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    Thread created on 22:31:39 - 24/06/24 (10 months ago)
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    Part of the problem with a lot of western US vegetarian entrees is that the entrees are originally meant to be with real meat, and the real meat is either just removed or replaced with fake meat (whether impossible or tofu or whatever).

     

    It basically means that most US vegetarian entrees are either less than versions of original entrees or pale imitations of original entrees. I don't mind having vegetables or a dish that doesn't use animal byproducts, but I'm not the biggest fan of having my meat subbed out with pale imitations. 

     

    In my opinion, it's one of the biggest mistakes of US vegetarian chefs....rather than create something new and establish their own space, they tend to just play it safe and create variations of existing recipes that originally used meat.

     

    I like South Asian vegetarian entrees, probably because I don't have a preconceived notion that certain entrees should be with meat.



    Thus, here's the request. Sell me on a vegetarian dish that isn't South Asian inspired and doesn't substitute fake meat/animal byproducts (aka impossible or tofu) on an entree that traditionally uses meat.

     

     

    EDIT: The reason why I would prefer non South Asian is to make it easier for me to find the spices/ingredients in my local market, rather than have to scour specialty markets.

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    Posted on 22:47:38 - 24/06/24 (10 months ago)
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    I think tofu should be allowed as it's not really a 'fake meat'/meat substitute.

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    Posted on 23:46:37 - 24/06/24 (10 months ago)
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    I think tofu should be allowed as it's not really a 'fake meat'/meat substitute.

    Depending on the entree in question, tofu is absolutely used as a meat substitute.

    For example: a tofu burger is replacing the beef patty of a burger with a tofu patty instead.

     

    However, you are correct in that there are tofu entrees where tofu isn't a substitute for meat/animal byproducts.

     

    I editted the OP to be more specific.

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    Posted on 20:00:46 - 28/06/24 (9 months ago)
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    You said not south Asian and you said vegetarian.  I feel like there are a lot of good fried rices that don't have any meat in them that use egg as the major source of umami.  There are some amazing mushroom soups.  Miso I feel like can add a lot of good umami to soups even if it isn't an asian inspired soup.  Butter any dish with butter in it.  Lots of pastas with mushroom and cream.  

     

    What sort of dish are you looking for anything in particular?

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    Posted on 21:23:43 - 04/07/24 (9 months ago)
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    Bean and cheese burritos, bean tacos, pizza, pasta, salad, vegetable soup, pastries, breads (garlic bread), fries, sweet potato fries, grilled cheese sandwiches, guacamole with corn chips

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    Posted on 00:00:52 - 19/07/24 (9 months ago)
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    South east asian count? Indonesians have lots of vegetarian recipes 

     

    1. Gado-gado. Remove the eggs if you want

    800px-Gado_gado_jakarta.jpg

     

    Mushroom satay

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    For satay you can try 3 recipes. With peanut sauce, taichan (spicy), or just sweet soy sauce. 

     

    3. Orek tempe

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    4. Sambal tumpang (from tempe)

    Resep_Sambal_Tumpang_Kediri.jpg

    You eat it with porridge.

     

    5. My all time favorite, Fried mushroom

     

    B300518-Cover-Cara-Membuat-Jamur-Crispy-dengan-Tepung-Sajiku.jpg

     

    We don't pretend our vegies recipe as meat. Most of us grew up poor. Hence some of us aren't familiar with eating meat.

     

    Heck we even tweak our rice to have different flavors, that way we don't need to eat meat:

     

    1. Nasi daun jeruk (lime leaf rice). Very savory and refreshing aroma. My boyfriend favorite. 

    nasi-daun-jeruk-simple-foto-resep-utama.jpg

     

    2. Nasi liwet. There are few traditional recipes for this rice but my favorite are surakarta (with coconut milk) and sundanese (with margarine. Light n so good)

    Surakarta:

    nasi-liwet-yu-sani-yang-gurih-mlekoh-ada-di-solo-sejak-33-tahun-lalu-3_43.jpeg?w=600&q=90

     

    Sundanese:

    086970000_1624457806-NASI_LIWET.jpg

    3. Nasi hainam (chinese. But replace chicken stock with coconut milk)

    4. Nasi bakar (with oncom / fermented soy beans. So so so good).

     

    Ps: I made 3 type of rice for community events. Too bad the judges only know baking n western food. The cooking skill? Not so much a factor lol. 

     

    And ps2: yes I can cook all the food I posted abbove. I can assure you, you will not be disappointed of you cook them

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    Posted on 00:57:15 - 19/07/24 (9 months ago)
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    DedeSiregar [2430598]

    South east asian count? Indonesians have lots of vegetarian recipes 

     

    1. Gado-gado. Remove the eggs if you want

    800px-Gado_gado_jakarta.jpg

     

    Mushroom satay

    1362376264.jpg

     

    For satay you can try 3 recipes. With peanut sauce, taichan (spicy), or just sweet soy sauce. 

     

    3. Orek tempe

    5f38219abbc58.jpg

     

    4. Sambal tumpang (from tempe)

    Resep_Sambal_Tumpang_Kediri.jpg

    You eat it with porridge.

     

    5. My all time favorite, Fried mushroom

     

    B300518-Cover-Cara-Membuat-Jamur-Crispy-dengan-Tepung-Sajiku.jpg

     

    We don't pretend our vegies recipe as meat. Most of us grew up poor. Hence some of us aren't familiar with eating meat.

     

    Heck we even tweak our rice to have different flavors, that way we don't need to eat meat:

     

    1. Nasi daun jeruk (lime leaf rice). Very savory and refreshing aroma. My boyfriend favorite. 

    nasi-daun-jeruk-simple-foto-resep-utama.jpg

     

    2. Nasi liwet. There are few traditional recipes for this rice but my favorite are surakarta (with coconut milk) and sundanese (with margarine. Light n so good)

    Surakarta:

    nasi-liwet-yu-sani-yang-gurih-mlekoh-ada-di-solo-sejak-33-tahun-lalu-3_43.jpeg?w=600&q=90

     

    Sundanese:

    086970000_1624457806-NASI_LIWET.jpg

    3. Nasi hainam (chinese. But replace chicken stock with coconut milk)

    4. Nasi bakar (with oncom / fermented soy beans. So so so good).

     

    Ps: I made 3 type of rice for community events. Too bad the judges only know baking n western food. The cooking skill? Not so much a factor lol. 

     

    And ps2: yes I can cook all the food I posted abbove. I can assure you, you will not be disappointed of you cook them

    This food looks really good, I wanna try making some.

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    Posted on 03:49:35 - 19/07/24 (9 months ago)
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    DedeSiregar [2430598]

    South east asian count? Indonesians have lots of vegetarian recipes 

     

    1. Gado-gado. Remove the eggs if you want

    800px-Gado_gado_jakarta.jpg

     

    Mushroom satay

    1362376264.jpg

     

    For satay you can try 3 recipes. With peanut sauce, taichan (spicy), or just sweet soy sauce. 

     

    3. Orek tempe

    5f38219abbc58.jpg

     

    4. Sambal tumpang (from tempe)

    Resep_Sambal_Tumpang_Kediri.jpg

    You eat it with porridge.

     

    5. My all time favorite, Fried mushroom

     

    B300518-Cover-Cara-Membuat-Jamur-Crispy-dengan-Tepung-Sajiku.jpg

     

    We don't pretend our vegies recipe as meat. Most of us grew up poor. Hence some of us aren't familiar with eating meat.

     

    Heck we even tweak our rice to have different flavors, that way we don't need to eat meat:

     

    1. Nasi daun jeruk (lime leaf rice). Very savory and refreshing aroma. My boyfriend favorite. 

    nasi-daun-jeruk-simple-foto-resep-utama.jpg

     

    2. Nasi liwet. There are few traditional recipes for this rice but my favorite are surakarta (with coconut milk) and sundanese (with margarine. Light n so good)

    Surakarta:

    nasi-liwet-yu-sani-yang-gurih-mlekoh-ada-di-solo-sejak-33-tahun-lalu-3_43.jpeg?w=600&q=90

     

    Sundanese:

    086970000_1624457806-NASI_LIWET.jpg

    3. Nasi hainam (chinese. But replace chicken stock with coconut milk)

    4. Nasi bakar (with oncom / fermented soy beans. So so so good).

     

    Ps: I made 3 type of rice for community events. Too bad the judges only know baking n western food. The cooking skill? Not so much a factor lol. 

     

    And ps2: yes I can cook all the food I posted abbove. I can assure you, you will not be disappointed of you cook them

    Thanks for the recommendations!

     

    I'm more interested in dishes that never used animal protein, rather than subbing out the animal protein for something else, but these all look amazing!

     

    Hope my crappy cooking skills are capable of making these things!

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    Posted on 16:42:51 - 19/07/24 (9 months ago)
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    I know exactly what you're talking about.  I abhor fake meat (suspended proteins is one of my aversions).

     

    I do agree Asian food in general is more amenable to vegetarian options, not necessarily because of lack of familiarity, but because there were more veg recipes to start... I would say that Western food is catching up, but that would discount a lot of the vegetarian options that DO exist but that are ignored because they're not "main course" dishes.

     

    What even constitutes a main dish??? A lot of the things considered main dishes in other cuisines is just soup or sandwiches by another name - but these are specifically excluded from being considered "main course" dishes in Western culture.  So, change it up. Make soup the main course.  There's no rules.

     

    And now I really want roasted squash for some reason 😒 Wrong season for it tho.

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    Posted on 09:27:17 - 22/07/24 (9 months ago)
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    The thing I struggle with (as a midde aged person that lifts, so need plenty of protein but not so many calories anymore) is that it's hard to make dishes without dairy or animal protein that fits my needs. There aren't really any plant sources high in protein that fits this unless you make them highly processed, tofu is really the only one. Anyone got any tips that fits this?

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    Posted on 15:12:06 - 22/07/24 (9 months ago)
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    Jaxtra [2658631]

    The thing I struggle with (as a midde aged person that lifts, so need plenty of protein but not so many calories anymore) is that it's hard to make dishes without dairy or animal protein that fits my needs. There aren't really any plant sources high in protein that fits this unless you make them highly processed, tofu is really the only one. Anyone got any tips that fits this?

    If you aren't vegetarian, eat egg whites. Just remove the yolk from the egg then steam or boil it. It will look like tofu but taste less sour. You can use dozens of recipes with it. And it only has 17 calories per-egg.

     

    If you are vegetarian eat tempe than tofu. It has twice protein than tofu. You can google it. But it has 193 calories tho. 

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    Posted on 16:30:34 - 22/07/24 (9 months ago)
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    I recently made this recipe for Chickpea Paprikash for the first time, it was easy and delicious. I'm not vegan so I used real dairy products but it's not necessary. Chickpeas are a good source of fiber and protein! 

     

    https://munchmealsbyjanet.com/2022/08/26/chickpea-paprikash/#recipe

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    Posted on 22:16:35 - 18/08/24 (8 months ago)
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    French onion grilled cheese

    https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1020107-french-onion-grilled-cheese

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    Posted on 01:51:34 - 05/09/24 (7 months ago)
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    I think a good vegetarian dish could be like pasta with a good tomato and basil sauce along with cooked sliced button mushrooms. The pasta can be made simply with just water and all purpose flour instead of eggs and if you want it to be more protein leaning I thinking finding a chickpea pasta would be good too.

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    Posted on 03:23:49 - 22/11/24 (5 months ago)
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    So, in a related topic, when I was in Japan, I gambled on a Sri Lankan vegetarian curry ekibento, and wasn't displeased with it.

     

    My spouse was shocked that I chose to go with a vegetarian ekiben.

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    Posted on 02:51:02 - 06/12/24 (4 months ago)
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    Accidentally vegetarian according to people but uses milk. Been fond of making my own mushroom soup lately. Sauteing mushrooms with garlic. Putting in cream. Putting in your stock of choice (I'm usually strapped for time so i go for chicken broth cubes usually but that's not vegan so..). Put in cheese if you want. Put in tofu/spinach. Voila mushroom soup.

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    Posted on 05:52:39 - 17/12/24 (4 months ago)
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    I make this delicious sandwich in a toasted pita. The main component is a portabella mushroom (gills and stem removed) marinated in balsamic vinegar and olive oil, then seasoned w/ s&p and roasted until cooked through and tender. In the pita put the mushroom, feta cheese, roasted red pepper, avocado, lettuce, and tomato. Finish with a balsamic drizzle and two other sauces- a cilantro pesto, and a lemony yogurt sauce. Soooo good!

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    Posted on 17:31:12 - 04/01/25 (3 months ago)
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    As a strick omnivore, I can't pass up mushrooms. Local farmers marker has chef mix at $22 per lb. Mushroom risotto last week. Making cream of wild mushroom soup today. 

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    Posted on 17:52:45 - 04/01/25 (3 months ago)
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    Homous and falafel  pretty easy better if you do some prep tho not expensive .

     

     All veg and tastes better if you have some pickles or pickled turnips on hand. I usually throw meat on the homous  with it but not really necessary. 

     

     

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    Posted on 14:54:27 - 28/01/25 (2 months ago)
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    Try chickpea coconut curry, it's not trying to be meat, it's just chickpea cooked with coconut milk, you add all the things you would add to your normal curry, it's delicious!

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