of infection, but no one ever said they'd prevent it 100%.

    The vaccine is supposed to reduce the likelihood of death or serious illness, and it does.

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    Had I known a few insults would cause you to vacate the forum, I would have made them a lot sooner.

    Attention shoppers: A few casual insults to Samoiedskaya [1709631] will cause her to stop talking to you. Who knew it would be so simple?
    It only takes a couple of insults to get rid of well known piss drinker Samoiedskaya?

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    Well, here is the other side of the story in contrast to this mainstream propaganda from above...

    - New VAERS Data as of July 2, 2021
    9,571 Deaths and 480,700 Adverse Events
    9,048 Pfizer / Moderna and 523 J&J Deaths PLUS 438,441 Pfizer / Moderna and 42,359 J&J Adverse Events

    - Number of Deaths Reported After COVID Vaccines Jumps by More Than 2,000 in 1 Week, According to VAERS

    - Latest CDC VAERS Data Show Reported Injuries Surpass 11,000 in Ages 12 to 17 Following COVID Vaccines

    - Eric Clapton details his vaccine injury

    - VAERS: Nearly 5,000 US deaths after experimental COVID injections, more than 23 previous years of recorded vaccine deaths

    - Peer reviewed study showing that the Covid vaccine is killing people: "Temporal association is a critical piece of evidence in causality; the test for clustering of the events so near the vaccination event provides a critical test of the hypothesis of causality."

    - Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance.

    - As Vaccines Continue to Not Work as Promised – Ivermectin Continues to Work

    Etc etc etc... Conspiracy theories my ass - like I stated before: people are either too corrupt / immoral to recognize all the lies... or too brainwashed to think for themselves.

    With bleeding inside the head there is a metallic taste at the back of the throat.

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    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    Well, here is the other side of the story in contrast to this mainstream propaganda from above...

    - New VAERS Data as of July 2, 2021
    9,571 Deaths and 480,700 Adverse Events
    9,048 Pfizer / Moderna and 523 J&J Deaths PLUS 438,441 Pfizer / Moderna and 42,359 J&J Adverse Events

    - Number of Deaths Reported After COVID Vaccines Jumps by More Than 2,000 in 1 Week, According to VAERS

    - Latest CDC VAERS Data Show Reported Injuries Surpass 11,000 in Ages 12 to 17 Following COVID Vaccines

    - Eric Clapton details his vaccine injury

    - VAERS: Nearly 5,000 US deaths after experimental COVID injections, more than 23 previous years of recorded vaccine deaths

    - Peer reviewed study showing that the Covid vaccine is killing people: "Temporal association is a critical piece of evidence in causality; the test for clustering of the events so near the vaccination event provides a critical test of the hypothesis of causality."

    - Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance.

    - As Vaccines Continue to Not Work as Promised – Ivermectin Continues to Work

    Etc etc etc... Conspiracy theories my ass - like I stated before: people are either too corrupt / immoral to recognize all the lies... or too brainwashed to think for themselves.
    Alright I'll bite. 

    Is VAERS a reliable source? They don't verify their data and there doesn't seem to be restrictions on submission. It seems to exist as an early warning system for going "oh hey this is being reported through this, let's check it out."
    To quote from their website: " The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable."

    I don't know about you, but using unverified data as fact isn't very good.

    As for Eric.. he could be playing it up. Who knows! I'm not really a fan of anecdotes. Unless you want Nicki Minaj to act as an authority on the subject, which uh. Oof. Oh also if Eric has such big issues.. why would he go back on his word about mandates? https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/eric-clapton-vaccine-mandate-show-smoothie-king-1229285/
    But still all pretty anecdotal, not really scientific so I'm up for dropping this.

    Oh more Vaers? Not really good is it? We really should be citing better data.

    .
    So lets get to the actual meat shall we? Your peer reviewed study. Well firstly it was published in May. Not really up to date now is it, surely if we had such data then we could have a much more recent paper. Oh and I did actually read the paper, not the article, the paper itself. And at least it was semi-scientific. That was nice.
    Problems. It is an analysis of VAERS data, not ideal. Secondly, really early data without verification? I'll quote from the paper. "It cannot be emphasized enough that this is very early data and that, based on the dynamic nature of the data, these conclusions may not be the same in a month’s time"

    I took a look at the Journal as well. My my. It's a bad sign when I can't track down any comments about if the journal is reputable or not. Or even a clear about page. But they have a paypal donation link? That's awfully unprofessional for a scientific journal tbf.
    As a note to the character of the journal, I found a study pretty front and centre on their main page. Published the the editor of the journal and all!
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7709050/
    Oh wait. Retracted, issues with " the validity of the conclusions of the published research.". By a fairly reputable paper and all.. big heckin oof. And I couldn't find any documentation of their peer review process which sucks. So although I suspect it may just be the editor giving it a once over and going "neat", I can't back it up and so I'm not making it as a claim.

    Also, I wasted too much time with this, so I'm finishing this post without bothering with a conclusion.



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    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    Well, here is the other side of the story in contrast to this mainstream propaganda from above...

    - New VAERS Data as of July 2, 2021
    9,571 Deaths and 480,700 Adverse Events
    9,048 Pfizer / Moderna and 523 J&J Deaths PLUS 438,441 Pfizer / Moderna and 42,359 J&J Adverse Events

    - Number of Deaths Reported After COVID Vaccines Jumps by More Than 2,000 in 1 Week, According to VAERS

    - Latest CDC VAERS Data Show Reported Injuries Surpass 11,000 in Ages 12 to 17 Following COVID Vaccines

    - Eric Clapton details his vaccine injury

    - VAERS: Nearly 5,000 US deaths after experimental COVID injections, more than 23 previous years of recorded vaccine deaths

    - Peer reviewed study showing that the Covid vaccine is killing people: "Temporal association is a critical piece of evidence in causality; the test for clustering of the events so near the vaccination event provides a critical test of the hypothesis of causality."

    - Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance.

    - As Vaccines Continue to Not Work as Promised – Ivermectin Continues to Work

    Etc etc etc... Conspiracy theories my ass - like I stated before: people are either too corrupt / immoral to recognize all the lies... or too brainwashed to think for themselves.

    Pinkie [1886343]

    Alright I'll bite.

    Is VAERS a reliable source? They don't verify their data and there doesn't seem to be restrictions on submission. It seems to exist as an early warning system for going "oh hey this is being reported through this, let's check it out."
    To quote from their website: " The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable."

    I don't know about you, but using unverified data as fact isn't very good.

    As for Eric.. he could be playing it up. Who knows! I'm not really a fan of anecdotes. Unless you want Nicki Minaj to act as an authority on the subject, which uh. Oof. Oh also if Eric has such big issues.. why would he go back on his word about mandates? https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/eric-clapton-vaccine-mandate-show-smoothie-king-1229285/
    But still all pretty anecdotal, not really scientific so I'm up for dropping this.

    Oh more Vaers? Not really good is it? We really should be citing better data.

    .
    So lets get to the actual meat shall we? Your peer reviewed study. Well firstly it was published in May. Not really up to date now is it, surely if we had such data then we could have a much more recent paper. Oh and I did actually read the paper, not the article, the paper itself. And at least it was semi-scientific. That was nice.
    Problems. It is an analysis of VAERS data, not ideal. Secondly, really early data without verification? I'll quote from the paper. "It cannot be emphasized enough that this is very early data and that, based on the dynamic nature of the data, these conclusions may not be the same in a month’s time"

    I took a look at the Journal as well. My my. It's a bad sign when I can't track down any comments about if the journal is reputable or not. Or even a clear about page. But they have a paypal donation link? That's awfully unprofessional for a scientific journal tbf.
    As a note to the character of the journal, I found a study pretty front and centre on their main page. Published the the editor of the journal and all!
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7709050/
    Oh wait. Retracted, issues with " the validity of the conclusions of the published research.". By a fairly reputable paper and all.. big heckin oof. And I couldn't find any documentation of their peer review process which sucks. So although I suspect it may just be the editor giving it a once over and going "neat", I can't back it up and so I'm not making it as a claim.

    Also, I wasted too much time with this, so I'm finishing this post without bothering with a conclusion.
    VAERS is a self reporting system, which can be easily abused, that is the problem

    "VAERS is ripe for exploitation because it relies on unverified self-reports of side effects. Anyone who received a vaccine can submit a report. And because this information is publicly available, misinterpretations of its data has been used to amplify COVID-19 misinformation through dubious social media channels and mass media, including one of the most popular shows on cable news."

    https://theconversation.com/unverified-reports-of-vaccine-side-effects-in-vaers-arent-the-smoking-guns-portrayed-by-right-wing-media-outlets-they-can-offer-insight-into-vaccine-hesitancy-166401
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    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    Well, here is the other side of the story in contrast to this mainstream propaganda from above...

    - New VAERS Data as of July 2, 2021
    9,571 Deaths and 480,700 Adverse Events
    9,048 Pfizer / Moderna and 523 J&J Deaths PLUS 438,441 Pfizer / Moderna and 42,359 J&J Adverse Events

    - Number of Deaths Reported After COVID Vaccines Jumps by More Than 2,000 in 1 Week, According to VAERS

    - Latest CDC VAERS Data Show Reported Injuries Surpass 11,000 in Ages 12 to 17 Following COVID Vaccines

    - Eric Clapton details his vaccine injury

    - VAERS: Nearly 5,000 US deaths after experimental COVID injections, more than 23 previous years of recorded vaccine deaths

    - Peer reviewed study showing that the Covid vaccine is killing people: "Temporal association is a critical piece of evidence in causality; the test for clustering of the events so near the vaccination event provides a critical test of the hypothesis of causality."

    - Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance.

    - As Vaccines Continue to Not Work as Promised – Ivermectin Continues to Work

    Etc etc etc... Conspiracy theories my ass - like I stated before: people are either too corrupt / immoral to recognize all the lies... or too brainwashed to think for themselves.
    VAERS data is unconfirmed data, its just a report logged for triage, withing a short time frame of taking a certain med, the vast majority is of no actual interest, if you even bother to read those reports you might have the IQ to understand some of it.... for some reason anti-vaxers think that  a vaccine if it would work it would make people immortal for the next what ever amount of time  ...  lets take the very 1st report as example (
    VAERS ID:909095

    )
    "Refused dialysis frequently resulting in episodes of hypokalemia and hospitalization, resident dependent on supplemental oxygen. The resident refused to go to dialysis on 12/23/2020 and said he was feeling fine."

    i wonder what killed him ... refusing to dialysis or the vaccine ??? i wonder .... gee these vaccines must really be killers they even fail to replace life supporting dialysis

    Raw unprocessed data in VAERS means sqwadouch on a stick ...

    Yes vaccines have risks, you can be allergic to one of the ingredients, the statistical risk of you dying from the vaccine is in the same ball park of you dying from food allergy 1 or 2 in a million per year. it means potentially a hand full of hundreds people die in the USA
    plus some other inflammatory adverse reactions that can cause issues , yes its true, its in the information leaflet its not a secret !!!its on the box, you dont need youtube to research all the potential adverse complications.


    480,700 Adverse Events .... oh my god ... its the end of the world apart form the alergic reaction ones 99% of those are negligeble ... i had a sore arm could just as well logged in mine making it 480701!!!

    "... or too brainwashed to think for themselves"
    Plot twist: maybe you are being manipulated by the Big Pharma companies that make billions with hospitalized/ICU patients into not taking the vaccine so they can have customers !!! .... or worst... its aliens!!!!
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    "Raw unprocessed data in VAERS means sqwadouch on a stick" - says the clearly biased and opinionated person :D But okay, moving to other sources...

    - 23,252 Deaths 2,189,537 Injuries Following COVID Shots Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions

    - U.S. Sen. Johnson Holds News Conference With Families Injured by COVID Vaccines, Ignored by Medical Community

    - COVID-19 RNA Based Vaccines and the Risk of Prion Disease

    - New physicians’ alliance: Hospitals are killing people, doctors are being ‘hamstrung’ by regulators, leading to ‘hundreds of thousands of excess unnecessary deaths’

    - Pfizer refused to supply South America with covid vaccines until governments removed all liability for injuries, deaths

    - Midazolam was used to prematurely end the lives of thousands who you were told had died of Covid-19

    - Forcing people to take these “poison death shots” is genocide: “Trusting the science” could be a fatal mistake, especially when the science is flawed

    - And last but not least: great speach by Reiner Fuellmich

    Because no one has more thoroughly investigated everything about the criminal covid enterprise than Dr. Reiner Fuellmich and his team. Dr. Fuellmich is a lawyer licensed in both Germany and the USA. Previously, he has defeated multiple giant corporations, while defending us common people. He is arguably the world's greatest class action lawsuit experts in history. His German Corona Investigative Committee has been diligently analyzing more than 110 experts' testimonies since July 2020.

    There is no speculation or "conspiracy theory" behind this brief powerful summation. He reveals the 0.14% mortality rate; the fake pandemic based on the fraudulent PCR "test" which has been used to justify the abuse and deadly experimental injection campaign; the suppressed effective treatments; and ~500,000 deaths by injection in the USA alone in just 6 months.

    Dr. Fuellmich exposes some of the murderers: big pharma, Bill Gates, the Chinese communist dictators, corrupted politicians, bureaucrats, and NGO's, under global corporate control.

    He describes the scamdemic's real goals, which are not our health, but rather: destroying regional economies to force us into their global corporate economy; shifting the entire world's wealth into their pockets; and killing off human beings (population reduction).

    So yeah, me being extremely skeptical about everything coming from the government is the only logical course of action for me. If others want to be mask cucks and lab rat science experiments - that is their valid choice I guess. They could take a needle every morning for all I care... but stop forcing your vaxx-covid religion into the rest of us.

    This is the end of discussion for me... so I will finish all this with one great quote:

    And always remember: A government, at bottom, is nothing more than a gang of men, and as a practical matter most of them are inferior men … Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man. There has never been a really good one, and even those that are most tolerable are arbitrary, cruel, grasping and unintelligent. Indeed, it would not be far wrong to describe the best as the common enemy of all decent citizens.
    — H. L. Mencken
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    "Raw unprocessed data in VAERS means sqwadouch on a stick" - says the clearly biased and opinionated person :D But okay, moving to other sources...

    - 23,252 Deaths 2,189,537 Injuries Following COVID Shots Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions

    - U.S. Sen. Johnson Holds News Conference With Families Injured by COVID Vaccines, Ignored by Medical Community

    - COVID-19 RNA Based Vaccines and the Risk of Prion Disease

    - New physicians’ alliance: Hospitals are killing people, doctors are being ‘hamstrung’ by regulators, leading to ‘hundreds of thousands of excess unnecessary deaths’

    - Pfizer refused to supply South America with covid vaccines until governments removed all liability for injuries, deaths

    - Midazolam was used to prematurely end the lives of thousands who you were told had died of Covid-19

    - Forcing people to take these “poison death shots” is genocide: “Trusting the science” could be a fatal mistake, especially when the science is flawed

    - And last but not least: great speach by Reiner Fuellmich

    Because no one has more thoroughly investigated everything about the criminal covid enterprise than Dr. Reiner Fuellmich and his team. Dr. Fuellmich is a lawyer licensed in both Germany and the USA. Previously, he has defeated multiple giant corporations, while defending us common people. He is arguably the world's greatest class action lawsuit experts in history. His German Corona Investigative Committee has been diligently analyzing more than 110 experts' testimonies since July 2020.

    There is no speculation or "conspiracy theory" behind this brief powerful summation. He reveals the 0.14% mortality rate; the fake pandemic based on the fraudulent PCR "test" which has been used to justify the abuse and deadly experimental injection campaign; the suppressed effective treatments; and ~500,000 deaths by injection in the USA alone in just 6 months.

    Dr. Fuellmich exposes some of the murderers: big pharma, Bill Gates, the Chinese communist dictators, corrupted politicians, bureaucrats, and NGO's, under global corporate control.

    He describes the scamdemic's real goals, which are not our health, but rather: destroying regional economies to force us into their global corporate economy; shifting the entire world's wealth into their pockets; and killing off human beings (population reduction).

    So yeah, me being extremely skeptical about everything coming from the government is the only logical course of action for me. If others want to be mask cucks and lab rat science experiments - that is their valid choice I guess. They could take a needle every morning for all I care... but stop forcing your vaxx-covid religion into the rest of us.

    This is the end of discussion for me... so I will finish all this with one great quote:

    And always remember: A government, at bottom, is nothing more than a gang of men, and as a practical matter most of them are inferior men … Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man. There has never been a really good one, and even those that are most tolerable are arbitrary, cruel, grasping and unintelligent. Indeed, it would not be far wrong to describe the best as the common enemy of all decent citizens.
    — H. L. Mencken
    Just for anyone not aware, this is part two of the bad faith actors arsenal, I call it “throw enough shit, and hope something sticks” 

    Sam has made a post with lots of dubious claims, then when someone heroically goes through them all showing they are a load of bollocks instead of trying to defend any of her original points she then fires another salvo of bullshit.


    The whole point here isn’t to “prove herself right” it’s to muddy the waters so much that people become fatigued with disproving her, thereby she gets to make these claims unopposed.


    The best thing to do (IMO) is to just point out the bad faith tactic they are using and move along. To waste your time proving what they’ve said is bollocks is just playing into their hands.


    Also since it’s the end of the Discussion for Sam I will finish with this one great quote

    ”Once when I was reheating my piss in the microwave I did it for too long, then when I took my first sip I burnt my mouth. Let that be a lesson to you, you need to be careful when you warm up your own piss to drink it again” - Samoiedskaya
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    Well, here is the other side of the story in contrast to this mainstream propaganda from above...

    - New VAERS Data as of July 2, 2021
    9,571 Deaths and 480,700 Adverse Events
    9,048 Pfizer / Moderna and 523 J&J Deaths PLUS 438,441 Pfizer / Moderna and 42,359 J&J Adverse Events

    - Number of Deaths Reported After COVID Vaccines Jumps by More Than 2,000 in 1 Week, According to VAERS

    - Latest CDC VAERS Data Show Reported Injuries Surpass 11,000 in Ages 12 to 17 Following COVID Vaccines

    - Eric Clapton details his vaccine injury

    - VAERS: Nearly 5,000 US deaths after experimental COVID injections, more than 23 previous years of recorded vaccine deaths

    - Peer reviewed study showing that the Covid vaccine is killing people: "Temporal association is a critical piece of evidence in causality; the test for clustering of the events so near the vaccination event provides a critical test of the hypothesis of causality."

    - Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance.

    - As Vaccines Continue to Not Work as Promised – Ivermectin Continues to Work

    Etc etc etc... Conspiracy theories my ass - like I stated before: people are either too corrupt / immoral to recognize all the lies... or too brainwashed to think for themselves.
    Man you really are a useful idiot for the anti-vaxx narrative. Do you actually understand what is in the VAERS data? Have you ever actually looked at the data itself or do you let conspiracy websites do the thinking for you? If you had gone to the VAERS website you would have seen the disclaimer that causality cannot be obtained from VAERS data alone because 1. Information provided is on a voluntary basis and 2. Information can be submitted by anyone and thus is subject to being biased, inaccurate, coincidental, or incomplete.


    The kicker here is that your "peer reviewed study" isn't actually peer reviewed at all. The "Journal" in which it is published in is called An Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge (IPAK). The author of the study is James Lyons-Weiler, PHD who funny enough.... is the CEO of IPAK. Now you're probably asking why I didn't call him Dr. Lyons-Weiler... Well that's because he does not have a medical degree; rather the man has PHD in zoology and ecology. He's been in litigation about vaccines before. In a case where a plaintiff was trying to seek damages for the HPV vaccine, the judge ruled that:

    "Dr. Lyons-Weiler appears to be wholly unqualified to opine on the question of vaccine causation. His academic training centered on zoology and ecology, not medicine or immunology, and he does not appear to have performed research or published peer-reviewed work on any subject relevant to the present matter.”

    Apparently that ruling hasn't phased him one bit as he is offering "courses" at his "university" for $160 a class teaching subjects he is wholly unqualified for. I'm sure James Lyons-Weiler appreciates useful idiots like yourself for steering traffic to his website and money into his pocket.
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    Samoiedskaya [1709631]

    "Raw unprocessed data in VAERS means sqwadouch on a stick" - says the clearly biased and opinionated person :D But okay, moving to other sources...

    - 23,252 Deaths 2,189,537 Injuries Following COVID Shots Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions

    - U.S. Sen. Johnson Holds News Conference With Families Injured by COVID Vaccines, Ignored by Medical Community

    - COVID-19 RNA Based Vaccines and the Risk of Prion Disease

    - New physicians’ alliance: Hospitals are killing people, doctors are being ‘hamstrung’ by regulators, leading to ‘hundreds of thousands of excess unnecessary deaths’

    - Pfizer refused to supply South America with covid vaccines until governments removed all liability for injuries, deaths

    - Midazolam was used to prematurely end the lives of thousands who you were told had died of Covid-19

    - Forcing people to take these “poison death shots” is genocide: “Trusting the science” could be a fatal mistake, especially when the science is flawed

    - And last but not least: great speach by Reiner Fuellmich

    Because no one has more thoroughly investigated everything about the criminal covid enterprise than Dr. Reiner Fuellmich and his team. Dr. Fuellmich is a lawyer licensed in both Germany and the USA. Previously, he has defeated multiple giant corporations, while defending us common people. He is arguably the world's greatest class action lawsuit experts in history. His German Corona Investigative Committee has been diligently analyzing more than 110 experts' testimonies since July 2020.

    There is no speculation or "conspiracy theory" behind this brief powerful summation. He reveals the 0.14% mortality rate; the fake pandemic based on the fraudulent PCR "test" which has been used to justify the abuse and deadly experimental injection campaign; the suppressed effective treatments; and ~500,000 deaths by injection in the USA alone in just 6 months.

    Dr. Fuellmich exposes some of the murderers: big pharma, Bill Gates, the Chinese communist dictators, corrupted politicians, bureaucrats, and NGO's, under global corporate control.

    He describes the scamdemic's real goals, which are not our health, but rather: destroying regional economies to force us into their global corporate economy; shifting the entire world's wealth into their pockets; and killing off human beings (population reduction).

    So yeah, me being extremely skeptical about everything coming from the government is the only logical course of action for me. If others want to be mask cucks and lab rat science experiments - that is their valid choice I guess. They could take a needle every morning for all I care... but stop forcing your vaxx-covid religion into the rest of us.

    This is the end of discussion for me... so I will finish all this with one great quote:

    And always remember: A government, at bottom, is nothing more than a gang of men, and as a practical matter most of them are inferior men … Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man. There has never been a really good one, and even those that are most tolerable are arbitrary, cruel, grasping and unintelligent. Indeed, it would not be far wrong to describe the best as the common enemy of all decent citizens.
    — H. L. Mencken
    ... here we go again 
    so now you go from VAERS to the european counter part ... lets start with the disclaimer ... https://www.adrreports.eu/en/disclaimer.html
    • The information on this website does not reflect any confirmation of a potential link between the medicine and the observed effect(s).
    its actually extremely under reported 20% plus people get a sore arm ... it's short by millions of reports
    this is a log everything pool ...
    you will find 100.000 "injuries" from asprin .... 1700 "injuries" from caffeine stating shit you cant understand because it has a big number means shit....

    "- COVID-19 RNA Based Vaccines and the Risk of Prion Disease"
    Garbage ... 0 supporting evidence of anything, the claim that vaccines cause diabetes is absurd, show me a study proving it ... this is mumbling garbage
    oh..... before we get sued lets add a disclaimer"Disclaimer: Principia Scientific International CIC publishes medical material on our website for educational purposes only. The contents should not be considered to be medical advice. All articles on the site represent the opinion(s) of the contributor(s) and do not necessarily reflect the views of the association." .... now lets see does it state our claims are scientificly founded??? oooops f**k no ... the good thing is morons only have selective reading abilities. and we will be safe :)

    "Pfizer refused to supply South America with covid vaccines until governments removed all liability for injuries, deaths"
    correct it is public knowledge... amply broadcasted in the so called main stream media ... i guess you dont watch that because you do your own "research" .... they did it everywere not only in SA they are operating under a EMERGENCY USAGE LICENCES. in the US they are now liable since a permanent license was issued. pretty sure that was the agreement.


    as a personal disclaimer: " says the clearly biased and opinionated person :D" ... i do work for a big pharma IRL, with 0 skin in the vaccine "game" but making a crap load of money keeping unvaccinated fools alive in hospital beds and ICU units.,
    I have no issues with people that are able to refuse the vaccines on founded reasons, but tin foil hat morons just piss me off.


    here, i will help you, with some proper arguments:

    1)i have a history of allergies, for ex: pfizer scares me because polyethylene glycol, is in some ways a peanut: (go get allergy testing, and take the shot)
    2) this is not properly tested and does not have long term studies made ... it operating under a emergency authorization
    correct: if you are that scared wait for licenses to become permanent and go take the shot. billions will have taken it ahead already for over 2-3 years which is close to the shortest approval process.
    3) i am afraid of needles .... dont be a pussy and grow up


    now take off your stupid tin foil hat, inform your self properly ... its OK to say no, but its not ok to miss inform others with donkey tin foil hat shit.

    stupidity annoys me
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    I Ain't vaccine hesitant,  I'm vaccine informed.



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    Styledcurve [2493033]

    I Ain't vaccine hesitant, I'm vaccine informed.



    got vaccinated in june, how long do i have left?

    "Refusing to help a neighbor who's house burned down is shitty. Refusing when you helped start the fire is monstrous."

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