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    Posted on 22:43:54 - 06/11/15 (6 years ago)
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    Jamster12312 [1196487]

    All this will do is help to buffer lactic acid, which can be bad dependent on your goals as elevated levels of lactic acid cause a greater release of hgh (human growth hormone)

    ultimatemaster [180173]

    Then train harder.

    Jamster12312 [1196487]

    That makes no sense.

    ultimatemaster [180173]

    Do more reps, use more weight.

    Jamster12312 [1196487]

    I struggle to see how that makes sense as a reply to what i said in the first place...

    ultimatemaster [180173]

    The baking soda will buffer lactic acid, so you can train harder with more reps, more reps will make more of a burn, more of a burn more lactic acid.
    Getting rid of the lactic acid would stop the elevated levels of HGH (human growth hormone). If you didn't buffer the lactic acid then the elevated levels of HGH would increase your gains anyway. 
    Yes you can avoid fatigue for longer with lactic acid being buffered so if an individual was to be marathon running then yes this would help them.
    It won't make you train harder, it may not even allow you to perform more reps in a set as generally weights are performed anaerobically.
    Burn doesn't always = more lactic acid either.
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    Posted on 05:45:09 - 03/12/15 (6 years ago)
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    Hello All,

    I am new to this forum :)

    Here's top supplements to use:



    Omega 3 fish oil

    Multivitamins

    cod liver oil

    Regards,
    Jean
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    Posted on 21:29:18 - 22/12/15 (6 years ago)
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    I'm surprised no one's mentioned creatine or casein.
    Creatine's one of our best sellers, an amino acid which boosts your energy production for a workout. Doesn't make you feel as mad as Pre-Workout which is just a cocktail of insanity.
    Casein's popular for slow-release protein, people tend to have it before they go to bed. Casein in hot chocolate drinks is becoming more and more popular.
    20g is the amount of protein you should be aiming for daily if you're training.
    BCAAs, Cod liver oil and multivits are big sellers too. Cod liver oil is popular for the Omega 3 fatty acids and Vitamins A and D. Vitamin D is particularly important for maintaining muscle mass. Vitamin C is good for reducing DOMS. But a good all-round multivitamin is important as you lose a lot of vitamins and minerals in your sweat.

    Though personally I only really take whey protein on workout days and my daily vitamins, but I'm not a gym bunny, I just workout enough to keep myself healthy. Just happen to have a lot of work in sports nutrition so I know what people buy.
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    Posted on 13:18:34 - 23/12/15 (6 years ago)
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    Gelosea [34]

    I'm surprised no one's mentioned creatine or casein.
    Creatine's one of our best sellers, an amino acid which boosts your energy production for a workout. Doesn't make you feel as mad as Pre-Workout which is just a cocktail of insanity.
    Casein's popular for slow-release protein, people tend to have it before they go to bed. Casein in hot chocolate drinks is becoming more and more popular.
    20g is the amount of protein you should be aiming for daily if you're training.
    BCAAs, Cod liver oil and multivits are big sellers too. Cod liver oil is popular for the Omega 3 fatty acids and Vitamins A and D. Vitamin D is particularly important for maintaining muscle mass. Vitamin C is good for reducing DOMS. But a good all-round multivitamin is important as you lose a lot of vitamins and minerals in your sweat.

    Though personally I only really take whey protein on workout days and my daily vitamins, but I'm not a gym bunny, I just workout enough to keep myself healthy. Just happen to have a lot of work in sports nutrition so I know what people buy.
    Yeah Creatine is great, I need to get some haven't taken any in about 6 months :/
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    Posted on 17:57:30 - 26/12/15 (6 years ago)
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    Test prop. 1ml twice a week.

                             The Lion does not concern itself with the yapping of a small dog..............

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    Posted on 23:42:10 - 13/01/16 (6 years ago)
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    I tried pre-workout protein but it just didn't work me at all.

    Now I take Elite protein 2-3 a day as well as Glutamine pills, been helping me get back in shape after my 4 year recovery.

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    Posted on 09:17:24 - 14/01/16 (6 years ago)
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    used to take creatine but really just ups water weight which isn't that appealing.. ended up dropping 3KG in water weight after stopping it.

    Currently just taking multi vits and Omega 3,6,9 - also take whey protein when doing weights but stopped that since i'm more focusing into cardio.

    Pre workout = coffee.
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    Posted on 09:36:33 - 14/01/16 (6 years ago)
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    Most pre workouts just give you explosive shits.

    My pre workout:
    1 scoop of BCAA's in a shaker with ice, lemon and mint.

    & then all you need is creatine and whey protein (unless you get a sufficient amount of protein in your diet).

    - I also use BCAA's before going out on a run or doing sport. But I only take like 1-3 scoops a day.
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    Posted on 17:59:11 - 17/01/16 (6 years ago)
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    I use milk in my protein.

    Since I'm more focused on trying get back to 220 and cut back to 205 during summer.

    Right now I'm at 215 and feeling good about myself.

    I cook so I make sure I cook only the food I need and might sneak in something I shouldn't eat once or twice a week at best.

    Usually drinking gatorade, juice, and water only, maybe a sprite out of the blue moon because i miss the taste lol.

    Cardio is good, but its like my personal trainer said you can only run so much before you just start burning off the muscles you gain or have now. So I might do cardio once a week maybe for 2 miles at best so I don't burn any muscles.

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    Posted on 11:15:12 - 18/01/16 (6 years ago)
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    I was 209lb, now Iv'e cut down to 196. Trying to stick to a clean diet, and pack on mass slowly. Iv'e had enough of eating shit :L
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    Posted on 16:11:24 - 22/01/16 (6 years ago)
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    well i love to eat lol, so i eat close to 5k calories a day and sometimes i eat over.

    i'm just bulking up for now because its winter time for me here and will cut back to 210 during summer hopefully.

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    Posted on 17:00:50 - 22/01/16 (6 years ago)
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    iiNzaneWarhead [1037464]

    well i love to eat lol, so i eat close to 5k calories a day and sometimes i eat over.

    i'm just bulking up for now because its winter time for me here and will cut back to 210 during summer hopefully.
    Clean bulk? Or just eating anything to hit your calorie goal?

    Iv'e been eating 5 meals a day, but I don't think Iv'e been consuming much calories considering.

    Normal day of eating for me is;

    Breakfast
    Porridge oats, milk and a banana.

    Lunch
    Chicken/fish, with wholegrain rice, quinoa and veg (broccoli).

    (5pm)
    Small bowl of rice and chicken or tuna - about 1/2 hours before going to the gym, this is purely do stop me from starving after work :L

    Preworkout:
    MF BCAA (1 scoop), water, lemon slice and ice.

    Post workout:
    Same as lunch pretty much, although I do eat pies and pizza n' stuff at times - not that strict.. don't want to be eating shitty tuna for the rest of my life, no thank you!

    Before bed:
    Small bowl of the following:

    1 kiwi fruit, fat free yogurt, almonds, and a small amount of oats.

    - Going to buy some whey protes and creatine when I get back from my holiday - aabsolutely skint atm.

    Probs not the best diet, but fak it, it's all I can get my hands on :L
    Last edited by Lasky on 17:01:40 - 22/01/16
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    Posted on 02:21:35 - 23/01/16 (6 years ago)
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    lasky - i'll eat mainly chicken and fish with eggs mixed in with it.

    I eat oatmeal, yogurt, COD fish with egg on it for breakfast.

    About 3-4 hours later i will eat chicken with rice.

    Not long after I will eat more chicken, rice, banana, and almonds!

    Due to be just wanting to bulk though, I will usually eat anything except red meat! Really hard to lose the fat after eating red meat, which I might do once every 2-4 weeks as long as I think I'm good where I am at now.

    I always mix my protein with 2 eggs and 10-12oz of milk though just because i'm bulking and hardly ever do cardio.
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    Posted on 09:52:30 - 23/01/16 (5 years ago)
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    Nice! I had a KFC yesterday:'/ :-(

    I'm doing quite a bit of cardio atm (along with gymming it) - circuit training Monday, football training Wednesday and football games on sat along with jogging every now and again.

    How long have you been bulking for?
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    Posted on 16:26:06 - 23/01/16 (5 years ago)
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    Well see the problem with cardio is the more you do, the more muscles that you have now will burn off so its quite pointless to keep on doing cardio a lot.

    I have for 3 months. Went from 181 to 216 now and now i gotta buy bigger shirts lol.

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    Posted on 17:10:12 - 23/01/16 (5 years ago)
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    Surely that just depends on your calorie intake in relation to the amount of cardio that you do? If you're burning more than you consume then both muscle and fat will begin to break down?

    I read somewhere (no idea if it's true or just broscience) that high intensity sprints actually aids muscle growth.

    I'm lighter at the moment than I've ever been, but I feel more muscular than I did when I weighed 6 kilos more.. but that's obviously because I've lost fat.

    Also I'm doing cardio because I'm sick of being absolutely knackered when I play football xD

    Haha, it sucks when you no longer fit in your clothes, I've got some really nice shirts that I can't wear anymore :(
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    Posted on 18:48:13 - 23/01/16 (5 years ago)
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    Well my trainer who has been a trainer for over 20 years(i think) and owns his own business told me its not good to run more than 2 miles all you're doing is just burning your muscles away regardless how much you eat.

    I might run 1-2 miles every 2-4 weeks, but I try my best not to mess with cardio much by running. If I wanna do some cardio work I'll just wrestle some people or put on the boxing gloves(which i prefer better) to do my cardio! I think it helps out a lot, doing 3-5 rounds at 5 minutes a time with a 30 second - 1 minute break in between.

    As my trainer said though he focuses more on upper body about 4 times a week and is a big guy! If you like, you can look him up on facebook about his page and talk to him more about it. I do my best to visit his store 2 times a month to help out his business and keep it in my town!
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    Posted on 16:29:06 - 26/01/16 (5 years ago)
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    iiNzaneWarhead [1037464]

    Well my trainer who has been a trainer for over 20 years(i think) and owns his own business told me its not good to run more than 2 miles all you're doing is just burning your muscles away regardless how much you eat.

    I might run 1-2 miles every 2-4 weeks, but I try my best not to mess with cardio much by running. If I wanna do some cardio work I'll just wrestle some people or put on the boxing gloves(which i prefer better) to do my cardio! I think it helps out a lot, doing 3-5 rounds at 5 minutes a time with a 30 second - 1 minute break in between.

    As my trainer said though he focuses more on upper body about 4 times a week and is a big guy! If you like, you can look him up on facebook about his page and talk to him more about it. I do my best to visit his store 2 times a month to help out his business and keep it in my town!
    You will only start to lose muscle mass from doing cardio if you have an inadequate calorie intake and also inadequate protein intake. 
    Do marathon runners burn away their muscle because they run daily? If they did they would very quickly have no muscle left.
    So to answer Lasky, yes you are right, it is dependent on your diet.
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    Posted on 21:41:40 - 26/01/16 (5 years ago)
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    iiNzaneWarhead [1037464]

    Well my trainer who has been a trainer for over 20 years(i think) and owns his own business told me its not good to run more than 2 miles all you're doing is just burning your muscles away regardless how much you eat.

    I might run 1-2 miles every 2-4 weeks, but I try my best not to mess with cardio much by running. If I wanna do some cardio work I'll just wrestle some people or put on the boxing gloves(which i prefer better) to do my cardio! I think it helps out a lot, doing 3-5 rounds at 5 minutes a time with a 30 second - 1 minute break in between.

    As my trainer said though he focuses more on upper body about 4 times a week and is a big guy! If you like, you can look him up on facebook about his page and talk to him more about it. I do my best to visit his store 2 times a month to help out his business and keep it in my town!

    Jamster12312 [1196487]

    You will only start to lose muscle mass from doing cardio if you have an inadequate calorie intake and also inadequate protein intake.
    Do marathon runners burn away their muscle because they run daily? If they did they would very quickly have no muscle left.
    So to answer Lasky, yes you are right, it is dependent on your diet.
    Yeah they do burn away muscle if they're running longer periods daily. When was the last time you saw a lean marathon runner with muscle mass? 

    Your body burns energy in a structured and specific way.

    It's nonsense to say you can run 3h a day as long as you take in 25k calories to offset your running and not lose muscle mass (obvi that nr is exagerated), which still wouldn't work.

    That being said, everyone needs a bif of cardio, but you wanna pick the right type. Long runs are not good for muscle-ing.

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    Posted on 22:12:47 - 26/01/16 (5 years ago)
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    iiNzaneWarhead [1037464]

    Well my trainer who has been a trainer for over 20 years(i think) and owns his own business told me its not good to run more than 2 miles all you're doing is just burning your muscles away regardless how much you eat.

    I might run 1-2 miles every 2-4 weeks, but I try my best not to mess with cardio much by running. If I wanna do some cardio work I'll just wrestle some people or put on the boxing gloves(which i prefer better) to do my cardio! I think it helps out a lot, doing 3-5 rounds at 5 minutes a time with a 30 second - 1 minute break in between.

    As my trainer said though he focuses more on upper body about 4 times a week and is a big guy! If you like, you can look him up on facebook about his page and talk to him more about it. I do my best to visit his store 2 times a month to help out his business and keep it in my town!

    Jamster12312 [1196487]

    You will only start to lose muscle mass from doing cardio if you have an inadequate calorie intake and also inadequate protein intake.
    Do marathon runners burn away their muscle because they run daily? If they did they would very quickly have no muscle left.
    So to answer Lasky, yes you are right, it is dependent on your diet.

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    Yeah they do burn away muscle if they're running longer periods daily. When was the last time you saw a lean marathon runner with muscle mass?

    Your body burns energy in a structured and specific way.

    It's nonsense to say you can run 3h a day as long as you take in 25k calories to offset your running and not lose muscle mass (obvi that nr is exagerated), which still wouldn't work.

    That being said, everyone needs a bif of cardio, but you wanna pick the right type. Long runs are not good for muscle-ing.
    For starters there aren't many marathon runners who aren't lean....
    Of course a marathon runner has muscle mass, not a huge amount because that is an adaptation they need for their sport, but they do have some muscle mass, predominantly in the lower body.
    And i am completely familiar with the bodies energy systems.
    Now if we took your stance and said that muscle burns away if you run long distances daily regardless of nutrition, these guys would slowly lose the muscle in their legs and their performance would slowly decline and if they kept losing muscle mass they would eventually struggle to run, except that doesn't happen as marathon runners take in the appropriate amount of calories to keep them that same size and repair the micro tears in the muscle post running. But it needs to be good nutrition not just shoveling a big mac down after a run.

    Now don't mistake what I'm saying, you would likely find it very hard to make gains but it is completely possible to maintain size whilst running distances with proper nutrition (BCAA's would be very handy for this). Obviously this is within reason, if someone like thor bjornsson starting doing 5 mile jogs daily it would be a case of he cannot eat enough food to maintain that size... but generally it is possible within reason.
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