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    2900 days, 500m later and I want to use xanax already.

    Sports Science Lab users should get a merit and honour bar for this. Not using xanax, participating in chains, events, no happy jumps and getting gains without the use of xanax is an achievement in itself. Tired of getting beat up by noobs who only started playing yesterday.

    'Winners dont do drugs'

    Some designs:






    will post more designs as this thread progresses.

    It would make sense if these honour bars fall under the 'commitment' or as someone highlighted 'gym' section of the honour bar page. Or can be both, one for unlocking and purchasing SSL under 'gym' section and another for being a member for 1k days which would fall under 'commitment'.

    I know its a decision each SSL user made however, it should also be considered an achievement if trashing 5000 items in dump is considered an achievement worthy of a honour bar.

    Special thanks to majin-bUU for making the honour bars.

    For those saying that this is not fair as it is unattainable for drug users, you can say the same thing about SSL when it was introduced.

    Possible solution:

    • For completionists, allow xanax and ecstasy reset to 50.
    • A 'cold turkey' merit where could simply be for going drug free for maybe 6 months, while training X energy in the gym, doing X attacks etc... SSL users would get it from their natural playstyle, drug users could still obtain it.

    As Fermanagh said :
    Imo not all merits should be obtainable by everyone. Merits and awards are recognition of an achievement. Getting into SSL is a pretty big schoevement and shoe of dedication. Similarly, if an award is given out for a very specific milestone in torn history it should not be achievable by people who weren't there for the event the merit was given out for. A person who came in late and missed it it shouldn't have the merit later just for the sake of getting all of them. It takes away from the specialness of the award/merit for people who do have it
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    First, I believe this award would fall under the "Gym" section of the honor bar page as other awards similar to it, that involve unlocking gyms (Bronze belt, Silver belt, and Gold belt), already exist there. Secondly, this would not be fair for completionists that have locked themselves out from attaining these awards. For example, multiple suggestion treads have been made to bring back Torn of the Dead this year so that we can have a chance to earn the awards associated with it. In general, awards are designed with fluidity so that anyone could work towards them regardless of how much time/in-game resources they require.
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    First, I believe this award would fall under the "Gym" section of the honor bar page as other awards similar to it, that involve unlocking gyms (Bronze belt, Silver belt, and Gold belt), already exist there. Secondly, this would not be fair for completionists that have locked themselves out from attaining these awards. For example, multiple suggestion treads have been made to bring back Torn of the Dead this year so that we can have a chance to earn the awards associated with it. In general, awards are designed with fluidity so that anyone could work towards them regardless of how much time/in-game resources they require.
    When SSL first came out, Ched allowed completionist players to reset their drug use if I can remember.
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    I'd be fine with this - another small filip for those who choose the SSL route.  Completionists would just have to comfort themselves with the extra battle stats they've gained and the extra chain / war / event hits they've been able to do over the years as a result of not taking the SSL route.

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    2900 days, 500m later and I want to use xanax already.

    Sports Science Lab users should get a merit and honour bar for this. Not using xanax, participating in chains, events, no happy jumps and getting gains without the use of xanax is an achievement in itself. Tired of getting beat up by noobs who only started playing yesterday.

    'Winners dont do drugs'

    Some designs:






    will post more designs as this thread progresses.

    It would make sense if these honour bars fall under the 'commitment' or as someone highlighted 'gym' section of the honour bar page. Or can be both, one for unlocking and purchasing SSL under 'gym' section and another for being a member for 1k days which would fall under 'commitment'.

    I know its a decision each SSL user made however, it should also be considered an achievement if trashing 5000 items in dump is considered an achievement worthy of a honour bar.

    Special thanks to majin-bUU for making the honour bars.

    For those saying that this is not fair as it is unattainable for drug users, you can say the same thing about SSL when it was introduced.

    Possible solution:

    • For completionists, allow xanax and ecstasy reset to 50.
    • A 'cold turkey' merit where could simply be for going drug free for maybe 6 months, while training X energy in the gym, doing X attacks etc... SSL users would get it from their natural playstyle, drug users could still obtain it.

    As Fermanagh said :
    Imo not all merits should be obtainable by everyone. Merits and awards are recognition of an achievement. Getting into SSL is a pretty big schoevement and shoe of dedication. Similarly, if an award is given out for a very specific milestone in torn history it should not be achievable by people who weren't there for the event the merit was given out for. A person who came in late and missed it it shouldn't have the merit later just for the sake of getting all of them. It takes away from the specialness of the award/merit for people who do have it
    No, I am against adding unattainable merits, some of us trying to reach as much as possible

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    bump

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    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    2900 days, 500m later and I want to use xanax already.

    Sports Science Lab users should get a merit and honour bar for this. Not using xanax, participating in chains, events, no happy jumps and getting gains without the use of xanax is an achievement in itself. Tired of getting beat up by noobs who only started playing yesterday.

    'Winners dont do drugs'

    Some designs:






    will post more designs as this thread progresses.

    It would make sense if these honour bars fall under the 'commitment' or as someone highlighted 'gym' section of the honour bar page. Or can be both, one for unlocking and purchasing SSL under 'gym' section and another for being a member for 1k days which would fall under 'commitment'.

    I know its a decision each SSL user made however, it should also be considered an achievement if trashing 5000 items in dump is considered an achievement worthy of a honour bar.

    Special thanks to majin-bUU for making the honour bars.

    For those saying that this is not fair as it is unattainable for drug users, you can say the same thing about SSL when it was introduced.

    Possible solution:

    • For completionists, allow xanax and ecstasy reset to 50.
    • A 'cold turkey' merit where could simply be for going drug free for maybe 6 months, while training X energy in the gym, doing X attacks etc... SSL users would get it from their natural playstyle, drug users could still obtain it.

    As Fermanagh said :
    Imo not all merits should be obtainable by everyone. Merits and awards are recognition of an achievement. Getting into SSL is a pretty big schoevement and shoe of dedication. Similarly, if an award is given out for a very specific milestone in torn history it should not be achievable by people who weren't there for the event the merit was given out for. A person who came in late and missed it it shouldn't have the merit later just for the sake of getting all of them. It takes away from the specialness of the award/merit for people who do have it

    Adrenalinas [1974447]

    No, I am against adding unattainable merits, some of us trying to reach as much as possible
    But there are alot of merits for drug users that SSL players can´t achieve. So makes sense that there is some for SSL users also ? Doesn´t it ?
    Last edited by JohnnySniffles on 09:56:48 - 09/09/21


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    2900 days, 500m later and I want to use xanax already.

    Sports Science Lab users should get a merit and honour bar for this. Not using xanax, participating in chains, events, no happy jumps and getting gains without the use of xanax is an achievement in itself. Tired of getting beat up by noobs who only started playing yesterday.

    'Winners dont do drugs'

    Some designs:






    will post more designs as this thread progresses.

    It would make sense if these honour bars fall under the 'commitment' or as someone highlighted 'gym' section of the honour bar page. Or can be both, one for unlocking and purchasing SSL under 'gym' section and another for being a member for 1k days which would fall under 'commitment'.

    I know its a decision each SSL user made however, it should also be considered an achievement if trashing 5000 items in dump is considered an achievement worthy of a honour bar.

    Special thanks to majin-bUU for making the honour bars.

    For those saying that this is not fair as it is unattainable for drug users, you can say the same thing about SSL when it was introduced.

    Possible solution:

    • For completionists, allow xanax and ecstasy reset to 50.
    • A 'cold turkey' merit where could simply be for going drug free for maybe 6 months, while training X energy in the gym, doing X attacks etc... SSL users would get it from their natural playstyle, drug users could still obtain it.

    As Fermanagh said :
    Imo not all merits should be obtainable by everyone. Merits and awards are recognition of an achievement. Getting into SSL is a pretty big schoevement and shoe of dedication. Similarly, if an award is given out for a very specific milestone in torn history it should not be achievable by people who weren't there for the event the merit was given out for. A person who came in late and missed it it shouldn't have the merit later just for the sake of getting all of them. It takes away from the specialness of the award/merit for people who do have it

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    No, I am against adding unattainable merits, some of us trying to reach as much as possible

    JohnnySniffles [2161226]

    But there are alot of merits for drug users that SSL players can´t achieve. So makes sense that there is some for SSL users also ? Doesn´t it ?
    Drug users would be unable to get SSL merits due to being locked out. SSL users choose not to care about drug merits. Nothing is stopping them from using drugs.

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    Not a fan of introducing new unobtainable merits for those of us that made a decision years ago. I understand the need to justify using SSL but I don't think this is the way to do it tbh. I wouldn't be against another gym merit for obtaining membership in ANY special gym though, but perhaps that's too easy. 

    Either way, sorry for the R-

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    2900 days, 500m later and I want to use xanax already.

    Sports Science Lab users should get a merit and honour bar for this. Not using xanax, participating in chains, events, no happy jumps and getting gains without the use of xanax is an achievement in itself. Tired of getting beat up by noobs who only started playing yesterday.

    'Winners dont do drugs'

    Some designs:






    will post more designs as this thread progresses.

    It would make sense if these honour bars fall under the 'commitment' or as someone highlighted 'gym' section of the honour bar page. Or can be both, one for unlocking and purchasing SSL under 'gym' section and another for being a member for 1k days which would fall under 'commitment'.

    I know its a decision each SSL user made however, it should also be considered an achievement if trashing 5000 items in dump is considered an achievement worthy of a honour bar.

    Special thanks to majin-bUU for making the honour bars.

    For those saying that this is not fair as it is unattainable for drug users, you can say the same thing about SSL when it was introduced.

    Possible solution:

    • For completionists, allow xanax and ecstasy reset to 50.
    • A 'cold turkey' merit where could simply be for going drug free for maybe 6 months, while training X energy in the gym, doing X attacks etc... SSL users would get it from their natural playstyle, drug users could still obtain it.

    As Fermanagh said :
    Imo not all merits should be obtainable by everyone. Merits and awards are recognition of an achievement. Getting into SSL is a pretty big schoevement and shoe of dedication. Similarly, if an award is given out for a very specific milestone in torn history it should not be achievable by people who weren't there for the event the merit was given out for. A person who came in late and missed it it shouldn't have the merit later just for the sake of getting all of them. It takes away from the specialness of the award/merit for people who do have it

    Adrenalinas [1974447]

    No, I am against adding unattainable merits, some of us trying to reach as much as possible

    JohnnySniffles [2161226]

    But there are alot of merits for drug users that SSL players can´t achieve. So makes sense that there is some for SSL users also ? Doesn´t it ?

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    Drug users would be unable to get SSL merits due to being locked out. SSL users choose not to care about drug merits. Nothing is stopping them from using drugs.
    Except that keeping SSL unlocked requires not using them.
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    But there are alot of merits for drug users that SSL players can´t achieve. So makes sense that there is some for SSL users also ? Doesn´t it ?
    They can get all drug merits and don`t lose SSL gym. So no there is no sense to block someone from new merits

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    Except that keeping SSL unlocked requires not using them.
    You still can use 50 all drugs and get all merits and keep SSL gym so about what you talk about?

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    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    2900 days, 500m later and I want to use xanax already.

    Sports Science Lab users should get a merit and honour bar for this. Not using xanax, participating in chains, events, no happy jumps and getting gains without the use of xanax is an achievement in itself. Tired of getting beat up by noobs who only started playing yesterday.

    'Winners dont do drugs'

    Some designs:






    will post more designs as this thread progresses.

    It would make sense if these honour bars fall under the 'commitment' or as someone highlighted 'gym' section of the honour bar page. Or can be both, one for unlocking and purchasing SSL under 'gym' section and another for being a member for 1k days which would fall under 'commitment'.

    I know its a decision each SSL user made however, it should also be considered an achievement if trashing 5000 items in dump is considered an achievement worthy of a honour bar.

    Special thanks to majin-bUU for making the honour bars.

    For those saying that this is not fair as it is unattainable for drug users, you can say the same thing about SSL when it was introduced.

    Possible solution:

    • For completionists, allow xanax and ecstasy reset to 50.
    • A 'cold turkey' merit where could simply be for going drug free for maybe 6 months, while training X energy in the gym, doing X attacks etc... SSL users would get it from their natural playstyle, drug users could still obtain it.

    As Fermanagh said :
    Imo not all merits should be obtainable by everyone. Merits and awards are recognition of an achievement. Getting into SSL is a pretty big schoevement and shoe of dedication. Similarly, if an award is given out for a very specific milestone in torn history it should not be achievable by people who weren't there for the event the merit was given out for. A person who came in late and missed it it shouldn't have the merit later just for the sake of getting all of them. It takes away from the specialness of the award/merit for people who do have it

    Adrenalinas [1974447]

    No, I am against adding unattainable merits, some of us trying to reach as much as possible

    JohnnySniffles [2161226]

    But there are alot of merits for drug users that SSL players can´t achieve. So makes sense that there is some for SSL users also ? Doesn´t it ?

    -Yeti [96]

    Drug users would be unable to get SSL merits due to being locked out. SSL users choose not to care about drug merits. Nothing is stopping them from using drugs.

    BobbyBG [2501930]

    Except that keeping SSL unlocked requires not using them.
    That's still the choice they made knowing it would prevent drug use. At any time they can start using drugs again if they choose to get their merits, if they don't plan to ration their xan use.

    Unless the suggestion is to reset drug use so everyone can swap to SSL and have the option to gain the merit. But I'm sure SSL users would not be happy if everyone who used xanax to unlock gyms suddenly had access to SSL
    Last edited by -Yeti on 10:28:46 - 09/09/21

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    But there are alot of merits for drug users that SSL players can´t achieve. So makes sense that there is some for SSL users also ? Doesn´t it ?

    Adrenalinas [1974447]

    They can get all drug merits and don`t lose SSL gym. So no there is no sense to block someone from new merits
    Hmmm that is actually true. Good and valid point.


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    SSL forever <3

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    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    2900 days, 500m later and I want to use xanax already.

    Sports Science Lab users should get a merit and honour bar for this. Not using xanax, participating in chains, events, no happy jumps and getting gains without the use of xanax is an achievement in itself. Tired of getting beat up by noobs who only started playing yesterday.

    'Winners dont do drugs'

    Some designs:






    will post more designs as this thread progresses.

    It would make sense if these honour bars fall under the 'commitment' or as someone highlighted 'gym' section of the honour bar page. Or can be both, one for unlocking and purchasing SSL under 'gym' section and another for being a member for 1k days which would fall under 'commitment'.

    I know its a decision each SSL user made however, it should also be considered an achievement if trashing 5000 items in dump is considered an achievement worthy of a honour bar.

    Special thanks to majin-bUU for making the honour bars.

    For those saying that this is not fair as it is unattainable for drug users, you can say the same thing about SSL when it was introduced.

    Possible solution:

    • For completionists, allow xanax and ecstasy reset to 50.
    • A 'cold turkey' merit where could simply be for going drug free for maybe 6 months, while training X energy in the gym, doing X attacks etc... SSL users would get it from their natural playstyle, drug users could still obtain it.

    As Fermanagh said :
    Imo not all merits should be obtainable by everyone. Merits and awards are recognition of an achievement. Getting into SSL is a pretty big schoevement and shoe of dedication. Similarly, if an award is given out for a very specific milestone in torn history it should not be achievable by people who weren't there for the event the merit was given out for. A person who came in late and missed it it shouldn't have the merit later just for the sake of getting all of them. It takes away from the specialness of the award/merit for people who do have it

    Adrenalinas [1974447]

    No, I am against adding unattainable merits, some of us trying to reach as much as possible

    JohnnySniffles [2161226]

    But there are alot of merits for drug users that SSL players can´t achieve. So makes sense that there is some for SSL users also ? Doesn´t it ?

    -Yeti [96]

    Drug users would be unable to get SSL merits due to being locked out. SSL users choose not to care about drug merits. Nothing is stopping them from using drugs.

    BobbyBG [2501930]

    Except that keeping SSL unlocked requires not using them.

    -Yeti [96]

    That's still the choice they made knowing it would prevent drug use. At any time they can start using drugs again if they choose to get their merits, if they don't plan to ration their xan use.

    Unless the suggestion is to reset drug use so everyone can swap to SSL and have the option to gain the merit. But I'm sure SSL users would not be happy if everyone who used xanax to unlock gyms suddenly had access to SSL
    After reading some feedback, I have eddited OP, to include allow xanax and xtc reset to 50 so those locked out of SSL, have a hance to obtain it and the honour bars.
    Last edited by Seba_Nile on 11:16:31 - 09/09/21

     

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    Posted on 13:38:29 - 09/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    I think someone else already suggested this before, and I cannot agree with the implementation of Honor Bars/Awards that would forever lock people out of obtaining due to their choices in the game.
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    Posted on 16:39:33 - 09/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Riot [974353]

    Not a fan of introducing new unobtainable merits for those of us that made a decision years ago. I understand the need to justify using SSL but I don't think this is the way to do it tbh. I wouldn't be against another gym merit for obtaining membership in ANY special gym though, but perhaps that's too easy.

    Either way, sorry for the R-
    After reading some feedback, I have edited OP, to include allow xanax and xtc reset to 50 so those locked out of SSL, have a chance to obtain it and the honour bars.

     

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    Posted on 16:44:39 - 09/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    BobbyBG [2501930]

    Except that keeping SSL unlocked requires not using them.

    Adrenalinas [1974447]

    You still can use 50 all drugs and get all merits and keep SSL gym so about what you talk about?
    You can say the same thing about SSL when it was introduced. It was unattainable to those who already surpassed the limit of xanax and xtc.
    However I have edited my OP, to allow a xanax and xtc reset, for those wishing to get the SSL honour bar. Only costs about 500m to purchase the gym.

     

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