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    No, you're right, we should listen to retards like you when making decisions that may effect all of humanity. That makes perfect sense.
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    Lewri [1762864]

    Really? My funding comes from the Lizard People, they make me and the tens of thousands of physics students each year fake experiments "proving" that the Earth is "round".

    Hamr [2027992]

    Oh that's a load of baloney. The flat earthers have got it all wrong, the flat earth narrative is a red herring to disguise the real problem.

    You see, the Earth is round. We know this from massively distributed measurements and activities that only work if it is round.

    We also know all planets and comparable bodies are round, because we can see them via telescopes.

    We, therefore, are all led to assume one thing.

    That the moon, too, is round. This is not the case.

    You see, the moon is actually not round. It is a prop. Either a super-large flat disc in orbit around earth, or a hologram projected onto the Earth's atmosphere, or an animated sprite that makes up the fiction of our matrix-verse. Whatever the case, it can only be that the moon is flat.

    Why, you ask. It is all to hide why there are no alien signals from space, to hide from us a critical component about the Fermi Paradox. Scientists have long been drawn to the conclusion that the tidal forces from the moon may have been instrumental in the formation of Earth and life upon it, and when we see Earth-like planets with no such influence we, naturally, have an explanation as to why there is no life out there.

    Aliens do not come from above, they are either part of Earth already, or have been inserted by the matrix.

    All this flat-earth nonsense is just an intellectual distraction, a layer of camouflage upon the whole industry of science. The truth is out there, looking back at us.

     

    Evidence:

    - There is no opposite side of the moon, it cannot be seen from earth, and is never reliably photographed

    - NASA only ever "landed" on the visible part of the moon

    - NASA proved they landed there by attaching mirrors to the surface to reflect back lasers (easily faked on a flat moon)

    - There is nothing stopping a hologram or matrix making an animated sprite that goes through the phases of the moon

    - No normal person will ever set foot on the moon

    - Space programmes are intentionally delayed so we don't find this out, we could have worked on this since the late 60s, but we didn't

    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    Thumbs up for creative writing, lol.

    Hamr [2027992]

    Ty, but those images are so easy to fake, it's laughable.

    To those in the know, this is like showing a blurry picture of bigfoot to a skeptic.

    PopadaPill [900338]

    Ooo whats he gonna say,I normally get the dad talk from steve after writing something similar 

    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    I already said it... nice creative writing. 

    Believe whatever you want, but don't cry when all the other kids make fun of you for being a complete meathead.

    Dad talk done.
    Wow

    Someone actually dumb enough to think that:

    a) I was serious

    b) that the provided evidence would convince anyone

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    Posted on 18:11:20 - 17/10/18 (5 years ago)
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    Hamr [2027992]

    Oh that's a load of baloney. The flat earthers have got it all wrong, the flat earth narrative is a red herring to disguise the real problem.

    You see, the Earth is round. We know this from massively distributed measurements and activities that only work if it is round.

    We also know all planets and comparable bodies are round, because we can see them via telescopes.

    We, therefore, are all led to assume one thing.

    That the moon, too, is round. This is not the case.

    You see, the moon is actually not round. It is a prop. Either a super-large flat disc in orbit around earth, or a hologram projected onto the Earth's atmosphere, or an animated sprite that makes up the fiction of our matrix-verse. Whatever the case, it can only be that the moon is flat.

    Why, you ask. It is all to hide why there are no alien signals from space, to hide from us a critical component about the Fermi Paradox. Scientists have long been drawn to the conclusion that the tidal forces from the moon may have been instrumental in the formation of Earth and life upon it, and when we see Earth-like planets with no such influence we, naturally, have an explanation as to why there is no life out there.

    Aliens do not come from above, they are either part of Earth already, or have been inserted by the matrix.

    All this flat-earth nonsense is just an intellectual distraction, a layer of camouflage upon the whole industry of science. The truth is out there, looking back at us.

     

    Evidence:

    - There is no opposite side of the moon, it cannot be seen from earth, and is never reliably photographed

    - NASA only ever "landed" on the visible part of the moon

    - NASA proved they landed there by attaching mirrors to the surface to reflect back lasers (easily faked on a flat moon)

    - There is nothing stopping a hologram or matrix making an animated sprite that goes through the phases of the moon

    - No normal person will ever set foot on the moon

    - Space programmes are intentionally delayed so we don't find this out, we could have worked on this since the late 60s, but we didn't

    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    Thumbs up for creative writing, lol.

    Hamr [2027992]

    Ty, but those images are so easy to fake, it's laughable.

    To those in the know, this is like showing a blurry picture of bigfoot to a skeptic.

    PopadaPill [900338]

    Ooo whats he gonna say,I normally get the dad talk from steve after writing something similar 

    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    I already said it... nice creative writing. 

    Believe whatever you want, but don't cry when all the other kids make fun of you for being a complete meathead.

    Dad talk done.

    Hamr [2027992]

    Wow

    Someone actually dumb enough to think that:

    a) I was serious

    b) that the provided evidence would convince anyone
    Wow, someone dumb enough to believe that what he or she calls evidence is anything but...

    You believe in a race of giants who once lived on earth too, and that the Jews are responsible for everything bad that ever happened, and that Irish people built the Pyramids?

    If so, you and Popa should get along nicely. You guys could team up with Candymonster, and tell stories.

    The moon is round. Period. It isn't a flat coin shaped object up in space. If you honestly believe that then you should go in for a check up from the neck up.

    On topic: 

    I agree with the OP's basic premise... Science can be abused... has been abused... should not be believed simply because it is reported as fact, until such time as there is a consensus, and even then it is open to debate and revision and refinement.
    Last edited by MachineGunSteve on 18:24:44 - 17/10/18

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    Posted on 18:19:45 - 17/10/18 (5 years ago)
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    Kleb [2016895]

    No, you're right, we should listen to retards like you when making decisions that may effect all of humanity. That makes perfect sense.
    If you reread, instead of being ultra mature and hurling insults...we need to use our critical thinking skills, research for our selfs, educate our selfs, use intuition and most importantly stop being a sheeple and take everything an authority figure is true. 

     

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    Posted on 18:24:38 - 17/10/18 (5 years ago)
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    I would not rule out giant race of humanoids have been on earth, most people don't blame Jews they blame the zionists and there is no way humans(Us) built the pyramids. First rule of finding the truth is never fully buying in to controversy.

     

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    Posted on 18:26:11 - 17/10/18 (5 years ago)
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    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    Thumbs up for creative writing, lol.

    Hamr [2027992]

    Ty, but those images are so easy to fake, it's laughable.

    To those in the know, this is like showing a blurry picture of bigfoot to a skeptic.

    PopadaPill [900338]

    Ooo whats he gonna say,I normally get the dad talk from steve after writing something similar 

    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    I already said it... nice creative writing. 

    Believe whatever you want, but don't cry when all the other kids make fun of you for being a complete meathead.

    Dad talk done.

    Hamr [2027992]

    Wow

    Someone actually dumb enough to think that:

    a) I was serious

    b) that the provided evidence would convince anyone

    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    Wow, someone dumb enough to believe that what he or she calls evidence is anything but...

    You believe in a race of giants who once lived on earth too, and that the Jews are responsible for everything bad that ever happened, and that Irish people built the Pyramids?

    If so, you and Popa should get along nicely. You guys could team up with Candymonster, and tell stories.

    The moon is round. Period. It isn't a flat coin shaped object up in space. If you honestly believe that then you should go in for a check up from the neck up.

    On topic: 

    I agree with the OP's basic premise... Science can be abused... has been abused... should not be believed simply because it is reported as fact, until such time as there is a consensus, and even then it is open to debate and revision and refinement.
    Dear god, did you actually read my post?

    If what I wrote is to you a convincing argument in favour of a flat moon, you need help.

    Let's break a few things down from your post before you actually apply this level of stupid in real life:

    - If one person holds one belief you feel is stupid, that does not mean they hold all other beliefs you think are stupid

    - Photos, while counting as evidence, are rarely conclusive and are easily faked

    - If you read what I wrote, I actually said I don't believe the moon is flat

    - People write things on the internet as satire sometimes, just for fun

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    Posted on 18:29:25 - 17/10/18 (5 years ago)
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    I would not rule out giant race of humanoids have been on earth, most people don't blame Jews they blame the zionists and there is no way humans(Us) built the pyramids. First rule of finding the truth is never fully buying in to controversy.
    Show me a bone in any museum on earth that suggests there was a race of giant humanoids that were not simply larger than their peers, and I will believe also.

    There are plenty of people who have blamed Jewish people for everything bad that has ever happened, and some of them play this game.

    Until such time as their is credible evidence to suggest that someone other than human beings of Egyptian origin built the pyramids, I am going to go with the evidence that we currently have on the subject. I wasn't there, so I don't know for sure, but my gut tells me that it wasn't space men.
    Last edited by MachineGunSteve on 18:34:37 - 17/10/18

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    Just like Religion, both used by the Cabal to control you for their power.

     

    The general nature of your statement renders it invalid. Scientists are a mixed bag. Many of them have been co-opted by pharma or the military; others are working hard to illuminate dark recesses of the universe, or to bring relief to people with diseases. There are definitely problems with aspects of science such as peer review, but if you want to discuss problems you'll need to be specific and detailed.

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    Posted on 18:33:39 - 17/10/18 (5 years ago)
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    Hamr [2027992]

    Ty, but those images are so easy to fake, it's laughable.

    To those in the know, this is like showing a blurry picture of bigfoot to a skeptic.

    PopadaPill [900338]

    Ooo whats he gonna say,I normally get the dad talk from steve after writing something similar 

    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    I already said it... nice creative writing. 

    Believe whatever you want, but don't cry when all the other kids make fun of you for being a complete meathead.

    Dad talk done.

    Hamr [2027992]

    Wow

    Someone actually dumb enough to think that:

    a) I was serious

    b) that the provided evidence would convince anyone

    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    Wow, someone dumb enough to believe that what he or she calls evidence is anything but...

    You believe in a race of giants who once lived on earth too, and that the Jews are responsible for everything bad that ever happened, and that Irish people built the Pyramids?

    If so, you and Popa should get along nicely. You guys could team up with Candymonster, and tell stories.

    The moon is round. Period. It isn't a flat coin shaped object up in space. If you honestly believe that then you should go in for a check up from the neck up.

    On topic: 

    I agree with the OP's basic premise... Science can be abused... has been abused... should not be believed simply because it is reported as fact, until such time as there is a consensus, and even then it is open to debate and revision and refinement.

    Hamr [2027992]

    Dear god, did you actually read my post?

    If what I wrote is to you a convincing argument in favour of a flat moon, you need help.

    Let's break a few things down from your post before you actually apply this level of stupid in real life:

    - If one person holds one belief you feel is stupid, that does not mean they hold all other beliefs you think are stupid

    - Photos, while counting as evidence, are rarely conclusive and are easily faked

    - If you read what I wrote, I actually said I don't believe the moon is flat

    - People write things on the internet as satire sometimes, just for fun
    The way you write is so convoluted that I have no idea what you believe... you say one thing at one time, and then you say another thing in another post.

    I am relieved to hear that you don't believe in a flat moon. 

    My bad if I misread your meaning... 

    The first time I figured you were being funny, but then your follow up confused me... my bad. Carry on.

    Earth Mother, Ganesha, Ra, Zeus, Jupiter, Mithra, Jesus, Allah,... GOD...  and the Internet God of conspiracies... I beg you:

     

    Please protect me from your followers.

     

     

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    Posted on 18:38:45 - 17/10/18 (5 years ago)
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    Lewri [1762864]

    Really? My funding comes from the Lizard People, they make me and the tens of thousands of physics students each year fake experiments "proving" that the Earth is "round".

    Hamr [2027992]

    Oh that's a load of baloney. The flat earthers have got it all wrong, the flat earth narrative is a red herring to disguise the real problem.

    You see, the Earth is round. We know this from massively distributed measurements and activities that only work if it is round.

    We also know all planets and comparable bodies are round, because we can see them via telescopes.

    We, therefore, are all led to assume one thing.

    That the moon, too, is round. This is not the case.

    You see, the moon is actually not round. It is a prop. Either a super-large flat disc in orbit around earth, or a hologram projected onto the Earth's atmosphere, or an animated sprite that makes up the fiction of our matrix-verse. Whatever the case, it can only be that the moon is flat.

    Why, you ask. It is all to hide why there are no alien signals from space, to hide from us a critical component about the Fermi Paradox. Scientists have long been drawn to the conclusion that the tidal forces from the moon may have been instrumental in the formation of Earth and life upon it, and when we see Earth-like planets with no such influence we, naturally, have an explanation as to why there is no life out there.

    Aliens do not come from above, they are either part of Earth already, or have been inserted by the matrix.

    All this flat-earth nonsense is just an intellectual distraction, a layer of camouflage upon the whole industry of science. The truth is out there, looking back at us.

     

    Evidence:

    - There is no opposite side of the moon, it cannot be seen from earth, and is never reliably photographed

    - NASA only ever "landed" on the visible part of the moon

    - NASA proved they landed there by attaching mirrors to the surface to reflect back lasers (easily faked on a flat moon)

    - There is nothing stopping a hologram or matrix making an animated sprite that goes through the phases of the moon

    - No normal person will ever set foot on the moon

    - Space programmes are intentionally delayed so we don't find this out, we could have worked on this since the late 60s, but we didn't

    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    Thumbs up for creative writing, lol.

    Hamr [2027992]

    Ty, but those images are so easy to fake, it's laughable.

    To those in the know, this is like showing a blurry picture of bigfoot to a skeptic.

    PopadaPill [900338]

    Ooo whats he gonna say,I normally get the dad talk from steve after writing something similar 

    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    I already said it... nice creative writing. 

    Believe whatever you want, but don't cry when all the other kids make fun of you for being a complete meathead.

    Dad talk done.
    You seem to cry all the time because people dont go with the crap you do.

    Why not make someone a thread in here because they dont believe same shite you do...get pissy again 
    Last edited by PopadaPill on 18:40:57 - 17/10/18
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    Posted on 18:39:07 - 17/10/18 (5 years ago)
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    double post
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    PopadaPill [900338]

    Ooo whats he gonna say,I normally get the dad talk from steve after writing something similar 

    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    I already said it... nice creative writing. 

    Believe whatever you want, but don't cry when all the other kids make fun of you for being a complete meathead.

    Dad talk done.

    Hamr [2027992]

    Wow

    Someone actually dumb enough to think that:

    a) I was serious

    b) that the provided evidence would convince anyone

    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    Wow, someone dumb enough to believe that what he or she calls evidence is anything but...

    You believe in a race of giants who once lived on earth too, and that the Jews are responsible for everything bad that ever happened, and that Irish people built the Pyramids?

    If so, you and Popa should get along nicely. You guys could team up with Candymonster, and tell stories.

    The moon is round. Period. It isn't a flat coin shaped object up in space. If you honestly believe that then you should go in for a check up from the neck up.

    On topic: 

    I agree with the OP's basic premise... Science can be abused... has been abused... should not be believed simply because it is reported as fact, until such time as there is a consensus, and even then it is open to debate and revision and refinement.

    Hamr [2027992]

    Dear god, did you actually read my post?

    If what I wrote is to you a convincing argument in favour of a flat moon, you need help.

    Let's break a few things down from your post before you actually apply this level of stupid in real life:

    - If one person holds one belief you feel is stupid, that does not mean they hold all other beliefs you think are stupid

    - Photos, while counting as evidence, are rarely conclusive and are easily faked

    - If you read what I wrote, I actually said I don't believe the moon is flat

    - People write things on the internet as satire sometimes, just for fun

    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    The way you write is so convoluted that I have no idea what you believe... you say one thing at one time, and then you say another thing in another post.

    I am relieved to hear that you don't believe in a flat moon. 

    My bad if I misread your meaning... 

    The first time I figured you were being funny, but then your follow up confused me... my bad. Carry on.
    Tbf, I could have been clearer, but I thought it would be humorous to try to bait a few more people before kicking the moon thing under the table.

    Had to invent the moon theory for a game called "Conspiracy X", it's quite funny watching the other players fail to disprove the theory.

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    Posted on 18:40:45 - 17/10/18 (5 years ago)
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    LawOfOne [266775]

    I would not rule out giant race of humanoids have been on earth, most people don't blame Jews they blame the zionists and there is no way humans(Us) built the pyramids. First rule of finding the truth is never fully buying in to controversy.

    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    Show me a bone in any museum on earth that suggests there was a race of giant humanoids that were not simply larger than their peers, and I will believe also.

    There are plenty of people who have blamed Jewish people for everything bad that has ever happened, and some of them play this game.

    Until such time as their is credible evidence to suggest that someone other than human beings of Egyptian origin built the pyramids, I am going to go with the evidence that we currently have on the subject. I wasn't there, so I don't know for sure, but my gut tells me that it wasn't space men.
    I would not rule it out doesn't mean I think it's true. It would be easy to hide and easy to fake, I would prefer to keep an open mind but I don't have a dog in the race.

    Nazis, skin heads and confused and angry teenagers aren't good examples are they?

    The problems building them far outweigh what we know to be true about how they were built. Siding that humans automatically built them is not a route I want to take.
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    LawOfOne [266775]

    Just like Religion, both used by the Cabal to control you for their power.

     

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    The general nature of your statement renders it invalid. Scientists are a mixed bag. Many of them have been co-opted by pharma or the military; others are working hard to illuminate dark recesses of the universe, or to bring relief to people with diseases. There are definitely problems with aspects of science such as peer review, but if you want to discuss problems you'll need to be specific and detailed.
    The problem is programming the public and Dogma

     

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    Hamr [2027992]

    Oh that's a load of baloney. The flat earthers have got it all wrong, the flat earth narrative is a red herring to disguise the real problem.

    You see, the Earth is round. We know this from massively distributed measurements and activities that only work if it is round.

    We also know all planets and comparable bodies are round, because we can see them via telescopes.

    We, therefore, are all led to assume one thing.

    That the moon, too, is round. This is not the case.

    You see, the moon is actually not round. It is a prop. Either a super-large flat disc in orbit around earth, or a hologram projected onto the Earth's atmosphere, or an animated sprite that makes up the fiction of our matrix-verse. Whatever the case, it can only be that the moon is flat.

    Why, you ask. It is all to hide why there are no alien signals from space, to hide from us a critical component about the Fermi Paradox. Scientists have long been drawn to the conclusion that the tidal forces from the moon may have been instrumental in the formation of Earth and life upon it, and when we see Earth-like planets with no such influence we, naturally, have an explanation as to why there is no life out there.

    Aliens do not come from above, they are either part of Earth already, or have been inserted by the matrix.

    All this flat-earth nonsense is just an intellectual distraction, a layer of camouflage upon the whole industry of science. The truth is out there, looking back at us.

     

    Evidence:

    - There is no opposite side of the moon, it cannot be seen from earth, and is never reliably photographed

    - NASA only ever "landed" on the visible part of the moon

    - NASA proved they landed there by attaching mirrors to the surface to reflect back lasers (easily faked on a flat moon)

    - There is nothing stopping a hologram or matrix making an animated sprite that goes through the phases of the moon

    - No normal person will ever set foot on the moon

    - Space programmes are intentionally delayed so we don't find this out, we could have worked on this since the late 60s, but we didn't

    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    Thumbs up for creative writing, lol.

    Hamr [2027992]

    Ty, but those images are so easy to fake, it's laughable.

    To those in the know, this is like showing a blurry picture of bigfoot to a skeptic.

    PopadaPill [900338]

    Ooo whats he gonna say,I normally get the dad talk from steve after writing something similar 

    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    I already said it... nice creative writing. 

    Believe whatever you want, but don't cry when all the other kids make fun of you for being a complete meathead.

    Dad talk done.

    PopadaPill [900338]

    You seem to cry all the time because people dont go with the crap you do.

    Why not make someone a thread in here because they dont believe same shite you do...get pissy again 
    I already made you a thread, Popa. You cry all the time about it, and then you accuse me of crying. The irony.

    Earth Mother, Ganesha, Ra, Zeus, Jupiter, Mithra, Jesus, Allah,... GOD...  and the Internet God of conspiracies... I beg you:

     

    Please protect me from your followers.

     

     

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    Posted on 18:44:37 - 17/10/18 (5 years ago)
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    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    Thumbs up for creative writing, lol.

    Hamr [2027992]

    Ty, but those images are so easy to fake, it's laughable.

    To those in the know, this is like showing a blurry picture of bigfoot to a skeptic.

    PopadaPill [900338]

    Ooo whats he gonna say,I normally get the dad talk from steve after writing something similar 

    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    I already said it... nice creative writing. 

    Believe whatever you want, but don't cry when all the other kids make fun of you for being a complete meathead.

    Dad talk done.

    PopadaPill [900338]

    You seem to cry all the time because people dont go with the crap you do.

    Why not make someone a thread in here because they dont believe same shite you do...get pissy again 

    MachineGunSteve [184119]

    I already made you a thread, Popa. You cry all the time about it, and then you accuse me of crying. The irony.
    Hey now,Why are you listening to them voices in your gut?You loony

     

    'Have at it Popa. This is your spot now, so you can post all the Twitter, and Facebook, and other pretty pictures you like to try and force down our throats. You post here, so some of us who choose to can ignore you.'

    You couldnt even do that could you steve,You couldnt ignore me if your fat life depended on it.
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    I would not rule out giant race of humanoids have been on earth, most people don't blame Jews they blame the zionists and there is no way humans(Us) built the pyramids. First rule of finding the truth is never fully buying in to controversy.
    lol - ok, we've got another poppa-style tinfoil hatter on our hands. As soon as someone says "there is no way humans built the pyramids" you know you're dealing with a disabled person. As I learned long ago, creationists, flat earthers and other whack jobs are not in it for the debate or the exchange. They are in it to spread their low-IQ memes to other low-IQ people. Arguing with them directly achieves negative results, because to people lacking in critical thinking ability the discussion seems to legitimize the notion that their arguments are worth debating. This is a lesson I learned the hard way in uni - by setting up a debate between zoologists and creationists. There was no debate - how could there be when creationists know nothing about science? And the same goes for the flat earthers, etc. - there is no debate, just hostile argument and the further spread of bad memes.

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    Posted on 18:55:41 - 17/10/18 (5 years ago)
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    The Jr Space cadets love this guy.What a pisser Nasa Nubs believe this shite
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    Posted on 18:59:34 - 17/10/18 (5 years ago)
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    u mean LIGMA?

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    Posted on 19:01:40 - 17/10/18 (5 years ago)
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    Didnt LIGMA infect all mat damons potatoes
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