SporkMonkey [2065017]

By your logic, if the pedos hadn't aggressively attacked Kyle, they'd be alive today.

f**k em. The world is a better place.

But good to know you wish more diddlers were walking this planet.

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A707 [2600371]

OK, fair enough.

But please tell me why your hero was attempting to intimidate people with weapons during a protest, which is their first amendment right.

SporkMonkey [2065017]

Why were the pedos trying to intimidate Kyle by attacking him with a skateboard, which is NOT protected by the 1A? They played FAFO and won with someone that was exercising their 2A Right.

A707 [2600371]

OK, I'll admit he was in the right when he shot them but that does not explain why he was there in the first place. Having a rifle on him was pretty much an intimidation tool to attempt to restrict the protest and therefore freedom of speech.

Asbestos [2605613]

I mean he didn’t point it at anyone talking. He only pointed it at the felons trying to kill him or inflict great bodily injury. So while I do think he was a total milhouse for having it there, I think it is a ridiculous assertion to say he was restricting anyone’s protest.

A707 [2600371]

When you have an object capable of killing a man with a single trigger press in your hands at a protest, that is intimidation and infringement on free speech

EddieLee706 [1591144]

Who's supposed to be black?

Please indulge me

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Bhappychap [2270497]

I thought Spork was, or claimed. But I don't know anymore, everyone changes their name or such.

SporkMonkey [2065017]

What does skin color have to do with anything?

Rittenhouse, a white guy, dealt with two other white guys.

You don't still believe the 100% proven false info that he shot a black dude, do you?

You do, don't you?! How embarrassing for you.

Bhappychap [2270497]

Rittenhouse has been photographed on several occasions giving the WS symbol.

Who he shot makes no difference to me. Glorifying someone who slipped through the cracks of the law, for slipping through the cracks is idiotic, at best.

A707 [2600371]

I just looked into it and it seems rittenhouse was also seen with the proud boys, a bunch of domestic terrorists. That was even a shock for me

Steppenwulf [2960257]

1. Provide sources when you make unsubstantiated claims.

2. Read something about the context when you find some derogatory information about a person you want to denegrate.

3. Kyle Rittenhouse was a non-political person who supported the BLM movement at the time of this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do7sbWaZstQ -- you can skip to 14:30 if you are only interested in hearing his support for BLM.

Kyle Rittenhouse was and still is a very young man. At the time the Proud Boys photos were taken, Kyle did not know that the "OK" hand sign was also used by white supremacists to symbolize White Power. Furthermore, he's using the wrong hand for the White Power sign as it requires the right hand to form the W and P in the correct order. And finally, the proud boys he was with, who he did not know were Proud Boys at the time, were his "security detail" assigned by his subsequently fired lawyer who was using Kyle's case to further his extreme right wing agenda. Kyle Rittenhouse was not interested in becoming the poster child for the alt-right, and he fired his attorney to stop them trying to craft his public image into a "hero" of the right. Source: https://www.newsnationnow.com/banfield/kyle-rittenhouse-blames-former-lawyers-for-proud-boys-photo/.

Kyle Rittenhouse should not be considered a hero for his actions on that fateful night in Kenosha; neither does he wish to be seen as such. There have been a lot of talking heads and politicians clamoring to promote both their own careers and their agenda from this tragic night from both sides of the aisle. But Kyle Rittenhouse was just a naive young man with a rifle who was exceedingly lucky not only to be acquitted, but also to have survived that night.

Fermion [2691036]

No one's lamenting a pedo. That that's what you have to reach for to make Kyle a hero is hilarious and damning. Did Rittenhouse know this about the guy when shooting him? Does it change the matters any? Not really. He was still a kid overeager to kill people and got his wish. His life will never be the same because of it. Rosenbaum's fiancee mentioned he wasn't really there for the protest or counter protest. Rosenbaum's death being justified in your eyes has nothing to do with whether what Rittenhouse did was right or not.

I saw the video when it came out. He seemed totally justified in his self defense once people were running after him. The question is why was he in that situation in the first place? He wasn't the only counter protestor, or even a counter protestor with guns that day. Simple fact is: if Kyle had't come out there with a gun, no one would have died. If that dude with a handgun didn't fire in the air, Kyle wouldn't have been spooked and killed Rosenbaum, who had cornered him.

Property damage isn't worth people's lives. It's a sad situation all around that people try to use for their political talking points.

Fermion [2691036]

No one's lamenting a pedo. That that's what you have to reach for to make Kyle a hero is hilarious and damning. Did Rittenhouse know this about the guy when shooting him? Does it change the matters any? Not really. He was still a kid overeager to kill people and got his wish. His life will never be the same because of it. Rosenbaum's fiancee mentioned he wasn't really there for the protest or counter protest. Rosenbaum's death being justified in your eyes has nothing to do with whether what Rittenhouse did was right or not.

I saw the video when it came out. He seemed totally justified in his self defense once people were running after him. The question is why was he in that situation in the first place? He wasn't the only counter protestor, or even a counter protestor with guns that day. Simple fact is: if Kyle had't come out there with a gun, no one would have died. If that dude with a handgun didn't fire in the air, Kyle wouldn't have been spooked and killed Rosenbaum, who had cornered him.

Property damage isn't worth people's lives. It's a sad situation all around that people try to use for their political talking points.

Odin-All-Father [2010524]

That's a hilarious viewpoint.

No one is saying rittenhouse knew the guy was a paedo before he shot him, people are saying he was entirely justified in defending himself and killing that dude, but also as a f**king huge bonus, the guy he killed was a ***** and the world is most definitely better off.

He wasn't an kid eager to kill people, he was a teenager taking action to do the right thing and help others in need.

Stop calling it a protest, it wasn't a protest, it was a f**kin' riot.

There are many a questions, and "why was he in that situation in the first place" is not even close to the top in priority. More relevant and suited questions: Why were they rioting? Who or what were they targeting, and why? Why would you run after a kid who is armed with a rifle, that is running away? When that kid falls over and is on the floor, why would you attack him? Why would you aim a gun at him? Why would you attempt to hit him with a skateboard?

Simple fact is; if the rioters weren't there, kyle wouldn't have shot any of them. If the rioters didn't attack him, he wouldn't have shot any of them.

I entirely beg to differ, I'm a full supporter of protecting innocent* lives. Though there are many people whose lives I value less than property. Example; Someone accidentally crashes into my house. - no biggie, shit happens.
Someone targets my house and drives into it or sets fire to it. - I will f**k em up.

But finally and most importantly; paedos lives don't matter.

Bhappychap [2270497]

Wow, aren't you black? and you support rittenhouse?

lol. You know you can't be part of that group, right? Duke doesn't allow it.


And if this kid is a "hero" in your eyes, please get a vasectomy. For the sake of everyone. But especially those closest to you.

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EddieLee706 [1591144]

Who's supposed to be black?

Please indulge me

Bhappychap [2270497]

I thought Spork was, or claimed. But I don't know anymore, everyone changes their name or such.

SporkMonkey [2065017]

What does skin color have to do with anything?

Rittenhouse, a white guy, dealt with two other white guys.

You don't still believe the 100% proven false info that he shot a black dude, do you?

You do, don't you?! How embarrassing for you.

broleaf [3140943]

Kyle, a white Hispanic, is specifically considered a based POC.

js. kek

I think that highlights the stupidity of trans-creatures contrast argument quite nicely.

A707 [2600371]

Evidence?

broleaf [3140943]

Kyle is a White Hispanic

broleaf [3140943]

Kyle is a White Hispanic

Unlucky [2472585]

No evidence other than the above-displayed record pertaining to the Aug. 19 traffic stop — which, as we noted, carried a disclaimer that law enforcement noted "Hispanic" based on a subjective look at Rittenhouse and was not a self assessment — indicated that the 18-year-old was possibly any race other than Caucasian. For those reasons, we also rated previous claims calling him white "True."

Snopes

broleaf [3140943]

Hence White-Hispanic both = true

White Hispanic and Latino Americans

broleaf [3140943]

Hence White-Hispanic both = true

White Hispanic and Latino Americans

Unlucky [2472585]

Uhhh nope. That’s not how it works.


If I subjectively identify you as trans can I now refer to you as Trans-CIS?

broleaf [3140943]

no due to that being incorrect English

conclusion re write Trans-CIS
explanation the definition of Trans
A transgender person (often shortened to trans) is someone whose gender identity differs from that typically associated with the sex they were assigned at birth. Some transgender people who desire medical assistance to transition from one sex to another identify as transsexual.

CIS is the antonym to trans hence incompatible.


White Hispanic = interracial racial

Hopefully, this English lesson provided by me helps illuminate your understanding of English and provides a foundation towards ending your illiteracy. Regards, bro. - Leaf

SporkMonkey [2065017]

Why were the pedos trying to intimidate Kyle by attacking him with a skateboard, which is NOT protected by the 1A? They played FAFO and won with someone that was exercising their 2A Right.

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A707 [2600371]

OK, I'll admit he was in the right when he shot them but that does not explain why he was there in the first place. Having a rifle on him was pretty much an intimidation tool to attempt to restrict the protest and therefore freedom of speech.

Madgod [1733719]

It was a protest, and one of the aspects of the protest was a show of support for the second amendment. The intention was not to intimidate. If people felt intimidate, then they didn't understand. However, the person who tried to shoot Rittenhouse, and the person attacking him with a skateboard, both were.

I wouldn't call him a hero necessarily. But to your statement in a previous comment "your hero killed people", the unfortunate reality is that sometimes people who are considered heroes are considered such exactly because they did kill someone.

A707 [2600371]

Since when is carrying a loaded rifle out in public not for intimidation?

Madgod [1733719]

I mean it probably wouldn't have needed to be loaded if the other sided wasn't so radical

A707 [2600371]

Calling people who oppose racial profiling and the murder of black men at the hands of police officers "radical" is radical in of itself

broleaf [3140943]

no due to that being incorrect English

conclusion re write Trans-CIS
explanation the definition of Trans
A transgender person (often shortened to trans) is someone whose gender identity differs from that typically associated with the sex they were assigned at birth. Some transgender people who desire medical assistance to transition from one sex to another identify as transsexual.

CIS is the antonym to trans hence incompatible.


White Hispanic = interracial racial

Hopefully, this English lesson provided by me helps illuminate your understanding of English and provides a foundation towards ending your illiteracy. Regards, bro. - Leaf

Unlucky [2472585]

Fair enough.


If a police officer pulls me over and and records me as black (actually white) am I now mixed race?

broleaf [3140943]

Kyle is a White Hispanic

Unlucky [2472585]

No evidence other than the above-displayed record pertaining to the Aug. 19 traffic stop — which, as we noted, carried a disclaimer that law enforcement noted "Hispanic" based on a subjective look at Rittenhouse and was not a self assessment — indicated that the 18-year-old was possibly any race other than Caucasian. For those reasons, we also rated previous claims calling him white "True."

Snopes

broleaf [3140943]

As far as the state is concerned, perhaps, but given the fact that Kyle has not explicitly stated his racial identity as either white or Hispanic, we will rely on the limited evidence available. Unless you can provide additional evidence confirming that he is solely white, we should also consider the previous empirical evidence.

broleaf [3140943]

As far as the state is concerned, perhaps, but given the fact that Kyle has not explicitly stated his racial identity as either white or Hispanic, we will rely on the limited evidence available. Unless you can provide additional evidence confirming that he is solely white, we should also consider the previous empirical evidence.

Unlucky [2472585]

But you are using the same evidence set to say is is white hispanic right Here.


Unless you can prove additional evidence confirming he is white hispanic we should reconsider the previous empirical evidence.

Asbestos [2605613]

See above. If he told an an official at the DMV that he is Hispanic and it was then on his drivers license, which is what they would have written on his speeding ticket, he’s Hispanic. That’s it. Racial identity in the US is *not* evidence based.

broleaf [3140943]

As far as the state is concerned, perhaps, but given the fact that Kyle has not explicitly stated his racial identity as either white or Hispanic, we will rely on the limited evidence available. Unless you can provide additional evidence confirming that he is solely white, we should also consider the previous empirical evidence.

Unlucky [2472585]

But you are using the same evidence set to say is is white hispanic right Here.


Unless you can prove additional evidence confirming he is white hispanic we should reconsider the previous empirical evidence.

broleaf [3140943]

Can you provide evidence confirming that he is solely white to refute my claim? I positioned my argument between the two possibilities, using both examples of evidence. By attempting to cherry-pick, you automatically lose this argument on an academic basis.


Not only do I assist in teaching you English, but I also aim to enhance your skills in academic-level debating.