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    Posted on 18:16:27 - 06/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Mandarin.
    Spanish / Portuguese.

    But I will first focus on things other culture might find offensive

    Or Afrikaans.
    "But I will first focus on things other culture might find offensive"

    This.

    I've worked with many different people from many different faiths/cultures.
    If you can respect another person it will take you far, no matter your language barrier.

    As for learning a language, the way I found easiest is just to be around people who speak that language.

    I learned Afrikaans and Zulu by being surrounded by people speaking those languages.
    I now live in the uk and my zulu has gone to shit as I no longer need to speak it.
    Just keep practicing once you get a grasp

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    Posted on 20:36:23 - 06/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    The Welsh language is very similar to Orcish, and as such, is very wearing on the vocal chords. Tbh, I'd give it a miss.

    But I shot a man in Torn, just to watch him die

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    The Welsh language is very similar to Orcish, and as such, is very wearing on the vocal chords. Tbh, I'd give it a miss.
    So Klingon is off the table as well I guess
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    Posted on 22:31:04 - 06/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Latin. Then you can understand lots of medical and legal jargon plus sound like the Illuminati
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    Maiden [2100996]

    Latin. Then you can understand lots of medical and legal jargon plus sound like the Illuminati
    Caecilius est im hortum

    Latin did me wonders, still haven't found any wandering centurions to use it on though

    Also all words come from Greek not Latin.. (just watch my big fat greek wedding for info)
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    Posted on 01:34:12 - 07/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Mandarin or Spanish
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    Posted on 04:44:25 - 07/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    For international use, Spanish/French/German/Mandarin

    If you wanna be cool, learn Welsh

    Were you expecting a picture or something?

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    L4suicide [15699]

    Mandalorian

    of course it depends on your career. Mandalorian is pretty solid if you want to go into interstellar history.


    Otherwise I’d go with Mandarin, Bahasa, Spanish (in that order) due to the financial powerhouses that south east Asia will be dominating with in the next 20-30 years.

    in fact you might as well give up speaking English..
    This is the way

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    Posted on 23:06:53 - 07/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    For practical reasons I'd take the time to learn more Spanish.

    I want to move to South America eventually so I'd go for Portuguese next.
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    Posted on 23:31:59 - 07/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Chinese, Mandarin. Some of my favourite novels are Chinese. More shocking and honest than you might expect from a Western pov

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    Posted on 07:07:40 - 08/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Thought I'd ask the masses as opinions from around the world may help me here.

    I've recently changed jobs and work within a large international company. There will be occasions where I will be communicating with others from around the world. A lot of this will be via email so in itself it's not a barrier, but this got me thinking.

    My main language, and only other than a few basic words, is English.

    I'd like to learn a 2nd language. And I ask for your input as I can't simply base it on which languages I'm most likely to come into contact with, as they have customers in over 190 countries, so there's a good few to choose from.

    If you were to choose to learn a 2nd (or another) language with the main aim of it potentially coming into play with career progression, which language would you choose and, importantly, why? Which languages have you found to be most beneficial or widely used for yourself?

    Tia
    French.

    Best to consider which ones refuse to learn and are most strongly averse to speaking English. Just some opinions based on my experiences working with people around the world.

    French
    +A lot don't speak English
    +Those that can mostly seem to not want to.
    +Solid economy
    +Even trying to speak French instantly shifts a switch in their heads
    -None

    Russian
    +A lot don't speak English
    -Not generally a business lucrative country, especially the ones that don't speak/want to speak English

    Mandarin
    +Large economy big in business
    +Probably similar to French where they'll look at you in a much more positive light if you're even trying.
    -Most you deal with probably have strong English skills

    Spanish
    +Very large language reach
    -As with others, probably already speak solid English.

    German
    +Major language, strong economy
    -Most speak English and prefer it when talking to English speakers and sometimes even speak it to eachother.
    -Probably think you have some Nazi fetish just for learning it.

    I think that covers the ones most mentioned here. In general, you're probably only dealing with people that already speak solid English, which would narrow it down to the ones that will most quickly shift their opinion of you for trying to speak their language.

    If you do learn a language, you should do it because it's fun though. Any other reason and don't waste your time. If it's not fun for you, stop.
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    TheDevilsBigToe [2204723]

    Thought I'd ask the masses as opinions from around the world may help me here.

    I've recently changed jobs and work within a large international company. There will be occasions where I will be communicating with others from around the world. A lot of this will be via email so in itself it's not a barrier, but this got me thinking.

    My main language, and only other than a few basic words, is English.

    I'd like to learn a 2nd language. And I ask for your input as I can't simply base it on which languages I'm most likely to come into contact with, as they have customers in over 190 countries, so there's a good few to choose from.

    If you were to choose to learn a 2nd (or another) language with the main aim of it potentially coming into play with career progression, which language would you choose and, importantly, why? Which languages have you found to be most beneficial or widely used for yourself?

    Tia

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    French.

    Best to consider which ones refuse to learn and are most strongly averse to speaking English. Just some opinions based on my experiences working with people around the world.

    French
    +A lot don't speak English
    +Those that can mostly seem to not want to.
    +Solid economy
    +Even trying to speak French instantly shifts a switch in their heads
    -None

    Russian
    +A lot don't speak English
    -Not generally a business lucrative country, especially the ones that don't speak/want to speak English

    Mandarin
    +Large economy big in business
    +Probably similar to French where they'll look at you in a much more positive light if you're even trying.
    -Most you deal with probably have strong English skills

    Spanish
    +Very large language reach
    -As with others, probably already speak solid English.

    German
    +Major language, strong economy
    -Most speak English and prefer it when talking to English speakers and sometimes even speak it to eachother.
    -Probably think you have some Nazi fetish just for learning it.

    I think that covers the ones most mentioned here. In general, you're probably only dealing with people that already speak solid English, which would narrow it down to the ones that will most quickly shift their opinion of you for trying to speak their language.

    If you do learn a language, you should do it because it's fun though. Any other reason and don't waste your time. If it's not fun for you, stop.
    True...

    But using that criteria I would still keep Spanish ahead of the French though, as their aversion to English is close to the same, and Spanish is far more used worldwide.

    But if the goal is to help at the job, TheDevilsBigToe can always just try to find out what language does the bulk of his company's clients speak (other than English) and pick that.

    It may have clients on over 190 countries, but surelly wont have the same number of clients everywere.

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    TheDevilsBigToe [2204723]

    Thought I'd ask the masses as opinions from around the world may help me here.

    I've recently changed jobs and work within a large international company. There will be occasions where I will be communicating with others from around the world. A lot of this will be via email so in itself it's not a barrier, but this got me thinking.

    My main language, and only other than a few basic words, is English.

    I'd like to learn a 2nd language. And I ask for your input as I can't simply base it on which languages I'm most likely to come into contact with, as they have customers in over 190 countries, so there's a good few to choose from.

    If you were to choose to learn a 2nd (or another) language with the main aim of it potentially coming into play with career progression, which language would you choose and, importantly, why? Which languages have you found to be most beneficial or widely used for yourself?

    Tia

    Beerstein [1322136]

    French.

    Best to consider which ones refuse to learn and are most strongly averse to speaking English. Just some opinions based on my experiences working with people around the world.

    French
    +A lot don't speak English
    +Those that can mostly seem to not want to.
    +Solid economy
    +Even trying to speak French instantly shifts a switch in their heads
    -None

    Russian
    +A lot don't speak English
    -Not generally a business lucrative country, especially the ones that don't speak/want to speak English

    Mandarin
    +Large economy big in business
    +Probably similar to French where they'll look at you in a much more positive light if you're even trying.
    -Most you deal with probably have strong English skills

    Spanish
    +Very large language reach
    -As with others, probably already speak solid English.

    German
    +Major language, strong economy
    -Most speak English and prefer it when talking to English speakers and sometimes even speak it to eachother.
    -Probably think you have some Nazi fetish just for learning it.

    I think that covers the ones most mentioned here. In general, you're probably only dealing with people that already speak solid English, which would narrow it down to the ones that will most quickly shift their opinion of you for trying to speak their language.

    If you do learn a language, you should do it because it's fun though. Any other reason and don't waste your time. If it's not fun for you, stop.

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    True...

    But using that criteria I would still keep Spanish ahead of the French though, as their aversion to English is close to the same, and Spanish is far more used worldwide.

    But if the goal is to help at the job, TheDevilsBigToe can always just try to find out what language does the bulk of his company's clients speak (other than English) and pick that.

    It may have clients on over 190 countries, but surelly wont have the same number of clients everywere.
    Really can't go wrong with the big 3 French, Spanish, and Mandarin.

    Can definitely go wrong with German xD

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    TheDevilsBigToe [2204723]

    Thought I'd ask the masses as opinions from around the world may help me here.

    I've recently changed jobs and work within a large international company. There will be occasions where I will be communicating with others from around the world. A lot of this will be via email so in itself it's not a barrier, but this got me thinking.

    My main language, and only other than a few basic words, is English.

    I'd like to learn a 2nd language. And I ask for your input as I can't simply base it on which languages I'm most likely to come into contact with, as they have customers in over 190 countries, so there's a good few to choose from.

    If you were to choose to learn a 2nd (or another) language with the main aim of it potentially coming into play with career progression, which language would you choose and, importantly, why? Which languages have you found to be most beneficial or widely used for yourself?

    Tia

    Beerstein [1322136]

    French.

    Best to consider which ones refuse to learn and are most strongly averse to speaking English. Just some opinions based on my experiences working with people around the world.

    French
    +A lot don't speak English
    +Those that can mostly seem to not want to.
    +Solid economy
    +Even trying to speak French instantly shifts a switch in their heads
    -None

    Russian
    +A lot don't speak English
    -Not generally a business lucrative country, especially the ones that don't speak/want to speak English

    Mandarin
    +Large economy big in business
    +Probably similar to French where they'll look at you in a much more positive light if you're even trying.
    -Most you deal with probably have strong English skills

    Spanish
    +Very large language reach
    -As with others, probably already speak solid English.

    German
    +Major language, strong economy
    -Most speak English and prefer it when talking to English speakers and sometimes even speak it to eachother.
    -Probably think you have some Nazi fetish just for learning it.

    I think that covers the ones most mentioned here. In general, you're probably only dealing with people that already speak solid English, which would narrow it down to the ones that will most quickly shift their opinion of you for trying to speak their language.

    If you do learn a language, you should do it because it's fun though. Any other reason and don't waste your time. If it's not fun for you, stop.

    A_Mean_Person [1631303]

    True...

    But using that criteria I would still keep Spanish ahead of the French though, as their aversion to English is close to the same, and Spanish is far more used worldwide.

    But if the goal is to help at the job, TheDevilsBigToe can always just try to find out what language does the bulk of his company's clients speak (other than English) and pick that.

    It may have clients on over 190 countries, but surelly wont have the same number of clients everywere.

    Beerstein [1322136]

    Really can't go wrong with the big 3 French, Spanish, and Mandarin.

    Can definitely go wrong with German xD
    German is like Portuguese, most people that speak it often can comunicate in English quite well. 

    Not to mention that both French and Spanish are way easier to learn than those two. (Brasilian version of Portuguese is not that hard either, but the European one is a bit more complicated (but then again probably less usefull)).



    Mandarin is a lot harder to learn than most languages for an native English speaker though.

    Personally i wouldn't put myself through that challenge if i wasn't sure i would regularly use it... Not sure how much of it will stick if you dont.

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    Asl or German

    Asl because I've always found it fascinating
    German because my heritage
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    Mandalorian

    of course it depends on your career. Mandalorian is pretty solid if you want to go into interstellar history.


    Otherwise I’d go with Mandarin, Bahasa, Spanish (in that order) due to the financial powerhouses that south east Asia will be dominating with in the next 20-30 years.

    in fact you might as well give up speaking English..
    Are you referring to bahasa Melayu or bahasa Indonesia?
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    Posted on 08:04:21 - 08/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Mandarin.

    I already speak English, so if I added Mandarin to my toolkit, I could speak to 1 in 3 people on the planet.
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    Posted on 08:22:23 - 08/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    French, Spanish, Mandarin.
    Most of the population speaks those languages.
    Spanish and Mandarin are also the base for a dozen of other languages.

    I put French first because for some reason, they REALLY REALLY like it when someone speaks their language.
    I have been to Paris once, and you have no idea how fast their demeanor changes when they realize you speak even a little French.
    I can already imagine how much of a big plus this is in business.

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    TheDevilsBigToe [2204723]

    Thought I'd ask the masses as opinions from around the world may help me here.

    I've recently changed jobs and work within a large international company. There will be occasions where I will be communicating with others from around the world. A lot of this will be via email so in itself it's not a barrier, but this got me thinking.

    My main language, and only other than a few basic words, is English.

    I'd like to learn a 2nd language. And I ask for your input as I can't simply base it on which languages I'm most likely to come into contact with, as they have customers in over 190 countries, so there's a good few to choose from.

    If you were to choose to learn a 2nd (or another) language with the main aim of it potentially coming into play with career progression, which language would you choose and, importantly, why? Which languages have you found to be most beneficial or widely used for yourself?

    Tia
    First and foremost, I think it's bad practice if you're choosing to learn another language because of the work you do - tomorrow you might not work at that company but local startup that does business only with your local county. Exaggerating a bit but my point is that you should learn a language because you want to - and yes of course it can help you at work too, but only as an added bonus :)

    That said, if you really want to help your job, then do some statistics on those 190 countries, where is majority of your customers from? Surely you don't have 1 customer per 1 country.

    In general, as so many told you before, learning Mandarin is imperative. Do not get left behind jumping on the future superpower :)

    If you want to cover the whole continent: learn Spanish (Middle and South America) or French (half of Africa).

    German, because they're Europe's biggest power.

    English is only my third language but if I would have to learn any new language, I'd choose one of those four mentioned above (I know some German tho).
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