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    The Hamas terrorist billionaires who live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels as they decry Gaza poverty after profiting from misery and terror


    • Estimates suggest some of Hamas's leaders have a net worth in the billions
    • Israel and other critics accuse the group of spending money on luxuries instead of helping the people of Gaza
    And while the majority of citizens in the densely populated territory - which is a quarter of the size of Greater London - languish in poverty, a select few live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels.
    According to the Embassy of Israel in the US, three of Hamas's most senior leaders - Mousa Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - have net worths of more than $3billion each. The embassy also claims that Hamas's annual turnover is $1billion and suggests the group is second only to ISIS as the world's richest terror group.






    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (far right) is seen on a private plane with other senior Hamas officials









    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (centre) pictured in a luxury hotel with two of his sons


    In a video, the Embassy of Israel in the US accused the group of using its funds for building tunnels and arming its fighters rather than building vital infrastructure such as wells and water treatment.
    A study from 2021 suggested that about one-quarter of disease spread in the territory is caused by water pollution, and 12 per cent of deaths of young children are due to infections related to contaminated water.
    'While Gazans are deprived of basic needs, Hamas uses aid and funds to line their own pockets,' the embassy said in a post on X (formerly Twitter).
    Israel has also said Hamas continues to attack across the border without building civilian bomb shelters, knowing the Israeli military will retaliate.
    Instead, Israel says Hamas's leadership hoards its wealth, uses Palestinians as human shields and allows the population it claims to govern go hungry.
    According to German news outlet Bild, there are four Hamas officials who have grown particularly wealthy over the years - the trio of Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - as well as a fourth named Younis Qafisheh.



    Haniyeh is believed to be the richest of the three - despite once vowing to live only on olive oil and za'atar spice.
    A 61-year-old father of 13 children, Haniyeh has been in hiding since 2019, living the high-life in luxury hotels in Qatar and Turkey.
    German tabloid Bild reports that he often jets between Tehran, Istanbul, Moscow and Cairo in his private jet to meet leaders in friendly nations, and two of his sons Maaz and Abdel Salam are often seen in Instagram posts lounging on hotel beds in Istanbul or Doha.
    Maaz, who is a very wealthy real estate mogul in his own right, is known on the Gaza Strip as the 'father of houses'. When he's in Turkey, he is often seen in the company of attractive women and alcohol, despite his Islamic faith.
    His brother Abdel Salam, meanwhile, was disgraced after being found to be siphoning off money in his role as sports ambassador for Hamas's 'Shura Council' (Politburo), Bild says.
    The publication estimates his net worth to be $2.5million, while the Israeli embassy to the US suggested it was as much as $3.2billion. Another publication, i24News, wrote last month that his wealth could be as high as $5billion.
    Khaled Mashal, 67, is the former head of Hamas's political bureau.
    He fled Damascus to escape the Arab Spring in Syria and, like Haniyeh, is now living in Qatar. From there, he handles real estate and financial transactions for Hamas.
    When he fled Syria, Bild reports, he is said to have taken $1.5billion from Hamas's headquarters in Damascus. Israel's US embassy puts his net worth at $4billion.
    Mousa Abu Marzouk, 72, is another Hamas high-flyer. He is considered the second in command within the group, and is a foreign minister of sorts.
    After spending 14 years in the US - where he was in 1995 arrested for activities supporting terrorism and deported after two years - he moved to Jordan, then to Syria and then to Cairo in 2012.
    Despite his arrest, he kept hold of his money, and today Bild reported his fortune is estimated at $2billion, while the Israeli embassy to the US puts it higher, at $3billion.
    Younis Qafisheh, 67, is a fourth Hamas official highlighted by Bild for his immense wealth.








    One of Haniyeh's sons is seen posing for an Instagram photo in a luxury hotel







    Haniyeh's sons and other Hamas officials enjoy themselves in a luxury hotel

    Despite its accumulation of wealth, however, Hamas has avoided responsibility for building infrastructure and protecting the citizens of Gaza.
    In fact, just last week, Abu Marzouk declared that the political bureau of the terror group is not responsible for protecting the coastal strip's civilians amid the ongoing Israeli bombardment of the territory.
    'We built the tunnels because we have no other way of protecting ourselves from being killed in airstrikes. We are fighting from inside the tunnels,' he said.
    Passing the buck further, he added: 'Seventy-five per cent of the population of Gaza are refugees, and it is the UN's responsibility to protect them.'
    According to the Times of Israel, he then went on to claim that it was Israel's obligation to provide for the needs of Gazans under the Geneva Convention.
    While all the sources of Hamas's income may remain unknown, one thing is certain: the group will not be diverting its funds to help the civilians of Gaza, who with each passing day are slipping deeper and deeper into a humanitarian crisis.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12706715/Hamas-terrorist-billionaires-live-marble-floored-mansions.html

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    Wow - a dailymail reader - sums it all up.
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    Vernunzio [730674]

    Well meaning college students and others, this is the type of person you align with when you protest Israel and chant from the river to the sea.

    Clearly has no wish for peace and wishes for genocide instead. Delusional and rejects 2-state solution. Will only deal with Israel with violence, and thinks cowardly use of human shields is glorious.


    What would you do if confronted by an army of people who think this way? And you wonder why Israel voted in a right wing president.

    Smilin-Assassin [965750]

    Well meaning college students and others, this is the type of person you align with when you protest Israel and chant from the river to the sea.
    Why are you speaking to the mass? To gain followers? To make them see me as an enemy? The mass isn't the one debating your islamophobic nature. I am. Keep your argument aimed in my direction like man.

    Clearly has no wish for peace and wishes for genocide instead.
    Peace? I am the one without the wish for peace? Then i would be a zionist, mate. But I am not. I want peace for my brothers and sisters in Palestine. Peace from the ones commiting genocide.

    Delusional and rejects 2-state solution.
    Delusional would be those who think 2-state solution will work when it has been a 2-state for 75 years. And all it has been for the Palestinians is an open air prison. Tried and failed. Remind me what the definiton of insanity is.

    thinks cowardly use of human shields is glorious.
    Nope. Never said it. Never supported it. Never plan to start.

    What would you do if confronted by an army of people who think this way?
    Again, stop trying to bring other into this argument so that your gang will be bigger. Talk to me. Not them. Keep your focus on me and my argument.

    And you wonder why Israel voted in a right wing president.
    Nope. Never did. I dont give 2 shits about what the occupiers do as long as my people are safe and happy and living freely.

    Number of fallacies used in your one post: 5
    1. Straw Man Fallacy
    2. Hasty Generalization
    3. False Dichotomy
    4. Ad Hominem
    5. Generalization Fallacy


    Vernunzio [730674]

    Yes, I do want the well-intentioned but misguided people supporting Hamas to realize what it is they are supporting. Thank you for that.

    You want me to aim my argument at you "like a man?"

    A man is capable of reflecting on his own preconceptions and considering he may have been wrong about some things. A man is capable of seeing the humanity in the other side. A man does not cheer the death of civilians or support those who use civilians as human shields. A man does not advocate genocide as the way toward "peace." A man can see that both sides of this endless conflict have watered the land with enough blood, and it is time to fight for peace, and to oust Hamas and Netanyahu, and do our best to build bridges between people as all of our prophets and godly rabbis and imams would have wanted us to do. Yes, it may seem impossible, it certainly will not be easy. But a man is not afraid of something seeming impossible. Can also substitute human for man in all of those sentences, as it applies to women as well.

    You are not a man.

    You are a coward, you couch Jihadist.

    Everyone can see through your delusional ranting and raving, and lies and contradictions. It's not worth reading your vile posts a second time to quote them.

    Smilin-Assassin [965750]

    "thumbs up emoji"

    You win. And the saddest reply ever award goes to ..... drum roll .... vernunzio!!

    Couch jihadist out "peace emoji"

    Vernunzio [730674]

    I say peace, stop killing, and you call it saddest reply ever.


    Everyone sees through you. No reasoning with couch jihadists.

    Smilin-Assassin [965750]

    Yeah. I love killing. That's why you can see me calling "off with their heads" on every post and spreading hate towards Hamas because they call for peace like you and let the POWs go. What a sad bunch of ****s they are.

    That's why I am supporting Israel dropping more bombs on one of the most densely populated cities in the world. Last I checked, it was 25k tons and counting. 30+ days of bombing, 10k civilians killed. 4k of that are children. some 2.2k under rubble which of 1.2k is children.

    Fully in love with killing.

    Bless your intelligence, Vernunzio. Bless your intelligence.
    You've been consistently posting about killing one side. Backtrack and gaslight though, that's what you're good at.

    But if even a few people see you revealing your true intentions, it will be worth the time.

    Civilian casualties are a tragedy. But let us not lose sight that this is a war that Hamas started, Hamas intentionally imbeds itself in the civilian population, and Hamas actively prevented civilians from leaving Gaza when Israel tried to get them to evacuate.

    It's a tragedy and Israel is not blameless. But this is exactly what Hamas wants. The unwilling martyrs, as you've accidentally revealed is how you think of them, are a price that Hamas is happy to pay.

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    The most articulate and well laid out response message to Israels citizens.
    Please give the respect of listening to it before saying/posting anything.

    update: i removed the video due to things being said about the guy that i will looking into verifying, if he is indeed part of a terror group or some type of extremest nutjob i do apologize. i had no idea who he is just that ive seen snippets of him on random social medias, and saw this one video and decided to post it for people thoughts about it.

    Vernunzio [730674]

    A two-state solution is the only peaceful solution.

    One state solution is not-so-subtle code for the elimination of Israel.

    You can do better than this.

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    How about you let some random Americans take your home, your land, you money, everything you own, your agriculture and then talk about two state solution. Even then even after accepting these Zionists as refugees, the Palestinians agreed to a two state solution every time but Israel broke it. In 2015 there was an uproar when Netanyahu said there will be no Palestinian state if he is elected again.
    usa vetos Palestine from even joining UN as it claims Palestine does not exist.




    Ben Shapiro the coward lot all credibility when he shared and was exposed for sharing an AI image claiming it was an Israeli child. He then cried to his followers that he did not know it was A.I
    I see one clip of a few seconds where Shapiro objected to the way the student premised her question, and then 15 minutes of the guy on the couch (is that Smilin_Assassin?) characterizing the interaction.

    Wikipedia says that in what you call the march of return, while most of the protesters were peaceful, some directed acts of violence at Israeli soldiers. Out of tens of thousands of protesters, the fact that 223 were killed is terrible and tragic, but it hardly indicates widespread violent suppression. It indicates more that attacking armed soldiers is a bad idea.

    You and I both know that your characterization of Palestine accepting and Israel breaking a two-state solution is fantasy.

    I understand that some Palestinians have made claims for property loss resulting from the 1948 invasion of Israel by multiple countries, which Israel won and kept some territory (losing wars has consequences, ask the Ottomans), but I still hope that if the claims are valid they can be addressed fairly under the law and financially compensated, because innocent civilians do not deserve to pay the price for the war mongering of their governments, just like the innocent civilians today do not deserve to be used by Hamas as human shields.

    In the US, I do not think someone taking my property would give me the legal right to kick down the door and behead their children. If we want to make an apples to apples comparison, it would be if I lived on the northern border and the US invaded Canada and was repelled and Canada kept a part of Montana that I lived in as a result. I'd probably try to move on with my life and look to my government for help resettling, rather than beheading Canadian civilians or burning them alive. But as long as we're talking financial compensation, the Palestinian civilians should ask Hamas what has happened to those billions of dollars of financial aid that Hamas has received.

    My question to you is, do you want peace and co-existence in the region, or are you another one of the zealots who wants to eliminate Israel, seek a one-state solution, free Palestine from the river to the sea, or any of the other coded calls for genocide that Hamas makes against the Israeli people? Based on what I've seen from you so far, you're simply an extremist agitator spreading dishonest propaganda and trafficking in antisemitism. But I am willing to reconsider and even speak with you directly if you can discuss in good faith.

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    update: i removed the video due to things being said about the guy that i will looking into verifying, if he is indeed part of a terror group or some type of extremest nutjob i do apologize. i had no idea who he is just that ive seen snippets of him on random social medias, and saw this one video and decided to post it for people thoughts about it.

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    Smilin-Assassin [965750]

    Well meaning college students and others, this is the type of person you align with when you protest Israel and chant from the river to the sea.
    Why are you speaking to the mass? To gain followers? To make them see me as an enemy? The mass isn't the one debating your islamophobic nature. I am. Keep your argument aimed in my direction like man.

    Clearly has no wish for peace and wishes for genocide instead.
    Peace? I am the one without the wish for peace? Then i would be a zionist, mate. But I am not. I want peace for my brothers and sisters in Palestine. Peace from the ones commiting genocide.

    Delusional and rejects 2-state solution.
    Delusional would be those who think 2-state solution will work when it has been a 2-state for 75 years. And all it has been for the Palestinians is an open air prison. Tried and failed. Remind me what the definiton of insanity is.

    thinks cowardly use of human shields is glorious.
    Nope. Never said it. Never supported it. Never plan to start.

    What would you do if confronted by an army of people who think this way?
    Again, stop trying to bring other into this argument so that your gang will be bigger. Talk to me. Not them. Keep your focus on me and my argument.

    And you wonder why Israel voted in a right wing president.
    Nope. Never did. I dont give 2 shits about what the occupiers do as long as my people are safe and happy and living freely.

    Number of fallacies used in your one post: 5
    1. Straw Man Fallacy
    2. Hasty Generalization
    3. False Dichotomy
    4. Ad Hominem
    5. Generalization Fallacy


    Vernunzio [730674]

    Yes, I do want the well-intentioned but misguided people supporting Hamas to realize what it is they are supporting. Thank you for that.

    You want me to aim my argument at you "like a man?"

    A man is capable of reflecting on his own preconceptions and considering he may have been wrong about some things. A man is capable of seeing the humanity in the other side. A man does not cheer the death of civilians or support those who use civilians as human shields. A man does not advocate genocide as the way toward "peace." A man can see that both sides of this endless conflict have watered the land with enough blood, and it is time to fight for peace, and to oust Hamas and Netanyahu, and do our best to build bridges between people as all of our prophets and godly rabbis and imams would have wanted us to do. Yes, it may seem impossible, it certainly will not be easy. But a man is not afraid of something seeming impossible. Can also substitute human for man in all of those sentences, as it applies to women as well.

    You are not a man.

    You are a coward, you couch Jihadist.

    Everyone can see through your delusional ranting and raving, and lies and contradictions. It's not worth reading your vile posts a second time to quote them.

    Smilin-Assassin [965750]

    "thumbs up emoji"

    You win. And the saddest reply ever award goes to ..... drum roll .... vernunzio!!

    Couch jihadist out "peace emoji"

    Vernunzio [730674]

    I say peace, stop killing, and you call it saddest reply ever.


    Everyone sees through you. No reasoning with couch jihadists.

    Smilin-Assassin [965750]

    Yeah. I love killing. That's why you can see me calling "off with their heads" on every post and spreading hate towards Hamas because they call for peace like you and let the POWs go. What a sad bunch of ****s they are.

    That's why I am supporting Israel dropping more bombs on one of the most densely populated cities in the world. Last I checked, it was 25k tons and counting. 30+ days of bombing, 10k civilians killed. 4k of that are children. some 2.2k under rubble which of 1.2k is children.

    Fully in love with killing.

    Bless your intelligence, Vernunzio. Bless your intelligence.

    Vernunzio [730674]

    You've been consistently posting about killing one side. Backtrack and gaslight though, that's what you're good at.

    But if even a few people see you revealing your true intentions, it will be worth the time.

    Civilian casualties are a tragedy. But let us not lose sight that this is a war that Hamas started, Hamas intentionally imbeds itself in the civilian population, and Hamas actively prevented civilians from leaving Gaza when Israel tried to get them to evacuate.

    It's a tragedy and Israel is not blameless. But this is exactly what Hamas wants. The unwilling martyrs, as you've accidentally revealed is how you think of them, are a price that Hamas is happy to pay.
    Please quote my consistent posts about killing one side and prove to everyone on Torn that I am pro-genocide. Please, I am begging.

    Yes, it will be worth the time. Now Please quote all I said about killing and committing genocide against the zionists.

    This is a war that Hamas started only if you go back 31 days. Go further back. Go to to West Bank where there is no Hamas. Your facts are just as messed up as you are.

    How do you know what Hamas exactly wants? Based on their actions? If we use that same method, what do you think the zionists want?

    If Hamas wants Palestinians to die, why don't they do it without getting the zionists involved? And why are the zionists involved in killing the Palestinians?

    On another irrelevant note; do you think up all this shit because think out of your ass? I hear laxatives help clear up and ease your bowel movements. Try it. Maybe your thinking out of the ass won't be this shitty then.

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    daprinceomar [2125322]

    The most articulate and well laid out response message to Israels citizens.
    Please give the respect of listening to it before saying/posting anything.

    update: i removed the video due to things being said about the guy that i will looking into verifying, if he is indeed part of a terror group or some type of extremest nutjob i do apologize. i had no idea who he is just that ive seen snippets of him on random social medias, and saw this one video and decided to post it for people thoughts about it.

    Vernunzio [730674]

    A two-state solution is the only peaceful solution.

    One state solution is not-so-subtle code for the elimination of Israel.

    You can do better than this.

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    How about you let some random Americans take your home, your land, you money, everything you own, your agriculture and then talk about two state solution. Even then even after accepting these Zionists as refugees, the Palestinians agreed to a two state solution every time but Israel broke it. In 2015 there was an uproar when Netanyahu said there will be no Palestinian state if he is elected again.
    usa vetos Palestine from even joining UN as it claims Palestine does not exist.




    Ben Shapiro the coward lot all credibility when he shared and was exposed for sharing an AI image claiming it was an Israeli child. He then cried to his followers that he did not know it was A.I

    Vernunzio [730674]

    I see one clip of a few seconds where Shapiro objected to the way the student premised her question, and then 15 minutes of the guy on the couch (is that Smilin_Assassin?) characterizing the interaction.

    Wikipedia says that in what you call the march of return, while most of the protesters were peaceful, some directed acts of violence at Israeli soldiers. Out of tens of thousands of protesters, the fact that 223 were killed is terrible and tragic, but it hardly indicates widespread violent suppression. It indicates more that attacking armed soldiers is a bad idea.

    You and I both know that your characterization of Palestine accepting and Israel breaking a two-state solution is fantasy.

    I understand that some Palestinians have made claims for property loss resulting from the 1948 invasion of Israel by multiple countries, which Israel won and kept some territory (losing wars has consequences, ask the Ottomans), but I still hope that if the claims are valid they can be addressed fairly under the law and financially compensated, because innocent civilians do not deserve to pay the price for the war mongering of their governments, just like the innocent civilians today do not deserve to be used by Hamas as human shields.

    In the US, I do not think someone taking my property would give me the legal right to kick down the door and behead their children. If we want to make an apples to apples comparison, it would be if I lived on the northern border and the US invaded Canada and was repelled and Canada kept a part of Montana that I lived in as a result. I'd probably try to move on with my life and look to my government for help resettling, rather than beheading Canadian civilians or burning them alive. But as long as we're talking financial compensation, the Palestinian civilians should ask Hamas what has happened to those billions of dollars of financial aid that Hamas has received.

    My question to you is, do you want peace and co-existence in the region, or are you another one of the zealots who wants to eliminate Israel, seek a one-state solution, free Palestine from the river to the sea, or any of the other coded calls for genocide that Hamas makes against the Israeli people? Based on what I've seen from you so far, you're simply an extremist agitator spreading dishonest propaganda and trafficking in antisemitism. But I am willing to reconsider and even speak with you directly if you can discuss in good faith.
    I see one clip of a few seconds where Shapiro objected to the way the student premised her question, and then 15 minutes of the guy on the couch (is that Smilin_Assassin?) characterizing the interaction.
    No, that would be Mohamed Hijab. You know Ben Shapiro but you don't know Mohamed Hijab? Surprise surprise.

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    Collete [1389080]

    The Hamas terrorist billionaires who live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels as they decry Gaza poverty after profiting from misery and terror


    • Estimates suggest some of Hamas's leaders have a net worth in the billions
    • Israel and other critics accuse the group of spending money on luxuries instead of helping the people of Gaza
    And while the majority of citizens in the densely populated territory - which is a quarter of the size of Greater London - languish in poverty, a select few live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels.
    According to the Embassy of Israel in the US, three of Hamas's most senior leaders - Mousa Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - have net worths of more than $3billion each. The embassy also claims that Hamas's annual turnover is $1billion and suggests the group is second only to ISIS as the world's richest terror group.






    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (far right) is seen on a private plane with other senior Hamas officials









    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (centre) pictured in a luxury hotel with two of his sons


    In a video, the Embassy of Israel in the US accused the group of using its funds for building tunnels and arming its fighters rather than building vital infrastructure such as wells and water treatment.
    A study from 2021 suggested that about one-quarter of disease spread in the territory is caused by water pollution, and 12 per cent of deaths of young children are due to infections related to contaminated water.
    'While Gazans are deprived of basic needs, Hamas uses aid and funds to line their own pockets,' the embassy said in a post on X (formerly Twitter).
    Israel has also said Hamas continues to attack across the border without building civilian bomb shelters, knowing the Israeli military will retaliate.
    Instead, Israel says Hamas's leadership hoards its wealth, uses Palestinians as human shields and allows the population it claims to govern go hungry.
    According to German news outlet Bild, there are four Hamas officials who have grown particularly wealthy over the years - the trio of Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - as well as a fourth named Younis Qafisheh.



    Haniyeh is believed to be the richest of the three - despite once vowing to live only on olive oil and za'atar spice.
    A 61-year-old father of 13 children, Haniyeh has been in hiding since 2019, living the high-life in luxury hotels in Qatar and Turkey.
    German tabloid Bild reports that he often jets between Tehran, Istanbul, Moscow and Cairo in his private jet to meet leaders in friendly nations, and two of his sons Maaz and Abdel Salam are often seen in Instagram posts lounging on hotel beds in Istanbul or Doha.
    Maaz, who is a very wealthy real estate mogul in his own right, is known on the Gaza Strip as the 'father of houses'. When he's in Turkey, he is often seen in the company of attractive women and alcohol, despite his Islamic faith.
    His brother Abdel Salam, meanwhile, was disgraced after being found to be siphoning off money in his role as sports ambassador for Hamas's 'Shura Council' (Politburo), Bild says.
    The publication estimates his net worth to be $2.5million, while the Israeli embassy to the US suggested it was as much as $3.2billion. Another publication, i24News, wrote last month that his wealth could be as high as $5billion.
    Khaled Mashal, 67, is the former head of Hamas's political bureau.
    He fled Damascus to escape the Arab Spring in Syria and, like Haniyeh, is now living in Qatar. From there, he handles real estate and financial transactions for Hamas.
    When he fled Syria, Bild reports, he is said to have taken $1.5billion from Hamas's headquarters in Damascus. Israel's US embassy puts his net worth at $4billion.
    Mousa Abu Marzouk, 72, is another Hamas high-flyer. He is considered the second in command within the group, and is a foreign minister of sorts.
    After spending 14 years in the US - where he was in 1995 arrested for activities supporting terrorism and deported after two years - he moved to Jordan, then to Syria and then to Cairo in 2012.
    Despite his arrest, he kept hold of his money, and today Bild reported his fortune is estimated at $2billion, while the Israeli embassy to the US puts it higher, at $3billion.
    Younis Qafisheh, 67, is a fourth Hamas official highlighted by Bild for his immense wealth.








    One of Haniyeh's sons is seen posing for an Instagram photo in a luxury hotel







    Haniyeh's sons and other Hamas officials enjoy themselves in a luxury hotel

    Despite its accumulation of wealth, however, Hamas has avoided responsibility for building infrastructure and protecting the citizens of Gaza.
    In fact, just last week, Abu Marzouk declared that the political bureau of the terror group is not responsible for protecting the coastal strip's civilians amid the ongoing Israeli bombardment of the territory.
    'We built the tunnels because we have no other way of protecting ourselves from being killed in airstrikes. We are fighting from inside the tunnels,' he said.
    Passing the buck further, he added: 'Seventy-five per cent of the population of Gaza are refugees, and it is the UN's responsibility to protect them.'
    According to the Times of Israel, he then went on to claim that it was Israel's obligation to provide for the needs of Gazans under the Geneva Convention.
    While all the sources of Hamas's income may remain unknown, one thing is certain: the group will not be diverting its funds to help the civilians of Gaza, who with each passing day are slipping deeper and deeper into a humanitarian crisis.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12706715/Hamas-terrorist-billionaires-live-marble-floored-mansions.html
    How true is this?

    Some years ago, I used to read daily mail regularly but stopped because they spread hate towards Islam and their articles are not verified.

    So tell me, how true is that article? How many sources have verified it? The images you posted from the article have no source while some you haven't (posted) have Reuters watermark. I have seen the ones you shared get labeled as AI generated images on social media. Take a look at the first image. One guys face is distorted badly.
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    Shahid King Bolsen(not his birth name), an American born, former member of the Egpyptian Muslim Brotherhood, and current member of Al Qaeda.

    He converted to Islam, moved to the UAE, and attempted to run a business that failed, and after failing, became much more extreme in his views, both in terms of religion and in contempt for corporatocracy.

    He set up a social media profile to catfish what he thought were "sinners" i.e. aldulterers and killed at least one of them in a botched attempt to "shame them for their sinful ways." After this, he was deported from UAE, he sent his wife and children to Gaza to be taken care of by his connnections to Hamas, and bounced around the Middle East while gaining a social media following through his extremist rhetoric.

    He organized attacks against KFCs(yes, Kentucky Fried Chickens) in Egypt that have left people dead, kidnapped an Emirati sheikha, and who knows how many other incidents all while growing his social media following.

    So now he's basically a mouthpiece for anti-western and religious extremist terrorism.
    Very little about him from mainstream sources, but a lot from shady ones. What I can reliably find out is that he was charged with manslaughter in the UAE but was released because he wasn't allowed access to a lawyer. There is no evidence linking him to terrorist attacks, and he has denied inciting violent attacks through his writings. These allegations might be the result of his activism. Since he's walking free and even on major social media platforms, I don't think the authorities think he's an Al Qaeda member either. He's very critical of the west though.
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    Shahid King Bolsen(not his birth name), an American born, former member of the Egpyptian Muslim Brotherhood, and current member of Al Qaeda.

    He converted to Islam, moved to the UAE, and attempted to run a business that failed, and after failing, became much more extreme in his views, both in terms of religion and in contempt for corporatocracy.

    He set up a social media profile to catfish what he thought were "sinners" i.e. aldulterers and killed at least one of them in a botched attempt to "shame them for their sinful ways." After this, he was deported from UAE, he sent his wife and children to Gaza to be taken care of by his connnections to Hamas, and bounced around the Middle East while gaining a social media following through his extremist rhetoric.

    He organized attacks against KFCs(yes, Kentucky Fried Chickens) in Egypt that have left people dead, kidnapped an Emirati sheikha, and who knows how many other incidents all while growing his social media following.

    So now he's basically a mouthpiece for anti-western and religious extremist terrorism.

    Sidgar [1828507]

    Very little about him from mainstream sources, but a lot from shady ones. What I can reliably find out is that he was charged with manslaughter in the UAE but was released because he wasn't allowed access to a lawyer. There is no evidence linking him to terrorist attacks, and he has denied inciting violent attacks through his writings. These allegations might be the result of his activism. Since he's walking free and even on major social media platforms, I don't think the authorities think he's an Al Qaeda member either. He's very critical of the west though.
    Critical of the west + muslim = terrorist
    Muslim + talking against violence = hypocrite
    And therefore, Muslim = terrorist


    The only way you can be a good Muslim is by following their rules and bowing your head down to them.

    And never will the Jews or the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say, "Indeed, the guidance of Allah is the [only] guidance."
    Al Quran [2:120]

    And for the shallow thinkers out there I say; Nope. I do NOT condone any type of violence against anyone UNTIL they instigate it first. And even then, it should be proportionate.

    Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.
    Al Quran [2:190]


    My religion doesn't allow it and goes against my moral compass which I try to base on Islamic teachings.

    So by mercy from Allah, [O Muhammad], you were lenient with them. And if you had been rude [in speech] and harsh in heart, they would have disbanded from about you. So pardon them and ask forgiveness for them and consult them in the matter. And when you have decided, then rely upon Allah . Indeed, Allah loves those who rely [upon Him].
    Al Quran [3:159]

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    Collete [1389080]

    The Hamas terrorist billionaires who live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels as they decry Gaza poverty after profiting from misery and terror


    • Estimates suggest some of Hamas's leaders have a net worth in the billions
    • Israel and other critics accuse the group of spending money on luxuries instead of helping the people of Gaza
    And while the majority of citizens in the densely populated territory - which is a quarter of the size of Greater London - languish in poverty, a select few live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels.
    According to the Embassy of Israel in the US, three of Hamas's most senior leaders - Mousa Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - have net worths of more than $3billion each. The embassy also claims that Hamas's annual turnover is $1billion and suggests the group is second only to ISIS as the world's richest terror group.






    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (far right) is seen on a private plane with other senior Hamas officials









    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (centre) pictured in a luxury hotel with two of his sons


    In a video, the Embassy of Israel in the US accused the group of using its funds for building tunnels and arming its fighters rather than building vital infrastructure such as wells and water treatment.
    A study from 2021 suggested that about one-quarter of disease spread in the territory is caused by water pollution, and 12 per cent of deaths of young children are due to infections related to contaminated water.
    'While Gazans are deprived of basic needs, Hamas uses aid and funds to line their own pockets,' the embassy said in a post on X (formerly Twitter).
    Israel has also said Hamas continues to attack across the border without building civilian bomb shelters, knowing the Israeli military will retaliate.
    Instead, Israel says Hamas's leadership hoards its wealth, uses Palestinians as human shields and allows the population it claims to govern go hungry.
    According to German news outlet Bild, there are four Hamas officials who have grown particularly wealthy over the years - the trio of Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - as well as a fourth named Younis Qafisheh.



    Haniyeh is believed to be the richest of the three - despite once vowing to live only on olive oil and za'atar spice.
    A 61-year-old father of 13 children, Haniyeh has been in hiding since 2019, living the high-life in luxury hotels in Qatar and Turkey.
    German tabloid Bild reports that he often jets between Tehran, Istanbul, Moscow and Cairo in his private jet to meet leaders in friendly nations, and two of his sons Maaz and Abdel Salam are often seen in Instagram posts lounging on hotel beds in Istanbul or Doha.
    Maaz, who is a very wealthy real estate mogul in his own right, is known on the Gaza Strip as the 'father of houses'. When he's in Turkey, he is often seen in the company of attractive women and alcohol, despite his Islamic faith.
    His brother Abdel Salam, meanwhile, was disgraced after being found to be siphoning off money in his role as sports ambassador for Hamas's 'Shura Council' (Politburo), Bild says.
    The publication estimates his net worth to be $2.5million, while the Israeli embassy to the US suggested it was as much as $3.2billion. Another publication, i24News, wrote last month that his wealth could be as high as $5billion.
    Khaled Mashal, 67, is the former head of Hamas's political bureau.
    He fled Damascus to escape the Arab Spring in Syria and, like Haniyeh, is now living in Qatar. From there, he handles real estate and financial transactions for Hamas.
    When he fled Syria, Bild reports, he is said to have taken $1.5billion from Hamas's headquarters in Damascus. Israel's US embassy puts his net worth at $4billion.
    Mousa Abu Marzouk, 72, is another Hamas high-flyer. He is considered the second in command within the group, and is a foreign minister of sorts.
    After spending 14 years in the US - where he was in 1995 arrested for activities supporting terrorism and deported after two years - he moved to Jordan, then to Syria and then to Cairo in 2012.
    Despite his arrest, he kept hold of his money, and today Bild reported his fortune is estimated at $2billion, while the Israeli embassy to the US puts it higher, at $3billion.
    Younis Qafisheh, 67, is a fourth Hamas official highlighted by Bild for his immense wealth.








    One of Haniyeh's sons is seen posing for an Instagram photo in a luxury hotel







    Haniyeh's sons and other Hamas officials enjoy themselves in a luxury hotel

    Despite its accumulation of wealth, however, Hamas has avoided responsibility for building infrastructure and protecting the citizens of Gaza.
    In fact, just last week, Abu Marzouk declared that the political bureau of the terror group is not responsible for protecting the coastal strip's civilians amid the ongoing Israeli bombardment of the territory.
    'We built the tunnels because we have no other way of protecting ourselves from being killed in airstrikes. We are fighting from inside the tunnels,' he said.
    Passing the buck further, he added: 'Seventy-five per cent of the population of Gaza are refugees, and it is the UN's responsibility to protect them.'
    According to the Times of Israel, he then went on to claim that it was Israel's obligation to provide for the needs of Gazans under the Geneva Convention.
    While all the sources of Hamas's income may remain unknown, one thing is certain: the group will not be diverting its funds to help the civilians of Gaza, who with each passing day are slipping deeper and deeper into a humanitarian crisis.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12706715/Hamas-terrorist-billionaires-live-marble-floored-mansions.html

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    How true is this?

    Some years ago, I used to read daily mail regularly but stopped because they spread hate towards Islam and their articles are not verified.

    So tell me, how true is that article? How many sources have verified it? The images you posted from the article have no source while some you haven't (posted) have Reuters watermark. I have seen the ones you shared get labeled as AI generated images on social media. Take a look at the first image. One guys face is distorted badly.
    Prove it wrong then

    Kaizaki defeated the dried  up witch and got her prince in the end.

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    Collete [1389080]

    The Hamas terrorist billionaires who live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels as they decry Gaza poverty after profiting from misery and terror


    • Estimates suggest some of Hamas's leaders have a net worth in the billions
    • Israel and other critics accuse the group of spending money on luxuries instead of helping the people of Gaza
    And while the majority of citizens in the densely populated territory - which is a quarter of the size of Greater London - languish in poverty, a select few live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels.
    According to the Embassy of Israel in the US, three of Hamas's most senior leaders - Mousa Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - have net worths of more than $3billion each. The embassy also claims that Hamas's annual turnover is $1billion and suggests the group is second only to ISIS as the world's richest terror group.






    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (far right) is seen on a private plane with other senior Hamas officials









    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (centre) pictured in a luxury hotel with two of his sons


    In a video, the Embassy of Israel in the US accused the group of using its funds for building tunnels and arming its fighters rather than building vital infrastructure such as wells and water treatment.
    A study from 2021 suggested that about one-quarter of disease spread in the territory is caused by water pollution, and 12 per cent of deaths of young children are due to infections related to contaminated water.
    'While Gazans are deprived of basic needs, Hamas uses aid and funds to line their own pockets,' the embassy said in a post on X (formerly Twitter).
    Israel has also said Hamas continues to attack across the border without building civilian bomb shelters, knowing the Israeli military will retaliate.
    Instead, Israel says Hamas's leadership hoards its wealth, uses Palestinians as human shields and allows the population it claims to govern go hungry.
    According to German news outlet Bild, there are four Hamas officials who have grown particularly wealthy over the years - the trio of Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - as well as a fourth named Younis Qafisheh.



    Haniyeh is believed to be the richest of the three - despite once vowing to live only on olive oil and za'atar spice.
    A 61-year-old father of 13 children, Haniyeh has been in hiding since 2019, living the high-life in luxury hotels in Qatar and Turkey.
    German tabloid Bild reports that he often jets between Tehran, Istanbul, Moscow and Cairo in his private jet to meet leaders in friendly nations, and two of his sons Maaz and Abdel Salam are often seen in Instagram posts lounging on hotel beds in Istanbul or Doha.
    Maaz, who is a very wealthy real estate mogul in his own right, is known on the Gaza Strip as the 'father of houses'. When he's in Turkey, he is often seen in the company of attractive women and alcohol, despite his Islamic faith.
    His brother Abdel Salam, meanwhile, was disgraced after being found to be siphoning off money in his role as sports ambassador for Hamas's 'Shura Council' (Politburo), Bild says.
    The publication estimates his net worth to be $2.5million, while the Israeli embassy to the US suggested it was as much as $3.2billion. Another publication, i24News, wrote last month that his wealth could be as high as $5billion.
    Khaled Mashal, 67, is the former head of Hamas's political bureau.
    He fled Damascus to escape the Arab Spring in Syria and, like Haniyeh, is now living in Qatar. From there, he handles real estate and financial transactions for Hamas.
    When he fled Syria, Bild reports, he is said to have taken $1.5billion from Hamas's headquarters in Damascus. Israel's US embassy puts his net worth at $4billion.
    Mousa Abu Marzouk, 72, is another Hamas high-flyer. He is considered the second in command within the group, and is a foreign minister of sorts.
    After spending 14 years in the US - where he was in 1995 arrested for activities supporting terrorism and deported after two years - he moved to Jordan, then to Syria and then to Cairo in 2012.
    Despite his arrest, he kept hold of his money, and today Bild reported his fortune is estimated at $2billion, while the Israeli embassy to the US puts it higher, at $3billion.
    Younis Qafisheh, 67, is a fourth Hamas official highlighted by Bild for his immense wealth.








    One of Haniyeh's sons is seen posing for an Instagram photo in a luxury hotel







    Haniyeh's sons and other Hamas officials enjoy themselves in a luxury hotel

    Despite its accumulation of wealth, however, Hamas has avoided responsibility for building infrastructure and protecting the citizens of Gaza.
    In fact, just last week, Abu Marzouk declared that the political bureau of the terror group is not responsible for protecting the coastal strip's civilians amid the ongoing Israeli bombardment of the territory.
    'We built the tunnels because we have no other way of protecting ourselves from being killed in airstrikes. We are fighting from inside the tunnels,' he said.
    Passing the buck further, he added: 'Seventy-five per cent of the population of Gaza are refugees, and it is the UN's responsibility to protect them.'
    According to the Times of Israel, he then went on to claim that it was Israel's obligation to provide for the needs of Gazans under the Geneva Convention.
    While all the sources of Hamas's income may remain unknown, one thing is certain: the group will not be diverting its funds to help the civilians of Gaza, who with each passing day are slipping deeper and deeper into a humanitarian crisis.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12706715/Hamas-terrorist-billionaires-live-marble-floored-mansions.html

    Smilin-Assassin [965750]

    How true is this?

    Some years ago, I used to read daily mail regularly but stopped because they spread hate towards Islam and their articles are not verified.

    So tell me, how true is that article? How many sources have verified it? The images you posted from the article have no source while some you haven't (posted) have Reuters watermark. I have seen the ones you shared get labeled as AI generated images on social media. Take a look at the first image. One guys face is distorted badly.

    Collete [1389080]

    Prove it wrong then
    I am asking you how true this is and you're telling me to prove that it is untrue? what kind of logic is that?

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    Collete [1389080]

    The Hamas terrorist billionaires who live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels as they decry Gaza poverty after profiting from misery and terror


    • Estimates suggest some of Hamas's leaders have a net worth in the billions
    • Israel and other critics accuse the group of spending money on luxuries instead of helping the people of Gaza
    And while the majority of citizens in the densely populated territory - which is a quarter of the size of Greater London - languish in poverty, a select few live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels.
    According to the Embassy of Israel in the US, three of Hamas's most senior leaders - Mousa Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - have net worths of more than $3billion each. The embassy also claims that Hamas's annual turnover is $1billion and suggests the group is second only to ISIS as the world's richest terror group.






    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (far right) is seen on a private plane with other senior Hamas officials









    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (centre) pictured in a luxury hotel with two of his sons


    In a video, the Embassy of Israel in the US accused the group of using its funds for building tunnels and arming its fighters rather than building vital infrastructure such as wells and water treatment.
    A study from 2021 suggested that about one-quarter of disease spread in the territory is caused by water pollution, and 12 per cent of deaths of young children are due to infections related to contaminated water.
    'While Gazans are deprived of basic needs, Hamas uses aid and funds to line their own pockets,' the embassy said in a post on X (formerly Twitter).
    Israel has also said Hamas continues to attack across the border without building civilian bomb shelters, knowing the Israeli military will retaliate.
    Instead, Israel says Hamas's leadership hoards its wealth, uses Palestinians as human shields and allows the population it claims to govern go hungry.
    According to German news outlet Bild, there are four Hamas officials who have grown particularly wealthy over the years - the trio of Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - as well as a fourth named Younis Qafisheh.



    Haniyeh is believed to be the richest of the three - despite once vowing to live only on olive oil and za'atar spice.
    A 61-year-old father of 13 children, Haniyeh has been in hiding since 2019, living the high-life in luxury hotels in Qatar and Turkey.
    German tabloid Bild reports that he often jets between Tehran, Istanbul, Moscow and Cairo in his private jet to meet leaders in friendly nations, and two of his sons Maaz and Abdel Salam are often seen in Instagram posts lounging on hotel beds in Istanbul or Doha.
    Maaz, who is a very wealthy real estate mogul in his own right, is known on the Gaza Strip as the 'father of houses'. When he's in Turkey, he is often seen in the company of attractive women and alcohol, despite his Islamic faith.
    His brother Abdel Salam, meanwhile, was disgraced after being found to be siphoning off money in his role as sports ambassador for Hamas's 'Shura Council' (Politburo), Bild says.
    The publication estimates his net worth to be $2.5million, while the Israeli embassy to the US suggested it was as much as $3.2billion. Another publication, i24News, wrote last month that his wealth could be as high as $5billion.
    Khaled Mashal, 67, is the former head of Hamas's political bureau.
    He fled Damascus to escape the Arab Spring in Syria and, like Haniyeh, is now living in Qatar. From there, he handles real estate and financial transactions for Hamas.
    When he fled Syria, Bild reports, he is said to have taken $1.5billion from Hamas's headquarters in Damascus. Israel's US embassy puts his net worth at $4billion.
    Mousa Abu Marzouk, 72, is another Hamas high-flyer. He is considered the second in command within the group, and is a foreign minister of sorts.
    After spending 14 years in the US - where he was in 1995 arrested for activities supporting terrorism and deported after two years - he moved to Jordan, then to Syria and then to Cairo in 2012.
    Despite his arrest, he kept hold of his money, and today Bild reported his fortune is estimated at $2billion, while the Israeli embassy to the US puts it higher, at $3billion.
    Younis Qafisheh, 67, is a fourth Hamas official highlighted by Bild for his immense wealth.








    One of Haniyeh's sons is seen posing for an Instagram photo in a luxury hotel







    Haniyeh's sons and other Hamas officials enjoy themselves in a luxury hotel

    Despite its accumulation of wealth, however, Hamas has avoided responsibility for building infrastructure and protecting the citizens of Gaza.
    In fact, just last week, Abu Marzouk declared that the political bureau of the terror group is not responsible for protecting the coastal strip's civilians amid the ongoing Israeli bombardment of the territory.
    'We built the tunnels because we have no other way of protecting ourselves from being killed in airstrikes. We are fighting from inside the tunnels,' he said.
    Passing the buck further, he added: 'Seventy-five per cent of the population of Gaza are refugees, and it is the UN's responsibility to protect them.'
    According to the Times of Israel, he then went on to claim that it was Israel's obligation to provide for the needs of Gazans under the Geneva Convention.
    While all the sources of Hamas's income may remain unknown, one thing is certain: the group will not be diverting its funds to help the civilians of Gaza, who with each passing day are slipping deeper and deeper into a humanitarian crisis.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12706715/Hamas-terrorist-billionaires-live-marble-floored-mansions.html
    Are you being f king serious right now, I knew you copied and pasted web pages without verifying before but these images have been exposed as AI generated you knob.

    https://twitter.com/SaketGokhale/status/1715622040005165081?lang=en-GB

    zoom in for yourself, how does one guys hand go through a chair whilst the other has 6 fingers?
    israel has been exposed of using AI generated images to pass their lies
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    Collete [1389080]

    The Hamas terrorist billionaires who live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels as they decry Gaza poverty after profiting from misery and terror


    • Estimates suggest some of Hamas's leaders have a net worth in the billions
    • Israel and other critics accuse the group of spending money on luxuries instead of helping the people of Gaza
    And while the majority of citizens in the densely populated territory - which is a quarter of the size of Greater London - languish in poverty, a select few live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels.
    According to the Embassy of Israel in the US, three of Hamas's most senior leaders - Mousa Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - have net worths of more than $3billion each. The embassy also claims that Hamas's annual turnover is $1billion and suggests the group is second only to ISIS as the world's richest terror group.






    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (far right) is seen on a private plane with other senior Hamas officials









    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (centre) pictured in a luxury hotel with two of his sons


    In a video, the Embassy of Israel in the US accused the group of using its funds for building tunnels and arming its fighters rather than building vital infrastructure such as wells and water treatment.
    A study from 2021 suggested that about one-quarter of disease spread in the territory is caused by water pollution, and 12 per cent of deaths of young children are due to infections related to contaminated water.
    'While Gazans are deprived of basic needs, Hamas uses aid and funds to line their own pockets,' the embassy said in a post on X (formerly Twitter).
    Israel has also said Hamas continues to attack across the border without building civilian bomb shelters, knowing the Israeli military will retaliate.
    Instead, Israel says Hamas's leadership hoards its wealth, uses Palestinians as human shields and allows the population it claims to govern go hungry.
    According to German news outlet Bild, there are four Hamas officials who have grown particularly wealthy over the years - the trio of Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - as well as a fourth named Younis Qafisheh.



    Haniyeh is believed to be the richest of the three - despite once vowing to live only on olive oil and za'atar spice.
    A 61-year-old father of 13 children, Haniyeh has been in hiding since 2019, living the high-life in luxury hotels in Qatar and Turkey.
    German tabloid Bild reports that he often jets between Tehran, Istanbul, Moscow and Cairo in his private jet to meet leaders in friendly nations, and two of his sons Maaz and Abdel Salam are often seen in Instagram posts lounging on hotel beds in Istanbul or Doha.
    Maaz, who is a very wealthy real estate mogul in his own right, is known on the Gaza Strip as the 'father of houses'. When he's in Turkey, he is often seen in the company of attractive women and alcohol, despite his Islamic faith.
    His brother Abdel Salam, meanwhile, was disgraced after being found to be siphoning off money in his role as sports ambassador for Hamas's 'Shura Council' (Politburo), Bild says.
    The publication estimates his net worth to be $2.5million, while the Israeli embassy to the US suggested it was as much as $3.2billion. Another publication, i24News, wrote last month that his wealth could be as high as $5billion.
    Khaled Mashal, 67, is the former head of Hamas's political bureau.
    He fled Damascus to escape the Arab Spring in Syria and, like Haniyeh, is now living in Qatar. From there, he handles real estate and financial transactions for Hamas.
    When he fled Syria, Bild reports, he is said to have taken $1.5billion from Hamas's headquarters in Damascus. Israel's US embassy puts his net worth at $4billion.
    Mousa Abu Marzouk, 72, is another Hamas high-flyer. He is considered the second in command within the group, and is a foreign minister of sorts.
    After spending 14 years in the US - where he was in 1995 arrested for activities supporting terrorism and deported after two years - he moved to Jordan, then to Syria and then to Cairo in 2012.
    Despite his arrest, he kept hold of his money, and today Bild reported his fortune is estimated at $2billion, while the Israeli embassy to the US puts it higher, at $3billion.
    Younis Qafisheh, 67, is a fourth Hamas official highlighted by Bild for his immense wealth.








    One of Haniyeh's sons is seen posing for an Instagram photo in a luxury hotel







    Haniyeh's sons and other Hamas officials enjoy themselves in a luxury hotel

    Despite its accumulation of wealth, however, Hamas has avoided responsibility for building infrastructure and protecting the citizens of Gaza.
    In fact, just last week, Abu Marzouk declared that the political bureau of the terror group is not responsible for protecting the coastal strip's civilians amid the ongoing Israeli bombardment of the territory.
    'We built the tunnels because we have no other way of protecting ourselves from being killed in airstrikes. We are fighting from inside the tunnels,' he said.
    Passing the buck further, he added: 'Seventy-five per cent of the population of Gaza are refugees, and it is the UN's responsibility to protect them.'
    According to the Times of Israel, he then went on to claim that it was Israel's obligation to provide for the needs of Gazans under the Geneva Convention.
    While all the sources of Hamas's income may remain unknown, one thing is certain: the group will not be diverting its funds to help the civilians of Gaza, who with each passing day are slipping deeper and deeper into a humanitarian crisis.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12706715/Hamas-terrorist-billionaires-live-marble-floored-mansions.html

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    Are you being f king serious right now, I knew you copied and pasted web pages without verifying before but these images have been exposed as AI generated you knob.

    https://twitter.com/SaketGokhale/status/1715622040005165081?lang=en-GB

    zoom in for yourself, how does one guys hand go through a chair whilst the other has 6 fingers?
    israel has been exposed of using AI generated images to pass their lies
    Not just that. The 2nd picture has their shadows hanging behind them like ghosts. Not to mention the lighting on the table on the left of the first photo or the guy's face. How about the extra 2 set of feet with no body on the bed? Or the cable that somehow looks exactly the same? Or the guy on the bed who has no shadow casted on the wall but the bed has its shadow?

    I mean, come on Collete, thise are the basics. It's "in your face" kinda apparent.
    Last edited by Smilin-Assassin on 15:37:57 - 07/11/23 (1 year ago)

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    Collete [1389080]

    The Hamas terrorist billionaires who live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels as they decry Gaza poverty after profiting from misery and terror


    • Estimates suggest some of Hamas's leaders have a net worth in the billions
    • Israel and other critics accuse the group of spending money on luxuries instead of helping the people of Gaza
    And while the majority of citizens in the densely populated territory - which is a quarter of the size of Greater London - languish in poverty, a select few live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels.
    According to the Embassy of Israel in the US, three of Hamas's most senior leaders - Mousa Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - have net worths of more than $3billion each. The embassy also claims that Hamas's annual turnover is $1billion and suggests the group is second only to ISIS as the world's richest terror group.






    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (far right) is seen on a private plane with other senior Hamas officials









    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (centre) pictured in a luxury hotel with two of his sons


    In a video, the Embassy of Israel in the US accused the group of using its funds for building tunnels and arming its fighters rather than building vital infrastructure such as wells and water treatment.
    A study from 2021 suggested that about one-quarter of disease spread in the territory is caused by water pollution, and 12 per cent of deaths of young children are due to infections related to contaminated water.
    'While Gazans are deprived of basic needs, Hamas uses aid and funds to line their own pockets,' the embassy said in a post on X (formerly Twitter).
    Israel has also said Hamas continues to attack across the border without building civilian bomb shelters, knowing the Israeli military will retaliate.
    Instead, Israel says Hamas's leadership hoards its wealth, uses Palestinians as human shields and allows the population it claims to govern go hungry.
    According to German news outlet Bild, there are four Hamas officials who have grown particularly wealthy over the years - the trio of Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - as well as a fourth named Younis Qafisheh.



    Haniyeh is believed to be the richest of the three - despite once vowing to live only on olive oil and za'atar spice.
    A 61-year-old father of 13 children, Haniyeh has been in hiding since 2019, living the high-life in luxury hotels in Qatar and Turkey.
    German tabloid Bild reports that he often jets between Tehran, Istanbul, Moscow and Cairo in his private jet to meet leaders in friendly nations, and two of his sons Maaz and Abdel Salam are often seen in Instagram posts lounging on hotel beds in Istanbul or Doha.
    Maaz, who is a very wealthy real estate mogul in his own right, is known on the Gaza Strip as the 'father of houses'. When he's in Turkey, he is often seen in the company of attractive women and alcohol, despite his Islamic faith.
    His brother Abdel Salam, meanwhile, was disgraced after being found to be siphoning off money in his role as sports ambassador for Hamas's 'Shura Council' (Politburo), Bild says.
    The publication estimates his net worth to be $2.5million, while the Israeli embassy to the US suggested it was as much as $3.2billion. Another publication, i24News, wrote last month that his wealth could be as high as $5billion.
    Khaled Mashal, 67, is the former head of Hamas's political bureau.
    He fled Damascus to escape the Arab Spring in Syria and, like Haniyeh, is now living in Qatar. From there, he handles real estate and financial transactions for Hamas.
    When he fled Syria, Bild reports, he is said to have taken $1.5billion from Hamas's headquarters in Damascus. Israel's US embassy puts his net worth at $4billion.
    Mousa Abu Marzouk, 72, is another Hamas high-flyer. He is considered the second in command within the group, and is a foreign minister of sorts.
    After spending 14 years in the US - where he was in 1995 arrested for activities supporting terrorism and deported after two years - he moved to Jordan, then to Syria and then to Cairo in 2012.
    Despite his arrest, he kept hold of his money, and today Bild reported his fortune is estimated at $2billion, while the Israeli embassy to the US puts it higher, at $3billion.
    Younis Qafisheh, 67, is a fourth Hamas official highlighted by Bild for his immense wealth.








    One of Haniyeh's sons is seen posing for an Instagram photo in a luxury hotel







    Haniyeh's sons and other Hamas officials enjoy themselves in a luxury hotel

    Despite its accumulation of wealth, however, Hamas has avoided responsibility for building infrastructure and protecting the citizens of Gaza.
    In fact, just last week, Abu Marzouk declared that the political bureau of the terror group is not responsible for protecting the coastal strip's civilians amid the ongoing Israeli bombardment of the territory.
    'We built the tunnels because we have no other way of protecting ourselves from being killed in airstrikes. We are fighting from inside the tunnels,' he said.
    Passing the buck further, he added: 'Seventy-five per cent of the population of Gaza are refugees, and it is the UN's responsibility to protect them.'
    According to the Times of Israel, he then went on to claim that it was Israel's obligation to provide for the needs of Gazans under the Geneva Convention.
    While all the sources of Hamas's income may remain unknown, one thing is certain: the group will not be diverting its funds to help the civilians of Gaza, who with each passing day are slipping deeper and deeper into a humanitarian crisis.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12706715/Hamas-terrorist-billionaires-live-marble-floored-mansions.html

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    Are you being f king serious right now, I knew you copied and pasted web pages without verifying before but these images have been exposed as AI generated you knob.

    https://twitter.com/SaketGokhale/status/1715622040005165081?lang=en-GB

    zoom in for yourself, how does one guys hand go through a chair whilst the other has 6 fingers?
    israel has been exposed of using AI generated images to pass their lies

    Smilin-Assassin [965750]

    Not just that. The 2nd picture has their shadows hanging behind them like ghosts. Not to mention the lighting on the table on the left of the first photo or the guy's face. How about the extra 2 set of feet with no body on the bed? Or the cable that somehow looks exactly the same? Or the guy on the bed who has no shadow casted on the wall but the bed has its shadow?

    I mean, come on Collete, thise are the basics. It's "in your face" kinda apparent.
    For more context:

    These photos have AI flaws, but they're from AI upscaling.

    The unedited images are real photos of Hamas leader Khaled Mashal that aired on the Egyptian news channel, Sada El-Balad. They have been available on the internet since 2014.

    - https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4548202,00.html
    - https://twitter.com/Jewtastic/status/490472148050272256
    - https://twitter.com/360WiSE/status/491739256105074688?t=5WJvavK41hJp4z6fexB_PA&s=19
    - https://increditools.com/using-ai-image-upscalers-in-modern-photography/

    And to be clear, the photos in Collete's post are the originals, there's no upscaling there
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    Collete [1389080]

    The Hamas terrorist billionaires who live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels as they decry Gaza poverty after profiting from misery and terror


    • Estimates suggest some of Hamas's leaders have a net worth in the billions
    • Israel and other critics accuse the group of spending money on luxuries instead of helping the people of Gaza
    And while the majority of citizens in the densely populated territory - which is a quarter of the size of Greater London - languish in poverty, a select few live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels.
    According to the Embassy of Israel in the US, three of Hamas's most senior leaders - Mousa Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - have net worths of more than $3billion each. The embassy also claims that Hamas's annual turnover is $1billion and suggests the group is second only to ISIS as the world's richest terror group.






    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (far right) is seen on a private plane with other senior Hamas officials









    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (centre) pictured in a luxury hotel with two of his sons


    In a video, the Embassy of Israel in the US accused the group of using its funds for building tunnels and arming its fighters rather than building vital infrastructure such as wells and water treatment.
    A study from 2021 suggested that about one-quarter of disease spread in the territory is caused by water pollution, and 12 per cent of deaths of young children are due to infections related to contaminated water.
    'While Gazans are deprived of basic needs, Hamas uses aid and funds to line their own pockets,' the embassy said in a post on X (formerly Twitter).
    Israel has also said Hamas continues to attack across the border without building civilian bomb shelters, knowing the Israeli military will retaliate.
    Instead, Israel says Hamas's leadership hoards its wealth, uses Palestinians as human shields and allows the population it claims to govern go hungry.
    According to German news outlet Bild, there are four Hamas officials who have grown particularly wealthy over the years - the trio of Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - as well as a fourth named Younis Qafisheh.



    Haniyeh is believed to be the richest of the three - despite once vowing to live only on olive oil and za'atar spice.
    A 61-year-old father of 13 children, Haniyeh has been in hiding since 2019, living the high-life in luxury hotels in Qatar and Turkey.
    German tabloid Bild reports that he often jets between Tehran, Istanbul, Moscow and Cairo in his private jet to meet leaders in friendly nations, and two of his sons Maaz and Abdel Salam are often seen in Instagram posts lounging on hotel beds in Istanbul or Doha.
    Maaz, who is a very wealthy real estate mogul in his own right, is known on the Gaza Strip as the 'father of houses'. When he's in Turkey, he is often seen in the company of attractive women and alcohol, despite his Islamic faith.
    His brother Abdel Salam, meanwhile, was disgraced after being found to be siphoning off money in his role as sports ambassador for Hamas's 'Shura Council' (Politburo), Bild says.
    The publication estimates his net worth to be $2.5million, while the Israeli embassy to the US suggested it was as much as $3.2billion. Another publication, i24News, wrote last month that his wealth could be as high as $5billion.
    Khaled Mashal, 67, is the former head of Hamas's political bureau.
    He fled Damascus to escape the Arab Spring in Syria and, like Haniyeh, is now living in Qatar. From there, he handles real estate and financial transactions for Hamas.
    When he fled Syria, Bild reports, he is said to have taken $1.5billion from Hamas's headquarters in Damascus. Israel's US embassy puts his net worth at $4billion.
    Mousa Abu Marzouk, 72, is another Hamas high-flyer. He is considered the second in command within the group, and is a foreign minister of sorts.
    After spending 14 years in the US - where he was in 1995 arrested for activities supporting terrorism and deported after two years - he moved to Jordan, then to Syria and then to Cairo in 2012.
    Despite his arrest, he kept hold of his money, and today Bild reported his fortune is estimated at $2billion, while the Israeli embassy to the US puts it higher, at $3billion.
    Younis Qafisheh, 67, is a fourth Hamas official highlighted by Bild for his immense wealth.








    One of Haniyeh's sons is seen posing for an Instagram photo in a luxury hotel







    Haniyeh's sons and other Hamas officials enjoy themselves in a luxury hotel

    Despite its accumulation of wealth, however, Hamas has avoided responsibility for building infrastructure and protecting the citizens of Gaza.
    In fact, just last week, Abu Marzouk declared that the political bureau of the terror group is not responsible for protecting the coastal strip's civilians amid the ongoing Israeli bombardment of the territory.
    'We built the tunnels because we have no other way of protecting ourselves from being killed in airstrikes. We are fighting from inside the tunnels,' he said.
    Passing the buck further, he added: 'Seventy-five per cent of the population of Gaza are refugees, and it is the UN's responsibility to protect them.'
    According to the Times of Israel, he then went on to claim that it was Israel's obligation to provide for the needs of Gazans under the Geneva Convention.
    While all the sources of Hamas's income may remain unknown, one thing is certain: the group will not be diverting its funds to help the civilians of Gaza, who with each passing day are slipping deeper and deeper into a humanitarian crisis.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12706715/Hamas-terrorist-billionaires-live-marble-floored-mansions.html

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    Are you being f king serious right now, I knew you copied and pasted web pages without verifying before but these images have been exposed as AI generated you knob.

    https://twitter.com/SaketGokhale/status/1715622040005165081?lang=en-GB

    zoom in for yourself, how does one guys hand go through a chair whilst the other has 6 fingers?
    israel has been exposed of using AI generated images to pass their lies

    Smilin-Assassin [965750]

    Not just that. The 2nd picture has their shadows hanging behind them like ghosts. Not to mention the lighting on the table on the left of the first photo or the guy's face. How about the extra 2 set of feet with no body on the bed? Or the cable that somehow looks exactly the same? Or the guy on the bed who has no shadow casted on the wall but the bed has its shadow?

    I mean, come on Collete, thise are the basics. It's "in your face" kinda apparent.

    Agent8086 [573322]

    For more context:

    These photos have AI flaws, but they're from AI upscaling.

    The unedited images are real photos of Hamas leader Khaled Mashal that aired on the Egyptian news channel, Sada El-Balad. They have been available on the internet since 2014.

    - https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4548202,00.html
    - https://twitter.com/Jewtastic/status/490472148050272256
    - https://twitter.com/360WiSE/status/491739256105074688?t=5WJvavK41hJp4z6fexB_PA&s=19
    - https://increditools.com/using-ai-image-upscalers-in-modern-photography/

    And to be clear, the photos in Collete's post are the originals, there's no upscaling there
    Nope, they aren't. They are directly from daily mail and you can see the link when you open them individually.

    As for this upscalling, could be. But upscalling doesn't produce 2 legs without a body or remove shadows or people's faces.

    I am not saying that they are in the bunkers or under the hospitals and UNRWA schools or in the refugee camps fighting alongside the people of Palestine.

    What I am saying is that Israel has been using AI to further their propaganda and to show to the world a lot of things that aren't true. A lot of brainwashing going on. So whatever is "evidence" has to be credible and authentic sources should be able to confirm everything. Sadly, dailymail has been called out on its crap multiple times. So they aren't reliable. Try doing a research and citing them as a leimary source to see what I mean.

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    Collete [1389080]

    The Hamas terrorist billionaires who live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels as they decry Gaza poverty after profiting from misery and terror


    • Estimates suggest some of Hamas's leaders have a net worth in the billions
    • Israel and other critics accuse the group of spending money on luxuries instead of helping the people of Gaza
    And while the majority of citizens in the densely populated territory - which is a quarter of the size of Greater London - languish in poverty, a select few live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels.
    According to the Embassy of Israel in the US, three of Hamas's most senior leaders - Mousa Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - have net worths of more than $3billion each. The embassy also claims that Hamas's annual turnover is $1billion and suggests the group is second only to ISIS as the world's richest terror group.






    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (far right) is seen on a private plane with other senior Hamas officials









    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (centre) pictured in a luxury hotel with two of his sons


    In a video, the Embassy of Israel in the US accused the group of using its funds for building tunnels and arming its fighters rather than building vital infrastructure such as wells and water treatment.
    A study from 2021 suggested that about one-quarter of disease spread in the territory is caused by water pollution, and 12 per cent of deaths of young children are due to infections related to contaminated water.
    'While Gazans are deprived of basic needs, Hamas uses aid and funds to line their own pockets,' the embassy said in a post on X (formerly Twitter).
    Israel has also said Hamas continues to attack across the border without building civilian bomb shelters, knowing the Israeli military will retaliate.
    Instead, Israel says Hamas's leadership hoards its wealth, uses Palestinians as human shields and allows the population it claims to govern go hungry.
    According to German news outlet Bild, there are four Hamas officials who have grown particularly wealthy over the years - the trio of Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - as well as a fourth named Younis Qafisheh.



    Haniyeh is believed to be the richest of the three - despite once vowing to live only on olive oil and za'atar spice.
    A 61-year-old father of 13 children, Haniyeh has been in hiding since 2019, living the high-life in luxury hotels in Qatar and Turkey.
    German tabloid Bild reports that he often jets between Tehran, Istanbul, Moscow and Cairo in his private jet to meet leaders in friendly nations, and two of his sons Maaz and Abdel Salam are often seen in Instagram posts lounging on hotel beds in Istanbul or Doha.
    Maaz, who is a very wealthy real estate mogul in his own right, is known on the Gaza Strip as the 'father of houses'. When he's in Turkey, he is often seen in the company of attractive women and alcohol, despite his Islamic faith.
    His brother Abdel Salam, meanwhile, was disgraced after being found to be siphoning off money in his role as sports ambassador for Hamas's 'Shura Council' (Politburo), Bild says.
    The publication estimates his net worth to be $2.5million, while the Israeli embassy to the US suggested it was as much as $3.2billion. Another publication, i24News, wrote last month that his wealth could be as high as $5billion.
    Khaled Mashal, 67, is the former head of Hamas's political bureau.
    He fled Damascus to escape the Arab Spring in Syria and, like Haniyeh, is now living in Qatar. From there, he handles real estate and financial transactions for Hamas.
    When he fled Syria, Bild reports, he is said to have taken $1.5billion from Hamas's headquarters in Damascus. Israel's US embassy puts his net worth at $4billion.
    Mousa Abu Marzouk, 72, is another Hamas high-flyer. He is considered the second in command within the group, and is a foreign minister of sorts.
    After spending 14 years in the US - where he was in 1995 arrested for activities supporting terrorism and deported after two years - he moved to Jordan, then to Syria and then to Cairo in 2012.
    Despite his arrest, he kept hold of his money, and today Bild reported his fortune is estimated at $2billion, while the Israeli embassy to the US puts it higher, at $3billion.
    Younis Qafisheh, 67, is a fourth Hamas official highlighted by Bild for his immense wealth.








    One of Haniyeh's sons is seen posing for an Instagram photo in a luxury hotel







    Haniyeh's sons and other Hamas officials enjoy themselves in a luxury hotel

    Despite its accumulation of wealth, however, Hamas has avoided responsibility for building infrastructure and protecting the citizens of Gaza.
    In fact, just last week, Abu Marzouk declared that the political bureau of the terror group is not responsible for protecting the coastal strip's civilians amid the ongoing Israeli bombardment of the territory.
    'We built the tunnels because we have no other way of protecting ourselves from being killed in airstrikes. We are fighting from inside the tunnels,' he said.
    Passing the buck further, he added: 'Seventy-five per cent of the population of Gaza are refugees, and it is the UN's responsibility to protect them.'
    According to the Times of Israel, he then went on to claim that it was Israel's obligation to provide for the needs of Gazans under the Geneva Convention.
    While all the sources of Hamas's income may remain unknown, one thing is certain: the group will not be diverting its funds to help the civilians of Gaza, who with each passing day are slipping deeper and deeper into a humanitarian crisis.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12706715/Hamas-terrorist-billionaires-live-marble-floored-mansions.html

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    Are you being f king serious right now, I knew you copied and pasted web pages without verifying before but these images have been exposed as AI generated you knob.

    https://twitter.com/SaketGokhale/status/1715622040005165081?lang=en-GB

    zoom in for yourself, how does one guys hand go through a chair whilst the other has 6 fingers?
    israel has been exposed of using AI generated images to pass their lies

    Smilin-Assassin [965750]

    Not just that. The 2nd picture has their shadows hanging behind them like ghosts. Not to mention the lighting on the table on the left of the first photo or the guy's face. How about the extra 2 set of feet with no body on the bed? Or the cable that somehow looks exactly the same? Or the guy on the bed who has no shadow casted on the wall but the bed has its shadow?

    I mean, come on Collete, thise are the basics. It's "in your face" kinda apparent.

    Agent8086 [573322]

    For more context:

    These photos have AI flaws, but they're from AI upscaling.

    The unedited images are real photos of Hamas leader Khaled Mashal that aired on the Egyptian news channel, Sada El-Balad. They have been available on the internet since 2014.

    - https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4548202,00.html
    - https://twitter.com/Jewtastic/status/490472148050272256
    - https://twitter.com/360WiSE/status/491739256105074688?t=5WJvavK41hJp4z6fexB_PA&s=19
    - https://increditools.com/using-ai-image-upscalers-in-modern-photography/

    And to be clear, the photos in Collete's post are the originals, there's no upscaling there
    Upsacling doesn’t remove shadows or put 2 legs without body. Y’all believe any propoganda they throw at you.

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    Collete [1389080]

    The Hamas terrorist billionaires who live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels as they decry Gaza poverty after profiting from misery and terror


    • Estimates suggest some of Hamas's leaders have a net worth in the billions
    • Israel and other critics accuse the group of spending money on luxuries instead of helping the people of Gaza
    And while the majority of citizens in the densely populated territory - which is a quarter of the size of Greater London - languish in poverty, a select few live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels.
    According to the Embassy of Israel in the US, three of Hamas's most senior leaders - Mousa Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - have net worths of more than $3billion each. The embassy also claims that Hamas's annual turnover is $1billion and suggests the group is second only to ISIS as the world's richest terror group.






    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (far right) is seen on a private plane with other senior Hamas officials









    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (centre) pictured in a luxury hotel with two of his sons


    In a video, the Embassy of Israel in the US accused the group of using its funds for building tunnels and arming its fighters rather than building vital infrastructure such as wells and water treatment.
    A study from 2021 suggested that about one-quarter of disease spread in the territory is caused by water pollution, and 12 per cent of deaths of young children are due to infections related to contaminated water.
    'While Gazans are deprived of basic needs, Hamas uses aid and funds to line their own pockets,' the embassy said in a post on X (formerly Twitter).
    Israel has also said Hamas continues to attack across the border without building civilian bomb shelters, knowing the Israeli military will retaliate.
    Instead, Israel says Hamas's leadership hoards its wealth, uses Palestinians as human shields and allows the population it claims to govern go hungry.
    According to German news outlet Bild, there are four Hamas officials who have grown particularly wealthy over the years - the trio of Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - as well as a fourth named Younis Qafisheh.



    Haniyeh is believed to be the richest of the three - despite once vowing to live only on olive oil and za'atar spice.
    A 61-year-old father of 13 children, Haniyeh has been in hiding since 2019, living the high-life in luxury hotels in Qatar and Turkey.
    German tabloid Bild reports that he often jets between Tehran, Istanbul, Moscow and Cairo in his private jet to meet leaders in friendly nations, and two of his sons Maaz and Abdel Salam are often seen in Instagram posts lounging on hotel beds in Istanbul or Doha.
    Maaz, who is a very wealthy real estate mogul in his own right, is known on the Gaza Strip as the 'father of houses'. When he's in Turkey, he is often seen in the company of attractive women and alcohol, despite his Islamic faith.
    His brother Abdel Salam, meanwhile, was disgraced after being found to be siphoning off money in his role as sports ambassador for Hamas's 'Shura Council' (Politburo), Bild says.
    The publication estimates his net worth to be $2.5million, while the Israeli embassy to the US suggested it was as much as $3.2billion. Another publication, i24News, wrote last month that his wealth could be as high as $5billion.
    Khaled Mashal, 67, is the former head of Hamas's political bureau.
    He fled Damascus to escape the Arab Spring in Syria and, like Haniyeh, is now living in Qatar. From there, he handles real estate and financial transactions for Hamas.
    When he fled Syria, Bild reports, he is said to have taken $1.5billion from Hamas's headquarters in Damascus. Israel's US embassy puts his net worth at $4billion.
    Mousa Abu Marzouk, 72, is another Hamas high-flyer. He is considered the second in command within the group, and is a foreign minister of sorts.
    After spending 14 years in the US - where he was in 1995 arrested for activities supporting terrorism and deported after two years - he moved to Jordan, then to Syria and then to Cairo in 2012.
    Despite his arrest, he kept hold of his money, and today Bild reported his fortune is estimated at $2billion, while the Israeli embassy to the US puts it higher, at $3billion.
    Younis Qafisheh, 67, is a fourth Hamas official highlighted by Bild for his immense wealth.








    One of Haniyeh's sons is seen posing for an Instagram photo in a luxury hotel







    Haniyeh's sons and other Hamas officials enjoy themselves in a luxury hotel

    Despite its accumulation of wealth, however, Hamas has avoided responsibility for building infrastructure and protecting the citizens of Gaza.
    In fact, just last week, Abu Marzouk declared that the political bureau of the terror group is not responsible for protecting the coastal strip's civilians amid the ongoing Israeli bombardment of the territory.
    'We built the tunnels because we have no other way of protecting ourselves from being killed in airstrikes. We are fighting from inside the tunnels,' he said.
    Passing the buck further, he added: 'Seventy-five per cent of the population of Gaza are refugees, and it is the UN's responsibility to protect them.'
    According to the Times of Israel, he then went on to claim that it was Israel's obligation to provide for the needs of Gazans under the Geneva Convention.
    While all the sources of Hamas's income may remain unknown, one thing is certain: the group will not be diverting its funds to help the civilians of Gaza, who with each passing day are slipping deeper and deeper into a humanitarian crisis.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12706715/Hamas-terrorist-billionaires-live-marble-floored-mansions.html

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    Are you being f king serious right now, I knew you copied and pasted web pages without verifying before but these images have been exposed as AI generated you knob.

    https://twitter.com/SaketGokhale/status/1715622040005165081?lang=en-GB

    zoom in for yourself, how does one guys hand go through a chair whilst the other has 6 fingers?
    israel has been exposed of using AI generated images to pass their lies

    Smilin-Assassin [965750]

    Not just that. The 2nd picture has their shadows hanging behind them like ghosts. Not to mention the lighting on the table on the left of the first photo or the guy's face. How about the extra 2 set of feet with no body on the bed? Or the cable that somehow looks exactly the same? Or the guy on the bed who has no shadow casted on the wall but the bed has its shadow?

    I mean, come on Collete, thise are the basics. It's "in your face" kinda apparent.

    Agent8086 [573322]

    For more context:

    These photos have AI flaws, but they're from AI upscaling.

    The unedited images are real photos of Hamas leader Khaled Mashal that aired on the Egyptian news channel, Sada El-Balad. They have been available on the internet since 2014.

    - https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4548202,00.html
    - https://twitter.com/Jewtastic/status/490472148050272256
    - https://twitter.com/360WiSE/status/491739256105074688?t=5WJvavK41hJp4z6fexB_PA&s=19
    - https://increditools.com/using-ai-image-upscalers-in-modern-photography/

    And to be clear, the photos in Collete's post are the originals, there's no upscaling there

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    Upsacling doesn’t remove shadows or put 2 legs without body. Y’all believe any propoganda they throw at you.
    I can’t believe you’ve just typed those words.


    Absolutely no one spews more propaganda than Seba_Nile… and with a straight face. We can definitely include obvious photoshopping with the worst wordart too.

    You’re ridiculous.
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    Collete [1389080]

    The Hamas terrorist billionaires who live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels as they decry Gaza poverty after profiting from misery and terror


    • Estimates suggest some of Hamas's leaders have a net worth in the billions
    • Israel and other critics accuse the group of spending money on luxuries instead of helping the people of Gaza
    And while the majority of citizens in the densely populated territory - which is a quarter of the size of Greater London - languish in poverty, a select few live in marble-floored mansions and luxury hotels.
    According to the Embassy of Israel in the US, three of Hamas's most senior leaders - Mousa Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - have net worths of more than $3billion each. The embassy also claims that Hamas's annual turnover is $1billion and suggests the group is second only to ISIS as the world's richest terror group.






    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (far right) is seen on a private plane with other senior Hamas officials









    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh (centre) pictured in a luxury hotel with two of his sons


    In a video, the Embassy of Israel in the US accused the group of using its funds for building tunnels and arming its fighters rather than building vital infrastructure such as wells and water treatment.
    A study from 2021 suggested that about one-quarter of disease spread in the territory is caused by water pollution, and 12 per cent of deaths of young children are due to infections related to contaminated water.
    'While Gazans are deprived of basic needs, Hamas uses aid and funds to line their own pockets,' the embassy said in a post on X (formerly Twitter).
    Israel has also said Hamas continues to attack across the border without building civilian bomb shelters, knowing the Israeli military will retaliate.
    Instead, Israel says Hamas's leadership hoards its wealth, uses Palestinians as human shields and allows the population it claims to govern go hungry.
    According to German news outlet Bild, there are four Hamas officials who have grown particularly wealthy over the years - the trio of Abu Marzouk, Khaled Mashal and Ismail Haniyeh - as well as a fourth named Younis Qafisheh.



    Haniyeh is believed to be the richest of the three - despite once vowing to live only on olive oil and za'atar spice.
    A 61-year-old father of 13 children, Haniyeh has been in hiding since 2019, living the high-life in luxury hotels in Qatar and Turkey.
    German tabloid Bild reports that he often jets between Tehran, Istanbul, Moscow and Cairo in his private jet to meet leaders in friendly nations, and two of his sons Maaz and Abdel Salam are often seen in Instagram posts lounging on hotel beds in Istanbul or Doha.
    Maaz, who is a very wealthy real estate mogul in his own right, is known on the Gaza Strip as the 'father of houses'. When he's in Turkey, he is often seen in the company of attractive women and alcohol, despite his Islamic faith.
    His brother Abdel Salam, meanwhile, was disgraced after being found to be siphoning off money in his role as sports ambassador for Hamas's 'Shura Council' (Politburo), Bild says.
    The publication estimates his net worth to be $2.5million, while the Israeli embassy to the US suggested it was as much as $3.2billion. Another publication, i24News, wrote last month that his wealth could be as high as $5billion.
    Khaled Mashal, 67, is the former head of Hamas's political bureau.
    He fled Damascus to escape the Arab Spring in Syria and, like Haniyeh, is now living in Qatar. From there, he handles real estate and financial transactions for Hamas.
    When he fled Syria, Bild reports, he is said to have taken $1.5billion from Hamas's headquarters in Damascus. Israel's US embassy puts his net worth at $4billion.
    Mousa Abu Marzouk, 72, is another Hamas high-flyer. He is considered the second in command within the group, and is a foreign minister of sorts.
    After spending 14 years in the US - where he was in 1995 arrested for activities supporting terrorism and deported after two years - he moved to Jordan, then to Syria and then to Cairo in 2012.
    Despite his arrest, he kept hold of his money, and today Bild reported his fortune is estimated at $2billion, while the Israeli embassy to the US puts it higher, at $3billion.
    Younis Qafisheh, 67, is a fourth Hamas official highlighted by Bild for his immense wealth.








    One of Haniyeh's sons is seen posing for an Instagram photo in a luxury hotel







    Haniyeh's sons and other Hamas officials enjoy themselves in a luxury hotel

    Despite its accumulation of wealth, however, Hamas has avoided responsibility for building infrastructure and protecting the citizens of Gaza.
    In fact, just last week, Abu Marzouk declared that the political bureau of the terror group is not responsible for protecting the coastal strip's civilians amid the ongoing Israeli bombardment of the territory.
    'We built the tunnels because we have no other way of protecting ourselves from being killed in airstrikes. We are fighting from inside the tunnels,' he said.
    Passing the buck further, he added: 'Seventy-five per cent of the population of Gaza are refugees, and it is the UN's responsibility to protect them.'
    According to the Times of Israel, he then went on to claim that it was Israel's obligation to provide for the needs of Gazans under the Geneva Convention.
    While all the sources of Hamas's income may remain unknown, one thing is certain: the group will not be diverting its funds to help the civilians of Gaza, who with each passing day are slipping deeper and deeper into a humanitarian crisis.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12706715/Hamas-terrorist-billionaires-live-marble-floored-mansions.html

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    Are you being f king serious right now, I knew you copied and pasted web pages without verifying before but these images have been exposed as AI generated you knob.

    https://twitter.com/SaketGokhale/status/1715622040005165081?lang=en-GB

    zoom in for yourself, how does one guys hand go through a chair whilst the other has 6 fingers?
    israel has been exposed of using AI generated images to pass their lies
    You copy/paste web pages without reading too. I’ve found some of the source pages that you’ve taken out or context (like the Wikipedia timeline of Jerusalem page).


    Pot, meet kettle.


    Again, you are ridiculous.
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    Vernunzio [730674]

    Yes, I do want the well-intentioned but misguided people supporting Hamas to realize what it is they are supporting. Thank you for that.

    You want me to aim my argument at you "like a man?"

    A man is capable of reflecting on his own preconceptions and considering he may have been wrong about some things. A man is capable of seeing the humanity in the other side. A man does not cheer the death of civilians or support those who use civilians as human shields. A man does not advocate genocide as the way toward "peace." A man can see that both sides of this endless conflict have watered the land with enough blood, and it is time to fight for peace, and to oust Hamas and Netanyahu, and do our best to build bridges between people as all of our prophets and godly rabbis and imams would have wanted us to do. Yes, it may seem impossible, it certainly will not be easy. But a man is not afraid of something seeming impossible. Can also substitute human for man in all of those sentences, as it applies to women as well.

    You are not a man.

    You are a coward, you couch Jihadist.

    Everyone can see through your delusional ranting and raving, and lies and contradictions. It's not worth reading your vile posts a second time to quote them.

    Smilin-Assassin [965750]

    "thumbs up emoji"

    You win. And the saddest reply ever award goes to ..... drum roll .... vernunzio!!

    Couch jihadist out "peace emoji"

    Vernunzio [730674]

    I say peace, stop killing, and you call it saddest reply ever.


    Everyone sees through you. No reasoning with couch jihadists.

    Smilin-Assassin [965750]

    Yeah. I love killing. That's why you can see me calling "off with their heads" on every post and spreading hate towards Hamas because they call for peace like you and let the POWs go. What a sad bunch of ****s they are.

    That's why I am supporting Israel dropping more bombs on one of the most densely populated cities in the world. Last I checked, it was 25k tons and counting. 30+ days of bombing, 10k civilians killed. 4k of that are children. some 2.2k under rubble which of 1.2k is children.

    Fully in love with killing.

    Bless your intelligence, Vernunzio. Bless your intelligence.

    Vernunzio [730674]

    You've been consistently posting about killing one side. Backtrack and gaslight though, that's what you're good at.

    But if even a few people see you revealing your true intentions, it will be worth the time.

    Civilian casualties are a tragedy. But let us not lose sight that this is a war that Hamas started, Hamas intentionally imbeds itself in the civilian population, and Hamas actively prevented civilians from leaving Gaza when Israel tried to get them to evacuate.

    It's a tragedy and Israel is not blameless. But this is exactly what Hamas wants. The unwilling martyrs, as you've accidentally revealed is how you think of them, are a price that Hamas is happy to pay.

    Smilin-Assassin [965750]

    Please quote my consistent posts about killing one side and prove to everyone on Torn that I am pro-genocide. Please, I am begging.

    Yes, it will be worth the time. Now Please quote all I said about killing and committing genocide against the zionists.

    This is a war that Hamas started only if you go back 31 days. Go further back. Go to to West Bank where there is no Hamas. Your facts are just as messed up as you are.

    How do you know what Hamas exactly wants? Based on their actions? If we use that same method, what do you think the zionists want?

    If Hamas wants Palestinians to die, why don't they do it without getting the zionists involved? And why are the zionists involved in killing the Palestinians?

    On another irrelevant note; do you think up all this shit because think out of your ass? I hear laxatives help clear up and ease your bowel movements. Try it. Maybe your thinking out of the ass won't be this shitty then.
    You spoke positively of the death of Jewish civilians because you want dead Jews, and you spoke positively of the death of Palestinian civilians because you want more martyrs to justify trying to kill more Jews, all while bragging about winning a war that you are clearly not winning. I'm not going to read your word vomit a second time in order to quote it, or so that you can say the words don't mean what they obviously mean.

    31 days is nonsense. The conflict has tragically been perpetuated by cynical and exploitative leaders on both sides, and by an endless cycle of vengeance, but it started over 75 years ago when Israel committed the sin in your eyes of daring to exist.

    Hamas and its supporters have grown so complacent in their lies being believed that you have just asked me to prove something that is in Hamas's charter.

    Have a nice day and I hope all of us can find peace.

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