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    Thread created on 15:56:26 - 09/12/18 (1 month ago)
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    Could we have a serious discussion about the bohemian grove?

    ive found some obscure historical facts that took place after WW2 that suggest something pretty interesting.

    ofc theres all that bogey bogey, illuminati, freemason, devil worship, end of the world, alex jones, WW3 stuff as well

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    Posted on 17:08:18 - 09/12/18 (1 month ago)
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    Location of the Vault of Souls

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    Posted on 18:40:39 - 09/12/18 (1 month ago)
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    lol

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    Posted on 22:19:17 - 11/12/18 (1 month ago)
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    Posted on 23:17:05 - 11/12/18 (1 month ago)
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    is that one of the boystown people?

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    Posted on 13:44:28 - 14/12/18 (1 month ago)
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    so i just wanna say im a conspiracy head myself as you might have known from our past convo's, but alot of these videos can be meticulously plotted out hoaxes.

    theres a bunch of videos that seem so real, but are actually fake. a good example would be the boystown boys, and larry king.

    this was actually a documentary on tv at one point

    this next one just interesting. i cant say if its a hoax or not. one of the first things ive ever watched about the illuminati. youll probably find john todd pretty interesting. i sure did once i first found it.

     

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    Posted on 22:56:05 - 14/12/18 (1 month ago)
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    so i just wanna say im a conspiracy head myself as you might have known from our past convo's, but alot of these videos can be meticulously plotted out hoaxes.

    theres a bunch of videos that seem so real, but are actually fake. a good example would be the boystown boys, and larry king.

    this was actually a documentary on tv at one point

    this next one just interesting. i cant say if its a hoax or not. one of the first things ive ever watched about the illuminati. youll probably find john todd pretty interesting. i sure did once i first found it.

     

    Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't buy anything until I've found what I consider to be substantial evidence. I just thought that series of interviews was interesting, but it plays way too much into all of the dark conspiracy theories surrounding the Grove. That said, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that (((Larry King)))'s crypt-keeper ass is into some sick shit like that.

    Here's my thing: we live in a society surrounded on all sides by actors. We pay people to lie to us, but only the ones that are good enough liars to fool us. It's absolutely absurd to think that real people wouldn't be able to deceive us just as convincingly in real life. I've been fooled by many conspiracy theories, and bought into nonsense because it was fun to believe.

    I think the elites are up to some sick shit. I think some sick shit probably happens at the Grove. Do I think it's some super dark devil-worshiping black magick? No. At least not legitimate black magick. They probably do some mock rituals, and indulge in theatrics, and maybe have a little gay sex or something, but the West lacks the spiritual discipline for true occultism. Soooo, what happens there is likely devoid of the over-the-top "Satanic" shit everybody attributes to it.

    At the end of the day, it's all speculation on our part. We're left to wonder what the unimaginably rich and powerful do behind closed doors, and I'm sure it leaves them laughing at the nightmarish fantasies we dream up about them.

    "Don't tell me how power can corrupt a person. You've never had enough to know what it's like."

    - Nine Inch Nails: "Capital G"

    I've never heard about the Boystown Boys, but I'm going to look into that. And I'll definitely watch those videos. I'm really not sure where I stand with all the conspiracies these days. I've been studying mysticism/occultism pretty thoroughly over the last year or so, and I've gotten to the point where I can't listen to Christians talk about the "Satanic elite". I've come to realize that they (well, we, since I was in that camp for a long time) attribute things that they don't understand to people they fear.

    ALL OF THAT BEING SAID: I believe there is a group of elites that practice the Draconian tradition, doing pathworking with the Tree of Qliphoth. That DOES involve so-called "black magick" rituals, as well as the very heavy use of blood. From what I've gathered, there's sacrifice involved, too. There are various subsects of Qliphothic sorcerers/adherents, but in a lot of them, Moloch is considered the chief deity (either him or Samael -- it's all terribly convoluted). Moloch, of course, being the deity to whom child sacrifice is attributed.

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    Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't buy anything until I've found what I consider to be substantial evidence. I just thought that series of interviews was interesting, but it plays way too much into all of the dark conspiracy theories surrounding the Grove. That said, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that (((Larry King)))'s crypt-keeper ass is into some sick shit like that.

    Here's my thing: we live in a society surrounded on all sides by actors. We pay people to lie to us, but only the ones that are good enough liars to fool us. It's absolutely absurd to think that real people wouldn't be able to deceive us just as convincingly in real life. I've been fooled by many conspiracy theories, and bought into nonsense because it was fun to believe.

    I think the elites are up to some sick shit. I think some sick shit probably happens at the Grove. Do I think it's some super dark devil-worshiping black magick? No. At least not legitimate black magick. They probably do some mock rituals, and indulge in theatrics, and maybe have a little gay sex or something, but the West lacks the spiritual discipline for true occultism. Soooo, what happens there is likely devoid of the over-the-top "Satanic" shit everybody attributes to it.

    At the end of the day, it's all speculation on our part. We're left to wonder what the unimaginably rich and powerful do behind closed doors, and I'm sure it leaves them laughing at the nightmarish fantasies we dream up about them.

    "Don't tell me how power can corrupt a person. You've never had enough to know what it's like."

    - Nine Inch Nails: "Capital G"

    I've never heard about the Boystown Boys, but I'm going to look into that. And I'll definitely watch those videos. I'm really not sure where I stand with all the conspiracies these days. I've been studying mysticism/occultism pretty thoroughly over the last year or so, and I've gotten to the point where I can't listen to Christians talk about the "Satanic elite". I've come to realize that they (well, we, since I was in that camp for a long time) attribute things that they don't understand to people they fear.

    ALL OF THAT BEING SAID: I believe there is a group of elites that practice the Draconian tradition, doing pathworking with the Tree of Qliphoth. That DOES involve so-called "black magick" rituals, as well as the very heavy use of blood. From what I've gathered, there's sacrifice involved, too. There are various subsects of Qliphothic sorcerers/adherents, but in a lot of them, Moloch is considered the chief deity (either him or Samael -- it's all terribly convoluted). Moloch, of course, being the deity to whom child sacrifice is attributed.

    thats pretty much the point im at as well. ive been fooled many times myself. i do still enjoy a good conspiracy though. they are fun. those videos you posted just really reminded me of fake ones cause the whole style of the videos were pretty familiar to me. i just think if that happend to me. would i act like that? it is hard to say though i guess. interesting nonetheless 

    you know alot more about the occult and mysticism then i do though haha. was way too much, as far as i can tell - church propaganda trying to scare me to jesus to really get into it. the egyptian mystery schools were pretty cool to learn about though, but thats really all i got. maybe some aleister crowley with his sex magik lol.. ied love to hear more about it from you though, or some decent sources you'd recommend. seems to me the only places to learn about the old gods, and stuff are like satanist sites haha..

    something i wanna bring up ot though, you know how you can look up on wiki all the members and past members of the bohemian grove? well one night i stumbled on a few members who were actually diplomats from key countries who were involved in WW2. from what i read. they all met there to agree that another huge war like that would never happen again. i found that very interesting. the main wiki literally says nothing about the history of the place. its pretty vague actually.

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    thats pretty much the point im at as well. ive been fooled many times myself. i do still enjoy a good conspiracy though. they are fun. those videos you posted just really reminded me of fake ones cause the whole style of the videos were pretty familiar to me. i just think if that happend to me. would i act like that? it is hard to say though i guess. interesting nonetheless 

    you know alot more about the occult and mysticism then i do though haha. was way too much, as far as i can tell - church propaganda trying to scare me to jesus to really get into it. the egyptian mystery schools were pretty cool to learn about though, but thats really all i got. maybe some aleister crowley with his sex magik lol.. ied love to hear more about it from you though, or some decent sources you'd recommend. seems to me the only places to learn about the old gods, and stuff are like satanist sites haha..

    something i wanna bring up ot though, you know how you can look up on wiki all the members and past members of the bohemian grove? well one night i stumbled on a few members who were actually diplomats from key countries who were involved in WW2. from what i read. they all met there to agree that another huge war like that would never happen again. i found that very interesting. the main wiki literally says nothing about the history of the place. its pretty vague actually.

    Oh man, I've got a YouTube channel to show you: Katy Groves

    CIA Child Snuff Survivor Speaks Out <-- that video is a good starting point

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    I think a lot of Egyptian mysticism is copied or imitated by other mystic traditions. Or perhaps it is simply an interpretation of the same underlying magick as the rest of the traditions, one of the many unique paths to the same goal.

    As far as the occult stuff, most of my sources come from Left Hand Path-leaning authors and communities. I got into this through Satanism and sort of branched out in all directions, trying to see bits of everything, to see what's underneath.

    Have you heard of Styxhexenhammer666? He mostly does political videos these days, but does have a good series on the occult. He also has his own website (linked from his channel) and he sells "restored" grimoires on Amazon for pretty cheap.

    If you want to learn more about the Tree of Qliphoth (Tree of Death), I'd recommend checking out the Temple of the Ascending Flame. I've got two of their books (Tree of Qliphoth and Draconian Ritual Book) and they seem to have a solid understanding of the tradition, and are very well-articulated. Just tread carefully. I don't normally believe in the idea of white magick or black magick... but this shit is black magick. Other than the Temple, I've only found it discussed on random blogs and occasionally brought up on message boards. It takes some digging to unravel this one, and it leads down some dark paths.

    For Qabalah, I'm honestly not sure. I bought a random book I found at a book shop and I haven't even read it yet. Everything I've learned has been from random blogs and web articles. All I know is that it is Jewish sorcery, and I think it best to try to understand it as well as possible. 

    I also snagged a book about Thelema and Crowley, as well as a few of Crowley's books, but I haven't read any of them yet. I'm wary of the man and his religion. A lot of it seems like a great way to go ****ing crazy. Most of it seems centered around Hermetic Qabalah (practical Qabalah), which is the aforementioned Jewish sorcery that I believe may drive Gentiles insane.

    Demonolatry is another interesting tradition. Stephanie Connolly is one of the most highly-regarded Demonolators, and her website is full of great information on the path. It's also tied heavily into theistic/spiritual Satanism. Diane Vera (a highly-regarded theistic Satanist) references Connolly on her website.

    The occult truly is a rabbit hole, with so much waiting at the other end. If nothing else, it's fascinating to explore the different traditions and see where they overlap.

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    That's interesting about the diplomats. I remember reading through the list and thinking there were some shocking names on there, if all of the conspiracy theories were true.