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    I started playing guitar around 2 years ago. I went at it hard for a few months but like usual, the motivation fizzled out and i found myself stuck on where to go next and i put it down not to be touched for a looong time. I think the main reason i stopped is due to me being completely self taught via youtube and other means i didnt have a proper schedule or lesson plans.

    I have decided to get back into it and try create myself a proper schedule.

    Basically i am asking guitarists of torn, how did you learn? What did you do first then move onto next? What was your first year of playing like? And what did it consist of?

    Here is the things i have taught myself so far..

    A,D(&sus4),E chords. I can move between them while playing pretty well.

    G,C9 - probably the easiest chords to learn and move between.

    Regular C chord
    A minor, e minor
    D7

    Riffs and noodles i have learned -

    Daytripper - intro riff

    Time of your life (G,C9,D) intro section, i can play all individual strings and move between chords.

    Fear of the dark - melodic intro
    Dance of death - melodic intro

    Brain strew riff

    Crazy train riff

    Simple dueling banjos

    Start of feb update -

    I can now play time of your life in its entirety

    Candy - paolo nutini

    Run to you - brian adams

    Hurt - Johnny cash

    Starting running down a dream by tom petty now.

    June edit:

    Can play running down a dream, yer so bad.

    Simple 12 bar blues.

    Blues chords.

    Californication intro and solo (need to go back and learn the rest of song)

    Some basic music theory regarding root notes and some scales.

    Created my first ever riff!

    Can do barre chords down the neck like a champ using the "F" shape .

    Starting to learn more of "dead or alive" by bon jovi.
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    Posted on 00:26:14 - 31/12/20 (9 months ago)
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    I do wish I had someone to play with, your story sounds like mine. High motivation that has waned.

    In the beginning, forcing myself to play slower helped as much anything. Progress has come in spurts. Then life has gotten in the way a bit (excuses)

    I had taken piano as a child, played recorder in early school so the basic concepts of standard scales, measures, and time sigs were there.

    I started with a rudimentary chord/scale book for guitar and absolutely used the net. Getting hand strength for barre chords was a hurdle. Learning how to NOT squeeze the neck so tight was leap.

    Alt picking is where I need the most work

    But playing has changed my listening which is changing my playing.....
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    Posted on 00:51:43 - 31/12/20 (9 months ago)
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    My first year of playing waa 3 months of having a staring competition with the guitar,it won, so I learned Horse With No Name.

    Then somehow I just kept on playing.

    My number 1 tip which nobody ever believes so they don't do it properly is to play it as if you're a genius. Like a 4 year old prodigy that knows nothing about the guitar but can play like a friggin god.

    Try it, I dare you. Use all your imagination and go have fun.

    Then keep practicing your chords n whatnot.

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    Posted on 02:14:51 - 31/12/20 (9 months ago)
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    Thanks for your input guys. Motivation is the big thing for sure. Im trying to surround myself in guitar themed things to constantly remind me to pick the damn thing up. Its working so far its in my lap as i write this message. My fingers are sore, its been a while hahah


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    Posted on 12:20:26 - 02/01/21 (9 months ago)
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    I have been playing more, thanks for the shout on horse with no name i decided to learn it since its only 2 chords but the strumming pattern is taking abit of work, il get it though. Also learned a new scale to practice and in the process of learning Run to you by bryan adams.


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    Posted on 16:33:50 - 06/01/21 (9 months ago)
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    Playing every day since i made this thread. Glad im sticking with it. Finally got the main riff of run to you down. Was really struggling with the timing and the different picking patterns per chords but i got there. Working on the rest of the song now. Also been noodling and making noise pretty much, trying to work on my finger dexterity and my right arms motor.


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    Posted on 15:33:25 - 07/01/21 (9 months ago)
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    A tip (you might already do this) basically:  Regularly spend a little time playing some songs straight though, as if your doing a "set" without stopping if/when you make a mistake - being able to recover & continue can be something that can need to be learned; it's of benefit if you eventually play live in front of someone, or with another musician. (if you've worked in a music shop, you'll have seen/heard some excellent playing right up to the first mistake (more likely on an unfamiliar  instrument) where they stop & correct; says "bedroom musician"

    "Me & Bobby McGee" it's a song lots of people seem to know, can be played at different tempos & fingerstyles; takes some work to seriously butcher it if you sing it; and sounds better the more drunk you get.

    Again, if you sing & play - have one (or more) funny song(s) in your repertoire - on the basis that people tend to focus on the words rather than the quality of the delivery! My goto was a parody of "Side by Side" marrying a woman with wooden leg, glass eye etc. heard it on an LP many years ago, poss The Corries.

    Good luck!

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    Posted on 16:28:45 - 07/01/21 (9 months ago)
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    _TB [102482]

    A tip (you might already do this) basically: Regularly spend a little time playing some songs straight though, as if your doing a "set" without stopping if/when you make a mistake - being able to recover & continue can be something that can need to be learned; it's of benefit if you eventually play live in front of someone, or with another musician. (if you've worked in a music shop, you'll have seen/heard some excellent playing right up to the first mistake (more likely on an unfamiliar instrument) where they stop & correct; says "bedroom musician"

    "Me & Bobby McGee" it's a song lots of people seem to know, can be played at different tempos & fingerstyles; takes some work to seriously butcher it if you sing it; and sounds better the more drunk you get.

    Again, if you sing & play - have one (or more) funny song(s) in your repertoire - on the basis that people tend to focus on the words rather than the quality of the delivery! My goto was a parody of "Side by Side" marrying a woman with wooden leg, glass eye etc. heard it on an LP many years ago, poss The Corries.

    Good luck!
    Thanks for the tip! I will be sure to try that when i finally get a full song down. The best i can play is time of your life and run to you. I have the intro sections down just need to practice my chord changes for the rest of the song(s). Il hopefully get them down soon.


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    Posted on 13:01:24 - 08/01/21 (9 months ago)
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    Had abit of a breakthrough last night i can actually play 2 songs all the way through now, not perfect ofcourse but i finally have somethings that resemble a song! Now to practice practice practice.

    I know not everyone will care but posting here about my journey is helping me keep at it, even if nobody reads it.


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    Posted on 13:47:14 - 11/01/21 (9 months ago)
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    I honestly can't remember much of learning the guitar, seems like a past life. However, if I want to learn something new that I can't figure out then I just head to YouTube, and someone on there will point me the right way.

    The only bit that's still clear to me is sitting on the toilet with a guitar, reading tabs off the floor. Pick the songs that you 'air guitar' to, find the tabs and rinse & repeat until the skin falls off your fingers. Perhaps start with simple feelgood riffs (RHCP, RATM, QOTSA, Zeppelin), once you learn the shapes and patterns most 'pop' songs are variations on a theme.



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    Posted on 15:44:57 - 11/01/21 (9 months ago)
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    I honestly can't remember much of learning the guitar, seems like a past life. However, if I want to learn something new that I can't figure out then I just head to YouTube, and someone on there will point me the right way.

    The only bit that's still clear to me is sitting on the toilet with a guitar, reading tabs off the floor. Pick the songs that you 'air guitar' to, find the tabs and rinse & repeat until the skin falls off your fingers. Perhaps start with simple feelgood riffs (RHCP, RATM, QOTSA, Zeppelin), once you learn the shapes and patterns most 'pop' songs are variations on a theme.
    Yeah i get that. Im like that with things im already good at i actually cant remember learning its like its always been there haha. 

    Yeah right now im keeping it easy, i want the basics down solid before i go off and start tryna play blues/rock/metal.

    Still just practicing the 2 full songs i have, going to begin to learn Wanted Dead or Alive tonight. Love that track


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    Posted on 17:29:18 - 11/01/21 (9 months ago)
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    I started playing guitar around 2 years ago. I went at it hard for a few months but like usual, the motivation fizzled out and i found myself stuck on where to go next and i put it down not to be touched for a looong time. I think the main reason i stopped is due to me being completely self taught via youtube and other means i didnt have a proper schedule or lesson plans.

    I have decided to get back into it and try create myself a proper schedule.

    Basically i am asking guitarists of torn, how did you learn? What did you do first then move onto next? What was your first year of playing like? And what did it consist of?

    Here is the things i have taught myself so far..

    A,D(&sus4),E chords. I can move between them while playing pretty well.

    G,C9 - probably the easiest chords to learn and move between.

    Regular C chord
    A minor, e minor
    D7

    Riffs and noodles i have learned -

    Daytripper - intro riff

    Time of your life (G,C9,D) intro section, i can play all individual strings and move between chords.

    Fear of the dark - melodic intro
    Dance of death - melodic intro

    Brain strew riff

    Crazy train riff

    Simple dueling banjos

    Start of feb update -

    I can now play time of your life in its entirety

    Candy - paolo nutini

    Run to you - brian adams

    Hurt - Johnny cash

    Starting running down a dream by tom petty now.

    June edit:

    Can play running down a dream, yer so bad.

    Simple 12 bar blues.

    Blues chords.

    Californication intro and solo (need to go back and learn the rest of song)

    Some basic music theory regarding root notes and some scales.

    Created my first ever riff!

    Can do barre chords down the neck like a champ using the "F" shape .

    Starting to learn more of "dead or alive" by bon jovi.
    Playing since I was 12 - classical, Spanish, ragtime, blues and my own compositions. I auditioned for the music program at Uni but thankfully didn't get in because I flubbed my set pieces and my theory sucks.

    My advice is to offset the inherent awkwardness of the guitar (EADGBE really sucks compared to the layout of, say, a piano) by learning at least a few rudiments of theory. If you want to understand the fretboard, first and foremost (assuming you at least know what a scale is), spend some time learning the circle of fifths...it's possibly the most useful bit of theory a guitar player can learn, and can mean the difference between looking like an idiot or sounding like a god.

    Here's a very basic video on the circle of fifths. It explains what the circle is on its most basic level, and has a cute chick to make it easier:



    And here's one specifically for guitar players that will help you transfer that knowledge to the fretboard, including the chord progressions that make up about 95% of all pop music:



    If it seems like too much work to learn, keep in mind the potential attention you'll get from girls if you git gud. Yes, that really does make the study all worth while. Take it from me, I was a 98-lb. loser, but now I'm a guitar god with thousands of beautiful women hanging off my wang.

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    Posted on 18:43:30 - 11/01/21 (9 months ago)
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    Whiffy [609832]

    I started playing guitar around 2 years ago. I went at it hard for a few months but like usual, the motivation fizzled out and i found myself stuck on where to go next and i put it down not to be touched for a looong time. I think the main reason i stopped is due to me being completely self taught via youtube and other means i didnt have a proper schedule or lesson plans.

    I have decided to get back into it and try create myself a proper schedule.

    Basically i am asking guitarists of torn, how did you learn? What did you do first then move onto next? What was your first year of playing like? And what did it consist of?

    Here is the things i have taught myself so far..

    A,D(&sus4),E chords. I can move between them while playing pretty well.

    G,C9 - probably the easiest chords to learn and move between.

    Regular C chord
    A minor, e minor
    D7

    Riffs and noodles i have learned -

    Daytripper - intro riff

    Time of your life (G,C9,D) intro section, i can play all individual strings and move between chords.

    Fear of the dark - melodic intro
    Dance of death - melodic intro

    Brain strew riff

    Crazy train riff

    Simple dueling banjos

    Start of feb update -

    I can now play time of your life in its entirety

    Candy - paolo nutini

    Run to you - brian adams

    Hurt - Johnny cash

    Starting running down a dream by tom petty now.

    June edit:

    Can play running down a dream, yer so bad.

    Simple 12 bar blues.

    Blues chords.

    Californication intro and solo (need to go back and learn the rest of song)

    Some basic music theory regarding root notes and some scales.

    Created my first ever riff!

    Can do barre chords down the neck like a champ using the "F" shape .

    Starting to learn more of "dead or alive" by bon jovi.

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Playing since I was 12 - classical, Spanish, ragtime, blues and my own compositions. I auditioned for the music program at Uni but thankfully didn't get in because I flubbed my set pieces and my theory sucks.

    My advice is to offset the inherent awkwardness of the guitar (EADGBE really sucks compared to the layout of, say, a piano) by learning at least a few rudiments of theory. If you want to understand the fretboard, first and foremost (assuming you at least know what a scale is), spend some time learning the circle of fifths...it's possibly the most useful bit of theory a guitar player can learn, and can mean the difference between looking like an idiot or sounding like a god.

    Here's a very basic video on the circle of fifths. It explains what the circle is on its most basic level, and has a cute chick to make it easier:



    And here's one specifically for guitar players that will help you transfer that knowledge to the fretboard, including the chord progressions that make up about 95% of all pop music:



    If it seems like too much work to learn, keep in mind the potential attention you'll get from girls if you git gud. Yes, that really does make the study all worth while. Take it from me, I was a 98-lb. loser, but now I'm a guitar god with thousands of beautiful women hanging off my wang.
    Thanks for the tips. Will be sure to read onto this haha.

    Im learning guitar for myself, dont give a shit about chicks. I already have a fantastic one.


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    Posted on 21:17:11 - 13/01/21 (9 months ago)
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    So im working on my F chord now. I intend on sending a strongly worded email to whoever invented this shit.


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    So im working on my F chord now. I intend on sending a strongly worded email to whoever invented this shit.
    Tuck your elbow in to your side and it puts your fingers over the neck more.

    My thumb actually fatigues quicker than anything else. But F is a really useful chord.
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    Posted on 13:36:59 - 17/01/21 (9 months ago)
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    Whiffy [609832]

    So im working on my F chord now. I intend on sending a strongly worded email to whoever invented this shit.

    Mudbottom [1879891]

    Tuck your elbow in to your side and it puts your fingers over the neck more.

    My thumb actually fatigues quicker than anything else. But F is a really useful chord.
    Thanks for the tip i will work on that!


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    Posted on 14:20:02 - 17/01/21 (9 months ago)
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    When I first started plucking strings in high school I feel like I memorized “smoke on the water” till I could play it with out messing up.

    At first it was just a note or 2 and it sounded hideous. But as I found my self remembering where my fingers needed to be and how to move them it go easier to add a few more strings till I realized I knew the whole song
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    Posted on 14:17:33 - 21/01/21 (8 months ago)
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    Took my electric to a technician. Needed some work done. Was sat for a while and the QC wasnt the greatest when i got it anyway. So been playing on an old Art and Lutherie acoustic my grandfather gave me years ago. Sounds great but its a f**ker to play. Crazy high action and im pretty sure the strings are made out of cement. Hopefully i get my electric back soon


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    Took my electric to a technician. Needed some work done. Was sat for a while and the QC wasnt the greatest when i got it anyway. So been playing on an old Art and Lutherie acoustic my grandfather gave me years ago. Sounds great but its a f**ker to play. Crazy high action and im pretty sure the strings are made out of cement. Hopefully i get my electric back soon
    What are you playing on anyway?

    I'm (not so much) playing an Alvarez Silver Anniversary acoustic.

    There's alot going on that dictates your tone, obviously a lot more variables if you're plugged in.
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    Whiffy [609832]

    Took my electric to a technician. Needed some work done. Was sat for a while and the QC wasnt the greatest when i got it anyway. So been playing on an old Art and Lutherie acoustic my grandfather gave me years ago. Sounds great but its a f**ker to play. Crazy high action and im pretty sure the strings are made out of cement. Hopefully i get my electric back soon

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    What are you playing on anyway?

    I'm (not so much) playing an Alvarez Silver Anniversary acoustic.

    There's alot going on that dictates your tone, obviously a lot more variables if you're plugged in.
    I just have an Epi LP special 2. just an electric beginners kit i got for like £200 a couple years ago and i have the art and lutherie dreadnought. Will probably look to get something new at the end of the year, going to get a new amp first. Looking at a Boss Katana 50 mk2. everyones raving about them atm


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