Intricate [1957884]

Pro-Palestine activists claim that ”Israel is lying” and in the same breath cite Hamas, a terror sect, as a reliable source of information.

Hamas, which kills and tortures its civilians.

Hamas, which uses Palestinians as human shields.

Hamas, which TRAINS and CELEBRATES children "martyrs".

Hamas, which wears civilian clothes to maximize the number of civilian casualties.

Yet pro-Palestine activists relentlessly cite them and their numbers as a reliable source of information.

We keep hearing that 12,000 people and 5,000 children have been killed. Where do these quick numbers keep coming from? From Hamas? The same terrorist sect that’s hiding in underground tunnels? The same terrorist sect that slaughters its people and aims to turn the whole world into an Islamic caliphate?

It took Israel weeks to identify the 1,400 civilians murdered on October 7. Israel, by the way, produces more scientific research than the entire Arab world combined.

Meanwhile, pro-Palestine activists are relying on Hamas’ information. The barbarian terrorist sect that’s hiding in tunnels.

Relying on Hamas’ information is no different than relying on ISIS media channels for legitimate information.

These terrorist sects behead and slaughter their people.

Stop buying and spreading the terrorists’ propaganda.

- Laui Ahmed

Asbestos [2605613]

You may be missing the point completely. In fact you definitely are. No one is calling me a Nazi at all. I’m not Israeli and I’m not a Jew. But I will stand up to hate speech when I see it.

The point all along is how disgusting and reprehensible it is to call Jews, Israelis, Zionists, etc Nazis. People can have whatever opinion about Israel v Palestine they want, but on this one item there really isn’t a compromise. It’s hate speech. In the same vein, I think it would be absolute hate speech to call Palestinians “a bunch of IDF soldiers” or Ukrainians “a bunch of Russians” or African Americans “a bunch of plantation owners” or Muslims “terrorists” simply by dint of their religion.


If you can’t see why that kind of speech is wrong, shame on you.

If you think I’m a fascist, that’s fine. You’re wrong but you’re entitled to your opinion. (That right there flies in the face of fascism) I’m also not in favor of genocide.


The optimal end to this conflict in my eyes is for the Palestinians to remove this criminal syndicate of serial killers as their government and figure out how to live in harmony with their neighbors without vowing to wipe them off the map constantly.

Vernunzio [730674]

I think you are the one who should be more honest.

Saying occupation and apartheid over and over and over does not make you right or just.

I am pro-Israel's right to exist, in 2023 and always, and to practice their religion and live their lives without the threat of violence.

I am also pro-Palestine's right to exist, in 2023 and always, and to practice their religion and live their lives without the threat of violence.

If you disagree, that exposes the fraudulence of any purportedly moralist arguments you are making.

Sidgar [1828507]

You act like the first time you heard occupation and apartheid was from me. Now I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the genius who figured these things out prior to my own birth.

You say you want Israel to exist. I can honestly and openly say I too want Israel to exist, but a better version of it. A version where Palestinians who lived there for centuries before European migrants arrived are given all the rights they deserve. A version where Jews live in peace with Muslims, Christians and any other groups. Not the current version of racial supremacy and domination.

You say you want Palestine to exist as well. You've said that multiple times and here's where I ask you to clarify yourself. Do you advocate tearing down the settlements in the west bank which are illegal under international law to facilitate the establishment of the Palestinian state? I've so far assumed you're not for that. Maybe I'm wrong.

Asbestos [2605613]

You may be missing the point completely. In fact you definitely are. No one is calling me a Nazi at all. I’m not Israeli and I’m not a Jew. But I will stand up to hate speech when I see it.

The point all along is how disgusting and reprehensible it is to call Jews, Israelis, Zionists, etc Nazis. People can have whatever opinion about Israel v Palestine they want, but on this one item there really isn’t a compromise. It’s hate speech. In the same vein, I think it would be absolute hate speech to call Palestinians “a bunch of IDF soldiers” or Ukrainians “a bunch of Russians” or African Americans “a bunch of plantation owners” or Muslims “terrorists” simply by dint of their religion.


If you can’t see why that kind of speech is wrong, shame on you.

If you think I’m a fascist, that’s fine. You’re wrong but you’re entitled to your opinion. (That right there flies in the face of fascism) I’m also not in favor of genocide.


The optimal end to this conflict in my eyes is for the Palestinians to remove this criminal syndicate of serial killers as their government and figure out how to live in harmony with their neighbors without vowing to wipe them off the map constantly.

Lenin [2199004]

In the same vein, I think it would be absolute hate speech to call Palestinians “a bunch of IDF soldiers” or Ukrainians “a bunch of Russians” or African Americans “a bunch of plantation owners” or Muslims “terrorists” simply by dint of their religion.

nah lmao. only that last one is of any real concern, and doesnt fit with the rest. the rest are delusional to think of as "hate speech".

the fact is, jews, israeilis, zionists, whatever, are not above being "nazi-like" by virtue of their history any more than a communist, roma, or ukrainian, russian, or pole is. any individual/state in those victim groups is capable of being colloquially "nazi-like".

the liberal use of the smearing cry of "anti-semetism" at each and every directed comment towards israel is a deliberate attempt to terminate thought and critique, nothing else. israel, despite the ethnonationalist wishes of their government, is not "judaism".

take your "shame" and shove it.

Asbestos [2605613]

All the words available in the language, and the one you assholes think is cute to use is the one that would be the most hurtful to the real victims of the real Nazis, because you know it will be the most offensive.


Thanks for showing us who you are.

BoBoiBoy [3013897]

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BoBoiBoy [3013897]

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Asbestos [2605613]

All the words available in the language, and the one you assholes think is cute to use is the one that would be the most hurtful to the real victims of the real Nazis, because you know it will be the most offensive.


Thanks for showing us who you are.

Lenin [2199004]

because you know it will be the most offensive

no, folks use "Nazi" because they feel the term fits, as they do in absolutely every single other situation that it's used. the insinuation that anyone uses "Nazi" as an insult with an anti-semitic ulterior motive is entirely a manufactured hysteria without even the slightest bit of merit.

tone policing the struggle against genocide with fraudulent semantics. just one step removed from outright claiming that people calling what is happening in gaza a genocide is actually committing a genocide on israel. delusional and malicious. fascistic.

Asbestos [2605613]

Using “Nazi” against Jews isn’t an anti-Semitic ulterior motive. It’s an overt primary motive. It’s simple hate speech, and it is absolutely intended to be such. There have been other very large genocidal movements: Stalin, the Armenian genocide, China. You aren’t choosing to use those to describe you “feelings” on genocide. You’re using this one, and there is a reason for it. Because you want to use something that will be impactful as a slur. “Feeling” that a term fits doesn’t make it ok. That dog doesn’t hunt with any other hate speech, and it doesn’t hunt with this one either. By that flawed logic, one could refer to any number of groups with racial or religious slurs and trivialize it with your “feelings”.


Your edgelord bullshit is not cool. You’re being a dick to other human beings on the basis of their ethnicity and religion. It is outright discrimination.


Have whatever opinions you want. Don’t use hate speech.


I would tell you to do better, but that dog doesn’t hunt either. You have convinced me that you do not have that ability. So you just keep doing whatever racism you “feel”.

Intricate [1957884]

Pro-Palestine activists claim that ”Israel is lying” and in the same breath cite Hamas, a terror sect, as a reliable source of information.

Hamas, which kills and tortures its civilians.

Hamas, which uses Palestinians as human shields.

Hamas, which TRAINS and CELEBRATES children "martyrs".

Hamas, which wears civilian clothes to maximize the number of civilian casualties.

Yet pro-Palestine activists relentlessly cite them and their numbers as a reliable source of information.

We keep hearing that 12,000 people and 5,000 children have been killed. Where do these quick numbers keep coming from? From Hamas? The same terrorist sect that’s hiding in underground tunnels? The same terrorist sect that slaughters its people and aims to turn the whole world into an Islamic caliphate?

It took Israel weeks to identify the 1,400 civilians murdered on October 7. Israel, by the way, produces more scientific research than the entire Arab world combined.

Meanwhile, pro-Palestine activists are relying on Hamas’ information. The barbarian terrorist sect that’s hiding in tunnels.

Relying on Hamas’ information is no different than relying on ISIS media channels for legitimate information.

These terrorist sects behead and slaughter their people.

Stop buying and spreading the terrorists’ propaganda.

- Laui Ahmed

Sidgar [1828507]

If you’re talking about the casualty numbers, experts agree that they are reliable. Your case would be helped if Israel wasn’t bombing Gaza indiscriminately, leveling entire neighborhoods and killing entire extended families. The UN has called it a graveyard of children. I’ve also heard it called the graveyard of humanity’s conscience.

Intricate [1957884]

Pro-Palestine activists claim that ”Israel is lying” and in the same breath cite Hamas, a terror sect, as a reliable source of information.

Hamas, which kills and tortures its civilians.

Hamas, which uses Palestinians as human shields.

Hamas, which TRAINS and CELEBRATES children "martyrs".

Hamas, which wears civilian clothes to maximize the number of civilian casualties.

Yet pro-Palestine activists relentlessly cite them and their numbers as a reliable source of information.

We keep hearing that 12,000 people and 5,000 children have been killed. Where do these quick numbers keep coming from? From Hamas? The same terrorist sect that’s hiding in underground tunnels? The same terrorist sect that slaughters its people and aims to turn the whole world into an Islamic caliphate?

It took Israel weeks to identify the 1,400 civilians murdered on October 7. Israel, by the way, produces more scientific research than the entire Arab world combined.

Meanwhile, pro-Palestine activists are relying on Hamas’ information. The barbarian terrorist sect that’s hiding in tunnels.

Relying on Hamas’ information is no different than relying on ISIS media channels for legitimate information.

These terrorist sects behead and slaughter their people.

Stop buying and spreading the terrorists’ propaganda.

- Laui Ahmed

Sidgar [1828507]

If you’re talking about the casualty numbers, experts agree that they are reliable. Your case would be helped if Israel wasn’t bombing Gaza indiscriminately, leveling entire neighborhoods and killing entire extended families. The UN has called it a graveyard of children. I’ve also heard it called the graveyard of humanity’s conscience.

Intricate [1957884]