FULL EXP BAR RESULT | Missions | TORN
FULL EXP BAR RESULT
    • Heisenberg [1574771]
    • Role: Civilian
    • Level: 97
    • Posts: 952
    • Karma: 1522
    • Last Action: 1 minute
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Thread created on 16:03:54 - 02/06/16 (7 years ago)
    |
    Last replied 15:49:17 - 26/10/16 (7 years ago)
    miro [1689701] was the first one to confirm full experience bar. There was no merit or unlock of new characters. 

    Confirmed
    Last edited by Heisenberg on 22:15:14 - 07/09/16
    • Marc [24377]
    • Role: Civilian
    • Level: 100
    • Posts: 8299
    • Karma: 2537
    • Last Action: 29 minutes
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Posted on 20:25:09 - 02/06/16 (7 years ago)
    Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
    I've been at 17/20 for a week or two now. Still waiting for expert unlock mission!
    • Scootaloo [1590427]
    • Role: Civilian
    • Level: 100
    • Posts: 6044
    • Karma: 10836
    • Last Action: 11 months
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Posted on 15:14:02 - 05/06/16 (7 years ago)
    Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link

    Marc [24377]

    I've been at 17/20 for a week or two now. Still waiting for expert unlock mission!
    ^this

    Annoying as hell but I advanced through the other stages pretty quickly so it works out.

    I wonder what happens at full reputation though? Anyone got any ideas?

     

    Thank you Kuroyukihime [284514] for making those lovely signatures for me!

    • Heisenberg [1574771]
    • Role: Civilian
    • Level: 97
    • Posts: 952
    • Karma: 1522
    • Last Action: 1 minute
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Posted on 15:35:08 - 05/06/16 (7 years ago)
    Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
    Id think you unlock the next agent, who ched has already released details on?

    Or it just continues to give you very hard and expert missions until ched allows us to use new agent
    • Marc [24377]
    • Role: Civilian
    • Level: 100
    • Posts: 8299
    • Karma: 2537
    • Last Action: 29 minutes
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Posted on 17:34:40 - 05/06/16 (7 years ago)
    Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link

    Heisenberg [1574771]

    Id think you unlock the next agent, who ched has already released details on?

    Or it just continues to give you very hard and expert missions until ched allows us to use new agent
    I personally believe the new agent will be available to all, regardless of rank with Duke.

    My reasoning for this is that some people may not want to do the Duke contracts, but may be interested in doing Amanda's! It would be slightly unfair to punish those who don't wish to do Duke's (because of the massive energy requirement to get to max reputation).
    • SourRon [852964]
    • Role: Civilian
    • Level: 100
    • Posts: 2011
    • Karma: 1334
    • Last Action: 46 minutes
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Posted on 19:01:38 - 05/06/16 (7 years ago)
    Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link

    Heisenberg [1574771]

    Id think you unlock the next agent, who ched has already released details on?

    Or it just continues to give you very hard and expert missions until ched allows us to use new agent

    Marc [24377]

    I personally believe the new agent will be available to all, regardless of rank with Duke.

    My reasoning for this is that some people may not want to do the Duke contracts, but may be interested in doing Amanda's! It would be slightly unfair to punish those who don't wish to do Duke's (because of the massive energy requirement to get to max reputation).
    Looking at it from the opposite point of view, it would be unfair to those that have put the energy in to progressing through Duke's contracts with the intention of progressing on to other agents.

    Those that chose not to use as much as energy as necessary to make maximum progress with Duke's contracts have made their choice, and if they do not get access to Amanda then that could not be described, even slightly, as a punishment on them.
    • Marc [24377]
    • Role: Civilian
    • Level: 100
    • Posts: 8299
    • Karma: 2537
    • Last Action: 29 minutes
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Posted on 19:13:58 - 05/06/16 (7 years ago)
    Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link

    SourRon [852964]

    Looking at it from the opposite point of view, it would be unfair to those that have put the energy in to progressing through Duke's contracts with the intention of progressing on to other agents.

    Those that chose not to use as much as energy as necessary to make maximum progress with Duke's contracts have made their choice, and if they do not get access to Amanda then that could not be described, even slightly, as a punishment on them.
    I'm struggling to understand your point, unfortunately.

    Most people view energy as a precious commodity and some have found Duke's contracts to be "impossible" so then being restricted access to Amanda would further punish them purely because they don't have the stats in order to max Duke's reputation bar?

    I like the progress within each agent itself, higher progress means more credits/rewards from that agent which I think is fair enough for all involved?
    • SourRon [852964]
    • Role: Civilian
    • Level: 100
    • Posts: 2011
    • Karma: 1334
    • Last Action: 46 minutes
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Posted on 20:09:35 - 05/06/16 (7 years ago)
    Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link

    SourRon [852964]

    Looking at it from the opposite point of view, it would be unfair to those that have put the energy in to progressing through Duke's contracts with the intention of progressing on to other agents.

    Those that chose not to use as much as energy as necessary to make maximum progress with Duke's contracts have made their choice, and if they do not get access to Amanda then that could not be described, even slightly, as a punishment on them.

    Marc [24377]

    I'm struggling to understand your point, unfortunately.

    Most people view energy as a precious commodity and some have found Duke's contracts to be "impossible" so then being restricted access to Amanda would further punish them purely because they don't have the stats in order to max Duke's reputation bar?

    I like the progress within each agent itself, higher progress means more credits/rewards from that agent which I think is fair enough for all involved?
    Those that have chosen to use less energy than would be necessary to maximise progress through Duke's contracts, for whatever reason, should not have as fast access to Amanda or any other contract agent, than those that have chosen to spend their precious energy on progressing through Duke's contracts.

    None of Duke's contracts are impossible. Some of Duke's contracts have turned out to be nearly impossible for many people to do on their own. Anyone of that opinion will find those contracts can be completed when collaborating with others.

    To give access to Amanda's contracts without having a high standing on Duke's contracts would seem unfair on those that have spent their precious energy on completing Duke's contracts, with the expectation that they are making progress to unlocking other contract agents. Maybe they will turn out to be wrong to have that expectation.

    I disagree with the idea that those that do not have high standing with Duke should be viewed as being punished if they do not get access to Amanda's contracts. I think it would be fairer to have access to other contract agents dependent on having made a certain level of progress through Duke's contracts.
    • Marc [24377]
    • Role: Civilian
    • Level: 100
    • Posts: 8299
    • Karma: 2537
    • Last Action: 29 minutes
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Posted on 20:28:58 - 05/06/16 (7 years ago)
    Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link

    SourRon [852964]

    Those that have chosen to use less energy than would be necessary to maximise progress through Duke's contracts, for whatever reason, should not have as fast access to Amanda or any other contract agent, than those that have chosen to spend their precious energy on progressing through Duke's contracts.

    None of Duke's contracts are impossible. Some of Duke's contracts have turned out to be nearly impossible for many people to do on their own. Anyone of that opinion will find those contracts can be completed when collaborating with others.

    To give access to Amanda's contracts without having a high standing on Duke's contracts would seem unfair on those that have spent their precious energy on completing Duke's contracts, with the expectation that they are making progress to unlocking other contract agents. Maybe they will turn out to be wrong to have that expectation.

    I disagree with the idea that those that do not have high standing with Duke should be viewed as being punished if they do not get access to Amanda's contracts. I think it would be fairer to have access to other contract agents dependent on having made a certain level of progress through Duke's contracts.
    I personally haven't missed a single contract with Duke. I'm simply trying to view the system as a whole.

    Those who have a higher progress on Duke have already been awarded with more credits, which in turn will be able to buy some really cool stuff such as books and mods. Those who only choose to do one or two agents out of the available 6 (what I assume will be daily contract giver) agents, will obviously be "punished" by not accruing credits as fast as their counterparts who choose to do all 6 agents, spending whatever is required in order to get those benefits.

    I believe that this is "punishment" enough and nothing further needs to be done. Everyone should be able to get contracts from each agent, it's up to them whether or not they want to complete those contracts, surely?

    The expectation provided by Chedburn (http://www.torn.com/forums.php#!p=threads&f=1&t=15958937&b=0&a=0) was that agent standing only affected that particular agent. "You can increase the difficulty of contracts he provides by increasing your standing with him." There was nothing mentioned, or alluded to, that agent standing would unlock other agents.
    • SourRon [852964]
    • Role: Civilian
    • Level: 100
    • Posts: 2011
    • Karma: 1334
    • Last Action: 46 minutes
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Posted on 20:58:47 - 05/06/16 (7 years ago)
    Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link

    SourRon [852964]

    Those that have chosen to use less energy than would be necessary to maximise progress through Duke's contracts, for whatever reason, should not have as fast access to Amanda or any other contract agent, than those that have chosen to spend their precious energy on progressing through Duke's contracts.

    None of Duke's contracts are impossible. Some of Duke's contracts have turned out to be nearly impossible for many people to do on their own. Anyone of that opinion will find those contracts can be completed when collaborating with others.

    To give access to Amanda's contracts without having a high standing on Duke's contracts would seem unfair on those that have spent their precious energy on completing Duke's contracts, with the expectation that they are making progress to unlocking other contract agents. Maybe they will turn out to be wrong to have that expectation.

    I disagree with the idea that those that do not have high standing with Duke should be viewed as being punished if they do not get access to Amanda's contracts. I think it would be fairer to have access to other contract agents dependent on having made a certain level of progress through Duke's contracts.

    Marc [24377]

    I personally haven't missed a single contract with Duke. I'm simply trying to view the system as a whole.

    Those who have a higher progress on Duke have already been awarded with more credits, which in turn will be able to buy some really cool stuff such as books and mods. Those who only choose to do one or two agents out of the available 6 (what I assume will be daily contract giver) agents, will obviously be "punished" by not accruing credits as fast as their counterparts who choose to do all 6 agents, spending whatever is required in order to get those benefits.

    I believe that this is "punishment" enough and nothing further needs to be done. Everyone should be able to get contracts from each agent, it's up to them whether or not they want to complete those contracts, surely?

    The expectation provided by Chedburn (http://www.torn.com/forums.php#!p=threads&f=1&t=15958937&b=0&a=0) was that agent standing only affected that particular agent. "You can increase the difficulty of contracts he provides by increasing your standing with him." There was nothing mentioned, or alluded to, that agent standing would unlock other agents.
    I agree with your last sentence but Chedburn does not specifically state how access to future agents' contracts will be obtained. If he prefers to, he could set it up so that agent standing with one agent is a criterion for being able to access contracts with another agent, but he may choose not to do that. If he did do that then I don't think that should be viewed as punishing those choosing not to progress with an earlier agent.

    In thinking more about it, I now expect Amanda will be available to all irrespective of the amount of progress people have made with Duke, but in my opinion I think one or more future contract agents should be dependent on progress made with previous agents.
    • Mega_Mindy [865555]
    • Role: Civilian
    • Level: 50
    • Posts: 3384
    • Karma: 1375
    • Last Action: 3 hours
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Posted on 15:37:40 - 12/06/16 (7 years ago)
    Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
    I have no opinion on the matter...

    Send me a Lollipop  and I will lick it!

    • Heisenberg [1574771]
    • Role: Civilian
    • Level: 97
    • Posts: 952
    • Karma: 1522
    • Last Action: 1 minute
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Posted on 19:36:05 - 12/06/16 (7 years ago)
    Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
    It's not a matter than requires an opinion so don't let the door hit you on the way out
    • PatBenatar [420347]
    • Role: Civilian
    • Level: 100
    • Posts: 6837
    • Karma: 4629
    • Last Action: 1 year
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Posted on 00:02:33 - 13/06/16 (7 years ago)
    Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
    I really think all Dukes mission should be completed before Amanda's unlocked.  Like the Gym access, progression.

    “One good thing about music, when it hits you, you feel no pain.” ― Bob Marley

    • zgreek [1952800]
    • Role: Civilian
    • Level: 79
    • Posts: 3232
    • Karma: 1169
    • Last Action: 41 minutes
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Posted on 18:20:20 - 16/06/16 (7 years ago)
    Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link

    SourRon [852964]

    Looking at it from the opposite point of view, it would be unfair to those that have put the energy in to progressing through Duke's contracts with the intention of progressing on to other agents.

    Those that chose not to use as much as energy as necessary to make maximum progress with Duke's contracts have made their choice, and if they do not get access to Amanda then that could not be described, even slightly, as a punishment on them.

    Marc [24377]

    I'm struggling to understand your point, unfortunately.

    Most people view energy as a precious commodity and some have found Duke's contracts to be "impossible" so then being restricted access to Amanda would further punish them purely because they don't have the stats in order to max Duke's reputation bar?

    I like the progress within each agent itself, higher progress means more credits/rewards from that agent which I think is fair enough for all involved?
    whos amanda?

    I like carrots

    • Marc [24377]
    • Role: Civilian
    • Level: 100
    • Posts: 8299
    • Karma: 2537
    • Last Action: 29 minutes
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Posted on 19:22:09 - 16/06/16 (7 years ago)
    Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link

    SourRon [852964]

    Looking at it from the opposite point of view, it would be unfair to those that have put the energy in to progressing through Duke's contracts with the intention of progressing on to other agents.

    Those that chose not to use as much as energy as necessary to make maximum progress with Duke's contracts have made their choice, and if they do not get access to Amanda then that could not be described, even slightly, as a punishment on them.

    Marc [24377]

    I'm struggling to understand your point, unfortunately.

    Most people view energy as a precious commodity and some have found Duke's contracts to be "impossible" so then being restricted access to Amanda would further punish them purely because they don't have the stats in order to max Duke's reputation bar?

    I like the progress within each agent itself, higher progress means more credits/rewards from that agent which I think is fair enough for all involved?

    zgreek [1952800]

    whos amanda?
    The new mission contract agent. See Cheds bulletin board post
    • bogie [148747]
    • Role: Admin
    • Level: 100
    • Posts: 20138
    • Karma: 115936
    • Last Action: 2 hours
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Posted on 20:03:58 - 16/06/16 (7 years ago)
    Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
    Just got to 2 remaining notches today :P (would've been yesterday as I did 2 missions today as I didn't have time yesterday)
    Last edited by bogie on 20:04:21 - 16/06/16

    Forum-sig.png

    • Heisenberg [1574771]
    • Role: Civilian
    • Level: 97
    • Posts: 952
    • Karma: 1522
    • Last Action: 1 minute
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Posted on 21:58:06 - 16/06/16 (7 years ago)
    Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link

    bogie [148747]

    Just got to 2 remaining notches today :P (would've been yesterday as I did 2 missions today as I didn't have time yesterday)
    Nice, I have updated the thread! Will be interesting as we get to the final bar, thanks for update
    • PatBenatar [420347]
    • Role: Civilian
    • Level: 100
    • Posts: 6837
    • Karma: 4629
    • Last Action: 1 year
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Posted on 01:14:03 - 20/06/16 (7 years ago)
    Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link

    Heisenberg [1574771]

    miro [1689701] was the first one to confirm full experience bar. There was no merit or unlock of new characters.

    Confirmed
    He may have confirmed but don't think he was the first.

    “One good thing about music, when it hits you, you feel no pain.” ― Bob Marley

    • Heisenberg [1574771]
    • Role: Civilian
    • Level: 97
    • Posts: 952
    • Karma: 1522
    • Last Action: 1 minute
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Posted on 01:21:40 - 20/06/16 (7 years ago)
    Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
    But you agreed he confirmed first so what is your point?

    I did not claim he is 100% without a doubt the first person to break 18/20 mission experience, I stated he was the first to confirm.
    • PatBenatar [420347]
    • Role: Civilian
    • Level: 100
    • Posts: 6837
    • Karma: 4629
    • Last Action: 1 year
      • 0
    • Reason:
      Are you sure you want to report this post to staff?
      Cancel
    Posted on 05:49:28 - 20/06/16 (7 years ago)
    Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
    I did not know I was required to post my progress.  We already have a expert thread why do we need another one?
    Last edited by PatBenatar on 05:50:20 - 20/06/16

    “One good thing about music, when it hits you, you feel no pain.” ― Bob Marley

Reply
Thread Title: