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    Thread created on 04:59:14 - 08/02/21 (8 months ago)
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    And what about the other way around?
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    Posted on 16:47:44 - 02/03/21 (7 months ago)
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    yes
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    Posted on 15:44:05 - 03/03/21 (7 months ago)
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    no. it's true, they will swear there the only things on this planet. ask them. & they'll bring their echolan.
    1 admits, whose still popularized knowledge their standpoint yet.

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    Posted on 05:14:27 - 09/03/21 (7 months ago)
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    A taboo theory is aliens are actually just demons.
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    Posted on 19:57:53 - 02/04/21 (6 months ago)
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    same thing
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    Posted on 21:01:04 - 08/04/21 (6 months ago)
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    Or Do androids dream of electric sheep?
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    A taboo theory is aliens are actually just demons.
    big if true
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    Posted on 21:16:36 - 03/06/21 (4 months ago)
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    I believe in goats!
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    Posted on 01:26:19 - 28/06/21 (4 months ago)
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    Alies are most likely time traveling humans from the distant future.
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    Alies are most likely time traveling humans from the distant future.
    I'm not sure they are "most likely" that. It's a possibility though.

    Most likely would be a path of least resistance. Since we do not yet know the intricacies of time travel technology (or can even prove with certainty it is possible in a useful way) it is impossible to determine the difficulty of this feat. We can however assume based on current knowledge this is in the range of the most difficult endeavors.

    Traveling billions of miles safely through interstellar space is likely something which would require equally or slightly less advanced technology. We can at least predict the feasibility of this, but it's possible the technology to travel faster through space and to travel through time turn out to be the same type of tech.

    The plausibility these are demons/angels/spiritual beings is more probable, based on two reasons: the first being the world has a long and we'll recorded history of spiritual encounter, many of which are described with similarities to abduction even. And two, humans have an instinct to believe in the spiritual realm but they need to be taught the idea of aliens from another world. Call it, evolution, or the natural order of things. It could simply be an aspect of our universe or dimension we are not able to sense with standard sensory (that is 99.9% of the universe.)

    Next up, it could be we came from another world (most likely in Sol) originally and seeded this planet. This theory would explain a great deal. In particular, the interest in our planet by such a vastly superior species, but no invasion. In fact, our most likely method of seeding a planet is through technology and embryosz not physically sending ourselves across space. It very well could be aliens are all technological (maybe with organic components) essentially maintaining the planet or observation in some way. Since communication 2ouldn't be the AI directive, it would explain the lack of global dialog.

    The next more ikely thing is the technology isn't extraterrestrial at all, and we were in fact more advanced on this planet at one time than history wants to acknowledge. Mainstream history begins civilization post ice-age, ignoring the fact 99% of humans today live on coast lines, and the last ice melt wiped out previous coastlines. In fwctz they used to be hundreds of miles further out. This would give a much different context original religious texts, and the globalization of pyramids and whatnot. It is extremely likely we humans who evolved on earth had an advanced civilization (most likely the sunken continent off of India) and spread our technology globally before a catastrophe wiped out basically everything but the stories. Science is starting to shed light on this being the case. Though it doesn't remove the possibility of aliens or explain the incredibly advanced technology we witness todayz as that civilization likely would have been less advanced than the modern age (except we still don't understand some of their insane feats.)

    Path of least resistance is mass hysteriaz mob mentality, natural inclination to associate meanings or imagry from things unrelated to our identification. IE. Aliens being simply a part of our psychy and not actually real at all. Millions of people would debate this based on the things they've seen - which are usually lights moving very far away, but often viewed by people at different angles from different cities even. I believe there is enough hard evidence and witness accounts to determine at least a small percentage of "alien" sightings are real. Much of the rest does boil down to mob mentalityz but all it takes is one being real.

    Truth is often far stranger than fiction. Personally I believe the truth lies somewhere in the middle of all these theories. Perhaps all are true to a degree.
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    "And two, humans have an instinct to believe in the spiritual realm but they need to be taught the idea of aliens from another world."


    We don't, really. The instinct you describe is a logical consequence of the fact that the existence of a spiritual realm, with a deity of some sorts, traditionally was the generally accepted consensus. So as a kid you were taught there is a superior being or beings and an afterlife, depending on your religion and beliefs, which you accepted as the truth, simply because there were no counter theories.

    Only recently, since we know about stars and planets, the thought there might be aliens has developed, which indirectly is the reason religion loses its grip on the world. The idea of a superior being is no longer unchallenged and accepted without proof. People are looking for meaning and need some sort of proof, which is why they try to find a reason for occurrences they cannot explain.

    Like everyone else I don't have the answer either, let alone with proof. I'm open to every single theory unless proven not true without a shadow of a doubt, knowing that even proof depends on our current knowledge. The fact we cannot explain something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    Either way, I loved reading your theories. There's certainly a few highly interesting thoughts to be found in them. Thanks for sharing!


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    "And two, humans have an instinct to believe in the spiritual realm but they need to be taught the idea of aliens from another world."


    We don't, really. The instinct you describe is a logical consequence of the fact that the existence of a spiritual realm, with a deity of some sorts, traditionally was the generally accepted consensus. So as a kid you were taught there is a superior being or beings and an afterlife, depending on your religion and beliefs, which you accepted as the truth, simply because there were no counter theories.

    Only recently, since we know about stars and planets, the thought there might be aliens has developed, which indirectly is the reason religion loses its grip on the world. The idea of a superior being is no longer unchallenged and accepted without proof. People are looking for meaning and need some sort of proof, which is why they try to find a reason for occurrences they cannot explain.

    Like everyone else I don't have the answer either, let alone with proof. I'm open to every single theory unless proven not true without a shadow of a doubt, knowing that even proof depends on our current knowledge. The fact we cannot explain something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    Either way, I loved reading your theories. There's certainly a few highly interesting thoughts to be found in them. Thanks for sharing!
    Religious teachings are prevalent throughout history, but when I say a natural inclination I'm not referring to dieties.

    A few examples:

    - young children asking babies to tell them about god when they think adults can't hear them (not necessarily using the term god as we would assume)
    - children talking about their past lives / previous death
    - children playing with ghosts
    - our sense and need for survival
    - our desire to explain "what comes after" death. That is to say, religion was built on this desire, not the other way around.
    - Our bodies (neck in particular) has evolved to easily look to the earth, but it is uncomfortable to look to the stars. IE. We either weren't designed to look up for answers, or we didn't evolve to do that naturally.

    Pre-modern era we typically didn't attempt to explain sightings in the sky using technology. We used spirits and animals (bird wings) to explain flying objects. Modern technology expanded our imagination, essentially teaching us of alternative possibilities. Creating new technology is natural for humans so it's not entirely non-instinctual, but we only learned the concept of aliens via technology in the last 150 years, despite understanding planets and spiritual beings from "the heavens" for thousands of years. This is more an argument that we are trying to associate what we see with what we already know and understand however. We think modern science is a better understanding of the universe than our previous spiritual understanding, so we are inclined to dismiss what we thought we knew and believe we have better answers now. In reality, we'll do that again repeated for hundreds or thousands of more years.

    All that being said, I could sum up my initial comment you quoted as, "My observations of people, their attempts to understand, my experiences and my gut instinct." Perhaps it doesn't ring as true for others as it does for me. On that note, I questioned religion, the stories, Santa, and always saw magic as fantasy as a child. However, I related to natural/the universe as a whole as "god," and had experiences with spirits including a full on specter. I can't expect everyone to believe my point of view, but I know what I know. For what little that is.

    It does mostly come down to theories and ideas though. That's how finding truth begins. :)
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    Posted on 19:24:35 - 18/07/21 (3 months ago)
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    I doubt aliens believe in ghosts since they cannot anally probe ghosts.

    Aliens are super into butt stuff.
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    "And two, humans have an instinct to believe in the spiritual realm but they need to be taught the idea of aliens from another world."


    We don't, really. The instinct you describe is a logical consequence of the fact that the existence of a spiritual realm, with a deity of some sorts, traditionally was the generally accepted consensus. So as a kid you were taught there is a superior being or beings and an afterlife, depending on your religion and beliefs, which you accepted as the truth, simply because there were no counter theories.

    Only recently, since we know about stars and planets, the thought there might be aliens has developed, which indirectly is the reason religion loses its grip on the world. The idea of a superior being is no longer unchallenged and accepted without proof. People are looking for meaning and need some sort of proof, which is why they try to find a reason for occurrences they cannot explain.

    Like everyone else I don't have the answer either, let alone with proof. I'm open to every single theory unless proven not true without a shadow of a doubt, knowing that even proof depends on our current knowledge. The fact we cannot explain something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    Either way, I loved reading your theories. There's certainly a few highly interesting thoughts to be found in them. Thanks for sharing!

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    Religious teachings are prevalent throughout history, but when I say a natural inclination I'm not referring to dieties.

    A few examples:

    - young children asking babies to tell them about god when they think adults can't hear them (not necessarily using the term god as we would assume)
    - children talking about their past lives / previous death
    - children playing with ghosts
    - our sense and need for survival
    - our desire to explain "what comes after" death. That is to say, religion was built on this desire, not the other way around.
    - Our bodies (neck in particular) has evolved to easily look to the earth, but it is uncomfortable to look to the stars. IE. We either weren't designed to look up for answers, or we didn't evolve to do that naturally.

    Pre-modern era we typically didn't attempt to explain sightings in the sky using technology. We used spirits and animals (bird wings) to explain flying objects. Modern technology expanded our imagination, essentially teaching us of alternative possibilities. Creating new technology is natural for humans so it's not entirely non-instinctual, but we only learned the concept of aliens via technology in the last 150 years, despite understanding planets and spiritual beings from "the heavens" for thousands of years. This is more an argument that we are trying to associate what we see with what we already know and understand however. We think modern science is a better understanding of the universe than our previous spiritual understanding, so we are inclined to dismiss what we thought we knew and believe we have better answers now. In reality, we'll do that again repeated for hundreds or thousands of more years.

    All that being said, I could sum up my initial comment you quoted as, "My observations of people, their attempts to understand, my experiences and my gut instinct." Perhaps it doesn't ring as true for others as it does for me. On that note, I questioned religion, the stories, Santa, and always saw magic as fantasy as a child. However, I related to natural/the universe as a whole as "god," and had experiences with spirits including a full on specter. I can't expect everyone to believe my point of view, but I know what I know. For what little that is.

    It does mostly come down to theories and ideas though. That's how finding truth begins. :)
    As much as I like the mystery your examples potentially provide, they can just as easily be explained by far less exciting and mysterious possibilities. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying which explanation holds the truth because I don't have that knowledge, I merely keep all options open. I always do. 

    People in general have the tendency to search for explanations for things they cannot comprehend because our abilities where it comes to accept we cannot explain everything are limited. From that point of view it makes sense that the current most likely theories are used to do so, which usually means they choose the most recent ones as the emphasis is on those. Since the possibility of alien life forms generally gets more and more accepted as likely than the existence of a supreme being in whatever form at the moment, that is where often the expansion is sought.

    So indeed, we're trying to link the unexplained to known theories and knowledge. Nothing new there, we go with what we know. It might very well be that these theories will be thrown overboard in a few decades because we find proof things actually are different or because there's a flaw in a certain theory. It has happened before and it will happen again. A few centuries ago we all knew the world was flat for example. It's all about current knowledge and interpretation.


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    Eat some shroooms :) find out :DD


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    "And two, humans have an instinct to believe in the spiritual realm but they need to be taught the idea of aliens from another world."


    We don't, really. The instinct you describe is a logical consequence of the fact that the existence of a spiritual realm, with a deity of some sorts, traditionally was the generally accepted consensus. So as a kid you were taught there is a superior being or beings and an afterlife, depending on your religion and beliefs, which you accepted as the truth, simply because there were no counter theories.

    Only recently, since we know about stars and planets, the thought there might be aliens has developed, which indirectly is the reason religion loses its grip on the world. The idea of a superior being is no longer unchallenged and accepted without proof. People are looking for meaning and need some sort of proof, which is why they try to find a reason for occurrences they cannot explain.

    Like everyone else I don't have the answer either, let alone with proof. I'm open to every single theory unless proven not true without a shadow of a doubt, knowing that even proof depends on our current knowledge. The fact we cannot explain something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    Either way, I loved reading your theories. There's certainly a few highly interesting thoughts to be found in them. Thanks for sharing!

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    Religious teachings are prevalent throughout history, but when I say a natural inclination I'm not referring to dieties.

    A few examples:

    - young children asking babies to tell them about god when they think adults can't hear them (not necessarily using the term god as we would assume)
    - children talking about their past lives / previous death
    - children playing with ghosts
    - our sense and need for survival
    - our desire to explain "what comes after" death. That is to say, religion was built on this desire, not the other way around.
    - Our bodies (neck in particular) has evolved to easily look to the earth, but it is uncomfortable to look to the stars. IE. We either weren't designed to look up for answers, or we didn't evolve to do that naturally.

    Pre-modern era we typically didn't attempt to explain sightings in the sky using technology. We used spirits and animals (bird wings) to explain flying objects. Modern technology expanded our imagination, essentially teaching us of alternative possibilities. Creating new technology is natural for humans so it's not entirely non-instinctual, but we only learned the concept of aliens via technology in the last 150 years, despite understanding planets and spiritual beings from "the heavens" for thousands of years. This is more an argument that we are trying to associate what we see with what we already know and understand however. We think modern science is a better understanding of the universe than our previous spiritual understanding, so we are inclined to dismiss what we thought we knew and believe we have better answers now. In reality, we'll do that again repeated for hundreds or thousands of more years.

    All that being said, I could sum up my initial comment you quoted as, "My observations of people, their attempts to understand, my experiences and my gut instinct." Perhaps it doesn't ring as true for others as it does for me. On that note, I questioned religion, the stories, Santa, and always saw magic as fantasy as a child. However, I related to natural/the universe as a whole as "god," and had experiences with spirits including a full on specter. I can't expect everyone to believe my point of view, but I know what I know. For what little that is.

    It does mostly come down to theories and ideas though. That's how finding truth begins. :)

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    As much as I like the mystery your examples potentially provide, they can just as easily be explained by far less exciting and mysterious possibilities. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying which explanation holds the truth because I don't have that knowledge, I merely keep all options open. I always do.

    People in general have the tendency to search for explanations for things they cannot comprehend because our abilities where it comes to accept we cannot explain everything are limited. From that point of view it makes sense that the current most likely theories are used to do so, which usually means they choose the most recent ones as the emphasis is on those. Since the possibility of alien life forms generally gets more and more accepted as likely than the existence of a supreme being in whatever form at the moment, that is where often the expansion is sought.

    So indeed, we're trying to link the unexplained to known theories and knowledge. Nothing new there, we go with what we know. It might very well be that these theories will be thrown overboard in a few decades because we find proof things actually are different or because there's a flaw in a certain theory. It has happened before and it will happen again. A few centuries ago we all knew the world was flat for example. It's all about current knowledge and interpretation.
    I totally agree there are other explanations for things. I always keep mass hysteria on the table to explain aliens for example.

    When it comes to spirits, I have tangible enough experiences to say they are scientificly real.
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    I believe that, regardless their origin, things someone experiences feel real to them which also goes for their explanation. The fact that doesn't necessarily mean they are not is irrelevant to them and perhaps rightfully so. As far as I'm concerned everyone is free to believe whatever they want and since it's highly unlikely anyone can prove them wrong I do not judge in any way, no matter if I agree or not. It may feel unreal to me, but I have just as much proof as them. None whatsoever. I'd be interested to read about your experiences and your considerations to interpret them the way you did. What made you decide they, to you, are scientifically real?


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