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    Posted on 05:33:49 - 23/05/18 (8 months ago)
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    "I can't actually do it myself, so everyone must be lying about it."

    What an asinine belief system. "It's better only to believe something if I do it myself, better not believe in sattilites, because I don't believe in physics, better believe the world is flat because I don't believe in cartography, better believe that I can cast spells because I don't understand how scientific documentation works."

    You live in a very intersting fantasy world.

    Oh my god, this is hands-down the best thing you've posted in this thread.

    "I can't actually do it myself, so everyone must be lying about it."

    We took the scenic route, but we got there in the end.

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    Posted on 05:34:17 - 23/05/18 (8 months ago)
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    "The line between "light magic" and "dark magic" is very blurred, and mindfully walking that line requires a level of discernment most people don't have the patience to develop."

    Coming from the person who wrote this garbage I would expect nothing less than a full on childish belief that you can do "magic"

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    I'm not surprised you don't understand what I was saying. You don't seem capable of understanding much outside your very limited view of the world.

    >literally talks about magic being real
    >Talks about manipulating "energy"
    >Criticizes people for understanding scientific method
    >Thinks he can cast spells
    >Criticizes the use of the word "Spell" because it's to "pop culture"

    OK boss, you go back to living in the dark ages, I'm gonna sit here and enjoy modern comforts that science brought us.

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    Posted on 05:36:36 - 23/05/18 (8 months ago)
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    "I can't actually do it myself, so everyone must be lying about it."

    What an asinine belief system. "It's better only to believe something if I do it myself, better not believe in sattilites, because I don't believe in physics, better believe the world is flat because I don't believe in cartography, better believe that I can cast spells because I don't understand how scientific documentation works."

    You live in a very intersting fantasy world.

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    Oh my god, this is hands-down the best thing you've posted in this thread.

    "I can't actually do it myself, so everyone must be lying about it."

    We took the scenic route, but we got there in the end.

    That your belief system is based on a fundamental lack of scientific merit and is rooted deeply in delusional fantasy? Yes, it did take you a bit to realize that, but I'm proud of you for getting there.

    If you want to change my mind so badly, why no invoke Satanist rituals to make it happen? Or do you think that's beyond your faiths power?

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    Posted on 05:37:33 - 23/05/18 (8 months ago)
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    >literally talks about magic being real
    >Talks about manipulating "energy"
    >Criticizes people for understanding scientific method
    >Thinks he can cast spells
    >Criticizes the use of the word "Spell" because it's to "pop culture"

    OK boss, you go back to living in the dark ages, I'm gonna sit here and enjoy modern comforts that science brought us.

    Modern comforts have made your mind weak.

    I'm still trying to figure out where I said I could cast spells. That's all fabricated nonsense used to undermine the credibility of our belief system (which... admittedly... is working pretty damn well).

    I don't cast spells. I don't even perform ritual magic. I don't believe that the majority of ritual magic you'll come across is legitimate. Most of it is nonsense spread around by edgy teens and people that are mentally ill, or desperate for higher purpose.

    Real magic is something else entirely. Though now I feel like "magic" was the wrong word to use here. Obviously people can't see past the common-use definition of the term.

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    Posted on 05:39:24 - 23/05/18 (8 months ago)
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    That your belief system is based on a fundamental lack of scientific merit and is rooted deeply in delusional fantasy? Yes, it did take you a bit to realize that, but I'm proud of you for getting there.

    If you want to change my mind so badly, why no invoke Satanist rituals to make it happen? Or do you think that's beyond your faiths power?

    I'm not interested in changing your mind. I already outted you for the fool you are.

    And don't blaspheme. I would never ask him to act on my behalf, simply because of a personal feud.

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    Posted on 05:42:28 - 23/05/18 (8 months ago)
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    >literally talks about magic being real
    >Talks about manipulating "energy"
    >Criticizes people for understanding scientific method
    >Thinks he can cast spells
    >Criticizes the use of the word "Spell" because it's to "pop culture"

    OK boss, you go back to living in the dark ages, I'm gonna sit here and enjoy modern comforts that science brought us.

    MadHatter [486416]

    Modern comforts have made your mind weak.

    I'm still trying to figure out where I said I could cast spells. That's all fabricated nonsense used to undermine the credibility of our belief system (which... admittedly... is working pretty damn well).

    I don't cast spells. I don't even perform ritual magic. I don't believe that the majority of ritual magic you'll come across is legitimate. Most of it is nonsense spread around by edgy teens and people that are mentally ill, or desperate for higher purpose.

    Real magic is something else entirely. Though now I feel like "magic" was the wrong word to use here. Obviously people can't see past the common-use definition of the term.

    Seriously, the caveat here is that you're super down on research, because you think it's invalidated by your unwillingness to put the legwork into actually doing any experiments yourself. Dude, I've spent the last decade utilizing research, scientific method, and conducting experiments to round out my education and make a living.

    I believe in science, BECAUSE IT WORKS.

    It's quantifyable, I can repeat experiments to confirm data, and in SOME cases, we've discovered discrepancies in other peoples methodology or been unable to repeat an outcome, so we QUESTION THE DATA. Like, how the **** do you not understand this? You think there's literally hundreds of thousands of copywriters out there churning out falsified scienfic data? You think that the multi-billion dollar research community is actually a hired legion of precient science fiction writers that JUST SO  HAPPEN to get a lot of their predictions correct?

    How else do you explain the fact that science WORKS? Like, do you think it's magic? Honestly, you seem like you might think the moder world is a result of magic.

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    Posted on 05:44:19 - 23/05/18 (8 months ago)
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    That your belief system is based on a fundamental lack of scientific merit and is rooted deeply in delusional fantasy? Yes, it did take you a bit to realize that, but I'm proud of you for getting there.

    If you want to change my mind so badly, why no invoke Satanist rituals to make it happen? Or do you think that's beyond your faiths power?

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    I'm not interested in changing your mind. I already outted you for the fool you are.

    And don't blaspheme. I would never ask him to act on my behalf, simply because of a personal feud.

    "Christianity is dumb and evil and lies, but Lucifer TOTALLY EXISTS and is just misunderstood." DISPITE THE FACT THAT LUCIFER IS AN INVENTION OF CHRISTIANITY AND DOESN"T ACTUALLY EXIST OUTSIDE THE BIBLE.



    Pull the other one, it's got bells on. Religion is a cavemans way of explaining the world around him. We replaced it when we learned how to record data.

    "Who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"

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    Posted on 06:14:04 - 23/05/18 (8 months ago)
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    T-Stark [2086654]

    That your belief system is based on a fundamental lack of scientific merit and is rooted deeply in delusional fantasy? Yes, it did take you a bit to realize that, but I'm proud of you for getting there.

    If you want to change my mind so badly, why no invoke Satanist rituals to make it happen? Or do you think that's beyond your faiths power?

    MadHatter [486416]

    I'm not interested in changing your mind. I already outted you for the fool you are.

    And don't blaspheme. I would never ask him to act on my behalf, simply because of a personal feud.

    T-Stark [2086654]

    "Christianity is dumb and evil and lies, but Lucifer TOTALLY EXISTS and is just misunderstood." DISPITE THE FACT THAT LUCIFER IS AN INVENTION OF CHRISTIANITY AND DOESN"T ACTUALLY EXIST OUTSIDE THE BIBLE.



    Pull the other one, it's got bells on. Religion is a cavemans way of explaining the world around him. We replaced it when we learned how to record data.

    "Who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"

    Joy of Satan - Satanic Information for Atheists & Other Skeptics

    Humor me

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    Posted on 06:30:34 - 23/05/18 (8 months ago)
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    T-Stark [2086654]

    That your belief system is based on a fundamental lack of scientific merit and is rooted deeply in delusional fantasy? Yes, it did take you a bit to realize that, but I'm proud of you for getting there.

    If you want to change my mind so badly, why no invoke Satanist rituals to make it happen? Or do you think that's beyond your faiths power?

    MadHatter [486416]

    I'm not interested in changing your mind. I already outted you for the fool you are.

    And don't blaspheme. I would never ask him to act on my behalf, simply because of a personal feud.

    T-Stark [2086654]

    "Christianity is dumb and evil and lies, but Lucifer TOTALLY EXISTS and is just misunderstood." DISPITE THE FACT THAT LUCIFER IS AN INVENTION OF CHRISTIANITY AND DOESN"T ACTUALLY EXIST OUTSIDE THE BIBLE.



    Pull the other one, it's got bells on. Religion is a cavemans way of explaining the world around him. We replaced it when we learned how to record data.

    "Who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"

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    Joy of Satan - Satanic Information for Atheists & Other Skeptics

    Humor me

    I'm reading it, because I do my due diligance. (Also, I'll refrain from pointing out the irony that you stinkbombed my house and negvoted me first, before then throwing a 4mil bounty tantrum that I had the audacity to neg vote you.)

    So, surface impression. You've linked me to an anglefire site who's only other source appears to be other pages by the same writer connected by hyperlinks.

    The "Physics of the soul" makes extraordinary claims, without a shred of documentation to support anything about a soul beyond "I wrote this on the internet, therefore it's true."

    The "Exposing Christianity" page treats the spread of Christianity like some kind of conspiracy, rather than the fairly normal event that it is ( A violent userper trying to displace and destroy conflicting ideologies. The same could be said about ALL religions the a greater or lesser degree).

    Kirlian photography has been totally debunked, in multiple, and easily repeatable circumstances.

    And the page you linked to literally consists of a guy going, "I was christian, but now I believe in Satanism because I'm enlightened" and totally misses the irony of jumping from one belief system to another based on nothing more than self referential citations.

    I mean, he didn't even get the name of the authors of the books he was referencing correct! How am I supposed to take seriously comeone who can't even properly copy the name of the person he's citing? (Mind you the phenomenon of psychic viewing has been debunked not only scientifically, but publicly a number of times. Their success rate is slighly LOWER than straight up guesswork.) I mean, if the big reveal is that the US army ran a program in the 60's predicated on the Russians using "Psychic Spies" bad news, that shit was public long before his book was published.

    "A group of professional people who were skeptics, attempted to summon a Demon as a joke, and were brought to my attention after the fact. They found out the hard way that Satanic rituals are not something to take lightly or to toy around with."

    This guy really, honestly believes that you can summon demons. This is a guy you want me to take seriously.

    In summation, you've linked me to an anglefire page that doesn't cite any worthwhile sources, is nearly entirely self referential, and to a guy that believes summoning demons is possible.

    I humored you, and was rewarded with wasted time, and confirmation that organized religion is, in fact, a crock of shit.


     I continued reading and I've found such gems as:

    "Yoga is a conspiracy, and documentation that it existed before Satanism is a lie."

    "The Illuminati are real and seek to bring about a New World Order."

    "Freemasons are not the Illuminati, but want the same new world order."

    A staggering amount of anti-semitism. It doesn't directly contradict a central point, but it sure a shit speaks to character.

    My favorite page title so far: "PROOF: The True Purpose of the Bible is for Jewish Witchcraft"

    Holy shit, this guy straight up thinks the Holocaust didn't happen:  "For proof the holocaust is another lie [who controls Hollywood and is expert with making fantasy appear to be real]"




    Ok, so considering the source, Satanism is worse bullshit than christianity if this is the kind of person peddling that snake oil

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    Posted on 06:46:31 - 23/05/18 (8 months ago)
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    T-Stark [2086654]

    That your belief system is based on a fundamental lack of scientific merit and is rooted deeply in delusional fantasy? Yes, it did take you a bit to realize that, but I'm proud of you for getting there.

    If you want to change my mind so badly, why no invoke Satanist rituals to make it happen? Or do you think that's beyond your faiths power?

    MadHatter [486416]

    I'm not interested in changing your mind. I already outted you for the fool you are.

    And don't blaspheme. I would never ask him to act on my behalf, simply because of a personal feud.

    T-Stark [2086654]

    "Christianity is dumb and evil and lies, but Lucifer TOTALLY EXISTS and is just misunderstood." DISPITE THE FACT THAT LUCIFER IS AN INVENTION OF CHRISTIANITY AND DOESN"T ACTUALLY EXIST OUTSIDE THE BIBLE.



    Pull the other one, it's got bells on. Religion is a cavemans way of explaining the world around him. We replaced it when we learned how to record data.

    "Who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"

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    Joy of Satan - Satanic Information for Atheists & Other Skeptics

    Humor me

    This is the guy you're using as a primary source:

    The Holy Bible: A Book of Jewish Witchcraft

    2000 Years of Jewish Ritual Murder

    Jewish Ritual Murder

    The Holy Bible: A Book of Jewish Witchcraft Part 2

    Coincidence? I don't think so... Parts 1 & 2: About the Jewish-staged Paris Terror Attack and Proof of How the Bible Was Used to Pull This Off [13 November 2015]

    The Christian Mass and How it Ties into Jewish Ritual Murder

    The Torah and Living Blood Sacrifice

    Christianity, Communism, the Jews and the Bible

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    Posted on 06:55:32 - 23/05/18 (8 months ago)
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    I found it. The holy ****ing grail. He combines alien conspiracy, religious conspiracy and anti-semitism into one glorious whackjob orgy:

    The Jewish Enforced Microchip Implants PDF
    The above article is extremely serious. This is what the enemy race of alien Greys have, a microchip implant that controls their emotions, thoughts and everything else. The article contains numerous reference links along with excerpts that prove this is in the VERY near future for the entire world and is already happening.

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    Posted on 06:56:42 - 23/05/18 (8 months ago)
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    Here, this site might be for you! All the anti-science, anti-education, anti-religion, anti-semitism you can shake a stick at!

    http://timecube.2enp.com/

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    Posted on 04:11:32 - 24/05/18 (8 months ago)
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    I want you to know that I read literally none of what you wrote. I just wanted to see how much of your time I could waste, and if I could get you to write a few more novels on why I'm such a silly goose

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    Posted on 09:58:01 - 24/05/18 (7 months ago)
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    I want you to know that I read literally none of what you wrote. I just wanted to see how much of your time I could waste, and if I could get you to write a few more novels on why I'm such a silly goose

    "Gosh, I got caught supporting a deeply anti-semetic website. Better say it was just a troll!"

    I understand you perfectly! :D

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    Posted on 06:13:46 - 25/05/18 (7 months ago)
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    "Gosh, I got caught supporting a deeply anti-semetic website. Better say it was just a troll!"

    I understand you perfectly! :D

    I didn't say it was a troll. Your reading comprehension is as impressive as ever.

    I just showed you the rabbit hole, knowing you wouldn't be able to resist going deeper and deeper, all in the name of proving someone else wrong. You performed marvelously.

    Seriously, a website that defines it's terms, uses them to prove it's own messages, and cites sources that end up just being sister sites run by the same organization? And that's not even mentioning the countless glaring contradictions I found when they discussed the origins of the Bible (were Jehova/Jesus fictitious, or monstrous gods?). C'mon bud, I'm not even that crazy. But you have just demonstrated the lengths to which you'll go in order to prove your intellectual worth. All in the name of winning an internet argument with a faceless stranger

    Besides, I don't backtrack based on accusations of bigotry. I literally couldn't care any ****ing less if people think I'm a bigot or not.

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    Posted on 09:33:31 - 25/05/18 (7 months ago)
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    "Gosh, I got caught supporting a deeply anti-semetic website. Better say it was just a troll!"

    I understand you perfectly! :D

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    I didn't say it was a troll. Your reading comprehension is as impressive as ever.

    I just showed you the rabbit hole, knowing you wouldn't be able to resist going deeper and deeper, all in the name of proving someone else wrong. You performed marvelously.

    Seriously, a website that defines it's terms, uses them to prove it's own messages, and cites sources that end up just being sister sites run by the same organization? And that's not even mentioning the countless glaring contradictions I found when they discussed the origins of the Bible (were Jehova/Jesus fictitious, or monstrous gods?). C'mon bud, I'm not even that crazy. But you have just demonstrated the lengths to which you'll go in order to prove your intellectual worth. All in the name of winning an internet argument with a faceless stranger

    Besides, I don't backtrack based on accusations of bigotry. I literally couldn't care any ****ing less if people think I'm a bigot or not.

    "Ah snap, he know's the 'Just Kidding' defense, last thing left to do is double down..."

     

    I getcha man. You're in a tight spot here. You're options are to keep looking rediculous, or stop posting, but your ego won't let you do the latter. :/ Tough times. Though you set the bar for looking like an idiot pretty low when you tried to convice this poor dude that you could cast magic spells.

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    Posted on 18:09:07 - 25/05/18 (7 months ago)
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    "Ah snap, he know's the 'Just Kidding' defense, last thing left to do is double down..."

     

    I getcha man. You're in a tight spot here. You're options are to keep looking rediculous, or stop posting, but your ego won't let you do the latter. :/ Tough times. Though you set the bar for looking like an idiot pretty low when you tried to convice this poor dude that you could cast magic spells.

    Ya know, this was getting tedious for a moment, but I think we're circling back around to having fun. When I get off work, I'll give you a couple more sites to dissect. I don't think you have much else going on in your life, so we'll find something to keep you engaged

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    Posted on 20:02:58 - 25/05/18 (7 months ago)
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    "Ah snap, he know's the 'Just Kidding' defense, last thing left to do is double down..."

     

    I getcha man. You're in a tight spot here. You're options are to keep looking rediculous, or stop posting, but your ego won't let you do the latter. :/ Tough times. Though you set the bar for looking like an idiot pretty low when you tried to convice this poor dude that you could cast magic spells.

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    Ya know, this was getting tedious for a moment, but I think we're circling back around to having fun. When I get off work, I'll give you a couple more sites to dissect. I don't think you have much else going on in your life, so we'll find something to keep you engaged

    Nah, I'm good. I already know magic isn't real.

    Editors note:  Yeah, not much on my plate, just finished getting my second degree overseas and am packing to head home.

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    Posted on 19:51:34 - 02/06/18 (7 months ago)
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    Sweeney_Todd [27468]

    No, it's because it doesn't work...

    Show me the authentic, cross checked scientific proof and I will apologise profously. Until then, I'll save people wasting their money, time and chance to actually get better... 

    Science does not not answer everything, if it does can you simply tell me or show me how to measure human feelings or thoughts  

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    T-Stark [2086654]

    That your belief system is based on a fundamental lack of scientific merit and is rooted deeply in delusional fantasy? Yes, it did take you a bit to realize that, but I'm proud of you for getting there.

    If you want to change my mind so badly, why no invoke Satanist rituals to make it happen? Or do you think that's beyond your faiths power?

    MadHatter [486416]

    I'm not interested in changing your mind. I already outted you for the fool you are.

    And don't blaspheme. I would never ask him to act on my behalf, simply because of a personal feud.

    T-Stark [2086654]

    "Christianity is dumb and evil and lies, but Lucifer TOTALLY EXISTS and is just misunderstood." DISPITE THE FACT THAT LUCIFER IS AN INVENTION OF CHRISTIANITY AND DOESN"T ACTUALLY EXIST OUTSIDE THE BIBLE.



    Pull the other one, it's got bells on. Religion is a cavemans way of explaining the world around him. We replaced it when we learned how to record data.

    "Who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"

    Sorry bro, before scientific discovery, The bible had described the shape of earth without scientific tools, and it was confirmed to be so. That details exist beyond Bible pages