Capgros [2088627]

I admire your dedication to think you can have a serious discussion with someone that thinks we should be ruled by wannabe dictators like Peter thiel

A707 [2600371]

Ah, let's see how that works out for them... I am just going to laugh when they start starving.

A707 [2600371]

Ah, let's see how that works out for them... I am just going to laugh when they start starving.

broleaf [3140943]

In the context to what?

A707 [2600371]

Ah, let's see how that works out for them... I am just going to laugh when they start starving.

broleaf [3140943]

In the context to what?

A707 [2600371]

They haven't took the example of the uk to show what happens when you leave the eu, which this leader is so fond of. I'll laugh at them for voting him in

A707 [2600371]

Ah, let's see how that works out for them... I am just going to laugh when they start starving.

broleaf [3140943]

In the context to what?

A707 [2600371]

They haven't took the example of the uk to show what happens when you leave the eu, which this leader is so fond of. I'll laugh at them for voting him in

broleaf [3140943]

I don't see the UK starving; if anything, it's speeding up the process for CANZUK.

A707 [2600371]

Ah, let's see how that works out for them... I am just going to laugh when they start starving.

broleaf [3140943]

In the context to what?

A707 [2600371]

They haven't took the example of the uk to show what happens when you leave the eu, which this leader is so fond of. I'll laugh at them for voting him in

broleaf [3140943]

I don't see the UK starving; if anything, it's speeding up the process for CANZUK.

A707 [2600371]

I'm in the uk, we have had the worst economic experience in 300 years. Ie, people who were working for less than a penny per hour saw the economy do better than what we are going through.

Poverty is through the roof, almost a quarter of the population cannot afford basic amenities. It's a conservative shitshow

A707 [2600371]

Ah, let's see how that works out for them... I am just going to laugh when they start starving.

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broleaf [3140943]

In the context to what?

A707 [2600371]

They haven't took the example of the uk to show what happens when you leave the eu, which this leader is so fond of. I'll laugh at them for voting him in

broleaf [3140943]

I don't see the UK starving; if anything, it's speeding up the process for CANZUK.

A707 [2600371]

I'm in the uk, we have had the worst economic experience in 300 years. Ie, people who were working for less than a penny per hour saw the economy do better than what we are going through.

Poverty is through the roof, almost a quarter of the population cannot afford basic amenities. It's a conservative shitshow

broleaf [3140943]

Do you have any data to back up your claim? Show me specific instances of people in the UK starving to death. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the influx of illegal immigrants, by the way, or a culmination of issues prior to Brexit, such as national debt and unfunded liabilities.

broleaf [3140943]

In the context to what?

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A707 [2600371]

They haven't took the example of the uk to show what happens when you leave the eu, which this leader is so fond of. I'll laugh at them for voting him in

broleaf [3140943]

I don't see the UK starving; if anything, it's speeding up the process for CANZUK.

A707 [2600371]

I'm in the uk, we have had the worst economic experience in 300 years. Ie, people who were working for less than a penny per hour saw the economy do better than what we are going through.

Poverty is through the roof, almost a quarter of the population cannot afford basic amenities. It's a conservative shitshow

broleaf [3140943]

Do you have any data to back up your claim? Show me specific instances of people in the UK starving to death. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the influx of illegal immigrants, by the way, or a culmination of issues prior to Brexit, such as national debt and unfunded liabilities.

A707 [2600371]

When did I say to death?

Anyway here's your sources for food insecurity

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/one-four-uk-single-parent-households-unable-afford-food-2023-07-14/&ved=2ahUKEwjUncChguOCAxUg_rsIHbNUDGIQFnoECC4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw1szxnnFrz-4M6584XML2ia

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/food-prices-hunger-food-bank-benefits-b2364928.html&ved=2ahUKEwjUncChguOCAxUg_rsIHbNUDGIQFnoECDQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2shAQT3Xbtt3VRJTluzqSn

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9209/%23:~:text%3DAccording%2520to%2520the%2520Department%2520for,%252C%2520including%252021%2525%2520of%2520children.&ved=2ahUKEwjUncChguOCAxUg_rsIHbNUDGIQFnoECA0QBQ&usg=AOvVaw1WrPpzOrYAC9AZ-M7AgTX_

Here's your sources for the cost of brexit

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-31/brexit-is-costing-the-uk-100-billion-a-year-in-lost-output

https://www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-assembly-does/questions-mayor/find-an-answer/cost-brexit-0#:~:text=Bloomberg%20found%20that%20Brexit%20is,economy%20each%20year%20since%202020%3F

And here's your sources for immigration

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/economics/about-department/fiscal-effects-immigration-uk#:~:text=Immigrants%20from%20outside%20the%20EU,contribution%20of%20%C2%A3616.5%20billion.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/illegal-migration-bill-factsheets/illegal-migration-bill-overarching-factsheet



And yet you are still going to try to argue that the 6 billion per year spent on immigrants is worse than the 100b per year that brexit costs us.

A707 [2600371]

They haven't took the example of the uk to show what happens when you leave the eu, which this leader is so fond of. I'll laugh at them for voting him in

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broleaf [3140943]

I don't see the UK starving; if anything, it's speeding up the process for CANZUK.

A707 [2600371]

I'm in the uk, we have had the worst economic experience in 300 years. Ie, people who were working for less than a penny per hour saw the economy do better than what we are going through.

Poverty is through the roof, almost a quarter of the population cannot afford basic amenities. It's a conservative shitshow

broleaf [3140943]

Do you have any data to back up your claim? Show me specific instances of people in the UK starving to death. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the influx of illegal immigrants, by the way, or a culmination of issues prior to Brexit, such as national debt and unfunded liabilities.

A707 [2600371]

When did I say to death?

Anyway here's your sources for food insecurity

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/one-four-uk-single-parent-households-unable-afford-food-2023-07-14/&ved=2ahUKEwjUncChguOCAxUg_rsIHbNUDGIQFnoECC4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw1szxnnFrz-4M6584XML2ia

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/food-prices-hunger-food-bank-benefits-b2364928.html&ved=2ahUKEwjUncChguOCAxUg_rsIHbNUDGIQFnoECDQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2shAQT3Xbtt3VRJTluzqSn

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9209/%23:~:text%3DAccording%2520to%2520the%2520Department%2520for,%252C%2520including%252021%2525%2520of%2520children.&ved=2ahUKEwjUncChguOCAxUg_rsIHbNUDGIQFnoECA0QBQ&usg=AOvVaw1WrPpzOrYAC9AZ-M7AgTX_

Here's your sources for the cost of brexit

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-31/brexit-is-costing-the-uk-100-billion-a-year-in-lost-output

https://www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-assembly-does/questions-mayor/find-an-answer/cost-brexit-0#:~:text=Bloomberg%20found%20that%20Brexit%20is,economy%20each%20year%20since%202020%3F

And here's your sources for immigration

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/economics/about-department/fiscal-effects-immigration-uk#:~:text=Immigrants%20from%20outside%20the%20EU,contribution%20of%20%C2%A3616.5%20billion.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/illegal-migration-bill-factsheets/illegal-migration-bill-overarching-factsheet



And yet you are still going to try to argue that the 6 billion per year spent on immigrants is worse than the 100b per year that brexit costs us.

broleaf [3140943]

When did I say to death?

Anyway here's your sources for food insecurity

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/one-four-uk-single-parent-households-unable-afford-food-2023-07-14/&ved=2ahUKEwjUncChguOCAxUg_rsIHbNUDGIQFnoECC4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw1szxnnFrz-4M6584XML2ia

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/food-prices-hunger-food-bank-benefits-b2364928.html&ved=2ahUKEwjUncChguOCAxUg_rsIHbNUDGIQFnoECDQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2shAQT3Xbtt3VRJTluzqSn

I don't see a mention of Brexit in the article. However, I will argue that mass immigration of low-skilled labor contributes to the rising costs of living and suppresses wages. This could potentially fuel a food crisis. The decline in the UK's birthrate suggests that wages should be increasing, and deflation should be occurring, but it's not, primarily due to immigration.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9209/%23:~:text%3DAccording%2520to%2520the%2520Department%2520for,%252C%2520including%252021%2525%2520of%2520children.&ved=2ahUKEwjUncChguOCAxUg_rsIHbNUDGIQFnoECA0QBQ&usg=AOvVaw1WrPpzOrYAC9AZ-M7AgTX_

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Here's your sources for the cost of brexit

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-31/brexit-is-costing-the-uk-100-billion-a-year-in-lost-output

I can't read this article; it's members only. Please provide a screenshot, or I'll have to discard it.

https://www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-assembly-does/questions-mayor/find-an-answer/cost-brexit-0#:~:text=Bloomberg%20found%20that%20Brexit%20is,economy%20each%20year%20since%202020%3F

Answer


Date: Tuesday 28 February 2023
Officers are drafting a response.


Date: Friday 28 April 2023
To date there has been no modelling exercise of Brexit's impact on London's economy since 2020. However, in 2021, CEBR estimated in the Trade and Cooperation Agreement – London impact (a report they produced for the GLA) that the initial loss for London's economy as a result of Brexit would be £9.5 billion a year.


"This article contradicts the Bloomberg article; next time, please don't copy-paste articles without checking them first.

And here's your sources for immigration

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/economics/about-department/fiscal-effects-immigration-uk#:~:text=Immigrants%20from%20outside%20the%20EU,contribution%20of%20%C2%A3616.5%20billion.

The current broken asylum system costs the UK around £3 billion a year and rising and around £6 million a day on hotel bills. Doing nothing is not a cost-free option as the continued arrival of tens of thousands of illegal migrants each year places new burdens on central and local government and other local services.Jul 20, 2023

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/illegal-migration-bill-factsheets/illegal-migration-bill-overarching-factsheet#:~:text=The%20current%20broken%20asylum%20system%20costs%20the%20UK%20around%20%C2%A3,government%20and%20other%20local%20services.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/illegal-migration-bill-factsheets/illegal-migration-bill-overarching-factsheet



And yet you are still going to try to argue that the 6 billion per year spent on immigrants is worse than the 100b per year that brexit costs us.

That 100b figure is proven in one of your articles as false.

A707 [2600371]

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/one-seven-britons-faced-hunger-2022-says-food-bank-charity-2023-06-27/

Also, the 9.8 billion ks only for London. The amount specified in the Bloomberg article fir the whole of the UK was over 100 billion

Also, brexit has cost billions for the average household in food prices

https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research

A707 [2600371]

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/one-seven-britons-faced-hunger-2022-says-food-bank-charity-2023-06-27/

Also, the 9.8 billion ks only for London. The amount specified in the Bloomberg article fir the whole of the UK was over 100 billion

Also, brexit has cost billions for the average household in food prices

https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research

broleaf [3140943]

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/one-seven-britons-faced-hunger-2022-says-food-bank-charity-2023-06-27/
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By the end of 2021, Brexit had already cost UK households a total of £5.8 billion in higher food bills – new LSE research

I still don't see this massive starvation event. If you're concerned about the costs of food and living, this could be fixed by change in immigration policy perhaps a extensive repatriation program. Perhaps consider further development of your agriculture also. As for the Brexit we already see Germany in a economic crisis and their in the EU.

A707 [2600371]

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/one-seven-britons-faced-hunger-2022-says-food-bank-charity-2023-06-27/

Also, the 9.8 billion ks only for London. The amount specified in the Bloomberg article fir the whole of the UK was over 100 billion

Also, brexit has cost billions for the average household in food prices

https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research

broleaf [3140943]

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/one-seven-britons-faced-hunger-2022-says-food-bank-charity-2023-06-27/
cant view post screen cap.

By the end of 2021, Brexit had already cost UK households a total of £5.8 billion in higher food bills – new LSE research

I still don't see this massive starvation event. If you're concerned about the costs of food and living, this could be fixed by change in immigration policy perhaps a extensive repatriation program. Perhaps consider further development of your agriculture also. As for the Brexit we already see Germany in a economic crisis and their in the EU.

A707 [2600371]

You mean the same immigration program in which previous sources provided have showed had a positive effect on the economy.

Anyway, we have lost a large number of our Polish workforce because of beexit, we need migrant labour.

A707 [2600371]

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/one-seven-britons-faced-hunger-2022-says-food-bank-charity-2023-06-27/

Also, the 9.8 billion ks only for London. The amount specified in the Bloomberg article fir the whole of the UK was over 100 billion

Also, brexit has cost billions for the average household in food prices

https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research

broleaf [3140943]

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/one-seven-britons-faced-hunger-2022-says-food-bank-charity-2023-06-27/
cant view post screen cap.

By the end of 2021, Brexit had already cost UK households a total of £5.8 billion in higher food bills – new LSE research

I still don't see this massive starvation event. If you're concerned about the costs of food and living, this could be fixed by change in immigration policy perhaps a extensive repatriation program. Perhaps consider further development of your agriculture also. As for the Brexit we already see Germany in a economic crisis and their in the EU.

A707 [2600371]

You mean the same immigration program in which previous sources provided have showed had a positive effect on the economy.

Anyway, we have lost a large number of our Polish workforce because of beexit, we need migrant labour.

broleaf [3140943]

The economy, yes; the cost of living, no. There are also rising costs associated with unfunded liabilities and strain on infrastructure. The key is GDP per capita, not GDP overall, when we talk about the latter subjects. If not, why not use China as the benchmark of prosperity? One can't complain about a housing crisis and a living crisis while simultaneously importing almost 1 million people. The UK obviously needs to rebalance its post-Brexit economy and remove the dead weight.