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The Divine Experiment
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    Thread created on 23:23:11 - 29/09/18 (5 years ago)
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    I've posted in this forum an unsubstantiated belief that Benjamin Franklin was the top scientist in our history. I will now attempt to prove the same, by offering the second stage, or answer to, an experiment designed and implemented, in part, by Franklin himself, though you would never know it from any history or science text, nor even the writings of the period unless, as I have, you went about deducing its existance. I suspect that this experiment is known by the social elite worldwide, and in reality, is the basis of staged wars and and the controlled media and Western politics you watch.

    I have also made an unsubstantiated claim that I am the leader of the Illuminati, the Freemasons, and Skull and Bones. That would take some doing, you might think, but in reality, it only requires completing the trifecta puzzle, explained nearer the end of this post. I started with the premise that life is a logic puzzle, and here's what I came up with:

    This may have started with Constantine, and may go back further. As far as I can tell, however, though I am personally aware of Church history, including the adoption of the Greek concept of the triad into Christianity (First Nicean Council, Constantine himself was against this and considered it a heresy, as did the official liturgy, prior to that time), sale of indulgences, history of paedophilia and homosexuality and so on. That, however, is not my focus, because other historical figures have done that part for me.

    Those historical figures were the American Founding Fathers, not the least of whom being Benjamin Franklin, discoverer of electricity and inventor of the lightening rod. Please bear in mind that they were Deists. It is said that the Washington Monument, inscribed with a single word, "Dei" is, in fact, a Mason symbol. If so, that would be a clue as to what follows.

    One of the problems the Founding Fathers struggled with is the following paradox: Those most fit to rule have no desire, and those who have the desire are the least fit for power.

    They also struggled with financing the Revolution, handled by Benjamin Franklin the Statesman. that story would be too much for this thread, but its worth a read.

    I propose this to be their solution:

    Knowing that freedom inevitably falls to tyranny, and bearing in mind Farnklin's quote along the lines of "He who would sacrifice an essential freedom for temporary security deserves neither freedom nor security." they took the challenge of ensuring the democracy's success to the next level, by combining it with the plight of mankind overall. How would someone who have read the Bible and translations of the Qu'ran (this is an important distinction, because it can only be properly read in Arabic) both resolve the problem of Satan? This is the key to man's evolution. Satan, as a base concept is paradoxically both the most intelligent of the Angels, the Angel of Wisdom (Revelation) and is said to have fallen from grace, hating mankind. Satan's prayers are not heard by god, nor those of the dead, only the prayers of the living.

    The solution, then, was that the Founding Fathers resolved to use secret societies as a means to trick those deemed desirable into giving up their freedom for a group identity. Political parties, and later bureaucracies, labor unions, and so on,. did the same. The only way to properly view the situation is through the eyes of empathy. Consider the following likely scenario:

    A young law student is admitted to Yale University. He is tapped on the shoulder, told to be at a certain place at a certain time for initiation. His family will, perhaps, require it of him. In exchange for their freedom, they may have endured physical or sexual abuse as a means to tear down their sende of individuality before being molded into their new group identity. After the humiliations and initiations are complete. it explained that, while he will become one of the most powerful and influential men in the country, he will also become a mere puppet to an organization meant to destroy democracy until somebody stops it. They hold Geronimo's skull  to see if anyone will do anything about it. The only thing that can be done is to free them. The only way to free them is something you never did, something I'm doing now.

    What if George W. Bush, in fact, *wasn't* an idiot? What if he was, in all actuality, crying out for his freedom, hoping that someone, anyone, might figure it out and free him and Geronimo? Did you see it or take the easy way out and make fun of him? What if your entire view of world politics is wrong, if you only know what you've been told, and little more?

    This brings us to the poor Freemasons. Upon joining the Masons, a leash is put around the neck. They are slaves. They build the pyramid with 1776 inscribed in roman numerals, an unfinished tomb. They are encouraged to be atheists. The irony here is that the Eye of Horus represents Satan watching over the world, whereas the Tomb can only be completed successfully by use of the Stone the Builder refused. I'd hate to be in their shoes, but I can free them by changing the markers, establishing the Galactic Museum!

    Thus, the Illuminati. Their real goal is to illuminate, not deceive. They were a tool that you could have picked up at any time had you solved these puzzles, but instead lazy Internet folks began accusing them rather than trying to be a part of the solution. I wanted to change that.

    Individual freedom in the U.S. was a reaction to the Divine Right of Kings. Both have diminished over the years, Humanity itself may be in danger if no solution is found. This is my best attempt, but please present a better one if you have such a thing!

    By using the latest science, we must recognize the need for emotional intelligence, and in so doing, religious teachings become more relevant and applicable. The Golden Rule probably applies here. Jesus doesn't judge. only God does. Our place is to do good works, and pray for ourselves and others, in the hopes of gaining an improvement by it. so there you have it, that bet is settled. If it is my fate to be the most apt to rule, so be it. At least we don't go through any number of other end-of-the world scenarios I've considered. I'll try to be gentle implementing the New World Order.  That's supposed to be done by the close of 2018, you know.

    This argument, of course, is a form of mainfest destiny. We can discuss it, but there isn't really any evidence available except for the obvious, news stories, veiled references, the rumor mill, and hope. We hope to free good people being forced to do bad things, in an effort to save humanity and preserve freedom. It is staggering to consider that this could be what was referenced by Hofstadter, insofar as breaking the cycle. Most scientists seem to disagree. Rather than argue with the fools, I will do what a respectable scientist does. I have decided to present this Divine Experiment to you, my fellow lovers of Real Science. As an unnatural charged with bringing about the End Times, I decided this would be the best way. I cannot accuse the Industrialists who made our economy the top in the world. I can't blame Rockefeller, the man who gave us the public library, nor can I blame anyone. All we can do is try to take or fathers' sins on our backs and hope it works out. Theology is a harsh mistress.

    If I'm right, I have freed the slaves, and ensured that freedom will ring a little while longer for humankind. I have exemplified the heart of Islam, by placing none before Him, and believeing in the Last Day, and actively trying to make it better rather than ending up  as something like an ape or a pig, or worse. Humanity is all in this together, and all paths lead to the same truths. If I am correct, we have avoided a Revelation scenario, which only a madman would want to bring about.

    If I'm wrong, either nothing happens or I become the Antichrist. I'm not blind in my right eye, so hopefully its not that last thing. These are exciting times in which to live, because science. We owe a lot of it to Benamin Franklin, arguably an adept social scientist well before his time, considering that nobody caught up with him until just now (the chances against my actually doing being astronomical). Good times.

    tl;dr: The Divine Experiment is a societal expression of the Deist belief that the Creator, being perfect in every way, would use the best possible Design for the Creation, and therefore can have no need to intervene. In order to reatin religious freedom, the foundation of all other freedoms (endowed by our Creator certain inalienable rights) this argument would simply have to be deduced by someone who cared enough to present it. In essence, that they are all good people who make mistakes, but its not our place to judge them, only learn from them and pray for their souls. By repeating the argument in 2018, prior to the assigned date of the New World Order, it demonstrates that at least one American stood with them, a Cingular voice. By completing the trifecta I have successfully claimed the title of leader of the Illuminati, the Masons, and Skull and Bones. This will allow for the NWO to be benevolent rather than as a continuation of the unfortunate trend of the poor getting reamed. That is, if things are as I propose. If I'm wrong, I can rightfully blame the wealthy for all the problems in the world, whereas heretofore the reverse has been the case, the wealthy blaming the poor for not freeing them from the grasp of the secret societies. After all, there was a huge concentration of wealth in those days too, and the Americans did not have it.

    This experiment proves or disproves itself, and world events will tell the tale. No further action or explanation required, and that is the beauty of it. For my readers anyway. I might have to do stuff if this is correct. If not, its a fun concept to consider. Discuss.
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    Posted on 09:17:40 - 30/09/18 (5 years ago)
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    *sits down to sup with you.* "I see you already have bread, I brought wine."

    For 'um,baaad 'ol putty tatby 'um.

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    Posted on 20:46:34 - 30/09/18 (5 years ago)
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    I'm not sure how to 'present' this, so here is a gift. *Rolls out a 'read' velvet tounge as a carpet for everyone to ruin their fingers along.*

    Some day there was this player who just wanted to get along-,-little doggy and a house on a prarie.           Life has it's own accordion, some times it sucks and sometimes it blows. Other players just kept pushing buttons like the ones that go through holes.

    This player tied his hand at some keys, he played a harpsichord as it plucked away at some ears that should be bitten by themselves.

    Those who have ears listen tothose that have eyes, See.

    If you made your belief real, then make-believe becomes made-real.

    Thanks for the mint tip, I really needed that. Back to the game now.

    Thanks for the 3 day ban WarDog, sugarvalves can eat your crap and wipe both of your asses with a pillow tag. Maybe then you powers that may be, can find some real newsworthy shit.

    *Rips the tag off a pillow and shoves it down Dukes throat.*/Tag states:''dei in: Whosayswehavetopay." Heh, monument men.

    *Smacks Fujiko in the face with a pillow* "Tag you're it!" Love ya bunches 
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    For 'um,baaad 'ol putty tatby 'um.

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    Posted on 18:35:02 - 10/10/18 (5 years ago)
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    Ardesey_Watzima raises a good question. Why would I write something like this in the science forum of Torn City, of all places? You may not like the explanation, but here it is:

    As best as I can tell, games like this one are a treasure trove of information for social scientists to research. I have been told, in ways that only I would recognise, that my identity is no secret, that my Internet post history is known to at least one interested party and their multis. This does not intimidate me. If anyone wants me dead, come kill me since you know so much.

    I have written about my history with Cingular Wireless a good while back. I didn't give full disclosure back then, but, to the best of my knowledge, I am unique in one respect. Having had a near-death experience as a baby, at 17 years of age a friend from New York City (We'll call her Glenda J) gave me an audio cassette tape of a Buddhist meditation. I got lit af back then, and did the meditiaton, but rather than view a "past life", I stopped the meditation at the beginning of this one.

    Before the strange old man, before the jellyblobs, before the hoober-bloob highway, there was the encounter with what I shall call the "Gatekeeper". I cannot, in retrospect, consider this to be anything short of a conversation between my conscious and unconscious self. It told me that viewing infant memories was its domain, that I should not be able to view them under any circumstance. It simply wasn't allowed. My retort was very simple. I told it that I was entitled to view them, on the basis of my part in the NDE would nessicarily have been the determining factor in our continuing existance. I therefore had as much, if not more, right to review the memory at will.

    The conversation was slow and awkward, as the Gatekeeper did not think in the same way to which I was accustomed. It thinks in sights and sounds, feelings and sensations, with a keen awareness of other life surrounding it. I was shown things, reincarnations of myself, with the aid of what I called "spirit guide", and why I asserted a belief that all animals have one. It joked with me, especially as a grasshopper. I saw the lives of cattle, and the occasional pig (the life of a pig is not fun, and I hated being preincarnated as one), as well as incects I have killed, and animals that I have harmed in my life. Some of them occored before the age of 17, but one occored as recently as June of this year.

    In the end, the Gatekeeper acquiesced. I was allowed to view the memory, and others. I have retained this ability to a degree, though it requires intense meditation.  It also asked for my permission to make another change, without explaining what exactly it wanted. It told me, in its clumsy fashion, that it, too, was dissatisfied with our relationship, in that it felt that it had identified a flaw in our design, but needed my permission to correct it. I acquiesced, allowing it to take over for me when it felt a strong need to do so. I reasoned that if I couldn't trust myself, who could I trust?

    This is why I can't help but try to save the world single-handedly, as it were. I am an unnatural, in that in a state of nature, I would have died. I like to believe that all things happen for reasons, and as I was saved by cutting-edge medical science available in 1975, I want to believe that the kindness shown by the young intern physician back then will butterfly effect, and that its echoes will have a positive impact upon humanity in total. This, then, is my destiny. I have had to accept it, and must simply allow it to manifest.

    I study popular culture, and history, and a smattering of science and law. I am effectively barred from higher education on the basis of my unbending belief that I cannot blame the so-called robber-barons like the Rockefellers and Harrimans of the Industrial Revolution for the state of the world today. They, too, were people doing what they though was right, using a system as it was designed to be used. I cannot blame Donald Trump for his indescretion with Stormy Daniels, as Benjamin Franklin himself made the mistake of consorting with "low women". In Franklin's day, abortion was not unheard of, but wise Dr. Franklin took responsibility for his indescretions, and he and his wife raised the baby produced from one such encounter.

    I have to trust that the decisions I am compelled to make, the parh that has been set before me is meant to be travelled, and that if I don't live up to these responsibilities, perhaps the entire world will suffer for it. The Old Man from the dream at the moment of self-awareness told me that my purpose was to find Allah, and thus I am the lone jihadi in the Greatest of all Jihad, the jihad against the self. In my lifetime, I have put aside a number of cultural and indeed racial biases that I had carried for too long. I understand now that the Tower of Babel is a warning, that the ingredients for humanity's success is split among the tribes, and that no one group has all the answers.

    Some of my claims are verifiable, such as my near-death experience shortly after birth. Not verifiable by the vast majority of the site, but by Joe Chedburn himself, as i have released to the site my medical and employment history. This takes me well out of my comfort zone, as I am uncomfortable around people, and value my privacy and anonymity. The last thing I want is to become a celebrity, to be known or recognized outside my small circle of friends and relations. This, however, is and must be overshadowed by a commitment to the greater good, to Islam.

    At least a few Islamists would probably reject me. I do not go to mosque, though there is one close to my home. I don't learn Arabic as I should, nor do I practice salat. I do make reasonable effort to eat halal and/or kosher food. I believe in this Creator, and with my right to exist, accept the responsibility to preserve that right for my son, and his son, on into the future. I want to demonstrate this, and if it goes unnoticed, good. You have no responsibility to read what I write, though I am confident that it will interest those who want to classify me and my thought process. I know that my mind itself is an anomaly, and that this will not go unnoticed here, or on the Internet in general.

    I have found clear proofs, but they are probably meant only to me. This is the best way I know to express them, in a game where everybody wins, where the changes made, some of which may or may not have been at my own prompting, are a natural progression. Once I write these things here, they become property of Chedburn Nrtworks, Inc. The Gatekeeper seemed to have to get permission from something, a consciousness of all people, perhaps God himself. I am not ashamed to tell others that not only do I believe in God, and in the Last Day, I know that evolution, good or bad, is the future. Will humanity make itself extinct, devolve into beasts, destroy the planet and become some type of monster, or evolve into an enlightened and higher form? I don't know the answer to any of these questions. I do know that I will stand with the fine Muslims who also believed in the Dei, in the greater good, and in the last day, who allowed me the freedom to put this stuff out there.

    The argument that most everyone is good, that all things happen for reasons, that there is nothing to fear but the Almighty, are neither laughable nor archaic. They are as relevant today as they were in the time of the ancients, in 1776, and in 2018 and beyond. I have to take that leap of faith, though I make mistakes. I was meant to post something on the forums, but when I got around to it, I seemed to have missed my chance. Does that disqualify me, or will I get another? I have no idea, its out of my hands.

    In the end, I have to accept that things are never as they seem on the surface, and have to trust that Allah is the best of planners.That's sometimes all that keeps me going. Maybe I Chedded humanity's chance, or maybe nothing i do matters, and the decisions of people in the historical agregate will outweigh my own choices and mistakes. I have no idea what will happen. That's what makes the experiment so exciting. Tear me down, hunt me down and kill me, or think on these things as I have and wage your own Greater Jihad. That's what makes life worth living, the expectation of continuity. Hopefully this was far too long and involved for the vast majority to bother reading, and so I can let this all go and let it play out. If I knew what would happen, it wouldn't be a legit science experiment, now would it?

    Blessed be.
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