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    Science says all matter is made of the same stuff. That energy is never created or destroyed, only transferred. We can't see the edge of space, and can't prove the origin of everything, and will not see the end of existence. We can imagine and even feel moments outside our time, but are eternally cursed to it's flow. In our minds anything is possible but in physical reality everything has limitations and boundaries. In all of endless space we can barely get off our world.. Our lives are filled with monotony and autonomy, only with spurts of conscious awareness between dreaming and day dreaming. Our entire existence is reminiscent of a video game with invisible walls keeping us in the level.

    All we know about the universe is our ideas. What we think iit is. What we think of it. We define it by what we think. The universe is just an idea we have, or a group of ideas. How tangible is it, that we can add nothing and take nothing from it in all time? How real is it, that it does not exist until our minds are connected?

    What if nothing is anything but an idea? Just a thought, not inside a program or a brain, and not floating through some aether. No god, no purpose, no justifiable creation or definable existence. A thought that wasn't and is and won't be, and we are part of that same thought? Not we at all but it, the only thing, a thought?
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    Posted on 01:56:34 - 12/02/22 (11 months ago)
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    its been ages since i've found good 'shrooms...jealous
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    its been ages since i've found good 'shrooms...jealous
    Haven't done mushrooms in ages either but our psychology is a fascinating phenomenon.
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    Posted on 02:30:03 - 12/02/22 (11 months ago)
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    It really is, actually. There is a kind of a revival of phenomenology in psychology thanks to some really interesting papers regarding the possibility we are living in a simulation...not that that was your point, but it falls into the same space of "are we the thinker, or the thought?"
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    Science says all matter is made of the same stuff. That energy is never created or destroyed, only transferred. We can't see the edge of space, and can't prove the origin of everything, and will not see the end of existence. We can imagine and even feel moments outside our time, but are eternally cursed to it's flow. In our minds anything is possible but in physical reality everything has limitations and boundaries. In all of endless space we can barely get off our world.. Our lives are filled with monotony and autonomy, only with spurts of conscious awareness between dreaming and day dreaming. Our entire existence is reminiscent of a video game with invisible walls keeping us in the level.

    All we know about the universe is our ideas. What we think iit is. What we think of it. We define it by what we think. The universe is just an idea we have, or a group of ideas. How tangible is it, that we can add nothing and take nothing from it in all time? How real is it, that it does not exist until our minds are connected?

    What if nothing is anything but an idea? Just a thought, not inside a program or a brain, and not floating through some aether. No god, no purpose, no justifiable creation or definable existence. A thought that wasn't and is and won't be, and we are part of that same thought? Not we at all but it, the only thing, a thought?
    What happens when absolutely no one sees a wall?? IS IT STILL THERE?

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    Science says all matter is made of the same stuff. That energy is never created or destroyed, only transferred. We can't see the edge of space, and can't prove the origin of everything, and will not see the end of existence. We can imagine and even feel moments outside our time, but are eternally cursed to it's flow. In our minds anything is possible but in physical reality everything has limitations and boundaries. In all of endless space we can barely get off our world.. Our lives are filled with monotony and autonomy, only with spurts of conscious awareness between dreaming and day dreaming. Our entire existence is reminiscent of a video game with invisible walls keeping us in the level.

    All we know about the universe is our ideas. What we think iit is. What we think of it. We define it by what we think. The universe is just an idea we have, or a group of ideas. How tangible is it, that we can add nothing and take nothing from it in all time? How real is it, that it does not exist until our minds are connected?

    What if nothing is anything but an idea? Just a thought, not inside a program or a brain, and not floating through some aether. No god, no purpose, no justifiable creation or definable existence. A thought that wasn't and is and won't be, and we are part of that same thought? Not we at all but it, the only thing, a thought?

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    What happens when absolutely no one sees a wall?? IS IT STILL THERE?
    I mean people see walls that aren't there all the time. 

    For example, people not being able to see a way out of debt, a way to help a relationship improve, a way to a better job. They imagine they can't do better and they don't. While others imagine they can do better and do.

    Did you realize we manifest creations into the universe? We imagine things in our minds that don't exist, then make them exist.

    For example: morals, religion, politics, social structures, art, and all technology that has ever come about.

    It's fascinating. We dream it, it becomes.

    Like, we got to space using rockets thanks to science fiction. We made metamaterials (invisibility cloaks) thanks to Harry Potter. Yes, we invented invisibility.

    I don't think there is a limit to what we can do inside the universe. If we dream it, we inevitably find a way to create it using something that has always been available but unseen in the universe.

    Almost as if everything is just imagined.
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    Posted on 06:29:18 - 12/02/22 (11 months ago)
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    Science says all matter is made of the same stuff. That energy is never created or destroyed, only transferred. We can't see the edge of space, and can't prove the origin of everything, and will not see the end of existence. We can imagine and even feel moments outside our time, but are eternally cursed to it's flow. In our minds anything is possible but in physical reality everything has limitations and boundaries. In all of endless space we can barely get off our world.. Our lives are filled with monotony and autonomy, only with spurts of conscious awareness between dreaming and day dreaming. Our entire existence is reminiscent of a video game with invisible walls keeping us in the level.

    All we know about the universe is our ideas. What we think iit is. What we think of it. We define it by what we think. The universe is just an idea we have, or a group of ideas. How tangible is it, that we can add nothing and take nothing from it in all time? How real is it, that it does not exist until our minds are connected?

    What if nothing is anything but an idea? Just a thought, not inside a program or a brain, and not floating through some aether. No god, no purpose, no justifiable creation or definable existence. A thought that wasn't and is and won't be, and we are part of that same thought? Not we at all but it, the only thing, a thought?

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    What happens when absolutely no one sees a wall?? IS IT STILL THERE?

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    I mean people see walls that aren't there all the time.

    For example, people not being able to see a way out of debt, a way to help a relationship improve, a way to a better job. They imagine they can't do better and they don't. While others imagine they can do better and do.

    Did you realize we manifest creations into the universe? We imagine things in our minds that don't exist, then make them exist.

    For example: morals, religion, politics, social structures, art, and all technology that has ever come about.

    It's fascinating. We dream it, it becomes.

    Like, we got to space using rockets thanks to science fiction. We made metamaterials (invisibility cloaks) thanks to Harry Potter. Yes, we invented invisibility.

    I don't think there is a limit to what we can do inside the universe. If we dream it, we inevitably find a way to create it using something that has always been available but unseen in the universe.

    Almost as if everything is just imagined.
    That’s why it tickles me every time someone says “that’s impossible” in regards to science. Unless you add “with current technology” it’s always wrong
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    Posted on 09:29:44 - 12/02/22 (11 months ago)
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    a idea, or a dream, perhaps dreams are the same as reality. everyones always thought of reality and what created us, but there doesnt need to be a creator, who created the people in your dreams? no one did, your dreams can feel hyper real, another reality in your head, are you the god creating a new universe that is your dream realm? perhaps we too are just a dream, did the dreamer create us? no, we just came to be, the dreamer doesnt know how he manifests his dreams or whether he does, it just is.

    and you had dreams in a dream in a dream and a endless cycle of trying to wake up but finding yourself in another dream, perhaps everything is a dream, there is no sleeping only phasing through different realities, our waking moments are still a dream but the dream we picked as our local home server/reality. the dreams in a dream trying to wake up finding yourself in other dreams is perhaps you losing your way and continuously waking up in other realities, but all in all the world we think is real is too just a dream. when we die we perhaps go back to cycling through different dream worlds and pick another as our home reality and we pick a body to be birthed into, which a body is just a anchor to set a selected dream world as your home dream/reality/home server.
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    Posted on 09:37:34 - 12/02/22 (11 months ago)
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    perhaps then, what dying is like is like finding yourself lost in a dream which you cannot awake from, you try to awake but all you do is wake up in another dream realm, stuck with the horror and panic of never being able to wake up/get back into your home dream server as you just lost your anchor to that home dream, which is your body, so you cannot wake back up into it. and so you find yourself trapped in the dream worlds with every attempt at waking up only working to transport yourself to another dream world..

    perhaps you wont know how to set a new body and anchor into a new dream for a while, perhaps that comes when you instead first linger in one dream for so long that it automatically does it for you and sets you in a new body in that dream after you stayed there for a certain amount of time as it thus determines if you stayed there then you like that one and want to be anchored there as your new home.

    ofcourse then why did we chose this earth as our home dream? perhaps because there is so many bad dreams you will cycle through that even this dream is better and more stable than other chaotic or horrific ones, so when you find even a lame bland ugly one like this, you stay here and stick with it for its better than most of the nightmare realities youd have risked cycling through and being stuck with.
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    Posted on 07:15:42 - 06/03/22 (10 months ago)
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    why think so much where the grass came from?
    just munch on it feel the breeze in the summer afternoon gazing affectionately your calves

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    why think so much where the grass came from?
    just munch on it feel the breeze in the summer afternoon gazing affectionately your calves
    You need to mix some tobacco in there... 

    I will never lie to you. What I say is how I feel...

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    Science says all matter is made of the same stuff. That energy is never created or destroyed, only transferred. We can't see the edge of space, and can't prove the origin of everything, and will not see the end of existence. We can imagine and even feel moments outside our time, but are eternally cursed to it's flow. In our minds anything is possible but in physical reality everything has limitations and boundaries. In all of endless space we can barely get off our world.. Our lives are filled with monotony and autonomy, only with spurts of conscious awareness between dreaming and day dreaming. Our entire existence is reminiscent of a video game with invisible walls keeping us in the level.

    All we know about the universe is our ideas. What we think iit is. What we think of it. We define it by what we think. The universe is just an idea we have, or a group of ideas. How tangible is it, that we can add nothing and take nothing from it in all time? How real is it, that it does not exist until our minds are connected?

    What if nothing is anything but an idea? Just a thought, not inside a program or a brain, and not floating through some aether. No god, no purpose, no justifiable creation or definable existence. A thought that wasn't and is and won't be, and we are part of that same thought? Not we at all but it, the only thing, a thought?

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    What happens when absolutely no one sees a wall?? IS IT STILL THERE?

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    I mean people see walls that aren't there all the time.

    For example, people not being able to see a way out of debt, a way to help a relationship improve, a way to a better job. They imagine they can't do better and they don't. While others imagine they can do better and do.

    Did you realize we manifest creations into the universe? We imagine things in our minds that don't exist, then make them exist.

    For example: morals, religion, politics, social structures, art, and all technology that has ever come about.

    It's fascinating. We dream it, it becomes.

    Like, we got to space using rockets thanks to science fiction. We made metamaterials (invisibility cloaks) thanks to Harry Potter. Yes, we invented invisibility.

    I don't think there is a limit to what we can do inside the universe. If we dream it, we inevitably find a way to create it using something that has always been available but unseen in the universe.

    Almost as if everything is just imagined.
    Some of these ideas are similar to books I have read :

    ”As a Man Thinketh”

    also, “The Science of Getting Rich”

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    Posted on 14:21:31 - 30/03/22 (10 months ago)
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    I'll say the universe is a probability. Our lives and this planet are not signficant to it. Consciousness and everything you associate with it is just an illusion created by the complexity of a human brain.
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    I'll say the universe is a probability. Our lives and this planet are not signficant to it. Consciousness and everything you associate with it is just an illusion created by the complexity of a human brain.
    I agree that our planet and us are possibly utterly pointless...

    It depends on one thing. Are we alone in the universe as intelligent beings, statistically not, but not proven...

    If we are it, then we are special...

    Special and f**ked...

    I will never lie to you. What I say is how I feel...

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    Posted on 02:58:01 - 31/03/22 (10 months ago)
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    But then, that hinges on the very subjective definition of intelligence. If you substitute that word in that sentence by life, it is still debatable since well versed philosophers could apply common definitions of life to the action of throwing a rock.  


    But I could get behind being special, no matter how insignificant we might be.

    Out of infinite possibilities and fluctuations come a set of rules that fit perfectly together to make the matter of our universe.
    The rules allow for change which leads to everything to collide and influence eachother ultimately leading to stars and planets.
    Stars die, planets come and go. Ultimately providing a bubbling broth of diffferent elements to bond with one another.
    Out of this proverbial stardust comes a variety of complex interconnected organisms interacting and evolving.
    Now the universe has gotten to a point where parts of it can look upon itself and observe.

    Imagine rolling an infinite sided die so often, out of it grows a hand writing on a piece of paper which sides of the die it has seen.
    Being part of something so magnificently strange should feel special.
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    Posted on 04:51:16 - 31/03/22 (10 months ago)
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    i would say it as, "everything is consciousness"

    the way to 'pierce the veil' and perceive things as they are is to meditate.

    which is to drop all ideas and let go of thoughts

    as far as our lives being filled with monotony, etc, that has not been my experience at all

    maybe you need some better brain chemicals. the beauty is we can make our own, don't need to take anything
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    i would say it as, "everything is consciousness"

    the way to 'pierce the veil' and perceive things as they are is to meditate.

    which is to drop all ideas and let go of thoughts

    as far as our lives being filled with monotony, etc, that has not been my experience at all

    maybe you need some better brain chemicals. the beauty is we can make our own, don't need to take anything
    Where I live thr people are known as some of the hardest workers in the world, based on hours worked, type of work, etc. 

    They are so busy working and so tired when thry are done, they don't get to enjoy life as much as others. Maybe that's why the monotony seems so prevalent to me. That and the fact so many people are consumed by phones and television, scrolling through endless videos or comments, which seems dull af to me.
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    Posted on 12:20:28 - 31/03/22 (10 months ago)
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    If I can see and feel something, and everyone else can, then it's there. Just there.
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    Posted on 19:45:25 - 31/03/22 (10 months ago)
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    If I can see and feel something, and everyone else can, then it's there. Just there.
    Are you sure you're not the only person, imagining all of this?
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    Posted on 09:03:40 - 01/04/22 (10 months ago)
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    10ths [2761133]

    If I can see and feel something, and everyone else can, then it's there. Just there.

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    Are you sure you're not the only person, imagining all of this?
    Well, you're right. My mind is the only thing I can be absolutely certain that exists.
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