What religion are you?
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    Timy [2090435]

    Christianity is only true religion. Judaism is true but Christianity completes it. Islam and the rest aren't 

    dolly [2010409]

    Why do you say that? 

    I actually believe in Islam and also the principles of Christianity by following what the Bible teaches and not ehat the church teaches. 

    KingUzziah [2092518]

    At first I was going to like Timy's post then I thought better of it. Christianity as a religion is a religion and so is Islam and so is Taoism. To say that Christianity is the only true religion is a little narrow minded. If you were to say that there is one true God and the Christian faith was founded by that God, I would agree more readily. One of the major problems of Christianity is that it is all too often a religion and not a lifestyle and so is self contradicting. The religion of Christianity in its modern form is not necessary to the world. Now to address the above quote. How can you follow Islam and Christianity? They are at the core vastly different and adherents to Islam think that Christians are their greatest enemies. If you follow both, you will have to behead yourself.

    dolly [2010409]

    Hello there.

    I hope this answers your question:

    Christians and Muslims both believe in One God, The same God. "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for Almighty God. Allah is also the same word that Arabic speaking Christians and Jews use to refer to God. We both believe in the same prophets Moses, David, Noah etc. Muslims also believe the original Bible to be holy scripture.

    Fundamentally, both religions are the same. 

    The main difference is Christians believe Jesus to be the son of God. Whereas Muslims believe we are all, including Jesus, children of God (not biological). This is down to interpretation. 

    I definitely do not see Christians as my greatest enemy. My in-laws are not Muslim and a majority of them are Christians and I love them as my family. 

    Therefore I have no problem in accepting both religions and I hope I answered your question. 

    Zauzam [2049144]

    Just so you know in the Bible and in the Quran it says that if you do not worship my God you will suffer in eternal hell. 

    To put it simple if you chose to be a Christian and worshipped Jesus then you're no Muslim as Muslims must only worship Allah which means you will suffer in hell. If you chose to be a Muslim and you worshipped Allah which Christians don't believe in as they believe Jesus is God, you will be sent to hell. 

    All religions are man made and false in my opinion. 

    dolly [2010409]

    Jesus does not say in the Bible he is God or to worship him. 

    False, Jesus regularly called himself the Son of God (essence), the exact representation of His (God's) being. He did accept worship of humans and in the end the Jews crucified Him because He DID claim to be God.

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    Posted on 14:49:28 - 10/01/18 (1 year ago)
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    Hes the Sun

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    Sadly what started out to be a potentially fun conversation turned into people that don't really know what they are talking about criticizing people for not knowing what they are talking about. The misconceptions about the divisions in Islam, the lack of basic understanding of the Bible, a more informed discussion would be nice.  If you know as little about Islam as you do about Christianity, you not really a good follower of either. I recommend reading both books beginning to end, think through each with logic and with compassion for others and see what you think after that.

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    Posted on 15:20:35 - 10/01/18 (1 year ago)
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    whos he talking to

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    KingUzziah [2092518]

    Sadly what started out to be a potentially fun conversation turned into people that don't really know what they are talking about criticizing people for not knowing what they are talking about. The misconceptions about the divisions in Islam, the lack of basic understanding of the Bible, a more informed discussion would be nice.  If you know as little about Islam as you do about Christianity, you not really a good follower of either. I recommend reading both books beginning to end, think through each with logic and with compassion for others and see what you think after that.

    Its just a man made book dude, it means nothing and there's nothing supernatural in this world. I'd rather go read all the harry potter books again. 

    Colorless green ideas sleep furiously

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    Posted on 05:20:01 - 11/01/18 (1 year ago)
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    Luzyfer [2067828]

    I advise you to look into the differences between Sunni Islam and Shia Islam, as most muslims belong to Sunni Islam, while the minority, the Shia Islam the one is that acts out Taqiyya and also performs all those terrorist attacks.

    I'm going to go read up on the differences before I post anything else. Y'all got me fair and square on that one.

    Edit:

    Eh, I'm not seeing that striking, divisive difference that you seem to be referring to. A Muslim is a Muslim if they believe in Shariah law, and both sects follow Shariah law. I have no respect for any person that follows Shariah law.

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    Posted on 05:22:16 - 11/01/18 (1 year ago)
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    RasAlGhul [1448500]

    You need to relax. Jizya is less than what the muslim majority have to pay. Islam liberated Womens rights. I don't know what you're talking about 'honor killings' lmao funniest thing i've heard.

    MadHatter [486416]

    Everything you've just said is bullshit. Women's right? That's ****ing laughable. Don't know about 'honor killings'? How could you not? Zauzam is somehow both a political retard and a religious realist. I guess a broken clock is right twice a day.

    _Abaddon_ [1617737]

    where do you even find these bullcraps

    Google. Literally typed "taqiyya" into Google image search. It's that easy. Welcome to the internet, bud.

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    Posted on 05:31:59 - 11/01/18 (1 year ago)
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    Zauzam [2049144]

    Taqiyya is a principle in the shia version of islam not in the sunni, so to call taqiyya to everything a muslim says would be pretty moronic. It seems like you got all these images from a low IQ pro trump twitter account, you can criticise Islam as a religion better then this. We all know nothing supernatural exists in this world and all religions are false but we should still criticise what religions teach, religion has caused a lot of suffering and death, back in the years Christiainity was the most brutal religion as it spread like a disease by force. (If you deny Christianity having a horrific past then you're seriously an idiot and need to learn your history go search it up). http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm you can start off with that site, it has great resources. 

    Most religions got their start as conquest ideologies. You won't hear me defend a religion I don't adhere to.

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    dolly [2010409]

    Why do you say that? 

    I actually believe in Islam and also the principles of Christianity by following what the Bible teaches and not ehat the church teaches. 

    KingUzziah [2092518]

    At first I was going to like Timy's post then I thought better of it. Christianity as a religion is a religion and so is Islam and so is Taoism. To say that Christianity is the only true religion is a little narrow minded. If you were to say that there is one true God and the Christian faith was founded by that God, I would agree more readily. One of the major problems of Christianity is that it is all too often a religion and not a lifestyle and so is self contradicting. The religion of Christianity in its modern form is not necessary to the world. Now to address the above quote. How can you follow Islam and Christianity? They are at the core vastly different and adherents to Islam think that Christians are their greatest enemies. If you follow both, you will have to behead yourself.

    dolly [2010409]

    Hello there.

    I hope this answers your question:

    Christians and Muslims both believe in One God, The same God. "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for Almighty God. Allah is also the same word that Arabic speaking Christians and Jews use to refer to God. We both believe in the same prophets Moses, David, Noah etc. Muslims also believe the original Bible to be holy scripture.

    Fundamentally, both religions are the same. 

    The main difference is Christians believe Jesus to be the son of God. Whereas Muslims believe we are all, including Jesus, children of God (not biological). This is down to interpretation. 

    I definitely do not see Christians as my greatest enemy. My in-laws are not Muslim and a majority of them are Christians and I love them as my family. 

    Therefore I have no problem in accepting both religions and I hope I answered your question. 

    Zauzam [2049144]

    Just so you know in the Bible and in the Quran it says that if you do not worship my God you will suffer in eternal hell. 

    To put it simple if you chose to be a Christian and worshipped Jesus then you're no Muslim as Muslims must only worship Allah which means you will suffer in hell. If you chose to be a Muslim and you worshipped Allah which Christians don't believe in as they believe Jesus is God, you will be sent to hell. 

    All religions are man made and false in my opinion. 

    dolly [2010409]

    Jesus does not say in the Bible he is God or to worship him. 

    KingUzziah [2092518]

    False, Jesus regularly called himself the Son of God (essence), the exact representation of His (God's) being. He did accept worship of humans and in the end the Jews crucified Him because He DID claim to be God.

    Produce your proof if you are truthful 

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    RasAlGhul [1448500]

    You need to relax. Jizya is less than what the muslim majority have to pay. Islam liberated Womens rights. I don't know what you're talking about 'honor killings' lmao funniest thing i've heard.

    MadHatter [486416]

    Everything you've just said is bullshit. Women's right? That's ****ing laughable. Don't know about 'honor killings'? How could you not? Zauzam is somehow both a political retard and a religious realist. I guess a broken clock is right twice a day.

    _Abaddon_ [1617737]

    where do you even find these bullcraps

    MadHatter [486416]

    Google. Literally typed "taqiyya" into Google image search. It's that easy. Welcome to the internet, bud.

    No religion is based on the information you find floating around the internet.............. 

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    KingUzziah [2092518]

    At first I was going to like Timy's post then I thought better of it. Christianity as a religion is a religion and so is Islam and so is Taoism. To say that Christianity is the only true religion is a little narrow minded. If you were to say that there is one true God and the Christian faith was founded by that God, I would agree more readily. One of the major problems of Christianity is that it is all too often a religion and not a lifestyle and so is self contradicting. The religion of Christianity in its modern form is not necessary to the world. Now to address the above quote. How can you follow Islam and Christianity? They are at the core vastly different and adherents to Islam think that Christians are their greatest enemies. If you follow both, you will have to behead yourself.

    dolly [2010409]

    Hello there.

    I hope this answers your question:

    Christians and Muslims both believe in One God, The same God. "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for Almighty God. Allah is also the same word that Arabic speaking Christians and Jews use to refer to God. We both believe in the same prophets Moses, David, Noah etc. Muslims also believe the original Bible to be holy scripture.

    Fundamentally, both religions are the same. 

    The main difference is Christians believe Jesus to be the son of God. Whereas Muslims believe we are all, including Jesus, children of God (not biological). This is down to interpretation. 

    I definitely do not see Christians as my greatest enemy. My in-laws are not Muslim and a majority of them are Christians and I love them as my family. 

    Therefore I have no problem in accepting both religions and I hope I answered your question. 

    Zauzam [2049144]

    Just so you know in the Bible and in the Quran it says that if you do not worship my God you will suffer in eternal hell. 

    To put it simple if you chose to be a Christian and worshipped Jesus then you're no Muslim as Muslims must only worship Allah which means you will suffer in hell. If you chose to be a Muslim and you worshipped Allah which Christians don't believe in as they believe Jesus is God, you will be sent to hell. 

    All religions are man made and false in my opinion. 

    dolly [2010409]

    Jesus does not say in the Bible he is God or to worship him. 

    KingUzziah [2092518]

    False, Jesus regularly called himself the Son of God (essence), the exact representation of His (God's) being. He did accept worship of humans and in the end the Jews crucified Him because He DID claim to be God.

    dolly [2010409]

    Produce your proof if you are truthful 

    Youre so deluded its funny at this point. Hey how about this, If your Allah gave a **** why doesnt he just come down and tell us which religious book is the right one? He is purposefully sending christians, jews, hindus, non religious and all the other religions people believe in to hell for worshipping false Gods. 

    But of course your Allah doesnt even care to do something about starving children, children being raped and babies born with mental and physical disabilities so he should start from there first.

    Colorless green ideas sleep furiously

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    KingUzziah [2092518]

    At first I was going to like Timy's post then I thought better of it. Christianity as a religion is a religion and so is Islam and so is Taoism. To say that Christianity is the only true religion is a little narrow minded. If you were to say that there is one true God and the Christian faith was founded by that God, I would agree more readily. One of the major problems of Christianity is that it is all too often a religion and not a lifestyle and so is self contradicting. The religion of Christianity in its modern form is not necessary to the world. Now to address the above quote. How can you follow Islam and Christianity? They are at the core vastly different and adherents to Islam think that Christians are their greatest enemies. If you follow both, you will have to behead yourself.

    dolly [2010409]

    Hello there.

    I hope this answers your question:

    Christians and Muslims both believe in One God, The same God. "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for Almighty God. Allah is also the same word that Arabic speaking Christians and Jews use to refer to God. We both believe in the same prophets Moses, David, Noah etc. Muslims also believe the original Bible to be holy scripture.

    Fundamentally, both religions are the same. 

    The main difference is Christians believe Jesus to be the son of God. Whereas Muslims believe we are all, including Jesus, children of God (not biological). This is down to interpretation. 

    I definitely do not see Christians as my greatest enemy. My in-laws are not Muslim and a majority of them are Christians and I love them as my family. 

    Therefore I have no problem in accepting both religions and I hope I answered your question. 

    Zauzam [2049144]

    Just so you know in the Bible and in the Quran it says that if you do not worship my God you will suffer in eternal hell. 

    To put it simple if you chose to be a Christian and worshipped Jesus then you're no Muslim as Muslims must only worship Allah which means you will suffer in hell. If you chose to be a Muslim and you worshipped Allah which Christians don't believe in as they believe Jesus is God, you will be sent to hell. 

    All religions are man made and false in my opinion. 

    dolly [2010409]

    Jesus does not say in the Bible he is God or to worship him. 

    KingUzziah [2092518]

    False, Jesus regularly called himself the Son of God (essence), the exact representation of His (God's) being. He did accept worship of humans and in the end the Jews crucified Him because He DID claim to be God.

    dolly [2010409]

    Produce your proof if you are truthful 

    "'If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him." John 14:7 - Jesus said if you have seen me you have seen God, meaning we are the same being. 

    "I and the Father are one." John 10:30 - Jesus says He is in one being with God.

    We are not stoning you for any good work, they replied, but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God. John 10:33 - If He never claimed to be God, Why would they kill Him for claiming to be God?

    Proof positive, Jesus claimed to be God.

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    dolly [2010409]

    Hello there.

    I hope this answers your question:

    Christians and Muslims both believe in One God, The same God. "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for Almighty God. Allah is also the same word that Arabic speaking Christians and Jews use to refer to God. We both believe in the same prophets Moses, David, Noah etc. Muslims also believe the original Bible to be holy scripture.

    Fundamentally, both religions are the same. 

    The main difference is Christians believe Jesus to be the son of God. Whereas Muslims believe we are all, including Jesus, children of God (not biological). This is down to interpretation. 

    I definitely do not see Christians as my greatest enemy. My in-laws are not Muslim and a majority of them are Christians and I love them as my family. 

    Therefore I have no problem in accepting both religions and I hope I answered your question. 

    Zauzam [2049144]

    Just so you know in the Bible and in the Quran it says that if you do not worship my God you will suffer in eternal hell. 

    To put it simple if you chose to be a Christian and worshipped Jesus then you're no Muslim as Muslims must only worship Allah which means you will suffer in hell. If you chose to be a Muslim and you worshipped Allah which Christians don't believe in as they believe Jesus is God, you will be sent to hell. 

    All religions are man made and false in my opinion. 

    dolly [2010409]

    Jesus does not say in the Bible he is God or to worship him. 

    KingUzziah [2092518]

    False, Jesus regularly called himself the Son of God (essence), the exact representation of His (God's) being. He did accept worship of humans and in the end the Jews crucified Him because He DID claim to be God.

    dolly [2010409]

    Produce your proof if you are truthful 

    KingUzziah [2092518]

    "'If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him." John 14:7 - Jesus said if you have seen me you have seen God, meaning we are the same being. 

    "I and the Father are one." John 10:30 - Jesus says He is in one being with God.

    We are not stoning you for any good work, they replied, but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God. John 10:33 - If He never claimed to be God, Why would they kill Him for claiming to be God?

    Proof positive, Jesus claimed to be God.

    None of these are Jesus claiming divinity. 

    If u read the verses in context :

    John 10:36 "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?"

    Ie he's not God he's the son of God. Not begotten. 

    John 29 "My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all."

    Ie greater than him.  He is not on par God.

     "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." John 5:30

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    so its established that Jesus is not a prophet but a Messiah.

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    Zauzam [2049144]

    Just so you know in the Bible and in the Quran it says that if you do not worship my God you will suffer in eternal hell. 

    To put it simple if you chose to be a Christian and worshipped Jesus then you're no Muslim as Muslims must only worship Allah which means you will suffer in hell. If you chose to be a Muslim and you worshipped Allah which Christians don't believe in as they believe Jesus is God, you will be sent to hell. 

    All religions are man made and false in my opinion. 

    dolly [2010409]

    Jesus does not say in the Bible he is God or to worship him. 

    KingUzziah [2092518]

    False, Jesus regularly called himself the Son of God (essence), the exact representation of His (God's) being. He did accept worship of humans and in the end the Jews crucified Him because He DID claim to be God.

    dolly [2010409]

    Produce your proof if you are truthful 

    KingUzziah [2092518]

    "'If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him." John 14:7 - Jesus said if you have seen me you have seen God, meaning we are the same being. 

    "I and the Father are one." John 10:30 - Jesus says He is in one being with God.

    We are not stoning you for any good work, they replied, but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God. John 10:33 - If He never claimed to be God, Why would they kill Him for claiming to be God?

    Proof positive, Jesus claimed to be God.

    dolly [2010409]

    None of these are Jesus claiming divinity. 

    If u read the verses in context :

    John 10:36 "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?"

    Ie he's not God he's the son of God. Not begotten. 

    John 29 "My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all."

    Ie greater than him.  He is not on par God.

     "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." John 5:30

    Hey dolly, I am not sure why you use a bad translation for your "evidence". I also wonder where you learned how to interpret ancient texts? Modern people cannot put our own interpretations on ancient texts. We have to learn what the people of the time meant and understood.  When Jesus says He is the Son of God, He IS claiming deity. You cant fully understand from a modern view so we have to study jewish literature to better understand their terminology.  Can you answer the question? If He didn't claim deity why did they verbally say that is exactly why they crucified Him?  Another important note is that Jesus knew He would be crucified for saying He was God and so He had to be careful how He said it and who He said it to. He had to fulfill His purpose before He was killed. If He stood up as a 20 year old jew and claimed deity, He would have been killed on the spot, we cant expect Him to overtly say "I am God" because it makes jews angry enough to kill.

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    Just so you know in the Bible and in the Quran it says that if you do not worship my God you will suffer in eternal hell. 

    To put it simple if you chose to be a Christian and worshipped Jesus then you're no Muslim as Muslims must only worship Allah which means you will suffer in hell. If you chose to be a Muslim and you worshipped Allah which Christians don't believe in as they believe Jesus is God, you will be sent to hell. 

    All religions are man made and false in my opinion. 

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    Jesus does not say in the Bible he is God or to worship him. 

    KingUzziah [2092518]

    False, Jesus regularly called himself the Son of God (essence), the exact representation of His (God's) being. He did accept worship of humans and in the end the Jews crucified Him because He DID claim to be God.

    dolly [2010409]

    Produce your proof if you are truthful 

    KingUzziah [2092518]

    "'If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him." John 14:7 - Jesus said if you have seen me you have seen God, meaning we are the same being. 

    "I and the Father are one." John 10:30 - Jesus says He is in one being with God.

    We are not stoning you for any good work, they replied, but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God. John 10:33 - If He never claimed to be God, Why would they kill Him for claiming to be God?

    Proof positive, Jesus claimed to be God.

    dolly [2010409]

    None of these are Jesus claiming divinity. 

    If u read the verses in context :

    John 10:36 "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?"

    Ie he's not God he's the son of God. Not begotten. 

    John 29 "My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all."

    Ie greater than him.  He is not on par God.

     "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." John 5:30

    The bible definitly says that Jesus is God.

    Even before he was born it was said: "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called: Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." (Isaiah 9, 6)

    And if you follow the vers in John 10, it states: "My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Fathers hand. I and the Father are one. (John 10, 29-30)

    This refers to the doctrine of the trinity, stating that God is one God in three parts: God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit.

    Further explanation, though that was after Jesus:

    "In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus: Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death even death on a cross!" (Philippians 2, 5-8)

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    Sounds a bit gender racist 

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    what sounds gender racist? (gender discriminatory? is that the word? Gender racist isn't right, gender biased?)