Penetration [2340613]

Satan is part of the religious structure - the fear part to keep people chained. Worshipping Satan is just as ludicrous as worshipping the Pope or biblical figures. In fact, from a "free mind" perspective, there is no difference at all.

Why are people so obsessed with a personified god?

The answer is we want to validate our own self worth, which we need to do to justify continuing our meager existence. Yes, we personify god for validation. Then other people use that need for validation as a means of control.

I believe in god but not a diety. The earth is a miracle. Life is proof of a conscious universe. Math is the word of god. Existence > no-existence... and how did anything come to be? How can a universe manifest when there is no material, no consciousness, no minds, no rules or structure?

TL;DR Proof of god is all around us, in us, and in the very concept of existence. It is not a dude who wears robes, a guy who sets rules to live by, or a creep with a pickfork waiting to **** you for eternity.

Satanisaaron [2635479]

I most definitely don't worship Satan Lucifer or any other God head I use the rhetoric of Satanism to get the more pressing point across that being that we are kept blind and ignorant of many things that if the light was shown on the public would be shocked to say the least also I wish that more people would except that we are all walking gods who are when you boil it down in control of our own decisions and there for in control of our reality. This is the point the language I use is for color and to stir up emotions

Penetration [2340613]

Satan is part of the religious structure - the fear part to keep people chained. Worshipping Satan is just as ludicrous as worshipping the Pope or biblical figures. In fact, from a "free mind" perspective, there is no difference at all.

Why are people so obsessed with a personified god?

The answer is we want to validate our own self worth, which we need to do to justify continuing our meager existence. Yes, we personify god for validation. Then other people use that need for validation as a means of control.

I believe in god but not a diety. The earth is a miracle. Life is proof of a conscious universe. Math is the word of god. Existence > no-existence... and how did anything come to be? How can a universe manifest when there is no material, no consciousness, no minds, no rules or structure?

TL;DR Proof of god is all around us, in us, and in the very concept of existence. It is not a dude who wears robes, a guy who sets rules to live by, or a creep with a pickfork waiting to **** you for eternity.

Satanisaaron [2635479]

I most definitely don't worship Satan Lucifer or any other God head I use the rhetoric of Satanism to get the more pressing point across that being that we are kept blind and ignorant of many things that if the light was shown on the public would be shocked to say the least also I wish that more people would except that we are all walking gods who are when you boil it down in control of our own decisions and there for in control of our reality. This is the point the language I use is for color and to stir up emotions

Skellington [2671472]

Yes, you are in control of your own decisions but many of the choices you can choose from are limited due to the decisions other people make. So you're actually only partially in control. I'm not sure why you think that specifically using the rhetoric of Satanism will help making people aware of this, perhaps you can elaborate some more? Also, for what it's worth, neither Satan nor Lucifer, who are in fact one and the same, is considered a God.

Edit: typo

Penetration [2340613]

Satan is part of the religious structure - the fear part to keep people chained. Worshipping Satan is just as ludicrous as worshipping the Pope or biblical figures. In fact, from a "free mind" perspective, there is no difference at all.

Why are people so obsessed with a personified god?

The answer is we want to validate our own self worth, which we need to do to justify continuing our meager existence. Yes, we personify god for validation. Then other people use that need for validation as a means of control.

I believe in god but not a diety. The earth is a miracle. Life is proof of a conscious universe. Math is the word of god. Existence > no-existence... and how did anything come to be? How can a universe manifest when there is no material, no consciousness, no minds, no rules or structure?

TL;DR Proof of god is all around us, in us, and in the very concept of existence. It is not a dude who wears robes, a guy who sets rules to live by, or a creep with a pickfork waiting to **** you for eternity.

Satanisaaron [2635479]

I most definitely don't worship Satan Lucifer or any other God head I use the rhetoric of Satanism to get the more pressing point across that being that we are kept blind and ignorant of many things that if the light was shown on the public would be shocked to say the least also I wish that more people would except that we are all walking gods who are when you boil it down in control of our own decisions and there for in control of our reality. This is the point the language I use is for color and to stir up emotions

Penetration [2340613]

Most people prefer to be lead. This is prevalent in nature. For every group there is one alpha.

Even dogs prefer when theit owner is the alpha. It's less stressful for the dog.

What I'm saying is, people generally want to be told what to do, believe what their told, and accept ignorance is bliss. They just don't want to admit it because that in itself is taking responsibility, the very thing they are conceding, as well as a sign of weakness in society despite being so prevalent.

I too would prefer if humans generally took responsibility for their own lives, thoughts and actions, but the sad truth is most people will give up all of that for bread and theater.

Satanisaaron [2635479]

You know when I stepped on to the path of the left hand I was told by the divinity that watch over me and guide and teach me that I was to spread the word, and to this day so long as I keep up with my own personal quest and do as directed my life runs as smooth as possible. That said when ever I become complacent in my duties and stop teaching the joys of sin and guiding others into the light of Hell , this is when shit becomes hard and testing ! Why is this I asked in meditation the other night and I was personally surprised how quick and clear the answer came onto me . "It is because all have a duty to give back to the light bringer when he shines his light on you" the eather screamed at me and I was thrown out of my meditive state with this locked firm in my mind. I began to wonder if I was the only one to have this type message given to me so I began reading through my grimores and texts I habe not just on magic and Satanism but on all religions and after hours of reading I began to see that this is something that is a common thread throughout all religions. The idea of giving back as much as you get. Now I know that when Lucifer took me into the fold and shined the light of wisdom on me freeing my mind from the chains that Christianity has locked all American culture with and broke the bondage that the government was holding me in show me the joy of freedom to do as I will , well that moment in time was so profound that I still have a hard time explaining the fillings that this gave me and I fill like the only ones that would understand are those brothers and sisters that also are on a path left me my own . You might be asking what has this to do with me and mine ? Who really cares what you were told? Well no one should strive to copy the Work of.any one else when it comes to our own paths we walk , and the answer is not some simple explanation. The best I can put it is if when someone who reads this has thoughts that begin to give that person insight into their own minds and start to find a way to get from under the yolk of the Pope and the one world government that has so much power over the every day people of the free world , then I am doing what has been asked of me. When somebody who has heard me decides to find their will for the.first time and act in acorrdance with it , then I have give back to Lucifer the energy that is but into me every day ! Now to wrap this up everyday we should all strive to become the gods we were.created to be ! Use you power to manifest and manipulate to create and do this for yourself and your gain! The only law is do your will ; your will is love ! Prepare yourself with meditation and chanting for the time draws near ! AVA SATANIA!

Penetration [2340613]

Satan is part of the religious structure - the fear part to keep people chained. Worshipping Satan is just as ludicrous as worshipping the Pope or biblical figures. In fact, from a "free mind" perspective, there is no difference at all.

Why are people so obsessed with a personified god?

The answer is we want to validate our own self worth, which we need to do to justify continuing our meager existence. Yes, we personify god for validation. Then other people use that need for validation as a means of control.

I believe in god but not a diety. The earth is a miracle. Life is proof of a conscious universe. Math is the word of god. Existence > no-existence... and how did anything come to be? How can a universe manifest when there is no material, no consciousness, no minds, no rules or structure?

TL;DR Proof of god is all around us, in us, and in the very concept of existence. It is not a dude who wears robes, a guy who sets rules to live by, or a creep with a pickfork waiting to **** you for eternity.

Satanisaaron [2635479]

I most definitely don't worship Satan Lucifer or any other God head I use the rhetoric of Satanism to get the more pressing point across that being that we are kept blind and ignorant of many things that if the light was shown on the public would be shocked to say the least also I wish that more people would except that we are all walking gods who are when you boil it down in control of our own decisions and there for in control of our reality. This is the point the language I use is for color and to stir up emotions

Skellington [2671472]

Yes, you are in control of your own decisions but many of the choices you can choose from are limited due to the decisions other people make. So you're actually only partially in control. I'm not sure why you think that specifically using the rhetoric of Satanism will help making people aware of this, perhaps you can elaborate some more? Also, for what it's worth, neither Satan nor Lucifer, who are in fact one and the same, is considered a God.

Edit: typo

Satanisaaron [2635479]

Well ok you have made a few valid points such as there my be no need to use Satanism to get the point across but on the other hand it does seem to get more attention than other things that I have experience with. You are also wrong in calling Lucifer and Satan the same and saying they are not gods is also false. The god of the morning star aka Lucifer has appeared in writing as far back as roman works of the B.C.E and that of course means before Jesus. Lucifer In Greek and Roman mythology is the son of Hecate and eaither Helios or himself I'm not sure witch one it is and if you want to be sure you can Google it. As far as Satan he has just as much energy poured in to him being a god as does some guy with a fluffy Beard that sits on a cloud and spites gays for the hell of it . Mabey I'll talk to this subject in the next few days

Satanisaaron [2635479]

You know when I stepped on to the path of the left hand I was told by the divinity that watch over me and guide and teach me that I was to spread the word, and to this day so long as I keep up with my own personal quest and do as directed my life runs as smooth as possible. That said when ever I become complacent in my duties and stop teaching the joys of sin and guiding others into the light of Hell , this is when shit becomes hard and testing ! Why is this I asked in meditation the other night and I was personally surprised how quick and clear the answer came onto me . "It is because all have a duty to give back to the light bringer when he shines his light on you" the eather screamed at me and I was thrown out of my meditive state with this locked firm in my mind. I began to wonder if I was the only one to have this type message given to me so I began reading through my grimores and texts I habe not just on magic and Satanism but on all religions and after hours of reading I began to see that this is something that is a common thread throughout all religions. The idea of giving back as much as you get. Now I know that when Lucifer took me into the fold and shined the light of wisdom on me freeing my mind from the chains that Christianity has locked all American culture with and broke the bondage that the government was holding me in show me the joy of freedom to do as I will , well that moment in time was so profound that I still have a hard time explaining the fillings that this gave me and I fill like the only ones that would understand are those brothers and sisters that also are on a path left me my own . You might be asking what has this to do with me and mine ? Who really cares what you were told? Well no one should strive to copy the Work of.any one else when it comes to our own paths we walk , and the answer is not some simple explanation. The best I can put it is if when someone who reads this has thoughts that begin to give that person insight into their own minds and start to find a way to get from under the yolk of the Pope and the one world government that has so much power over the every day people of the free world , then I am doing what has been asked of me. When somebody who has heard me decides to find their will for the.first time and act in acorrdance with it , then I have give back to Lucifer the energy that is but into me every day ! Now to wrap this up everyday we should all strive to become the gods we were.created to be ! Use you power to manifest and manipulate to create and do this for yourself and your gain! The only law is do your will ; your will is love ! Prepare yourself with meditation and chanting for the time draws near ! AVA SATANIA!

Alphak1ng [2557704]

What if Hell's on earth? What if being born is dying, and dying's birth? Would that not mean that life is not Gods gift, but the Devil's curse?

Penetration [2340613]

Satan is part of the religious structure - the fear part to keep people chained. Worshipping Satan is just as ludicrous as worshipping the Pope or biblical figures. In fact, from a "free mind" perspective, there is no difference at all.

Why are people so obsessed with a personified god?

The answer is we want to validate our own self worth, which we need to do to justify continuing our meager existence. Yes, we personify god for validation. Then other people use that need for validation as a means of control.

I believe in god but not a diety. The earth is a miracle. Life is proof of a conscious universe. Math is the word of god. Existence > no-existence... and how did anything come to be? How can a universe manifest when there is no material, no consciousness, no minds, no rules or structure?

TL;DR Proof of god is all around us, in us, and in the very concept of existence. It is not a dude who wears robes, a guy who sets rules to live by, or a creep with a pickfork waiting to **** you for eternity.

Satanisaaron [2635479]

I most definitely don't worship Satan Lucifer or any other God head I use the rhetoric of Satanism to get the more pressing point across that being that we are kept blind and ignorant of many things that if the light was shown on the public would be shocked to say the least also I wish that more people would except that we are all walking gods who are when you boil it down in control of our own decisions and there for in control of our reality. This is the point the language I use is for color and to stir up emotions

Skellington [2671472]

Yes, you are in control of your own decisions but many of the choices you can choose from are limited due to the decisions other people make. So you're actually only partially in control. I'm not sure why you think that specifically using the rhetoric of Satanism will help making people aware of this, perhaps you can elaborate some more? Also, for what it's worth, neither Satan nor Lucifer, who are in fact one and the same, is considered a God.

Edit: typo

Satanisaaron [2635479]

Well ok you have made a few valid points such as there my be no need to use Satanism to get the point across but on the other hand it does seem to get more attention than other things that I have experience with. You are also wrong in calling Lucifer and Satan the same and saying they are not gods is also false. The god of the morning star aka Lucifer has appeared in writing as far back as roman works of the B.C.E and that of course means before Jesus. Lucifer In Greek and Roman mythology is the son of Hecate and eaither Helios or himself I'm not sure witch one it is and if you want to be sure you can Google it. As far as Satan he has just as much energy poured in to him being a god as does some guy with a fluffy Beard that sits on a cloud and spites gays for the hell of it . Mabey I'll talk to this subject in the next few days

Skellington [2671472]

I am well aware of the fact Lucifer is said to be the son of Aurora and Cephalus in Roman folklore, but considering your opening text that is irrelevant here. You're talking about Satanism, directly related to Christianity, so that is what my reply was about, not about Roman folklore. So, from a Christian point of view Lucifer and Satan most certainly are one and the same, although Satan is never called Lucifer in the Bible. The fusion of the two as one and the same is much more recent. The term Lucifer is in the original bible solely used as a reference to the morningstar or dawn.

Your claim that talks of Lucifer predate Jesus are accurate, but the birth of Jesus is nowhere near the start of Christianity. Christianity, or at least the roots thereof, dates from before the Roman Empire. Hence talks of Lucifer and Satan are older than that as well.

As far as your claim 'Satan having just as much energy poured in to him being a god as does some guy with a fluffy Beard that sits on a cloud and spites gays for the hell of it' goes, even I, who is not at all in favor of any religion as it now sits, am not going to try to comment on that, as it is so filled with biased assumptions you could drown in them.

Penetration [2340613]

Satan is part of the religious structure - the fear part to keep people chained. Worshipping Satan is just as ludicrous as worshipping the Pope or biblical figures. In fact, from a "free mind" perspective, there is no difference at all.

Why are people so obsessed with a personified god?

The answer is we want to validate our own self worth, which we need to do to justify continuing our meager existence. Yes, we personify god for validation. Then other people use that need for validation as a means of control.

I believe in god but not a diety. The earth is a miracle. Life is proof of a conscious universe. Math is the word of god. Existence > no-existence... and how did anything come to be? How can a universe manifest when there is no material, no consciousness, no minds, no rules or structure?

TL;DR Proof of god is all around us, in us, and in the very concept of existence. It is not a dude who wears robes, a guy who sets rules to live by, or a creep with a pickfork waiting to **** you for eternity.

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Satanisaaron [2635479]

I most definitely don't worship Satan Lucifer or any other God head I use the rhetoric of Satanism to get the more pressing point across that being that we are kept blind and ignorant of many things that if the light was shown on the public would be shocked to say the least also I wish that more people would except that we are all walking gods who are when you boil it down in control of our own decisions and there for in control of our reality. This is the point the language I use is for color and to stir up emotions

Skellington [2671472]

Yes, you are in control of your own decisions but many of the choices you can choose from are limited due to the decisions other people make. So you're actually only partially in control. I'm not sure why you think that specifically using the rhetoric of Satanism will help making people aware of this, perhaps you can elaborate some more? Also, for what it's worth, neither Satan nor Lucifer, who are in fact one and the same, is considered a God.

Edit: typo

Satanisaaron [2635479]

Well ok you have made a few valid points such as there my be no need to use Satanism to get the point across but on the other hand it does seem to get more attention than other things that I have experience with. You are also wrong in calling Lucifer and Satan the same and saying they are not gods is also false. The god of the morning star aka Lucifer has appeared in writing as far back as roman works of the B.C.E and that of course means before Jesus. Lucifer In Greek and Roman mythology is the son of Hecate and eaither Helios or himself I'm not sure witch one it is and if you want to be sure you can Google it. As far as Satan he has just as much energy poured in to him being a god as does some guy with a fluffy Beard that sits on a cloud and spites gays for the hell of it . Mabey I'll talk to this subject in the next few days

Skellington [2671472]

I am well aware of the fact Lucifer is said to be the son of Aurora and Cephalus in Roman folklore, but considering your opening text that is irrelevant here. You're talking about Satanism, directly related to Christianity, so that is what my reply was about, not about Roman folklore. So, from a Christian point of view Lucifer and Satan most certainly are one and the same, although Satan is never called Lucifer in the Bible. The fusion of the two as one and the same is much more recent. The term Lucifer is in the original bible solely used as a reference to the morningstar or dawn.

Your claim that talks of Lucifer predate Jesus are accurate, but the birth of Jesus is nowhere near the start of Christianity. Christianity, or at least the roots thereof, dates from before the Roman Empire. Hence talks of Lucifer and Satan are older than that as well.

As far as your claim 'Satan having just as much energy poured in to him being a god as does some guy with a fluffy Beard that sits on a cloud and spites gays for the hell of it' goes, even I, who is not at all in favor of any religion as it now sits, am not going to try to comment on that, as it is so filled with biased assumptions you could drown in them.

Satanisaaron [2635479]

What I said was not meant to be biased, I am of the belief that when we as humans were made by whom ever it was that was responsible for that they gave us some of their DNA by doing so they also gave us some of their devine witch in turn gave humans the ability to create and for the most part we have all done so weather it's through manifestation or something else we have enough "god" in us to where if a group of humans over centuries or even decades worship and entity and pour their divine power into it they're going to exist on some plane. With that being said somewhere out there the red horned cloven hooved Satan exists just like the Evangelical God in a Togo with a white fluffy beard that likes to smite homosexuals and drug addicts exist.

Satanisaaron [2635479]

I most definitely don't worship Satan Lucifer or any other God head I use the rhetoric of Satanism to get the more pressing point across that being that we are kept blind and ignorant of many things that if the light was shown on the public would be shocked to say the least also I wish that more people would except that we are all walking gods who are when you boil it down in control of our own decisions and there for in control of our reality. This is the point the language I use is for color and to stir up emotions

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Skellington [2671472]

Yes, you are in control of your own decisions but many of the choices you can choose from are limited due to the decisions other people make. So you're actually only partially in control. I'm not sure why you think that specifically using the rhetoric of Satanism will help making people aware of this, perhaps you can elaborate some more? Also, for what it's worth, neither Satan nor Lucifer, who are in fact one and the same, is considered a God.

Edit: typo

Satanisaaron [2635479]

Well ok you have made a few valid points such as there my be no need to use Satanism to get the point across but on the other hand it does seem to get more attention than other things that I have experience with. You are also wrong in calling Lucifer and Satan the same and saying they are not gods is also false. The god of the morning star aka Lucifer has appeared in writing as far back as roman works of the B.C.E and that of course means before Jesus. Lucifer In Greek and Roman mythology is the son of Hecate and eaither Helios or himself I'm not sure witch one it is and if you want to be sure you can Google it. As far as Satan he has just as much energy poured in to him being a god as does some guy with a fluffy Beard that sits on a cloud and spites gays for the hell of it . Mabey I'll talk to this subject in the next few days

Skellington [2671472]

I am well aware of the fact Lucifer is said to be the son of Aurora and Cephalus in Roman folklore, but considering your opening text that is irrelevant here. You're talking about Satanism, directly related to Christianity, so that is what my reply was about, not about Roman folklore. So, from a Christian point of view Lucifer and Satan most certainly are one and the same, although Satan is never called Lucifer in the Bible. The fusion of the two as one and the same is much more recent. The term Lucifer is in the original bible solely used as a reference to the morningstar or dawn.

Your claim that talks of Lucifer predate Jesus are accurate, but the birth of Jesus is nowhere near the start of Christianity. Christianity, or at least the roots thereof, dates from before the Roman Empire. Hence talks of Lucifer and Satan are older than that as well.

As far as your claim 'Satan having just as much energy poured in to him being a god as does some guy with a fluffy Beard that sits on a cloud and spites gays for the hell of it' goes, even I, who is not at all in favor of any religion as it now sits, am not going to try to comment on that, as it is so filled with biased assumptions you could drown in them.

Satanisaaron [2635479]

What I said was not meant to be biased, I am of the belief that when we as humans were made by whom ever it was that was responsible for that they gave us some of their DNA by doing so they also gave us some of their devine witch in turn gave humans the ability to create and for the most part we have all done so weather it's through manifestation or something else we have enough "god" in us to where if a group of humans over centuries or even decades worship and entity and pour their divine power into it they're going to exist on some plane. With that being said somewhere out there the red horned cloven hooved Satan exists just like the Evangelical God in a Togo with a white fluffy beard that likes to smite homosexuals and drug addicts exist.

Skellington [2671472]

You are entitled to believe whatever you like, as long as you don't expect me to take your word for it. I prefer solid proof and until I've actually found that, all options are equally likely to me. I do however acknowledge that it's an interesting concept that we are capable of eventually creating the deity we believe in. It does make you wonder what the point is of deities in that case though.

Skellington [2671472]

Yes, you are in control of your own decisions but many of the choices you can choose from are limited due to the decisions other people make. So you're actually only partially in control. I'm not sure why you think that specifically using the rhetoric of Satanism will help making people aware of this, perhaps you can elaborate some more? Also, for what it's worth, neither Satan nor Lucifer, who are in fact one and the same, is considered a God.

Edit: typo

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Satanisaaron [2635479]

Well ok you have made a few valid points such as there my be no need to use Satanism to get the point across but on the other hand it does seem to get more attention than other things that I have experience with. You are also wrong in calling Lucifer and Satan the same and saying they are not gods is also false. The god of the morning star aka Lucifer has appeared in writing as far back as roman works of the B.C.E and that of course means before Jesus. Lucifer In Greek and Roman mythology is the son of Hecate and eaither Helios or himself I'm not sure witch one it is and if you want to be sure you can Google it. As far as Satan he has just as much energy poured in to him being a god as does some guy with a fluffy Beard that sits on a cloud and spites gays for the hell of it . Mabey I'll talk to this subject in the next few days

Skellington [2671472]

I am well aware of the fact Lucifer is said to be the son of Aurora and Cephalus in Roman folklore, but considering your opening text that is irrelevant here. You're talking about Satanism, directly related to Christianity, so that is what my reply was about, not about Roman folklore. So, from a Christian point of view Lucifer and Satan most certainly are one and the same, although Satan is never called Lucifer in the Bible. The fusion of the two as one and the same is much more recent. The term Lucifer is in the original bible solely used as a reference to the morningstar or dawn.

Your claim that talks of Lucifer predate Jesus are accurate, but the birth of Jesus is nowhere near the start of Christianity. Christianity, or at least the roots thereof, dates from before the Roman Empire. Hence talks of Lucifer and Satan are older than that as well.

As far as your claim 'Satan having just as much energy poured in to him being a god as does some guy with a fluffy Beard that sits on a cloud and spites gays for the hell of it' goes, even I, who is not at all in favor of any religion as it now sits, am not going to try to comment on that, as it is so filled with biased assumptions you could drown in them.

Satanisaaron [2635479]

What I said was not meant to be biased, I am of the belief that when we as humans were made by whom ever it was that was responsible for that they gave us some of their DNA by doing so they also gave us some of their devine witch in turn gave humans the ability to create and for the most part we have all done so weather it's through manifestation or something else we have enough "god" in us to where if a group of humans over centuries or even decades worship and entity and pour their divine power into it they're going to exist on some plane. With that being said somewhere out there the red horned cloven hooved Satan exists just like the Evangelical God in a Togo with a white fluffy beard that likes to smite homosexuals and drug addicts exist.

Skellington [2671472]

You are entitled to believe whatever you like, as long as you don't expect me to take your word for it. I prefer solid proof and until I've actually found that, all options are equally likely to me. I do however acknowledge that it's an interesting concept that we are capable of eventually creating the deity we believe in. It does make you wonder what the point is of deities in that case though.

Satanisaaron [2635479]

Well most religions are just another way to keep us in a box but a few. Do encourage people to use free will and keep an open mind but what do I know