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    Thread created on 07:05:17 - 15/09/22 (4 months ago)
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    That white holes and black holes might be the next travel opportunity?? For space travel, if we somehow manage to control the force between the black hole and white jole it might become the mext stage  for travelling through space? Might be, i just wish i could live long enough to see space travell dont you think??
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    Posted on 07:07:07 - 15/09/22 (4 months ago)
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    Posted on 07:19:32 - 15/09/22 (4 months ago)
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    Posted on 07:20:50 - 15/09/22 (4 months ago)
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    god created cats so you can kiss their little forehead.uLRzk.png

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    Posted on 07:23:17 - 15/09/22 (4 months ago)
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    Posted on 07:26:13 - 15/09/22 (4 months ago)
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    Posted on 07:28:09 - 15/09/22 (4 months ago)
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    Good idea for a thread best put it in the none related forums. 

    2 things I want to be far away from black holes.
    And really far if a human tries to control one.

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    Posted on 07:32:18 - 15/09/22 (4 months ago)
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    Posted on 07:32:30 - 15/09/22 (4 months ago)
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    Whiteholes aren't even a thing though. Sure, they appear in some theoretical theories, but we have never witnessed anything in reality that would lead us to believe they're real, and they fall afoul of the "energy can be neither created no destroyed" thing... Where would all that light/matter come from if not created? Some people hand-wave and say "they are connected to black holes and the matter comes from there!" but that would imply that white/black hole twins are wormholes, which again, we have no reason to believe exist.

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    Posted on 07:34:01 - 15/09/22 (4 months ago)
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    Make your joke you pussy.
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    Posted on 07:37:29 - 15/09/22 (4 months ago)
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    The joke is that his combo doesn't work. A right straight into a right uppercut? Err... okay, I guess. o.O
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    Posted on 07:40:13 - 15/09/22 (4 months ago)
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    This is among the weirdest thing I've ever read here, so let me help you.

    No.

    But maybe you like it when it lasts more, so I'll explain better. A black hole is a specific solution to Einstein's equations of relativity which implies that anything which goes in it will never get out. A white hole is a mathematical concept which explains the opposite, a zone where everything which is inside is forced outside and will never get out.

    First of all, if everything happened like you said, you would be crushed in the densest material existing in the universe before being rejected by the white hole, and this is very bad for your skin.

    Then, it is not sure that a black hole is connected to a white hole at all. All of those observed in the universe seem to keep their mass, which mean they do not send anything anywhere. They just eat and destroy.

    Then again, this is a purely mathematical concept. Maybe the theory could concieve it, but there is nothing in the real universe that could then create it. So maybe the equations are right, but the real universe just use some part of them.

    Which leads to my final point : the equations might be wrong ! There are a HUGE quantity of events in the universe unexplained by the relativity.

    Now if you read until now, there is a promising experiment where the center of relativity and interstellar measure of elements will send probes in the near future. You can look at "CRIME 2.0" for more information.
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    Posted on 07:40:13 - 15/09/22 (4 months ago)
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    Whiteholes aren't even a thing though. Sure, they appear in some theoretical theories, but we have never witnessed anything in reality that would lead us to believe they're real, and they fall afoul of the "energy can be neither created no destroyed" thing... Where would all that light/matter come from if not created? Some people hand-wave and say "they are connected to black holes and the matter comes from there!" but that would imply that white/black hole twins are wormholes, which again, we have no reason to believe exist.

    Might exist in the other dimensions of string theory or within the black hole itself what happens to the stuff that goes in must do something or become something because can't destroy or create.

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    Posted on 07:41:51 - 15/09/22 (4 months ago)
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    Aezur [1950769]

    Whiteholes aren't even a thing though. Sure, they appear in some theoretical theories, but we have never witnessed anything in reality that would lead us to believe they're real, and they fall afoul of the "energy can be neither created no destroyed" thing... Where would all that light/matter come from if not created? Some people hand-wave and say "they are connected to black holes and the matter comes from there!" but that would imply that white/black hole twins are wormholes, which again, we have no reason to believe exist.

    5wan [2740387]

    Might exist in the other dimensions of string theory or within the black hole itself what happens to the stuff that goes in must do something or become something because can't destroy or create.
    The matter in a black hole isn't destroyed though, that's what causes the black hole. If it were, the black hole would dissipate as soon as it was formed.
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    Posted on 07:43:09 - 15/09/22 (4 months ago)
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    Aezur [1950769]

    Whiteholes aren't even a thing though. Sure, they appear in some theoretical theories, but we have never witnessed anything in reality that would lead us to believe they're real, and they fall afoul of the "energy can be neither created no destroyed" thing... Where would all that light/matter come from if not created? Some people hand-wave and say "they are connected to black holes and the matter comes from there!" but that would imply that white/black hole twins are wormholes, which again, we have no reason to believe exist.

    5wan [2740387]

    Might exist in the other dimensions of string theory or within the black hole itself what happens to the stuff that goes in must do something or become something because can't destroy or create.

    Aezur [1950769]

    The matter in a black hole isn't destroyed though, that's what causes the black hole. If it were, the black hole would dissipate as soon as it was formed.
    So what's it doing there all scrunched up? 
    Some big memory bank ?

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    Posted on 07:46:24 - 15/09/22 (4 months ago)
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    No need, your mum did a perfect job for me... lol
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    Aezur [1950769]

    Whiteholes aren't even a thing though. Sure, they appear in some theoretical theories, but we have never witnessed anything in reality that would lead us to believe they're real, and they fall afoul of the "energy can be neither created no destroyed" thing... Where would all that light/matter come from if not created? Some people hand-wave and say "they are connected to black holes and the matter comes from there!" but that would imply that white/black hole twins are wormholes, which again, we have no reason to believe exist.

    5wan [2740387]

    Might exist in the other dimensions of string theory or within the black hole itself what happens to the stuff that goes in must do something or become something because can't destroy or create.

    Aezur [1950769]

    The matter in a black hole isn't destroyed though, that's what causes the black hole. If it were, the black hole would dissipate as soon as it was formed.

    5wan [2740387]

    So what's it doing there all scrunched up?
    Some big memory bank ?
    Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm not sure you understand what a black hole is. Like... what would cause the gravity if not the mass? Read Steven Hawking's "A brief history of space and time". It's a good book, and explains it pretty well. You do need to sit and stare at a wall after each chapter so your brain doesn't melt though. :P

    The reason black holes can exist under the 3rd law and white holes can't is like... imagine a box. You know intuitively that you can put shit in that box. But if random shit starts appearing and flying out of that box, you're gonna have questions.
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    Posted on 07:53:00 - 15/09/22 (4 months ago)
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    Aezur [1950769]

    Whiteholes aren't even a thing though. Sure, they appear in some theoretical theories, but we have never witnessed anything in reality that would lead us to believe they're real, and they fall afoul of the "energy can be neither created no destroyed" thing... Where would all that light/matter come from if not created? Some people hand-wave and say "they are connected to black holes and the matter comes from there!" but that would imply that white/black hole twins are wormholes, which again, we have no reason to believe exist.

    5wan [2740387]

    Might exist in the other dimensions of string theory or within the black hole itself what happens to the stuff that goes in must do something or become something because can't destroy or create.

    Aezur [1950769]

    The matter in a black hole isn't destroyed though, that's what causes the black hole. If it were, the black hole would dissipate as soon as it was formed.

    5wan [2740387]

    So what's it doing there all scrunched up?
    Some big memory bank ?

    Aezur [1950769]

    Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm not sure you understand what a black hole is. Like... what would cause the gravity if not the mass? Read Steven Hawking's "A brief history of space and time". It's a good book, and explains it pretty well. You do need to sit and stare at a wall after each chapter so your brain doesn't melt though. :P

    The reason black holes can exist under the 3rd law and white holes can't is like... imagine a box. You know intuitively that you can put shit in that box. But if random shit starts appearing and flying out of that box, you're gonna have questions.
    One of the first books I read cover to cover (I hate the books I had to read at school) .  Amazing and mind blowing.  My Physics teacher couldn't keep up with my questions...
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    Posted on 08:25:33 - 15/09/22 (4 months ago)
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    I’ll move this to Science forum. - Smokey


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