Jabajaba [2499335]

https://youtu.be/wiGp2mvFLY0?si=8Zpff8zSJ2Ch5eTy

Have a listen to this chap - International law should be followed at all times, no excuses. Genocide is genocide, simple as that.

Hamas should be able to be removed without bombing innocent people or telling 2m civilians to "move" in 24 hours...

I am personally appalled by the UK and US stance on all of this - the nations that troll around the world claiming to be morally superior to everyone else, only until they decide that it is in their interest to back an ally that is commiting horrendous war crimes.

This is not anything to do with religion. You just need to be a human being to see that the innocent people killed in Israel by hamas is wrong and the backlash on innocent civilians in Palestine is wrong.

deadalus29 [2536273]

What genocide are you refereeing to? to the negative "genocide" (AKA - positive growth rate) the Palestinians are currently experiencing?
The international laws clearly states that killing civilians is OK, in certain cases (which, needless to say, happens at the Gaza strip)

How Hamas can be removed without bombing (also) innocent people? Please answer with practical tactical solution which will not result in more innocents death and allow Israel to win the war which was forced upon it.

Smilin-Assassin [965750]

How about the root cause of Hamas? How they came into being and why? Because last I checked, you remove cancer not by shooting and bombing nearby patients, doctors, hospitals, mosques, bakeries, homes, refugee camps and churches. If that's how you would treat cancer, you'd run out of business soon enough unless you have Biden on your side, falling with every step he takes.

There is only one genocide currently being discussed. And no one will say that it's the Zionists because they are apparently defending themselves from children and women based on their murder rate. Wrong way to remove Hamas if you ask me. That's like removing every other cell but the cancer cell.

But then again, I wouldn't know. I haven't read the Hamas charter or the Zionist charter.

deadalus29 [2536273]

I have no idea what you are talking about, but your cancer example is great - when you treat cancer you have to damage healthy cells as well.

You dont call a doctor who cut out healthy cells along with the cancerous cell a mutilator, so you shouldnt call Israel, who kills innocents along with cancerous Hamas terrorists murderers

Smilin-Assassin [965750]

No, you don't "have" to. That's why oncologists don't operate on certain brain tumors. Like the ones on the brain stem because it's typically inoperable. Get what I am saying? You don't bomb a whole open-air prison of 2.2m civilians to kill a measly 40k people. Because chances are, you will be killing everything and everyone else like it is happening as we see right now. They have been bombing for a month and Hamas is still alive and well as far as we can see on X, formerly Twitter. And that to me is enough to make me believe that the zionists are doing something else.

Also, why cut off and block electricity, and water for the 2.2 million Gazans? Not to mention the bombing of hospitals, bakeries, churches, mosques, and refugee camps and the fishermen's boats on Gaza's shore. Because Hamas drinks water, uses electricity to charge their GoPros, and lives under those buildings eating bread, pastries, and fish?

One month of bombing has proven that Hamas isn't their target because Hamas isn't weakening and the Gazans aren't leaving Gaza. So why not stop the bombing because they (the army of the occupiers) aren't achieving what they want (unless this is exactly what they want)? You say that Hamas uses human shields. Human shields to defend themselves from what? White phosphorus and 30k tons of bombs? From the buildings that collapse on top of themselves?

Collete [1389080]

The Hamas terrorist billionaires who live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels as they decry Gaza poverty after profiting from misery and terror

• Estimates suggest some of Hamas's leaders have a net worth in the billions
• Israel and other critics accuse the group of spending money on luxuries instead of helping the people of Gaza

And while the majority of citizens in the densely populated territory - which is a quarter of the size of Greater London - languish in poverty, a select few live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels.
According to the Embassy of Israel in the US, three of Hamas's most senior leaders - Mousa Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - have net worths of more than $3billion each. The embassy also claims that Hamas's annual turnover is $1billion and suggests the group is second only to ISIS as the world's richest terror group.






Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (far right) is seen on a private plane with other senior Hamas officials









Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (centre) pictured in a luxury hotel with two of his sons


In a video, the Embassy of Israel in the US accused the group of using its funds for building tunnels and arming its fighters rather than building vital infrastructure such as wells and water treatment.
A study from 2021 suggested that about one-quarter of disease spread in the territory is caused by water pollution, and 12 per cent of deaths of young children are due to infections related to contaminated water.
'While Gazans are deprived of basic needs, Hamas uses aid and funds to line their own pockets,' the embassy said in a post on X (formerly Twitter).
Israel has also said Hamas continues to attack across the border without building civilian bomb shelters, knowing the Israeli military will retaliate.
Instead, Israel says Hamas's leadership hoards its wealth, uses Palestinians as human shields and allows the population it claims to govern go hungry.
According to German news outlet Bild, there are four Hamas officials who have grown particularly wealthy over the years - the trio of Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - as well as a fourth named Younis Qafisheh.



Haniyeh is believed to be the richest of the three - despite once vowing to live only on olive oil and za'atar spice.
A 61-year-old father of 13 children, Haniyeh has been in hiding since 2019, living the high-life in luxury hotels in Qatar and Turkey.
German tabloid Bild reports that he often jets between Tehran, Istanbul, Moscow and Cairo in his private jet to meet leaders in friendly nations, and two of his sons Maaz and Abdel Salam are often seen in Instagram posts lounging on hotel beds in Istanbul or Doha.
Maaz, who is a very wealthy real estate mogul in his own right, is known on the Gaza Strip as the 'father of houses'. When he's in Turkey, he is often seen in the company of attractive women and alcohol, despite his Islamic faith.
His brother Abdel Salam, meanwhile, was disgraced after being found to be siphoning off money in his role as sports ambassador for Hamas's 'Shura Council' (Politburo), Bild says.
The publication estimates his net worth to be $2.5million, while the Israeli embassy to the US suggested it was as much as $3.2billion. Another publication, i24News, wrote last month that his wealth could be as high as $5billion.
Khaled Mashal, 67, is the former head of Hamas's political bureau.
He fled Damascus to escape the Arab Spring in Syria and, like Haniyeh, is now living in Qatar. From there, he handles real estate and financial transactions for Hamas.
When he fled Syria, Bild reports, he is said to have taken $1.5billion from Hamas's headquarters in Damascus. Israel's US embassy puts his net worth at $4billion.
Mousa Abu Marzouk, 72, is another Hamas high-flyer. He is considered the second in command within the group, and is a foreign minister of sorts.
After spending 14 years in the US - where he was in 1995 arrested for activities supporting terrorism and deported after two years - he moved to Jordan, then to Syria and then to Cairo in 2012.
Despite his arrest, he kept hold of his money, and today Bild reported his fortune is estimated at $2billion, while the Israeli embassy to the US puts it higher, at $3billion.
Younis Qafisheh, 67, is a fourth Hamas official highlighted by Bild for his immense wealth.








One of Haniyeh's sons is seen posing for an Instagram photo in a luxury hotel







Haniyeh's sons and other Hamas officials enjoy themselves in a luxury hotel

Despite its accumulation of wealth, however, Hamas has avoided responsibility for building infrastructure and protecting the citizens of Gaza.
In fact, just last week, Abu Marzouk declared that the political bureau of the terror group is not responsible for protecting the coastal strip's civilians amid the ongoing Israeli bombardment of the territory.
'We built the tunnels because we have no other way of protecting ourselves from being killed in airstrikes. We are fighting from inside the tunnels,' he said.
Passing the buck further, he added: 'Seventy-five per cent of the population of Gaza are refugees, and it is the UN's responsibility to protect them.'
According to the Times of Israel, he then went on to claim that it was Israel's obligation to provide for the needs of Gazans under the Geneva Convention.
While all the sources of Hamas's income may remain unknown, one thing is certain: the group will not be diverting its funds to help the civilians of Gaza, who with each passing day are slipping deeper and deeper into a humanitarian crisis.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12706715/Hamas-terrorist-billionaires-live-marble-floored-mansions.html

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Seba_Nile [1782274]

Are you being f king serious right now, I knew you copied and pasted web pages without verifying before but these images have been exposed as AI generated you knob.

https://twitter.com/SaketGokhale/status/1715622040005165081?lang=en-GB

zoom in for yourself, how does one guys hand go through a chair whilst the other has 6 fingers?
israel has been exposed of using AI generated images to pass their lies

Asbestos [2605613]

You copy/paste web pages without reading too. I’ve found some of the source pages that you’ve taken out or context (like the Wikipedia timeline of Jerusalem page).


Pot, meet kettle.


Again, you are ridiculous.

Seba_Nile [1782274]

I’ve never used a timeline from Wikipedia. Why do you have to lie?
By the looks of your profile, it seems you have gone crazy. We are obviously getting to you.

Asbestos [2605613]

Of course you did. It was this one. You are fooling no one with your weird post edits and gaslighting.

Seba_Nile [1782274]

You stupid idiot, I didn’t post that, another torn player did, this is the timeline I posted.

For 3500 years - in what is called the Proto-Canaaite period, Jerusalem belonged to the Canaanites who worshipped many gods and goddesses. It wasn't until 2000 BC do scholars find a reference that debatably refers to Jerusalem. The word is 'Rusalimum' in texts of Egypts middle kingdom. Scholars believe that the name is consecration to 'shalim' a Canaanite deity of the netherworld from Ugaritic scriptures.

The territory passed from the Canaanites to the Egyptians, ultimately. So here we have the Egyptians and Canaanites being the original inhabitants of Jerusalem for 3500 years before the Jews ever conquered it.

Jerusalem was taken by King David in 1010BC and lost to the Egyptians in 925BC. Jehoash of Israel briefly recaptured it in 786 BC but then lost it to the Assyrians in 740BC. That's just 131 years, just about as long as the Crusaders' rule of Jerusalem in the Middle Ages.

The Jewish Hasmoneans re-took it in 140BC under Simon Thassi but then lost it to the Persian Seleucides in 134. Thats 6 more years of Jewish rule. Due to a Selucid civil war, Judeah incidentally became independent in the chaos in 116BC. In 87BC the Jewish Hasmonean king executed 800 Jews for sedition. In 47BC they lost Jerusalem again, this time to the Romans. Thats 69 years of rule. In total, off and on the Jews rules Jerusalem for MAYBE 206 years.

• The pre-constantine romans rules it for 250 years.
• The christian Byzantines rules it for 304 years.
• The Muslims rules it under the Rashidun, Umayyid and Abbasid empires for 332 years.
• The Fatimids rules it for 129 years.
• The crusaders took it from the Muslims and held it for 88 years.
• The Muslim ruler Saladin conquered it in 1187 and his descendants held it for 63 years.
• The Muslim Mamluk Empire ruled it for 236 years.
• The Ottomans rules it for 401 years.
• Thats 206 years of Jewish rule
• 392 years of Christian rule (where jews were expelled)
• 800+ years of Muslim rule (where all 3 religions lived peacefully)

SO NO, Jews are not the original inhabitants of the land.

Canaanites? Oops. The bible says god oredered them exterminated to extinction in a genocide that included many other unfortunate nations.
"Completely destroy them -- the hittiess, amorites, canaanites, perizzites, hivites and jebusites -- as the LORD your God has commanded you". [Deuteronomy 20:17]

Some Canaanites survived the Israelite genocide, who are they? Present day Lebanese derive their ancestry from Canaanite related populations. So Lebanese people are scientifically and genetically proven to be the original dwellers of not only Jerusalem but all of Palestine so the argument should pretty much end there.

And as Palestinian people are a religous confederation of Christians and Muslims, both consistently at peace with each other, that puts their birthright to it at 1200 combines years nearly a thousand years longer than jews ever reigned Jerusalem.

And like it always has been throughout Islamic history, the Jews are welcomed to stay there, but as co-inhabitants with their Christian and Muslim neighbours. No barbedwired walls, no soldiers shooting kids, no apartheid separating Palestinians from Jews, no stealing peoples homes like bandits.

Seba_Nile [1782274]

Are you being f king serious right now, I knew you copied and pasted web pages without verifying before but these images have been exposed as AI generated you knob.

https://twitter.com/SaketGokhale/status/1715622040005165081?lang=en-GB

zoom in for yourself, how does one guys hand go through a chair whilst the other has 6 fingers?
israel has been exposed of using AI generated images to pass their lies

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Asbestos [2605613]

You copy/paste web pages without reading too. I’ve found some of the source pages that you’ve taken out or context (like the Wikipedia timeline of Jerusalem page).


Pot, meet kettle.


Again, you are ridiculous.

Seba_Nile [1782274]

I’ve never used a timeline from Wikipedia. Why do you have to lie?
By the looks of your profile, it seems you have gone crazy. We are obviously getting to you.

Asbestos [2605613]

Of course you did. It was this one. You are fooling no one with your weird post edits and gaslighting.

Seba_Nile [1782274]

You stupid idiot, I didn’t post that, another torn player did, this is the timeline I posted.

For 3500 years - in what is called the Proto-Canaaite period, Jerusalem belonged to the Canaanites who worshipped many gods and goddesses. It wasn't until 2000 BC do scholars find a reference that debatably refers to Jerusalem. The word is 'Rusalimum' in texts of Egypts middle kingdom. Scholars believe that the name is consecration to 'shalim' a Canaanite deity of the netherworld from Ugaritic scriptures.

The territory passed from the Canaanites to the Egyptians, ultimately. So here we have the Egyptians and Canaanites being the original inhabitants of Jerusalem for 3500 years before the Jews ever conquered it.

Jerusalem was taken by King David in 1010BC and lost to the Egyptians in 925BC. Jehoash of Israel briefly recaptured it in 786 BC but then lost it to the Assyrians in 740BC. That's just 131 years, just about as long as the Crusaders' rule of Jerusalem in the Middle Ages.

The Jewish Hasmoneans re-took it in 140BC under Simon Thassi but then lost it to the Persian Seleucides in 134. Thats 6 more years of Jewish rule. Due to a Selucid civil war, Judeah incidentally became independent in the chaos in 116BC. In 87BC the Jewish Hasmonean king executed 800 Jews for sedition. In 47BC they lost Jerusalem again, this time to the Romans. Thats 69 years of rule. In total, off and on the Jews rules Jerusalem for MAYBE 206 years.

• The pre-constantine romans rules it for 250 years.
• The christian Byzantines rules it for 304 years.
• The Muslims rules it under the Rashidun, Umayyid and Abbasid empires for 332 years.
• The Fatimids rules it for 129 years.
• The crusaders took it from the Muslims and held it for 88 years.
• The Muslim ruler Saladin conquered it in 1187 and his descendants held it for 63 years.
• The Muslim Mamluk Empire ruled it for 236 years.
• The Ottomans rules it for 401 years.
• Thats 206 years of Jewish rule
• 392 years of Christian rule (where jews were expelled)
• 800+ years of Muslim rule (where all 3 religions lived peacefully)

SO NO, Jews are not the original inhabitants of the land.

Canaanites? Oops. The bible says god oredered them exterminated to extinction in a genocide that included many other unfortunate nations.
"Completely destroy them -- the hittiess, amorites, canaanites, perizzites, hivites and jebusites -- as the LORD your God has commanded you". [Deuteronomy 20:17]

Some Canaanites survived the Israelite genocide, who are they? Present day Lebanese derive their ancestry from Canaanite related populations. So Lebanese people are scientifically and genetically proven to be the original dwellers of not only Jerusalem but all of Palestine so the argument should pretty much end there.

And as Palestinian people are a religous confederation of Christians and Muslims, both consistently at peace with each other, that puts their birthright to it at 1200 combines years nearly a thousand years longer than jews ever reigned Jerusalem.

And like it always has been throughout Islamic history, the Jews are welcomed to stay there, but as co-inhabitants with their Christian and Muslim neighbours. No barbedwired walls, no soldiers shooting kids, no apartheid separating Palestinians from Jews, no stealing peoples homes like bandits.

deadalus29 [2536273]

Nope, those are lies.

It is well documented that the Israelite ruled the area for ~400 years strait (1000-578 BCE), and then more ~100 in the first century BC

Asbestos [2605613]

You copy/paste web pages without reading too. I’ve found some of the source pages that you’ve taken out or context (like the Wikipedia timeline of Jerusalem page).


Pot, meet kettle.


Again, you are ridiculous.

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Seba_Nile [1782274]

I’ve never used a timeline from Wikipedia. Why do you have to lie?
By the looks of your profile, it seems you have gone crazy. We are obviously getting to you.

Asbestos [2605613]

Of course you did. It was this one. You are fooling no one with your weird post edits and gaslighting.

Seba_Nile [1782274]

You stupid idiot, I didn’t post that, another torn player did, this is the timeline I posted.

For 3500 years - in what is called the Proto-Canaaite period, Jerusalem belonged to the Canaanites who worshipped many gods and goddesses. It wasn't until 2000 BC do scholars find a reference that debatably refers to Jerusalem. The word is 'Rusalimum' in texts of Egypts middle kingdom. Scholars believe that the name is consecration to 'shalim' a Canaanite deity of the netherworld from Ugaritic scriptures.

The territory passed from the Canaanites to the Egyptians, ultimately. So here we have the Egyptians and Canaanites being the original inhabitants of Jerusalem for 3500 years before the Jews ever conquered it.

Jerusalem was taken by King David in 1010BC and lost to the Egyptians in 925BC. Jehoash of Israel briefly recaptured it in 786 BC but then lost it to the Assyrians in 740BC. That's just 131 years, just about as long as the Crusaders' rule of Jerusalem in the Middle Ages.

The Jewish Hasmoneans re-took it in 140BC under Simon Thassi but then lost it to the Persian Seleucides in 134. Thats 6 more years of Jewish rule. Due to a Selucid civil war, Judeah incidentally became independent in the chaos in 116BC. In 87BC the Jewish Hasmonean king executed 800 Jews for sedition. In 47BC they lost Jerusalem again, this time to the Romans. Thats 69 years of rule. In total, off and on the Jews rules Jerusalem for MAYBE 206 years.

• The pre-constantine romans rules it for 250 years.
• The christian Byzantines rules it for 304 years.
• The Muslims rules it under the Rashidun, Umayyid and Abbasid empires for 332 years.
• The Fatimids rules it for 129 years.
• The crusaders took it from the Muslims and held it for 88 years.
• The Muslim ruler Saladin conquered it in 1187 and his descendants held it for 63 years.
• The Muslim Mamluk Empire ruled it for 236 years.
• The Ottomans rules it for 401 years.
• Thats 206 years of Jewish rule
• 392 years of Christian rule (where jews were expelled)
• 800+ years of Muslim rule (where all 3 religions lived peacefully)

SO NO, Jews are not the original inhabitants of the land.

Canaanites? Oops. The bible says god oredered them exterminated to extinction in a genocide that included many other unfortunate nations.
"Completely destroy them -- the hittiess, amorites, canaanites, perizzites, hivites and jebusites -- as the LORD your God has commanded you". [Deuteronomy 20:17]

Some Canaanites survived the Israelite genocide, who are they? Present day Lebanese derive their ancestry from Canaanite related populations. So Lebanese people are scientifically and genetically proven to be the original dwellers of not only Jerusalem but all of Palestine so the argument should pretty much end there.

And as Palestinian people are a religous confederation of Christians and Muslims, both consistently at peace with each other, that puts their birthright to it at 1200 combines years nearly a thousand years longer than jews ever reigned Jerusalem.

And like it always has been throughout Islamic history, the Jews are welcomed to stay there, but as co-inhabitants with their Christian and Muslim neighbours. No barbedwired walls, no soldiers shooting kids, no apartheid separating Palestinians from Jews, no stealing peoples homes like bandits.

deadalus29 [2536273]

Nope, those are lies.

It is well documented that the Israelite ruled the area for ~400 years strait (1000-578 BCE), and then more ~100 in the first century BC

Seba_Nile [1782274]

No Jewish state in Palestine lasted more than 80 years, try again. However under Muslim rule they lived peacefully along side their neighbours for many years.

Asbestos [2605613]

You copy/paste web pages without reading too. I’ve found some of the source pages that you’ve taken out or context (like the Wikipedia timeline of Jerusalem page).


Pot, meet kettle.


Again, you are ridiculous.

Show post

Seba_Nile [1782274]

I’ve never used a timeline from Wikipedia. Why do you have to lie?
By the looks of your profile, it seems you have gone crazy. We are obviously getting to you.

Asbestos [2605613]

Of course you did. It was this one. You are fooling no one with your weird post edits and gaslighting.

Seba_Nile [1782274]

You stupid idiot, I didn’t post that, another torn player did, this is the timeline I posted.

For 3500 years - in what is called the Proto-Canaaite period, Jerusalem belonged to the Canaanites who worshipped many gods and goddesses. It wasn't until 2000 BC do scholars find a reference that debatably refers to Jerusalem. The word is 'Rusalimum' in texts of Egypts middle kingdom. Scholars believe that the name is consecration to 'shalim' a Canaanite deity of the netherworld from Ugaritic scriptures.

The territory passed from the Canaanites to the Egyptians, ultimately. So here we have the Egyptians and Canaanites being the original inhabitants of Jerusalem for 3500 years before the Jews ever conquered it.

Jerusalem was taken by King David in 1010BC and lost to the Egyptians in 925BC. Jehoash of Israel briefly recaptured it in 786 BC but then lost it to the Assyrians in 740BC. That's just 131 years, just about as long as the Crusaders' rule of Jerusalem in the Middle Ages.

The Jewish Hasmoneans re-took it in 140BC under Simon Thassi but then lost it to the Persian Seleucides in 134. Thats 6 more years of Jewish rule. Due to a Selucid civil war, Judeah incidentally became independent in the chaos in 116BC. In 87BC the Jewish Hasmonean king executed 800 Jews for sedition. In 47BC they lost Jerusalem again, this time to the Romans. Thats 69 years of rule. In total, off and on the Jews rules Jerusalem for MAYBE 206 years.

• The pre-constantine romans rules it for 250 years.
• The christian Byzantines rules it for 304 years.
• The Muslims rules it under the Rashidun, Umayyid and Abbasid empires for 332 years.
• The Fatimids rules it for 129 years.
• The crusaders took it from the Muslims and held it for 88 years.
• The Muslim ruler Saladin conquered it in 1187 and his descendants held it for 63 years.
• The Muslim Mamluk Empire ruled it for 236 years.
• The Ottomans rules it for 401 years.
• Thats 206 years of Jewish rule
• 392 years of Christian rule (where jews were expelled)
• 800+ years of Muslim rule (where all 3 religions lived peacefully)

SO NO, Jews are not the original inhabitants of the land.

Canaanites? Oops. The bible says god oredered them exterminated to extinction in a genocide that included many other unfortunate nations.
"Completely destroy them -- the hittiess, amorites, canaanites, perizzites, hivites and jebusites -- as the LORD your God has commanded you". [Deuteronomy 20:17]

Some Canaanites survived the Israelite genocide, who are they? Present day Lebanese derive their ancestry from Canaanite related populations. So Lebanese people are scientifically and genetically proven to be the original dwellers of not only Jerusalem but all of Palestine so the argument should pretty much end there.

And as Palestinian people are a religous confederation of Christians and Muslims, both consistently at peace with each other, that puts their birthright to it at 1200 combines years nearly a thousand years longer than jews ever reigned Jerusalem.

And like it always has been throughout Islamic history, the Jews are welcomed to stay there, but as co-inhabitants with their Christian and Muslim neighbours. No barbedwired walls, no soldiers shooting kids, no apartheid separating Palestinians from Jews, no stealing peoples homes like bandits.

deadalus29 [2536273]

Nope, those are lies.

It is well documented that the Israelite ruled the area for ~400 years strait (1000-578 BCE), and then more ~100 in the first century BC

Seba_Nile [1782274]

No Jewish state in Palestine lasted more than 80 years, try again. However under Muslim rule they lived peacefully along side their neighbours for many years.

Seba_Nile [1782274]

I’ve never used a timeline from Wikipedia. Why do you have to lie?
By the looks of your profile, it seems you have gone crazy. We are obviously getting to you.

Show post

Asbestos [2605613]

Of course you did. It was this one. You are fooling no one with your weird post edits and gaslighting.

Seba_Nile [1782274]

You stupid idiot, I didn’t post that, another torn player did, this is the timeline I posted.

For 3500 years - in what is called the Proto-Canaaite period, Jerusalem belonged to the Canaanites who worshipped many gods and goddesses. It wasn't until 2000 BC do scholars find a reference that debatably refers to Jerusalem. The word is 'Rusalimum' in texts of Egypts middle kingdom. Scholars believe that the name is consecration to 'shalim' a Canaanite deity of the netherworld from Ugaritic scriptures.

The territory passed from the Canaanites to the Egyptians, ultimately. So here we have the Egyptians and Canaanites being the original inhabitants of Jerusalem for 3500 years before the Jews ever conquered it.

Jerusalem was taken by King David in 1010BC and lost to the Egyptians in 925BC. Jehoash of Israel briefly recaptured it in 786 BC but then lost it to the Assyrians in 740BC. That's just 131 years, just about as long as the Crusaders' rule of Jerusalem in the Middle Ages.

The Jewish Hasmoneans re-took it in 140BC under Simon Thassi but then lost it to the Persian Seleucides in 134. Thats 6 more years of Jewish rule. Due to a Selucid civil war, Judeah incidentally became independent in the chaos in 116BC. In 87BC the Jewish Hasmonean king executed 800 Jews for sedition. In 47BC they lost Jerusalem again, this time to the Romans. Thats 69 years of rule. In total, off and on the Jews rules Jerusalem for MAYBE 206 years.

• The pre-constantine romans rules it for 250 years.
• The christian Byzantines rules it for 304 years.
• The Muslims rules it under the Rashidun, Umayyid and Abbasid empires for 332 years.
• The Fatimids rules it for 129 years.
• The crusaders took it from the Muslims and held it for 88 years.
• The Muslim ruler Saladin conquered it in 1187 and his descendants held it for 63 years.
• The Muslim Mamluk Empire ruled it for 236 years.
• The Ottomans rules it for 401 years.
• Thats 206 years of Jewish rule
• 392 years of Christian rule (where jews were expelled)
• 800+ years of Muslim rule (where all 3 religions lived peacefully)

SO NO, Jews are not the original inhabitants of the land.

Canaanites? Oops. The bible says god oredered them exterminated to extinction in a genocide that included many other unfortunate nations.
"Completely destroy them -- the hittiess, amorites, canaanites, perizzites, hivites and jebusites -- as the LORD your God has commanded you". [Deuteronomy 20:17]

Some Canaanites survived the Israelite genocide, who are they? Present day Lebanese derive their ancestry from Canaanite related populations. So Lebanese people are scientifically and genetically proven to be the original dwellers of not only Jerusalem but all of Palestine so the argument should pretty much end there.

And as Palestinian people are a religous confederation of Christians and Muslims, both consistently at peace with each other, that puts their birthright to it at 1200 combines years nearly a thousand years longer than jews ever reigned Jerusalem.

And like it always has been throughout Islamic history, the Jews are welcomed to stay there, but as co-inhabitants with their Christian and Muslim neighbours. No barbedwired walls, no soldiers shooting kids, no apartheid separating Palestinians from Jews, no stealing peoples homes like bandits.

deadalus29 [2536273]

Nope, those are lies.

It is well documented that the Israelite ruled the area for ~400 years strait (1000-578 BCE), and then more ~100 in the first century BC

Seba_Nile [1782274]

No Jewish state in Palestine lasted more than 80 years, try again. However under Muslim rule they lived peacefully along side their neighbours for many years.

Collete [1389080]

Asbestos [2605613]

You copy/paste web pages without reading too. I’ve found some of the source pages that you’ve taken out or context (like the Wikipedia timeline of Jerusalem page).


Pot, meet kettle.


Again, you are ridiculous.

Show post

Seba_Nile [1782274]

I’ve never used a timeline from Wikipedia. Why do you have to lie?
By the looks of your profile, it seems you have gone crazy. We are obviously getting to you.

Asbestos [2605613]

Of course you did. It was this one. You are fooling no one with your weird post edits and gaslighting.

Seba_Nile [1782274]

You stupid idiot, I didn’t post that, another torn player did, this is the timeline I posted.

For 3500 years - in what is called the Proto-Canaaite period, Jerusalem belonged to the Canaanites who worshipped many gods and goddesses. It wasn't until 2000 BC do scholars find a reference that debatably refers to Jerusalem. The word is 'Rusalimum' in texts of Egypts middle kingdom. Scholars believe that the name is consecration to 'shalim' a Canaanite deity of the netherworld from Ugaritic scriptures.

The territory passed from the Canaanites to the Egyptians, ultimately. So here we have the Egyptians and Canaanites being the original inhabitants of Jerusalem for 3500 years before the Jews ever conquered it.

Jerusalem was taken by King David in 1010BC and lost to the Egyptians in 925BC. Jehoash of Israel briefly recaptured it in 786 BC but then lost it to the Assyrians in 740BC. That's just 131 years, just about as long as the Crusaders' rule of Jerusalem in the Middle Ages.

The Jewish Hasmoneans re-took it in 140BC under Simon Thassi but then lost it to the Persian Seleucides in 134. Thats 6 more years of Jewish rule. Due to a Selucid civil war, Judeah incidentally became independent in the chaos in 116BC. In 87BC the Jewish Hasmonean king executed 800 Jews for sedition. In 47BC they lost Jerusalem again, this time to the Romans. Thats 69 years of rule. In total, off and on the Jews rules Jerusalem for MAYBE 206 years.

• The pre-constantine romans rules it for 250 years.
• The christian Byzantines rules it for 304 years.
• The Muslims rules it under the Rashidun, Umayyid and Abbasid empires for 332 years.
• The Fatimids rules it for 129 years.
• The crusaders took it from the Muslims and held it for 88 years.
• The Muslim ruler Saladin conquered it in 1187 and his descendants held it for 63 years.
• The Muslim Mamluk Empire ruled it for 236 years.
• The Ottomans rules it for 401 years.
• Thats 206 years of Jewish rule
• 392 years of Christian rule (where jews were expelled)
• 800+ years of Muslim rule (where all 3 religions lived peacefully)

SO NO, Jews are not the original inhabitants of the land.

Canaanites? Oops. The bible says god oredered them exterminated to extinction in a genocide that included many other unfortunate nations.
"Completely destroy them -- the hittiess, amorites, canaanites, perizzites, hivites and jebusites -- as the LORD your God has commanded you". [Deuteronomy 20:17]

Some Canaanites survived the Israelite genocide, who are they? Present day Lebanese derive their ancestry from Canaanite related populations. So Lebanese people are scientifically and genetically proven to be the original dwellers of not only Jerusalem but all of Palestine so the argument should pretty much end there.

And as Palestinian people are a religous confederation of Christians and Muslims, both consistently at peace with each other, that puts their birthright to it at 1200 combines years nearly a thousand years longer than jews ever reigned Jerusalem.

And like it always has been throughout Islamic history, the Jews are welcomed to stay there, but as co-inhabitants with their Christian and Muslim neighbours. No barbedwired walls, no soldiers shooting kids, no apartheid separating Palestinians from Jews, no stealing peoples homes like bandits.

Collete [1389080]

O god not more copy and paste from you mong

Asbestos [2605613]

It’s like the worst cut and paste too. It’s loaded full of weird propaganda that conflicts with itself. This hamster is no more a credentialed Muslim or Palestinian historical scholar than Britney Spears.


Repeating your lines from a Hamas Telegram and having a hand up Larten_Crepsley’s ass doesn’t make one an important puppet master. It just means a shitty hand and an anal prolapse.

Seba_Nile [1782274]

I’ve never used a timeline from Wikipedia. Why do you have to lie?
By the looks of your profile, it seems you have gone crazy. We are obviously getting to you.

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Asbestos [2605613]

Of course you did. It was this one. You are fooling no one with your weird post edits and gaslighting.

Seba_Nile [1782274]

You stupid idiot, I didn’t post that, another torn player did, this is the timeline I posted.

For 3500 years - in what is called the Proto-Canaaite period, Jerusalem belonged to the Canaanites who worshipped many gods and goddesses. It wasn't until 2000 BC do scholars find a reference that debatably refers to Jerusalem. The word is 'Rusalimum' in texts of Egypts middle kingdom. Scholars believe that the name is consecration to 'shalim' a Canaanite deity of the netherworld from Ugaritic scriptures.

The territory passed from the Canaanites to the Egyptians, ultimately. So here we have the Egyptians and Canaanites being the original inhabitants of Jerusalem for 3500 years before the Jews ever conquered it.

Jerusalem was taken by King David in 1010BC and lost to the Egyptians in 925BC. Jehoash of Israel briefly recaptured it in 786 BC but then lost it to the Assyrians in 740BC. That's just 131 years, just about as long as the Crusaders' rule of Jerusalem in the Middle Ages.

The Jewish Hasmoneans re-took it in 140BC under Simon Thassi but then lost it to the Persian Seleucides in 134. Thats 6 more years of Jewish rule. Due to a Selucid civil war, Judeah incidentally became independent in the chaos in 116BC. In 87BC the Jewish Hasmonean king executed 800 Jews for sedition. In 47BC they lost Jerusalem again, this time to the Romans. Thats 69 years of rule. In total, off and on the Jews rules Jerusalem for MAYBE 206 years.

• The pre-constantine romans rules it for 250 years.
• The christian Byzantines rules it for 304 years.
• The Muslims rules it under the Rashidun, Umayyid and Abbasid empires for 332 years.
• The Fatimids rules it for 129 years.
• The crusaders took it from the Muslims and held it for 88 years.
• The Muslim ruler Saladin conquered it in 1187 and his descendants held it for 63 years.
• The Muslim Mamluk Empire ruled it for 236 years.
• The Ottomans rules it for 401 years.
• Thats 206 years of Jewish rule
• 392 years of Christian rule (where jews were expelled)
• 800+ years of Muslim rule (where all 3 religions lived peacefully)

SO NO, Jews are not the original inhabitants of the land.

Canaanites? Oops. The bible says god oredered them exterminated to extinction in a genocide that included many other unfortunate nations.
"Completely destroy them -- the hittiess, amorites, canaanites, perizzites, hivites and jebusites -- as the LORD your God has commanded you". [Deuteronomy 20:17]

Some Canaanites survived the Israelite genocide, who are they? Present day Lebanese derive their ancestry from Canaanite related populations. So Lebanese people are scientifically and genetically proven to be the original dwellers of not only Jerusalem but all of Palestine so the argument should pretty much end there.

And as Palestinian people are a religous confederation of Christians and Muslims, both consistently at peace with each other, that puts their birthright to it at 1200 combines years nearly a thousand years longer than jews ever reigned Jerusalem.

And like it always has been throughout Islamic history, the Jews are welcomed to stay there, but as co-inhabitants with their Christian and Muslim neighbours. No barbedwired walls, no soldiers shooting kids, no apartheid separating Palestinians from Jews, no stealing peoples homes like bandits.

Collete [1389080]

O god not more copy and paste from you mong

Asbestos [2605613]

It’s like the worst cut and paste too. It’s loaded full of weird propaganda that conflicts with itself. This hamster is no more a credentialed Muslim or Palestinian historical scholar than Britney Spears.


Repeating your lines from a Hamas Telegram and having a hand up Larten_Crepsley’s ass doesn’t make one an important puppet master. It just means a shitty hand and an anal prolapse.

Larten_Crepsley [1569797]

I actually feel sorry for you. Bare the chains around your neck proudly. Your masters will be here for an eternity.

Collete [1389080]

You base your Torn character on one of the actors from that movie The Four Lions right ?

Asbestos [2605613]

Of course you did. It was this one. You are fooling no one with your weird post edits and gaslighting.

Show post

Seba_Nile [1782274]

You stupid idiot, I didn’t post that, another torn player did, this is the timeline I posted.

For 3500 years - in what is called the Proto-Canaaite period, Jerusalem belonged to the Canaanites who worshipped many gods and goddesses. It wasn't until 2000 BC do scholars find a reference that debatably refers to Jerusalem. The word is 'Rusalimum' in texts of Egypts middle kingdom. Scholars believe that the name is consecration to 'shalim' a Canaanite deity of the netherworld from Ugaritic scriptures.

The territory passed from the Canaanites to the Egyptians, ultimately. So here we have the Egyptians and Canaanites being the original inhabitants of Jerusalem for 3500 years before the Jews ever conquered it.

Jerusalem was taken by King David in 1010BC and lost to the Egyptians in 925BC. Jehoash of Israel briefly recaptured it in 786 BC but then lost it to the Assyrians in 740BC. That's just 131 years, just about as long as the Crusaders' rule of Jerusalem in the Middle Ages.

The Jewish Hasmoneans re-took it in 140BC under Simon Thassi but then lost it to the Persian Seleucides in 134. Thats 6 more years of Jewish rule. Due to a Selucid civil war, Judeah incidentally became independent in the chaos in 116BC. In 87BC the Jewish Hasmonean king executed 800 Jews for sedition. In 47BC they lost Jerusalem again, this time to the Romans. Thats 69 years of rule. In total, off and on the Jews rules Jerusalem for MAYBE 206 years.

• The pre-constantine romans rules it for 250 years.
• The christian Byzantines rules it for 304 years.
• The Muslims rules it under the Rashidun, Umayyid and Abbasid empires for 332 years.
• The Fatimids rules it for 129 years.
• The crusaders took it from the Muslims and held it for 88 years.
• The Muslim ruler Saladin conquered it in 1187 and his descendants held it for 63 years.
• The Muslim Mamluk Empire ruled it for 236 years.
• The Ottomans rules it for 401 years.
• Thats 206 years of Jewish rule
• 392 years of Christian rule (where jews were expelled)
• 800+ years of Muslim rule (where all 3 religions lived peacefully)

SO NO, Jews are not the original inhabitants of the land.

Canaanites? Oops. The bible says god oredered them exterminated to extinction in a genocide that included many other unfortunate nations.
"Completely destroy them -- the hittiess, amorites, canaanites, perizzites, hivites and jebusites -- as the LORD your God has commanded you". [Deuteronomy 20:17]

Some Canaanites survived the Israelite genocide, who are they? Present day Lebanese derive their ancestry from Canaanite related populations. So Lebanese people are scientifically and genetically proven to be the original dwellers of not only Jerusalem but all of Palestine so the argument should pretty much end there.

And as Palestinian people are a religous confederation of Christians and Muslims, both consistently at peace with each other, that puts their birthright to it at 1200 combines years nearly a thousand years longer than jews ever reigned Jerusalem.

And like it always has been throughout Islamic history, the Jews are welcomed to stay there, but as co-inhabitants with their Christian and Muslim neighbours. No barbedwired walls, no soldiers shooting kids, no apartheid separating Palestinians from Jews, no stealing peoples homes like bandits.

deadalus29 [2536273]

Nope, those are lies.

It is well documented that the Israelite ruled the area for ~400 years strait (1000-578 BCE), and then more ~100 in the first century BC

Seba_Nile [1782274]

No Jewish state in Palestine lasted more than 80 years, try again. However under Muslim rule they lived peacefully along side their neighbours for many years.

Collete [1389080]

VeganBlazes [2052726]

says badasses but my brain automatically read Dumbasses

Seba_Nile [1782274]

I’ve never used a timeline from Wikipedia. Why do you have to lie?
By the looks of your profile, it seems you have gone crazy. We are obviously getting to you.

Show post

Asbestos [2605613]

Of course you did. It was this one. You are fooling no one with your weird post edits and gaslighting.

Seba_Nile [1782274]

You stupid idiot, I didn’t post that, another torn player did, this is the timeline I posted.

For 3500 years - in what is called the Proto-Canaaite period, Jerusalem belonged to the Canaanites who worshipped many gods and goddesses. It wasn't until 2000 BC do scholars find a reference that debatably refers to Jerusalem. The word is 'Rusalimum' in texts of Egypts middle kingdom. Scholars believe that the name is consecration to 'shalim' a Canaanite deity of the netherworld from Ugaritic scriptures.

The territory passed from the Canaanites to the Egyptians, ultimately. So here we have the Egyptians and Canaanites being the original inhabitants of Jerusalem for 3500 years before the Jews ever conquered it.

Jerusalem was taken by King David in 1010BC and lost to the Egyptians in 925BC. Jehoash of Israel briefly recaptured it in 786 BC but then lost it to the Assyrians in 740BC. That's just 131 years, just about as long as the Crusaders' rule of Jerusalem in the Middle Ages.

The Jewish Hasmoneans re-took it in 140BC under Simon Thassi but then lost it to the Persian Seleucides in 134. Thats 6 more years of Jewish rule. Due to a Selucid civil war, Judeah incidentally became independent in the chaos in 116BC. In 87BC the Jewish Hasmonean king executed 800 Jews for sedition. In 47BC they lost Jerusalem again, this time to the Romans. Thats 69 years of rule. In total, off and on the Jews rules Jerusalem for MAYBE 206 years.

• The pre-constantine romans rules it for 250 years.
• The christian Byzantines rules it for 304 years.
• The Muslims rules it under the Rashidun, Umayyid and Abbasid empires for 332 years.
• The Fatimids rules it for 129 years.
• The crusaders took it from the Muslims and held it for 88 years.
• The Muslim ruler Saladin conquered it in 1187 and his descendants held it for 63 years.
• The Muslim Mamluk Empire ruled it for 236 years.
• The Ottomans rules it for 401 years.
• Thats 206 years of Jewish rule
• 392 years of Christian rule (where jews were expelled)
• 800+ years of Muslim rule (where all 3 religions lived peacefully)

SO NO, Jews are not the original inhabitants of the land.

Canaanites? Oops. The bible says god oredered them exterminated to extinction in a genocide that included many other unfortunate nations.
"Completely destroy them -- the hittiess, amorites, canaanites, perizzites, hivites and jebusites -- as the LORD your God has commanded you". [Deuteronomy 20:17]

Some Canaanites survived the Israelite genocide, who are they? Present day Lebanese derive their ancestry from Canaanite related populations. So Lebanese people are scientifically and genetically proven to be the original dwellers of not only Jerusalem but all of Palestine so the argument should pretty much end there.

And as Palestinian people are a religous confederation of Christians and Muslims, both consistently at peace with each other, that puts their birthright to it at 1200 combines years nearly a thousand years longer than jews ever reigned Jerusalem.

And like it always has been throughout Islamic history, the Jews are welcomed to stay there, but as co-inhabitants with their Christian and Muslim neighbours. No barbedwired walls, no soldiers shooting kids, no apartheid separating Palestinians from Jews, no stealing peoples homes like bandits.

Collete [1389080]

O god not more copy and paste from you mong

Asbestos [2605613]

It’s like the worst cut and paste too. It’s loaded full of weird propaganda that conflicts with itself. This hamster is no more a credentialed Muslim or Palestinian historical scholar than Britney Spears.


Repeating your lines from a Hamas Telegram and having a hand up Larten_Crepsley’s ass doesn’t make one an important puppet master. It just means a shitty hand and an anal prolapse.

Larten_Crepsley [1569797]

I actually feel sorry for you. Bare the chains around your neck proudly. Your masters will be here for an eternity.

Seba_Nile [1782274]

Civilians with phones is is Israel biggest threat, they’re scared of their war crimes being exposed.
israeli coward with a gun, hides behind a human shield while shooting kids: click here

Asbestos [2605613]

Of course you did. It was this one. You are fooling no one with your weird post edits and gaslighting.

Show post

Seba_Nile [1782274]

You stupid idiot, I didn’t post that, another torn player did, this is the timeline I posted.

For 3500 years - in what is called the Proto-Canaaite period, Jerusalem belonged to the Canaanites who worshipped many gods and goddesses. It wasn't until 2000 BC do scholars find a reference that debatably refers to Jerusalem. The word is 'Rusalimum' in texts of Egypts middle kingdom. Scholars believe that the name is consecration to 'shalim' a Canaanite deity of the netherworld from Ugaritic scriptures.

The territory passed from the Canaanites to the Egyptians, ultimately. So here we have the Egyptians and Canaanites being the original inhabitants of Jerusalem for 3500 years before the Jews ever conquered it.

Jerusalem was taken by King David in 1010BC and lost to the Egyptians in 925BC. Jehoash of Israel briefly recaptured it in 786 BC but then lost it to the Assyrians in 740BC. That's just 131 years, just about as long as the Crusaders' rule of Jerusalem in the Middle Ages.

The Jewish Hasmoneans re-took it in 140BC under Simon Thassi but then lost it to the Persian Seleucides in 134. Thats 6 more years of Jewish rule. Due to a Selucid civil war, Judeah incidentally became independent in the chaos in 116BC. In 87BC the Jewish Hasmonean king executed 800 Jews for sedition. In 47BC they lost Jerusalem again, this time to the Romans. Thats 69 years of rule. In total, off and on the Jews rules Jerusalem for MAYBE 206 years.

• The pre-constantine romans rules it for 250 years.
• The christian Byzantines rules it for 304 years.
• The Muslims rules it under the Rashidun, Umayyid and Abbasid empires for 332 years.
• The Fatimids rules it for 129 years.
• The crusaders took it from the Muslims and held it for 88 years.
• The Muslim ruler Saladin conquered it in 1187 and his descendants held it for 63 years.
• The Muslim Mamluk Empire ruled it for 236 years.
• The Ottomans rules it for 401 years.
• Thats 206 years of Jewish rule
• 392 years of Christian rule (where jews were expelled)
• 800+ years of Muslim rule (where all 3 religions lived peacefully)

SO NO, Jews are not the original inhabitants of the land.

Canaanites? Oops. The bible says god oredered them exterminated to extinction in a genocide that included many other unfortunate nations.
"Completely destroy them -- the hittiess, amorites, canaanites, perizzites, hivites and jebusites -- as the LORD your God has commanded you". [Deuteronomy 20:17]

Some Canaanites survived the Israelite genocide, who are they? Present day Lebanese derive their ancestry from Canaanite related populations. So Lebanese people are scientifically and genetically proven to be the original dwellers of not only Jerusalem but all of Palestine so the argument should pretty much end there.

And as Palestinian people are a religous confederation of Christians and Muslims, both consistently at peace with each other, that puts their birthright to it at 1200 combines years nearly a thousand years longer than jews ever reigned Jerusalem.

And like it always has been throughout Islamic history, the Jews are welcomed to stay there, but as co-inhabitants with their Christian and Muslim neighbours. No barbedwired walls, no soldiers shooting kids, no apartheid separating Palestinians from Jews, no stealing peoples homes like bandits.

Collete [1389080]

O god not more copy and paste from you mong

Asbestos [2605613]

It’s like the worst cut and paste too. It’s loaded full of weird propaganda that conflicts with itself. This hamster is no more a credentialed Muslim or Palestinian historical scholar than Britney Spears.


Repeating your lines from a Hamas Telegram and having a hand up Larten_Crepsley’s ass doesn’t make one an important puppet master. It just means a shitty hand and an anal prolapse.

Larten_Crepsley [1569797]

I actually feel sorry for you. Bare the chains around your neck proudly. Your masters will be here for an eternity.

Asbestos [2605613]

lol. Crapsley going all in on glorifying slavery, between his poorly imagined meme (or probable sexual fantasy) and his “slave trader” faction title. I can’t make the guy look any worse than he makes himself look. This one is almost funnier than when he posted his pig pic from the mysterious stranger.


It’s 2023. No one thinks slavery is cool.

Seba_Nile [1782274]

You stupid idiot, I didn’t post that, another torn player did, this is the timeline I posted.

For 3500 years - in what is called the Proto-Canaaite period, Jerusalem belonged to the Canaanites who worshipped many gods and goddesses. It wasn't until 2000 BC do scholars find a reference that debatably refers to Jerusalem. The word is 'Rusalimum' in texts of Egypts middle kingdom. Scholars believe that the name is consecration to 'shalim' a Canaanite deity of the netherworld from Ugaritic scriptures.

The territory passed from the Canaanites to the Egyptians, ultimately. So here we have the Egyptians and Canaanites being the original inhabitants of Jerusalem for 3500 years before the Jews ever conquered it.

Jerusalem was taken by King David in 1010BC and lost to the Egyptians in 925BC. Jehoash of Israel briefly recaptured it in 786 BC but then lost it to the Assyrians in 740BC. That's just 131 years, just about as long as the Crusaders' rule of Jerusalem in the Middle Ages.

The Jewish Hasmoneans re-took it in 140BC under Simon Thassi but then lost it to the Persian Seleucides in 134. Thats 6 more years of Jewish rule. Due to a Selucid civil war, Judeah incidentally became independent in the chaos in 116BC. In 87BC the Jewish Hasmonean king executed 800 Jews for sedition. In 47BC they lost Jerusalem again, this time to the Romans. Thats 69 years of rule. In total, off and on the Jews rules Jerusalem for MAYBE 206 years.

• The pre-constantine romans rules it for 250 years.
• The christian Byzantines rules it for 304 years.
• The Muslims rules it under the Rashidun, Umayyid and Abbasid empires for 332 years.
• The Fatimids rules it for 129 years.
• The crusaders took it from the Muslims and held it for 88 years.
• The Muslim ruler Saladin conquered it in 1187 and his descendants held it for 63 years.
• The Muslim Mamluk Empire ruled it for 236 years.
• The Ottomans rules it for 401 years.
• Thats 206 years of Jewish rule
• 392 years of Christian rule (where jews were expelled)
• 800+ years of Muslim rule (where all 3 religions lived peacefully)

SO NO, Jews are not the original inhabitants of the land.

Canaanites? Oops. The bible says god oredered them exterminated to extinction in a genocide that included many other unfortunate nations.
"Completely destroy them -- the hittiess, amorites, canaanites, perizzites, hivites and jebusites -- as the LORD your God has commanded you". [Deuteronomy 20:17]

Some Canaanites survived the Israelite genocide, who are they? Present day Lebanese derive their ancestry from Canaanite related populations. So Lebanese people are scientifically and genetically proven to be the original dwellers of not only Jerusalem but all of Palestine so the argument should pretty much end there.

And as Palestinian people are a religous confederation of Christians and Muslims, both consistently at peace with each other, that puts their birthright to it at 1200 combines years nearly a thousand years longer than jews ever reigned Jerusalem.

And like it always has been throughout Islamic history, the Jews are welcomed to stay there, but as co-inhabitants with their Christian and Muslim neighbours. No barbedwired walls, no soldiers shooting kids, no apartheid separating Palestinians from Jews, no stealing peoples homes like bandits.

Show post

Collete [1389080]

O god not more copy and paste from you mong

Asbestos [2605613]

It’s like the worst cut and paste too. It’s loaded full of weird propaganda that conflicts with itself. This hamster is no more a credentialed Muslim or Palestinian historical scholar than Britney Spears.


Repeating your lines from a Hamas Telegram and having a hand up Larten_Crepsley’s ass doesn’t make one an important puppet master. It just means a shitty hand and an anal prolapse.

Larten_Crepsley [1569797]

I actually feel sorry for you. Bare the chains around your neck proudly. Your masters will be here for an eternity.

Asbestos [2605613]

lol. Crapsley going all in on glorifying slavery, between his poorly imagined meme (or probable sexual fantasy) and his “slave trader” faction title. I can’t make the guy look any worse than he makes himself look. This one is almost funnier than when he posted his pig pic from the mysterious stranger.


It’s 2023. No one thinks slavery is cool.

Larten_Crepsley [1569797]

You have a profile picture of a cowboy shooting an Arab point blank. All this bullshit and facade of you hiding behind ethics etc, we see through it. You’re a bigot and you’re racist.

Seba_Nile [1782274]

You stupid idiot, I didn’t post that, another torn player did, this is the timeline I posted.

For 3500 years - in what is called the Proto-Canaaite period, Jerusalem belonged to the Canaanites who worshipped many gods and goddesses. It wasn't until 2000 BC do scholars find a reference that debatably refers to Jerusalem. The word is 'Rusalimum' in texts of Egypts middle kingdom. Scholars believe that the name is consecration to 'shalim' a Canaanite deity of the netherworld from Ugaritic scriptures.

The territory passed from the Canaanites to the Egyptians, ultimately. So here we have the Egyptians and Canaanites being the original inhabitants of Jerusalem for 3500 years before the Jews ever conquered it.

Jerusalem was taken by King David in 1010BC and lost to the Egyptians in 925BC. Jehoash of Israel briefly recaptured it in 786 BC but then lost it to the Assyrians in 740BC. That's just 131 years, just about as long as the Crusaders' rule of Jerusalem in the Middle Ages.

The Jewish Hasmoneans re-took it in 140BC under Simon Thassi but then lost it to the Persian Seleucides in 134. Thats 6 more years of Jewish rule. Due to a Selucid civil war, Judeah incidentally became independent in the chaos in 116BC. In 87BC the Jewish Hasmonean king executed 800 Jews for sedition. In 47BC they lost Jerusalem again, this time to the Romans. Thats 69 years of rule. In total, off and on the Jews rules Jerusalem for MAYBE 206 years.

• The pre-constantine romans rules it for 250 years.
• The christian Byzantines rules it for 304 years.
• The Muslims rules it under the Rashidun, Umayyid and Abbasid empires for 332 years.
• The Fatimids rules it for 129 years.
• The crusaders took it from the Muslims and held it for 88 years.
• The Muslim ruler Saladin conquered it in 1187 and his descendants held it for 63 years.
• The Muslim Mamluk Empire ruled it for 236 years.
• The Ottomans rules it for 401 years.
• Thats 206 years of Jewish rule
• 392 years of Christian rule (where jews were expelled)
• 800+ years of Muslim rule (where all 3 religions lived peacefully)

SO NO, Jews are not the original inhabitants of the land.

Canaanites? Oops. The bible says god oredered them exterminated to extinction in a genocide that included many other unfortunate nations.
"Completely destroy them -- the hittiess, amorites, canaanites, perizzites, hivites and jebusites -- as the LORD your God has commanded you". [Deuteronomy 20:17]

Some Canaanites survived the Israelite genocide, who are they? Present day Lebanese derive their ancestry from Canaanite related populations. So Lebanese people are scientifically and genetically proven to be the original dwellers of not only Jerusalem but all of Palestine so the argument should pretty much end there.

And as Palestinian people are a religous confederation of Christians and Muslims, both consistently at peace with each other, that puts their birthright to it at 1200 combines years nearly a thousand years longer than jews ever reigned Jerusalem.

And like it always has been throughout Islamic history, the Jews are welcomed to stay there, but as co-inhabitants with their Christian and Muslim neighbours. No barbedwired walls, no soldiers shooting kids, no apartheid separating Palestinians from Jews, no stealing peoples homes like bandits.

Show post

Collete [1389080]

O god not more copy and paste from you mong

Asbestos [2605613]

It’s like the worst cut and paste too. It’s loaded full of weird propaganda that conflicts with itself. This hamster is no more a credentialed Muslim or Palestinian historical scholar than Britney Spears.


Repeating your lines from a Hamas Telegram and having a hand up Larten_Crepsley’s ass doesn’t make one an important puppet master. It just means a shitty hand and an anal prolapse.

Larten_Crepsley [1569797]

I actually feel sorry for you. Bare the chains around your neck proudly. Your masters will be here for an eternity.

Asbestos [2605613]

lol. Crapsley going all in on glorifying slavery, between his poorly imagined meme (or probable sexual fantasy) and his “slave trader” faction title. I can’t make the guy look any worse than he makes himself look. This one is almost funnier than when he posted his pig pic from the mysterious stranger.


It’s 2023. No one thinks slavery is cool.

Larten_Crepsley [1569797]

You have a profile picture of a cowboy shooting an Arab point blank. All this bullshit and facade of you hiding behind ethics etc, we see through it. You’re a bigot and you’re racist.