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    Posted on 02:56:12 - 21/11/23 (4 months ago)
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    A707 [2600371]

    Oh, I ain't for constitutional rights, I just thought you were

    Madgod [1733719]

    You don't think a country should have a charter of rights at all?

    A707 [2600371]

    No, I just don't think that this 300 year old document should be held so highly, especially considering that some of the people that wrote it were the scum of the earth.

    Thomas jefferson ****d his underage female slave, you do know?

    EddieLee706 [1591144]

    That doesn't matter.

    The Constitution only applied to white men at the time.

    A707 [2600371]

    I'm pretty sure it was only applied when they wanted it to apply. People seem to forget that the first decades of the us were basically a dictatorship

    Asbestos [2605613]

    dictatorship monarchy
    I live under a monarchy, it's pretty boring when it's not absolute. The king doesn't mind having police attack people protesting at his coronation tho.
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    Posted on 02:57:19 - 21/11/23 (4 months ago)
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    A707 [2600371]

    Oh, I ain't for constitutional rights, I just thought you were

    Madgod [1733719]

    You don't think a country should have a charter of rights at all?

    A707 [2600371]

    No, I just don't think that this 300 year old document should be held so highly, especially considering that some of the people that wrote it were the scum of the earth.

    Thomas jefferson ****d his underage female slave, you do know?

    EddieLee706 [1591144]

    That doesn't matter.

    The Constitution only applied to white men at the time.

    A707 [2600371]

    I'm pretty sure it was only applied when they wanted it to apply. People seem to forget that the first decades of the us were basically a dictatorship

    EddieLee706 [1591144]

    The first few decades


    Don't stop there you mean since its inception
    And forevermore
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    Posted on 03:02:23 - 21/11/23 (4 months ago)
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    A707 [2600371]

    Oh, I ain't for constitutional rights, I just thought you were

    Madgod [1733719]

    You don't think a country should have a charter of rights at all?

    A707 [2600371]

    No, I just don't think that this 300 year old document should be held so highly, especially considering that some of the people that wrote it were the scum of the earth.

    Thomas jefferson ****d his underage female slave, you do know?

    EddieLee706 [1591144]

    That doesn't matter.

    The Constitution only applied to white men at the time.

    A707 [2600371]

    I'm pretty sure it was only applied when they wanted it to apply. People seem to forget that the first decades of the us were basically a dictatorship

    Asbestos [2605613]

    dictatorship monarchy
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    NRx. Reject Modernity return to: Tradition, Monarchy, Spirit.

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    Posted on 03:06:42 - 21/11/23 (4 months ago)
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    Lmao, faether was happy to try justify the school shooter who killed a bunch of kids, but opposes Rittenhouse killing a convicted ***** in self defence.

    legit couldn’t write it, absolutely comical.

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    Posted on 03:07:38 - 21/11/23 (4 months ago)
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    Intricate [1957884]

    What was going on at a Kenosha was far from a protest.

    A707 [2600371]

    Whatever you want to call it, it was people exercising their free speech

    Asbestos [2605613]

    Sir, at this point I must insist that you be truthful or any discussion with you is silly masturbation.

    Free speech means things you *say* or express. Not things that you do. This was a violent riot. Actual numbers vary a little, but approximately 40 buildings (some reporte are as high as 56) were burned down, and another 100 damaged for a total of over 50 million dollars in damages. That doesn’t even count the numerous cars that were burned and city infrastructure that was destroyed (street lights and the like).

    The national guard was deployed.

    That is not free speech. That is not discourse in the town square. If that is the assertion you want to make, do it properly - in clown makeup.


    We can definitely talk about Kyle and in particular whether he should have been there. We will find agreement in that place. We will not find agreement on the elements where you are just making stuff up.

    edit: this might have been written a little dickish. Apologies. I don’t think we are that far apart.

    A707 [2600371]

    And the vast majority were not arrested. So yeah, most of it was protected.

    Asbestos [2605613]

    You’re sticking with the “peaceful gathering of protesters voicing their opinions” huh?

    If the police don’t have manpower and transportation enough to arrest everyone (and visibility to see who commits the felonies in real time) then it de facto means peaceful protest?

    This is some gaslighting that would even make Seba_Nile feel warm and fuzzy inside.

    A707 [2600371]

    Bro, have you seen what the police force have? They have military grade equipment ffs. If they wanted to arrest people, they wouldve
    Bro, no you didn’t. Ok. Let’s unpack this, because you are so barking up the wrong tree on this one. 


    1. Yes. If you want, I can get you a tour. Virtually every city has an annual open house of some kind and brings out all the gear for you to look at.
    2. Anyone who has been in or around the military knows that “military grade” means the cheapest, heaviest, mass produced piece of shit that minimally meets the bid requirements. You’re just saying buzzwords because you think it makes you look cool. It doesn’t.
    3. To arrest someone you need to know who to arrest from the crowd. That often happens via investigation after the fact (see #5 below).
    4. Arresting someone means that officers are off the street and dealing with booking etc, which can be an 8 hour process, particularly if they have to swing by the local county hospital for a medical check (common) on the way. That’s less people to deal with a crowd which severely outnumber them, creating an even more dangerous situation where a higher level use of force potentially becomes more likely.
    5. You’re just wrong anyway. 250 people were arrested at the time, and another 55 were charged later as things were investigated.
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    Posted on 03:07:56 - 21/11/23 (4 months ago)
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    Odin-All-Father [2010524]

    Lmao, faether was happy to try justify the school shooter who killed a bunch of kids, but opposes Rittenhouse killing a convicted ***** in self defence.

    legit couldn’t write it, absolutely comical.
    That's crazy
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    Posted on 03:09:16 - 21/11/23 (4 months ago)
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    A707 [2600371]

    Whatever you want to call it, it was people exercising their free speech

    Asbestos [2605613]

    Sir, at this point I must insist that you be truthful or any discussion with you is silly masturbation.

    Free speech means things you *say* or express. Not things that you do. This was a violent riot. Actual numbers vary a little, but approximately 40 buildings (some reporte are as high as 56) were burned down, and another 100 damaged for a total of over 50 million dollars in damages. That doesn’t even count the numerous cars that were burned and city infrastructure that was destroyed (street lights and the like).

    The national guard was deployed.

    That is not free speech. That is not discourse in the town square. If that is the assertion you want to make, do it properly - in clown makeup.


    We can definitely talk about Kyle and in particular whether he should have been there. We will find agreement in that place. We will not find agreement on the elements where you are just making stuff up.

    edit: this might have been written a little dickish. Apologies. I don’t think we are that far apart.

    A707 [2600371]

    And the vast majority were not arrested. So yeah, most of it was protected.

    Asbestos [2605613]

    You’re sticking with the “peaceful gathering of protesters voicing their opinions” huh?

    If the police don’t have manpower and transportation enough to arrest everyone (and visibility to see who commits the felonies in real time) then it de facto means peaceful protest?

    This is some gaslighting that would even make Seba_Nile feel warm and fuzzy inside.

    A707 [2600371]

    Bro, have you seen what the police force have? They have military grade equipment ffs. If they wanted to arrest people, they wouldve

    Asbestos [2605613]

    Bro, no you didn’t. Ok. Let’s unpack this, because you are so barking up the wrong tree on this one.


    1. Yes. If you want, I can get you a tour. Virtually every city has an annual open house of some kind and brings out all the gear for you to look at.
    2. Anyone who has been in or around the military knows that “military grade” means the cheapest, heaviest, mass produced piece of shit that minimally meets the bid requirements. You’re just saying buzzwords because you think it makes you look cool. It doesn’t.
    3. To arrest someone you need to know who to arrest from the crowd. That often happens via investigation after the fact (see #5 below).
    4. Arresting someone means that officers are off the street and dealing with booking etc, which can be an 8 hour process, particularly if they have to swing by the local county hospital for a medical check (common) on the way. That’s less people to deal with a crowd which severely outnumber them, creating an even more dangerous situation where a higher level use of force potentially becomes more likely.
    5. You’re just wrong anyway. 250 people were arrested at the time, and another 55 were charged later as things were investigated.
    55 people out of how many? Exactly. It was a miniscule amount of people who didn't go there to protest
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    Posted on 03:11:20 - 21/11/23 (4 months ago)
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    Madgod [1733719]

    You don't think a country should have a charter of rights at all?

    A707 [2600371]

    No, I just don't think that this 300 year old document should be held so highly, especially considering that some of the people that wrote it were the scum of the earth.

    Thomas jefferson ****d his underage female slave, you do know?

    EddieLee706 [1591144]

    That doesn't matter.

    The Constitution only applied to white men at the time.

    A707 [2600371]

    I'm pretty sure it was only applied when they wanted it to apply. People seem to forget that the first decades of the us were basically a dictatorship

    Asbestos [2605613]

    dictatorship monarchy

    A707 [2600371]

    I live under a monarchy, it's pretty boring when it's not absolute. The king doesn't mind having police attack people protesting at his coronation tho.
    Ok. This explains why you don’t seem to know as much about the US as you think. Reasonable.
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    Posted on 03:13:07 - 21/11/23 (4 months ago)
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    A707 [2600371]

    No, I just don't think that this 300 year old document should be held so highly, especially considering that some of the people that wrote it were the scum of the earth.

    Thomas jefferson ****d his underage female slave, you do know?

    EddieLee706 [1591144]

    That doesn't matter.

    The Constitution only applied to white men at the time.

    A707 [2600371]

    I'm pretty sure it was only applied when they wanted it to apply. People seem to forget that the first decades of the us were basically a dictatorship

    Asbestos [2605613]

    dictatorship monarchy

    A707 [2600371]

    I live under a monarchy, it's pretty boring when it's not absolute. The king doesn't mind having police attack people protesting at his coronation tho.

    Asbestos [2605613]

    Ok. This explains why you don’t seem to know as much about the US as you think. Reasonable.
    And I still haven't said anything false
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    Posted on 03:13:56 - 21/11/23 (4 months ago)
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    Asbestos [2605613]

    Sir, at this point I must insist that you be truthful or any discussion with you is silly masturbation.

    Free speech means things you *say* or express. Not things that you do. This was a violent riot. Actual numbers vary a little, but approximately 40 buildings (some reporte are as high as 56) were burned down, and another 100 damaged for a total of over 50 million dollars in damages. That doesn’t even count the numerous cars that were burned and city infrastructure that was destroyed (street lights and the like).

    The national guard was deployed.

    That is not free speech. That is not discourse in the town square. If that is the assertion you want to make, do it properly - in clown makeup.


    We can definitely talk about Kyle and in particular whether he should have been there. We will find agreement in that place. We will not find agreement on the elements where you are just making stuff up.

    edit: this might have been written a little dickish. Apologies. I don’t think we are that far apart.

    A707 [2600371]

    And the vast majority were not arrested. So yeah, most of it was protected.

    Asbestos [2605613]

    You’re sticking with the “peaceful gathering of protesters voicing their opinions” huh?

    If the police don’t have manpower and transportation enough to arrest everyone (and visibility to see who commits the felonies in real time) then it de facto means peaceful protest?

    This is some gaslighting that would even make Seba_Nile feel warm and fuzzy inside.

    A707 [2600371]

    Bro, have you seen what the police force have? They have military grade equipment ffs. If they wanted to arrest people, they wouldve

    Asbestos [2605613]

    Bro, no you didn’t. Ok. Let’s unpack this, because you are so barking up the wrong tree on this one.


    1. Yes. If you want, I can get you a tour. Virtually every city has an annual open house of some kind and brings out all the gear for you to look at.
    2. Anyone who has been in or around the military knows that “military grade” means the cheapest, heaviest, mass produced piece of shit that minimally meets the bid requirements. You’re just saying buzzwords because you think it makes you look cool. It doesn’t.
    3. To arrest someone you need to know who to arrest from the crowd. That often happens via investigation after the fact (see #5 below).
    4. Arresting someone means that officers are off the street and dealing with booking etc, which can be an 8 hour process, particularly if they have to swing by the local county hospital for a medical check (common) on the way. That’s less people to deal with a crowd which severely outnumber them, creating an even more dangerous situation where a higher level use of force potentially becomes more likely.
    5. You’re just wrong anyway. 250 people were arrested at the time, and another 55 were charged later as things were investigated.

    A707 [2600371]

    55 people out of how many? Exactly. It was a miniscule amount of people who didn't go there to protest
    Moving the goalposts now?  Before it was all about “the police could have arrested people if they wanted to” and now 305 (see how you cherry picked the numbers there) isn’t good enough for you?

    Dude. Not a peaceful protest. Violent riot so bad that they called in the military.
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    Posted on 03:14:20 - 21/11/23 (4 months ago)
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    A707 [2600371]

    And I still haven't said anything false
    That statement itself is false.
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    Posted on 03:15:40 - 21/11/23 (4 months ago)
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    Asbestos [2605613]

    Sir, at this point I must insist that you be truthful or any discussion with you is silly masturbation.

    Free speech means things you *say* or express. Not things that you do. This was a violent riot. Actual numbers vary a little, but approximately 40 buildings (some reporte are as high as 56) were burned down, and another 100 damaged for a total of over 50 million dollars in damages. That doesn’t even count the numerous cars that were burned and city infrastructure that was destroyed (street lights and the like).

    The national guard was deployed.

    That is not free speech. That is not discourse in the town square. If that is the assertion you want to make, do it properly - in clown makeup.


    We can definitely talk about Kyle and in particular whether he should have been there. We will find agreement in that place. We will not find agreement on the elements where you are just making stuff up.

    edit: this might have been written a little dickish. Apologies. I don’t think we are that far apart.

    A707 [2600371]

    And the vast majority were not arrested. So yeah, most of it was protected.

    Asbestos [2605613]

    You’re sticking with the “peaceful gathering of protesters voicing their opinions” huh?

    If the police don’t have manpower and transportation enough to arrest everyone (and visibility to see who commits the felonies in real time) then it de facto means peaceful protest?

    This is some gaslighting that would even make Seba_Nile feel warm and fuzzy inside.

    A707 [2600371]

    Bro, have you seen what the police force have? They have military grade equipment ffs. If they wanted to arrest people, they wouldve

    Asbestos [2605613]

    Bro, no you didn’t. Ok. Let’s unpack this, because you are so barking up the wrong tree on this one.


    1. Yes. If you want, I can get you a tour. Virtually every city has an annual open house of some kind and brings out all the gear for you to look at.
    2. Anyone who has been in or around the military knows that “military grade” means the cheapest, heaviest, mass produced piece of shit that minimally meets the bid requirements. You’re just saying buzzwords because you think it makes you look cool. It doesn’t.
    3. To arrest someone you need to know who to arrest from the crowd. That often happens via investigation after the fact (see #5 below).
    4. Arresting someone means that officers are off the street and dealing with booking etc, which can be an 8 hour process, particularly if they have to swing by the local county hospital for a medical check (common) on the way. That’s less people to deal with a crowd which severely outnumber them, creating an even more dangerous situation where a higher level use of force potentially becomes more likely.
    5. You’re just wrong anyway. 250 people were arrested at the time, and another 55 were charged later as things were investigated.

    A707 [2600371]

    55 people out of how many? Exactly. It was a miniscule amount of people who didn't go there to protest
    Bingo they were paid to act a fool by certain entities.
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    Posted on 03:16:47 - 21/11/23 (4 months ago)
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    A707 [2600371]

    And I still haven't said anything false

    Asbestos [2605613]

    That statement itself is false.
    Prove that it was false. You have the burden of proof
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    Posted on 03:18:23 - 21/11/23 (4 months ago)
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    Odin-All-Father [2010524]

    Lmao, faether was happy to try justify the school shooter who killed a bunch of kids, but opposes Rittenhouse killing a convicted ***** in self defence.

    legit couldn’t write it, absolutely comical.
    Between the two of us, only you support, and then celebrate, murder.
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    Posted on 03:35:58 - 21/11/23 (4 months ago)
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    A707 [2600371]

    And I still haven't said anything false

    Asbestos [2605613]

    That statement itself is false.

    A707 [2600371]

    Prove that it was false. You have the burden of proof
    I’m happy to. Some examples:

    ”Whatever you want to call it, it was people exercising their free speech”

    — Free speech doesn’t burn down 50 buildings, damage 100 more, and cost $50m in damages. I believe that you are smart enough to know that, and are thus being disingenuous and dishonest.


    “If they wanted to arrest people, they wouldve”

    — This implies that no one was arrested and therefore it must have been a lawful and peaceful protest. We know that this is false, because see above, and also 305 people were arrested.

    “55 people out of how many? Exactly. It was a miniscule amount of people who didn't go there to protest”

    — This is a lie of omission. You knew that it was 305, because it was in the post you replied to and which you got the 55 number from. But you chose to say 55 in order to do some damage control after implying that no arrests were made, and so it must be a peaceful protest. You then move the goalpost and start minimizing with “it was a minuscule blah blah”

    These are all falsehoods, and ones which you had the right information to be truthful, but chose not to.


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    Posted on 05:46:20 - 21/11/23 (4 months ago)
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    Trans-Creature disliked your thread.

    Kyle Rittenhouse is like Erin Jeager, his future self told him the stranger he shot had CP on his computer.

    Let's hope I'll be justified in hindsight the same way, when I finally lose my shit.
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    Trans-Creature disliked your thread.

    Kyle Rittenhouse is like Erin Jeager, his future self told him the stranger he shot had CP on his computer.

    Let's hope I'll be justified in hindsight the same way, when I finally lose my shit.
    It’s a little tongue in cheek but I agree. I don’t like the pedo thing. It may be true but it isn’t relevant.
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    Posted on 08:48:49 - 21/11/23 (4 months ago)
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    A707 [2600371]

    And I still haven't said anything false

    Asbestos [2605613]

    That statement itself is false.

    A707 [2600371]

    Prove that it was false. You have the burden of proof

    Asbestos [2605613]

    I’m happy to. Some examples:

    ”Whatever you want to call it, it was people exercising their free speech”

    — Free speech doesn’t burn down 50 buildings, damage 100 more, and cost $50m in damages. I believe that you are smart enough to know that, and are thus being disingenuous and dishonest.


    “If they wanted to arrest people, they wouldve”

    — This implies that no one was arrested and therefore it must have been a lawful and peaceful protest. We know that this is false, because see above, and also 305 people were arrested.

    “55 people out of how many? Exactly. It was a miniscule amount of people who didn't go there to protest”

    — This is a lie of omission. You knew that it was 305, because it was in the post you replied to and which you got the 55 number from. But you chose to say 55 in order to do some damage control after implying that no arrests were made, and so it must be a peaceful protest. You then move the goalpost and start minimizing with “it was a minuscule blah blah”

    These are all falsehoods, and ones which you had the right information to be truthful, but chose not to.


    You gave me the information about 55 people bring charged. That was your words
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    Posted on 12:45:36 - 21/11/23 (4 months ago)
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    A707 [2600371]

    And I still haven't said anything false

    Asbestos [2605613]

    That statement itself is false.

    A707 [2600371]

    Prove that it was false. You have the burden of proof

    Asbestos [2605613]

    I’m happy to. Some examples:

    ”Whatever you want to call it, it was people exercising their free speech”

    — Free speech doesn’t burn down 50 buildings, damage 100 more, and cost $50m in damages. I believe that you are smart enough to know that, and are thus being disingenuous and dishonest.


    “If they wanted to arrest people, they wouldve”

    — This implies that no one was arrested and therefore it must have been a lawful and peaceful protest. We know that this is false, because see above, and also 305 people were arrested.

    “55 people out of how many? Exactly. It was a miniscule amount of people who didn't go there to protest”

    — This is a lie of omission. You knew that it was 305, because it was in the post you replied to and which you got the 55 number from. But you chose to say 55 in order to do some damage control after implying that no arrests were made, and so it must be a peaceful protest. You then move the goalpost and start minimizing with “it was a minuscule blah blah”

    These are all falsehoods, and ones which you had the right information to be truthful, but chose not to.


    A707 [2600371]

    You gave me the information about 55 people bring charged. That was your words
    False. Here are my words: “5. You’re just wrong anyway. 250 people were arrested at the time, and another 55 were charged later as things were investigated.”

    it’s like a story problem in second grade. 250+55=305.

    If you were going to choose one or the other and not do the math, you should have chosen the 250, because those ones were immediately relevant at the time of the riot.

    Since you had my actual words so readily available and still chose to stick to “55”, omitting (remember that lie of omission thing?) the first half of the sentence, I think we will consider this another falsehood.
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    Bhappychap [2270497]

    Wow, aren't you black? and you support rittenhouse?

    lol. You know you can't be part of that group, right? Duke doesn't allow it.


    And if this kid is a "hero" in your eyes, please get a vasectomy. For the sake of everyone. But especially those closest to you.

    EddieLee706 [1591144]

    Who's supposed to be black?

    Please indulge me
    I thought Spork was, or claimed. But I don't know anymore, everyone changes their name or such.
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