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Huge trades protected by (y) ammount of time.
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    Thread created on 23:07:22 - 25/10/15 (7 years ago)
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    Last replied 13:01:41 - 29/11/15 (7 years ago)
    Hello, I would like to personally suggest that when huge trades are made of hundreds of millions. Or maybe an amount over 100m for example or for those that seem to think 100m as petty, maybe 500m+ even? This money should just go to the bank to be held for an amount of (y) time kind of like bookie winnings.

    The reason for this is it is currently too easy to buy an item off a player and then mug them to get loads of your money back that you paid for the item.

    I'm not going for "easy" playstyle as mugging is clearly allowed and apart of the game, I am just suggesting when HUGE amounts of money are traded that players can't just be mugged and have large amounts of the money taken before they can even refresh the page.

    This suggestion was influenced towards bazaar trades, I mean a bazaar is kind of like a shop right? The money doesn't just go into your pocket unless you put it there.

    That's why I was suggesting it should go to bank or even maybe a bazaar "account" to be held to a minor amount of time.


    Any feedback on the idea would be great, please don't flame, feel free to even add your own suggestion to it.

    Thanks - Tom
    Last edited by General_Tom on 20:26:07 - 27/10/15
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    Posted on 15:49:14 - 26/10/15 (7 years ago)
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    Buy mugging is looked down upon quite a bit. I wouldn't be opposed to this being made impossible. Mugging was never intended to be a method for someone to make all their money.
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    Posted on 15:59:51 - 26/10/15 (7 years ago)
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    Changing Item Market to be an anonymous sales option and keeping bazaars as is would probably help. Not sure how much you pay when you add a listing to the market? Anyway, if people pay 5% of the listing price I see no problem with the listing being anonymous or hidden.

    I am not against a protection like you have suggested, I'm just against a 24hr protection. Make it 5-30s for bazaar and any transactions in the game, but don't protect people who checks in every 12 hours...

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    Posted on 21:18:31 - 26/10/15 (7 years ago)
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    Posted on 01:20:15 - 27/10/15 (7 years ago)
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    if its suggested on bazaar, im not agree because bazaar has its own open/closed button.
    but, if its related to the point market(encourage ppl to buy donator pack/trading points), im really agree.

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    Posted on 02:03:29 - 27/10/15 (7 years ago)
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    Well take for example, someone even buys something from your bazaar. The money is now put directly into your pocket, lets say its like 5-600m. Now only that person that bought the item knows you now have this money on you. Or when completing trades with someone even.

    They can then attack you before you even refresh the page to steal a chunk of that money you just made back off of you. That is what I don't think is very fair.

    So maybe even a few mins on a large a large transaction so it doesn't hugely affect trades, but gives players a chance to put the money away instead of just being open to be robbed before they can even react no matter the trade type.

    There could be a simple time limit set on a certain amount of money that is traded and gained in any form and that would simply solve this issue.
    Last edited by General_Tom on 06:12:16 - 27/10/15
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    Posted on 05:52:04 - 27/10/15 (7 years ago)
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    One simple suggestion for revolving around the same idea no matter the trade: Some sort of anti-buy mugging measure.

    It will be: That any ammount of money over a certain amount of (x) money will give you a (y) amount of time to do something with it before you can be mugged and have it stolen. (But not long enough to let inactive players just make money and be safe)

    This is probably the simplest way to promote trade, no matter what type. Be it Bazaar, Player to Player, Market, Etc.

    So that players don't have to worry about trading huge sums just to be mugged as soon the deal ends and lose a chunk of the money they earned.

    What is the point of trying to trade and interact if there isn't even a slight way to not get the short end of the stick?
    Last edited by General_Tom on 06:29:20 - 27/10/15
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    Posted on 08:49:38 - 27/10/15 (7 years ago)
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    whats the point of a crime game when everyones protected?
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    Posted on 13:57:50 - 27/10/15 (7 years ago)
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    Theres so many other ways to protect yourself that if your having issues with buy mugs your not doing it right.  As it is when a trader pays something for a large valued item he should be taking into account this difficulty in selling it in its value.
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    Posted on 14:07:11 - 27/10/15 (7 years ago)
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    Also doesnt this over 100 mil+ requirement only benefit the more rich players who can afford to sell 100 mil+ valued items?  One could argue they are the ones that need the least protection.
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    Posted on 14:18:26 - 27/10/15 (7 years ago)
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    This is terrible, 100m is not a huge amount of money, mugging is part of the game, learn to work around it or just quit playing. These suggestions come up all the time and they are all lame. I don't buy mug, I trade, I sell in my bazaar, I get mugged daily but most get $0 because I am careful.

    If this suggestion were to happen it could ruin the game for traders and muggers. R-
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    Posted on 14:34:24 - 27/10/15 (7 years ago)
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    I don't like trade/bazaar muggers either but they are part of the game.You can add them to blacklist and restrict transactions if you want.

    If your suggestion is implemented this update will kill off mugging.

    I will not be rating this suggestion, Sorry.
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    Posted on 19:41:07 - 27/10/15 (7 years ago)
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    Its not about "protecting" the rich, its about players that open a trade page and open an attack page as well on you. Then they buy your item and then click their weapon and instantly kill you, then mug you and steal a load of cash.

    How am I not doing it right if someone does this to me when they are a higher level? Are you going to tell me to quit using my bazaar?

    Get real, its not about killing off mugging either, its about preventing a double page buy mug attack. Giving players even a 15 sec period where they cant be insta mugged isn't gonna kill mugging.

    The 100m was a small suggestion, if you don't like it, why not suggest something more like 500m+ then?

    Also as I stated up top to clarify, the main point of the post was regarding bazaar trades. But I was also expanding it towards all trades since there are other types are buy-mugs.
    Last edited by General_Tom on 20:27:40 - 27/10/15
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    Posted on 23:05:53 - 27/10/15 (7 years ago)
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    "I mean a bazaar is kind of like a shop right? The money doesn't just go into your pocket unless you put it there."



    a bazaar is a market, ie your bazaar is actually just a table/stall in the market, so all your cash goes on hand

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    Posted on 06:52:29 - 28/10/15 (7 years ago)
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    I like the market idea being anon as you are paying a fee, not for bazaars or trades though.
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    Posted on 07:50:59 - 29/11/15 (7 years ago)
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    Uhh- two things I like:

    1. Anon sells.
    2. 1-min mug protection. That's it.
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    Posted on 13:01:41 - 29/11/15 (7 years ago)
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    Theres enough cautions people can take to make the chance of mugging 0

    1. Be online when selling in bazaar to hide your money in trades or factions if you trust the owner or a company if you own one
    2. Self hosp using blood bags or attack someone and lose
    3. Put items in bazaar and travel and make sure you are online when you land.
    4. Blacklist known buy muggers.

    I think this along with the idea of anon listing in item market makes it enough protection or else mugging will be ruined. As for the people who mug after trades you can get some legit traders try going to trading section and the traders with most R+ and comments

    Wont Rate either
    Last edited by Venomous on 13:02:17 - 29/11/15
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