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    Posted on 18:26:24 - 10/11/23 (1 year ago)
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    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    ‘I didn’t have the history’ beech go read the bible. Go read any history book, world map or atlas. You’ll see there existed Palestine but not Israel.




























    If you ask a Native American or Palestinian about their culture they will be able to show you traditions and clothes of their people, if you ask an America or Israeli they won’t as they are colonisers living on land they stole from someone else. Black trench coat and hat in the desert? Lmao

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    For someone who claims to be some kind of master historian (“I know what I’m talking about because I minored in history!”), your ability to examine primary sources and derive meaning from them is extremely poor. Allow me to share with everyone reading, an example of the many dishonest posts that you make, and how it is ridiculous propaganda.

    I’ve reposted your picture so you can’t do another one of your sneaky gaslighting edits when you get caught.


    In 1944 (the date in the propaganda text in your picture) that airport was RAF Station Lydda. It didn’t become Lod until later.

    It was not renamed to Lod Airport (a Hebrew name) by the Israelis until 1948. It was renamed again to Ben Gurion in 1973.


    The fact that we can see “WELCOME TO LOD AIRPORT” painted on the airport means that the actual photo was taken between 1948 and 1973.


    It was certainly NOT “Palestinian airport 1944”.

    I guess when it comes to history your motto is “if I don’t steal it, someone else gonna”.


    Here is the original photo before some dumbass pasted easily refuted bullshit over the top of it.


    #FactChecked

    Seba_Nile [1782274]





    I like how you totally ignored the video and other stuff that showed no Israel before 1948 massacre genocide and settler colonialism which is now an apartheid state.


    Asbestos [2605613]

    Sebas Propaganda Technique 3A: When caught in a lie, ignore and deflect. Do not ever admit being wrong and pasting bullshit from a propaganda site.

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    Lod was a city in Palestine. Lod underwent a major change in its population in the mid-20th century. Exclusively Palestinian Arab in 1947, Lod was part of the area designated for an Arab state in the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine; however, in July 1948, the city was occupied by the IDF, and most of its Arab inhabitants were expelled in the 1948 Palestinian expulsion from Lydda and Ramle.

    you didn’t dispel or prove anything. It was a Palestinian airport.

    Asbestos [2605613]

    Ridiculous. It was a British air station. But more importantly, we can confirm with certainty that the stuff you or some propagandist pasted over the picture (look: 1944) is complete crap, because it wouldn’t have said Welcome to Lod at all until 1948.


    It was built British, stayed British, and then was disputed from April 1948 when the British gave it up, until July 1948, ending up under Israeli control.


    The city of Lod was never a city in Palestine. If you were going to make that claim, you would have called it by its Arab name “Lydda” instead of its Hebrew name “Lod”

    ”Welcome to Lod” on the side of the building speaks absolute volumes to the lies you tell. You’ve been absolutely caught in your nonsense on this one.


    Sebas Propaganda Technique 3B: When pressed, continue to deflect. Double down on the lies. Gaslight. Do not ever admit being wrong and pasting bullshit from a propaganda site.
    Who were there before the British mandate/ occupation, it was Palestinian land.

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    Posted on 19:04:31 - 10/11/23 (1 year ago)
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    For someone who claims to be some kind of master historian (“I know what I’m talking about because I minored in history!”), your ability to examine primary sources and derive meaning from them is extremely poor. Allow me to share with everyone reading, an example of the many dishonest posts that you make, and how it is ridiculous propaganda.

    I’ve reposted your picture so you can’t do another one of your sneaky gaslighting edits when you get caught.


    In 1944 (the date in the propaganda text in your picture) that airport was RAF Station Lydda. It didn’t become Lod until later.

    It was not renamed to Lod Airport (a Hebrew name) by the Israelis until 1948. It was renamed again to Ben Gurion in 1973.


    The fact that we can see “WELCOME TO LOD AIRPORT” painted on the airport means that the actual photo was taken between 1948 and 1973.


    It was certainly NOT “Palestinian airport 1944”.

    I guess when it comes to history your motto is “if I don’t steal it, someone else gonna”.


    Here is the original photo before some dumbass pasted easily refuted bullshit over the top of it.


    #FactChecked

    Seba_Nile [1782274]





    I like how you totally ignored the video and other stuff that showed no Israel before 1948 massacre genocide and settler colonialism which is now an apartheid state.


    Asbestos [2605613]

    Sebas Propaganda Technique 3A: When caught in a lie, ignore and deflect. Do not ever admit being wrong and pasting bullshit from a propaganda site.

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    Lod was a city in Palestine. Lod underwent a major change in its population in the mid-20th century. Exclusively Palestinian Arab in 1947, Lod was part of the area designated for an Arab state in the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine; however, in July 1948, the city was occupied by the IDF, and most of its Arab inhabitants were expelled in the 1948 Palestinian expulsion from Lydda and Ramle.

    you didn’t dispel or prove anything. It was a Palestinian airport.

    Asbestos [2605613]

    Ridiculous. It was a British air station. But more importantly, we can confirm with certainty that the stuff you or some propagandist pasted over the picture (look: 1944) is complete crap, because it wouldn’t have said Welcome to Lod at all until 1948.


    It was built British, stayed British, and then was disputed from April 1948 when the British gave it up, until July 1948, ending up under Israeli control.


    The city of Lod was never a city in Palestine. If you were going to make that claim, you would have called it by its Arab name “Lydda” instead of its Hebrew name “Lod”

    ”Welcome to Lod” on the side of the building speaks absolute volumes to the lies you tell. You’ve been absolutely caught in your nonsense on this one.


    Sebas Propaganda Technique 3B: When pressed, continue to deflect. Double down on the lies. Gaslight. Do not ever admit being wrong and pasting bullshit from a propaganda site.

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    Who were there before the British mandate/ occupation, it was Palestinian land.
    Oh good lord. You know what wasn’t there before the British? THE AIRPORT, YOU NUMPTY! When it comes to the veracity of your airport story, no point in time prior to the existence of the airport is relevant.

    You’ve been caught cold on this one. You are making an overt and deliberate attempt to be dishonest and we all see it. You are not a historian by any stretch of the imagination. You cherry pick a few facts out of context, ignore huge ones that don’t suit your purposes, and make up/repeat a bunch of filler material. That’s pretty much what a propagandist does. You have no credibility. You really are just a sad cut and paste Hamas operative.



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    Posted on 22:04:21 - 10/11/23 (1 year ago)
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    It’s like the worst cut and paste too. It’s loaded full of weird propaganda that conflicts with itself. This hamster is no more a credentialed Muslim or Palestinian historical scholar than Britney Spears.


    Repeating your lines from a Hamas Telegram and having a hand up Larten_Crepsley’s ass doesn’t make one an important puppet master. It just means a shitty hand and an anal prolapse.

    Larten_Crepsley [1569797]

    I actually feel sorry for you. Bare the chains around your neck proudly. Your masters will be here for an eternity.

    Asbestos [2605613]

    lol. Crapsley going all in on glorifying slavery, between his poorly imagined meme (or probable sexual fantasy) and his “slave trader” faction title. I can’t make the guy look any worse than he makes himself look. This one is almost funnier than when he posted his pig pic from the mysterious stranger.


    It’s 2023. No one thinks slavery is cool.


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    You have a profile picture of a cowboy shooting an Arab point blank. All this bullshit and facade of you hiding behind ethics etc, we see through it. You’re a bigot and you’re racist.

    Asbestos [2605613]

    Oh my. Collete came with facts and you just came to the party making up mindless propaganda.. again.

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    For those of you that can read Hebrew, this Israeli shell reads ‘may it explode on innocent people’




    Also the same Collete you used to whine about on discord?
    Asbestos and myself are buddies now hes a person you can have a reasonable conversation with .

    Kaizaki defeated the dried  up witch and got her prince in the end.

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    Posted on 22:11:50 - 10/11/23 (1 year ago)
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    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    ‘I didn’t have the history’ beech go read the bible. Go read any history book, world map or atlas. You’ll see there existed Palestine but not Israel.




























    If you ask a Native American or Palestinian about their culture they will be able to show you traditions and clothes of their people, if you ask an America or Israeli they won’t as they are colonisers living on land they stole from someone else. Black trench coat and hat in the desert? Lmao
    I picked one of your pics at random and guess what this is from 1936 and the boy second from the left doesnt dress arabic hmmm











    Kaizaki defeated the dried  up witch and got her prince in the end.

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    Posted on 22:15:44 - 10/11/23 (1 year ago)
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    I picked one of your pics at random and guess what this is from 1936 and the boy second from the left doesnt dress arabic hmmm











    I didn’t even notice him. I was distracted by the melons on that chick in the middle.
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    Posted on 22:18:30 - 10/11/23 (1 year ago)
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    o my its the grand Mufti In 1921, Herbert Samuel, the British High Commissioner appointed him Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, a position they made up






    him with his boyfriend


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    Posted on 22:23:31 - 10/11/23 (1 year ago)
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    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    ‘I didn’t have the history’ beech go read the bible. Go read any history book, world map or atlas. You’ll see there existed Palestine but not Israel.




























    If you ask a Native American or Palestinian about their culture they will be able to show you traditions and clothes of their people, if you ask an America or Israeli they won’t as they are colonisers living on land they stole from someone else. Black trench coat and hat in the desert? Lmao

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    I picked one of your pics at random and guess what this is from 1936 and the boy second from the left doesnt dress arabic hmmm











    If anyone wants the original photo, it’s just a stock photo. You can get it here.


    It doesn’t seem to have any tie to the Israel area. It’s just a random Middle East location.
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    Posted on 22:24:42 - 10/11/23 (1 year ago)
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    In 1924 this was the Birzeit School for Girls it became a college in 1953 where do you find this photos clearly the person labeling them has little knowledge of history

    In December 2021, a series of violent incidents between students of rival Palestinian factions occurred in the campus.[14] On 14 December 2021, Israeli soldiers and Shin Bet arrested a number of students allegedly involved with a Hamas cell, and accused of funneling money and organizing rallies in support of the organization, as well as incitement.[15] The same day, hundreds of students took part in a Hamas parade on campus to mark the movement's founding anniversary.[14][15][16] Some students also attacked the university's security guards.





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    Posted on 22:27:06 - 10/11/23 (1 year ago)
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    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    ‘I didn’t have the history’ beech go read the bible. Go read any history book, world map or atlas. You’ll see there existed Palestine but not Israel.




























    If you ask a Native American or Palestinian about their culture they will be able to show you traditions and clothes of their people, if you ask an America or Israeli they won’t as they are colonisers living on land they stole from someone else. Black trench coat and hat in the desert? Lmao

    Collete [1389080]

    I picked one of your pics at random and guess what this is from 1936 and the boy second from the left doesnt dress arabic hmmm











    Asbestos [2605613]

    If anyone wants the original photo, it’s just a stock photo. You can get it here.


    It doesn’t seem to have any tie to the Israel area. It’s just a random Middle East location.
    https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2019696817/

    • Title: Costumes, characters, etc. Watermelon market
    • Creator(s): American Colony (Jerusalem). Photo Department, photographer
    • Date Created/Published: [approximately 1900 to 1920]
    • Medium: 1 negative : glass, stereograph, dry plate ; 5 x 7 in.
    • Reproduction Number: LC-DIG-matpc-05613 (digital file from original)LC-M3201-B214 (b&w film copy negative)
    • Rights Advisory: No known restrictions on publication. For information see: "G. Eric and Edith Matson Photograph Collection,"(https://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/res.258.mats)
    • Call Number: LC-M32- B-214 [P&P]
    • Repository: Library of Congress Prints and Photographs Division Washington, D.C. 20540 USA https://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.print
    • Notes:
      • Title from: Catalogue of photographs & lantern slides ... [1936?]
      • Date from Matson LOT cards.
      • General information about the G. Eric and Edith Matson Photograph Collection is available at: https://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.matpc
      • Gift; Episcopal Home; 1978.
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    Posted on 22:35:56 - 10/11/23 (1 year ago)
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    ‘I didn’t have the history’ beech go read the bible. Go read any history book, world map or atlas. You’ll see there existed Palestine but not Israel.




























    If you ask a Native American or Palestinian about their culture they will be able to show you traditions and clothes of their people, if you ask an America or Israeli they won’t as they are colonisers living on land they stole from someone else. Black trench coat and hat in the desert? Lmao

    Asbestos [2605613]

    For someone who claims to be some kind of master historian (“I know what I’m talking about because I minored in history!”), your ability to examine primary sources and derive meaning from them is extremely poor. Allow me to share with everyone reading, an example of the many dishonest posts that you make, and how it is ridiculous propaganda.

    I’ve reposted your picture so you can’t do another one of your sneaky gaslighting edits when you get caught.


    In 1944 (the date in the propaganda text in your picture) that airport was RAF Station Lydda. It didn’t become Lod until later.

    It was not renamed to Lod Airport (a Hebrew name) by the Israelis until 1948. It was renamed again to Ben Gurion in 1973.


    The fact that we can see “WELCOME TO LOD AIRPORT” painted on the airport means that the actual photo was taken between 1948 and 1973.


    It was certainly NOT “Palestinian airport 1944”.

    I guess when it comes to history your motto is “if I don’t steal it, someone else gonna”.


    Here is the original photo before some dumbass pasted easily refuted bullshit over the top of it.


    #FactChecked
    Damn you caught seba lying again does he ever fact check the pics he gets from his Jihadi website

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    Posted on 22:49:17 - 10/11/23 (1 year ago)
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    O my it seems the port was a idea of a jew and the british built it Seba confirmed as the village idiot
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_of_Haifa



    Until the beginning of the 20th century, Acre served as the main port for the region. However, the port eventually became clogged with silt, and was unable to accommodate large ships. The first person to comprehend the tremendous possibilities of a port in Haifa was Theodor Herzl, the father of Political Zionism, who in 1902 wrote a prophetic description of the town in his book AltNeuland. Construction of the port began in 1922, and it was officially opened on 31 October 1933 by Lieut. Gen. Sir Arthur Wauchope, the British High Commissioner for Palestine.[2] The port allowed Haifa to blossom, and in 1936, the city had over 100,000 inhabitants. The port was a gateway for thousands of immigrants to Israel after the Second World War.[3] With Israel's western borders the Mediterraneanand the eastern borders sealed by its Arab neighbors, Haifa served as a crucial gateway to the rest of the world, and helped Israel develop into an economic power. Today the port brings both passenger and cargo traffic to a bustling metropolis, much as Theodor Herzl predicted over a century ago.





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    Posted on 23:10:56 - 10/11/23 (1 year ago)
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    Notice the fez hats its ottoman era not palestinian




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    Posted on 23:28:16 - 10/11/23 (1 year ago)
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    The Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj al-Amin al-Husseini, will never be accused of loving Jews. In fact, 70 years ago today, the Mufti, who was Yasser Arafat’s uncle, met with Adolph Hitler in Berlinto discuss the ‘final solution’ to the ‘Jewish problem.

    In 1937, the Mufti testified before the Peel Commission, which was looking into the causes of unrest between Jews and Arabs in what was then known as ‘Palestine.’ The Mufti made a stunning admission: Most of the land that belonged to the Jews, which we are constantly accused of ‘stealing,’ had actually been purchased by the Jews from the Arabs. And the Arabs were what we lawyers call willing sellers.

    The Peel Commission report had some very salutary things to say about the Zionists and their impact on the land and on Arab society and economy. One of the most important for debunking Arab anti-Israel accusations is:
    “The Arab population shows a remarkable increase since 1920, and it has had some share in the increased prosperity of Palestine. Many Arab landowners have benefited from the sale of land and the profitable investment of the purchase money. The fellaheen (Arab peasants) are better off on the whole than they were in 1920. This Arab progress has been partly due to the import of Jewish capital into Palestine and other factors associated with the growth of the (Jewish) National Home. In particular, the Arabs have benefited from social services which could not have been provided on the existing scale without the revenue obtained from the Jews…Much of the land (being farmed by the Jews) now carrying orange groves was sand dunes or swamp and uncultivated when it was purchased…There was at the time of the earlier sales little evidence that the owners possessed either the resources or training needed to develop the land.” The land shortage decried by the Arabs “…was due less to the amount of land acquired by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population.” (Chapter V in the report).
    El-Husseini’s interview on January 12, 1937 was preserved in the Commission’s notes and referenced, although not published, in the full report. It has been summarized by a number of scholars, including Kenneth Stein, The Land Question in Palestine 1917-1939 (Univ. of North Carolina Press, 2009) and Howard M. Sachar, A History of Israel from the Rise of Zionism to our Time (Alfred A. Knopf, 1976); and a detailed analysis with quotations from the interview can be found in Aaron Kleiman’s The Palestine Royal Commission, 1937 (Garland Publications, 1987, pp. 298ff.).
    The selections from the interview presented below can be found on line here and here. Sir Laurie Hammond, a member of the Peel Commission, interviewed the Mufti about his insistence to the Commission that Zionists were stealing Arab land and driving peasants into homelessness. He spoke through an interpreter.
    SIR L. HAMMOND: Would you give me the figures again for the land. I want to know how much land was held by the Jews before the Occupation.

    MUFTI: At the time of the Occupation the Jews held about 100,000 dunams.

    SIR L. HAMMOND: What year?

    MUFTI: At the date of the British Occupation.

    SIR L. HAMMOND: And now they hold how much?

    MUFTI: About 1,500,000 dunams: 1,200,000 dunams already registered in the name of the Jewish holders, but there are 300,000 dunams which are the subject of written agreements, and which have not yet been registered in the Land Registry. That does not, of course, include the land which was assigned, about 100,000 dunams.

    SIR L. HAMMOND: What 100,000 dunams was assigned? Is that not included in, the 1,200,000 dunams? The point is this. He says that in 1920 at the time of the Occupation, the Jews only held 100,000 dunams, is that so? I asked the figures from the Land Registry, how much land the Jews owned at the time of the Occupation. Would he be surprised to hear that the figure is not 100,000 but 650,000 dunams?

    MUFTI: It may be that the difference was due to the fact that many lands were bought by contract which were not registered.

    SIR L. HAMMOND: There is a lot of difference between 100,000 and 650,000.

    MUFTI: In one case they sold about 400,000 dunams in one lot.

    SIR L. HAMMOND: Who? An Arab?

    MUFTI: Sarsuk. An Arab of Beyrouth.

    SIR L. HAMMOND: His Eminence gave us a picture of the Arabs being evicted from their land and villages being wiped out. What I want to know is, did the Government of Palestine, the Administration, acquire the land and then hand it over to the Jews?


    MUFTI: In most cases the lands were acquired.
    SIR L. HAMMOND: I mean forcibly acquired-compulsory acquisition as land would be acquired for public purposes? < MUFTI: No, it wasn’t.
    SIR L. HAMMOND: Not taken by compulsory acquisition?
    MUFTI: No.
    SIR L. HAMMOND: But these lands amounting to some 700,000 dunams were actually sold?
    MUFTI: Yes, they were sold, but the country was placed in such conditions as would facilitate such purchases.
    SIR I HAMMOND: I don’t quite understand what you mean by that. They were sold. Who sold them?
    MUFTI: Land owners.
    SIR I HAMMOND: Arabs?
    MUFTI: In most cases they were Arabs.
    SIR L. HAMMOND: Was any compulsion put on them to sell? If so, by whom?
    MUFTI: As in other countries, there are people who by force of circumstances, economic forces, sell their land.
    SIR L. HAMMOND: Is that all he said?
    MUFTI: A large part of these lands belong to absentee landlords who sold the land over the heads of their tenants, who were forcibly evicted. The majority of these landlords were absentees who sold their land over the heads of their tenants. Not Palestinians but Lebanese.
    SIR L. HAMMOND: Is His Eminence in a position to give the Commission a list of the people, the Arabs who have sold lands, apart from those absentee landlords?
    MUFTI: It is possible for me to supply such a list.
    SIR L. HAMMOND: I ask him now this: does he think that as compared with the standard of life under the Turkish rule the position of the fellahin in the villages has improved or deteriorated?
    MUFTI: Generally speaking I think their situation has got worse.
    SIR L. HAMMOND: Is taxation heavier or lighter?
    MUFTI: Taxation was much heavier then, but now there are additional burdens.
    SIR L. HAMMOND: I am asking him if it is now, the present day, as we are sitting together here, is it a fact that the fellahin has a much lighter tax than he had under the Turkish rule? Or is he taxed more heavily?
    MUFTI: The present taxation is lighter, but the Arabs nevertheless have now other taxation, for instance, customs.

    LORD PEEL: And the condition of the fellahin as regards, for example, education. Are there more schools or fewer schools now?
    MUFTI: They may have more schools, comparatively, but at the same time there has been an increase in their numbers.
    The Hajj Amin el-Husseini, the intractable opponent of Zionism, a Jew-hater on par with Hitler, admitted under questioning that no Arab land was stolen; no Arabs were wiped out, no villages destroyed. Rather, the Jews bought hundreds of thousands of dunam (about ¼ of an acre) of land from willing sellers, often from absentee Arab landowners. Moreover, thanks in part to the Zionists and the British, the quality of life for Palestine’s Arab peasantry was vastly improved, with less taxation, more schools, and an increase in Arab population.
    The next time someone spouts the Arab line about how Zionists came and stole Arab land and drove Arabs out, just quote the Mufti.

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    Posted on 00:44:28 - 11/11/23 (1 year ago)
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    Notice the fez hats its ottoman era not palestinian




    It might be from a movie. The original picture is in color.


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    Lmao seba absolutely wreaked go crawl back in your Jihad tunnel like rats
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    Asbestos [2605613]

    For someone who claims to be some kind of master historian (“I know what I’m talking about because I minored in history!”), your ability to examine primary sources and derive meaning from them is extremely poor. Allow me to share with everyone reading, an example of the many dishonest posts that you make, and how it is ridiculous propaganda.

    I’ve reposted your picture so you can’t do another one of your sneaky gaslighting edits when you get caught.


    In 1944 (the date in the propaganda text in your picture) that airport was RAF Station Lydda. It didn’t become Lod until later.

    It was not renamed to Lod Airport (a Hebrew name) by the Israelis until 1948. It was renamed again to Ben Gurion in 1973.


    The fact that we can see “WELCOME TO LOD AIRPORT” painted on the airport means that the actual photo was taken between 1948 and 1973.


    It was certainly NOT “Palestinian airport 1944”.

    I guess when it comes to history your motto is “if I don’t steal it, someone else gonna”.


    Here is the original photo before some dumbass pasted easily refuted bullshit over the top of it.


    #FactChecked

    Seba_Nile [1782274]





    I like how you totally ignored the video and other stuff that showed no Israel before 1948 massacre genocide and settler colonialism which is now an apartheid state.


    Asbestos [2605613]

    Sebas Propaganda Technique 3A: When caught in a lie, ignore and deflect. Do not ever admit being wrong and pasting bullshit from a propaganda site.

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    Lod was a city in Palestine. Lod underwent a major change in its population in the mid-20th century. Exclusively Palestinian Arab in 1947, Lod was part of the area designated for an Arab state in the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine; however, in July 1948, the city was occupied by the IDF, and most of its Arab inhabitants were expelled in the 1948 Palestinian expulsion from Lydda and Ramle.

    you didn’t dispel or prove anything. It was a Palestinian airport.

    Asbestos [2605613]

    Ridiculous. It was a British air station. But more importantly, we can confirm with certainty that the stuff you or some propagandist pasted over the picture (look: 1944) is complete crap, because it wouldn’t have said Welcome to Lod at all until 1948.


    It was built British, stayed British, and then was disputed from April 1948 when the British gave it up, until July 1948, ending up under Israeli control.


    The city of Lod was never a city in Palestine. If you were going to make that claim, you would have called it by its Arab name “Lydda” instead of its Hebrew name “Lod”

    ”Welcome to Lod” on the side of the building speaks absolute volumes to the lies you tell. You’ve been absolutely caught in your nonsense on this one.


    Sebas Propaganda Technique 3B: When pressed, continue to deflect. Double down on the lies. Gaslight. Do not ever admit being wrong and pasting bullshit from a propaganda site.

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    Who were there before the British mandate/ occupation, it was Palestinian land.
    ottoman geez you know little of history dude

    Kaizaki defeated the dried  up witch and got her prince in the end.

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    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    ‘I didn’t have the history’ beech go read the bible. Go read any history book, world map or atlas. You’ll see there existed Palestine but not Israel.




























    If you ask a Native American or Palestinian about their culture they will be able to show you traditions and clothes of their people, if you ask an America or Israeli they won’t as they are colonisers living on land they stole from someone else. Black trench coat and hat in the desert? Lmao

    Kasto [2151656]

    As you can see from the image below, everything was conquered by the Great Alexander. Can we agree that everything belongs to Greece? We liberated the whole are from Persian rule. So we own everything. Including Turkey (Sorry).

    With your logic, Greece should go to war with Albania because there was no Albania before, it was created with a British promise. Or go to war with Turkey to retake constantinople.

    Or, hear me out, we can learn to live together in harmony. Have you tried that?

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    If Israel can claim Palestine, the Arabs can claim Spain, the Italians can claim England. That’s what I’m saying Israel has no right to claim a land that’s not there’s, Palestine has always been there and will always be there.

    exactly what I’m saying. Under Islamic rule for the past 1400 years, Muslims, Christians and Jews lived together peacefully here. Infact it was the Muslims who invited Jewish families back back in the later part of the 5th century and again after the crusades. Again the Palestinians let them in here when Christian- secular euorope would oppress them, yet this time they took everything from Palestinians and didn’t want to coexist peacefully.

    don’t tell me to live peacefully with someone who killed my family, steals my home, land, wealth, business and agriculture and tries to distort my history.
    lmfao

    Kaizaki defeated the dried  up witch and got her prince in the end.

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    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    ‘I didn’t have the history’ beech go read the bible. Go read any history book, world map or atlas. You’ll see there existed Palestine but not Israel.




























    If you ask a Native American or Palestinian about their culture they will be able to show you traditions and clothes of their people, if you ask an America or Israeli they won’t as they are colonisers living on land they stole from someone else. Black trench coat and hat in the desert? Lmao

    Asbestos [2605613]

    For someone who claims to be some kind of master historian (“I know what I’m talking about because I minored in history!”), your ability to examine primary sources and derive meaning from them is extremely poor. Allow me to share with everyone reading, an example of the many dishonest posts that you make, and how it is ridiculous propaganda.

    I’ve reposted your picture so you can’t do another one of your sneaky gaslighting edits when you get caught.


    In 1944 (the date in the propaganda text in your picture) that airport was RAF Station Lydda. It didn’t become Lod until later.

    It was not renamed to Lod Airport (a Hebrew name) by the Israelis until 1948. It was renamed again to Ben Gurion in 1973.


    The fact that we can see “WELCOME TO LOD AIRPORT” painted on the airport means that the actual photo was taken between 1948 and 1973.


    It was certainly NOT “Palestinian airport 1944”.

    I guess when it comes to history your motto is “if I don’t steal it, someone else gonna”.


    Here is the original photo before some dumbass pasted easily refuted bullshit over the top of it.


    #FactChecked

    Seba_Nile [1782274]





    I like how you totally ignored the video and other stuff that showed no Israel before 1948 massacre genocide and settler colonialism which is now an apartheid state.


    ‘If Not For Israel, I Probably Would Be Illiterate, Penniless, Herding Sheep’: Young Israeli Arab Woman Denounces Israel-Haters Who Call It An Apartheid State


    “It just doesn’t match the truth; it doesn’t match the reality. They need to go and read the facts."


    A young Israeli Arab woman fiercely slammed the canard used by anti-Semites that Israel is an apartheid state, pointing out that Israel gave her an opportunity to become an electrical engineer with a master’s degree from Stanford University rather than remaining penniless and illiterate like her mother.

    “Israel gave us everything that it could give us even though we were Arabs and they’re calling Israel an apartheid,” she noted of Israel’s critics. “They’re calling Israel, making ethnic genocide. And this point is actually like puzzling for me because 25% of the Israeli population is actually Arabs. Most of them are Muslims, more than 20% [of the population] are Muslims. I’m one of them, right?”
    “And the Arabs in Israel are getting like equal rights, like they’re citizens for everything, getting welfare, education, health care, anything that a Jewish citizen would get,” she stated. “So how can you call this an apartheid or committing ethnical genocide?”
    “I was born to a Bedouin family,” she said. “Bedouins are nomadic Arabs. My mother was and is penniless and illiterate. She doesn’t know reading and writing because her parents didn’t believe that women have the right to go to school; they should be on the fields and herd the sheep.”

    Then she praised Israel: “Israel, after it was founded, forced all children to go to school. It’s like mandatory. And it couldn’t stand that there are girls who are not getting educated. If not for Israel, I probably would be illiterate, penniless, herding sheep somewhere in the [Galilee area of Israel].”

    “But I have an electrical engineering degree; I have a masters from Stanford University and I have my rights to live my life the way that I wanted to live them,” she enthused. “Israel gave us everything that it could give us even though we were Arabs.”
    “People are talking about apartheid and ethnical genocide,” she asserted. “It just doesn’t match the truth; it doesn’t match the reality. They need to go and read the facts. And it’s funny that sometimes it comes from intelligent students at elite universities saying this kind of nonsense.”

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/if-not-for-israel-i-probably-would-be-illiterate-penniless-herding-sheep-young-israeli-arab-woman-denounces-israel-haters-who-call-it-an-apartheid-state?fbclid=IwAR2hc0HGsBCY9y-qcxzcaTDEzIoM1GX8jaorDVJiJmhtRqHlQpyWGy2OK9g

    Kaizaki defeated the dried  up witch and got her prince in the end.

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    Asbestos [2605613]

    For someone who claims to be some kind of master historian (“I know what I’m talking about because I minored in history!”), your ability to examine primary sources and derive meaning from them is extremely poor. Allow me to share with everyone reading, an example of the many dishonest posts that you make, and how it is ridiculous propaganda.

    I’ve reposted your picture so you can’t do another one of your sneaky gaslighting edits when you get caught.


    In 1944 (the date in the propaganda text in your picture) that airport was RAF Station Lydda. It didn’t become Lod until later.

    It was not renamed to Lod Airport (a Hebrew name) by the Israelis until 1948. It was renamed again to Ben Gurion in 1973.


    The fact that we can see “WELCOME TO LOD AIRPORT” painted on the airport means that the actual photo was taken between 1948 and 1973.


    It was certainly NOT “Palestinian airport 1944”.

    I guess when it comes to history your motto is “if I don’t steal it, someone else gonna”.


    Here is the original photo before some dumbass pasted easily refuted bullshit over the top of it.


    #FactChecked

    Seba_Nile [1782274]





    I like how you totally ignored the video and other stuff that showed no Israel before 1948 massacre genocide and settler colonialism which is now an apartheid state.


    Asbestos [2605613]

    Sebas Propaganda Technique 3A: When caught in a lie, ignore and deflect. Do not ever admit being wrong and pasting bullshit from a propaganda site.

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    Lod was a city in Palestine. Lod underwent a major change in its population in the mid-20th century. Exclusively Palestinian Arab in 1947, Lod was part of the area designated for an Arab state in the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine; however, in July 1948, the city was occupied by the IDF, and most of its Arab inhabitants were expelled in the 1948 Palestinian expulsion from Lydda and Ramle.

    you didn’t dispel or prove anything. It was a Palestinian airport.

    Asbestos [2605613]

    Ridiculous. It was a British air station. But more importantly, we can confirm with certainty that the stuff you or some propagandist pasted over the picture (look: 1944) is complete crap, because it wouldn’t have said Welcome to Lod at all until 1948.


    It was built British, stayed British, and then was disputed from April 1948 when the British gave it up, until July 1948, ending up under Israeli control.


    The city of Lod was never a city in Palestine. If you were going to make that claim, you would have called it by its Arab name “Lydda” instead of its Hebrew name “Lod”

    ”Welcome to Lod” on the side of the building speaks absolute volumes to the lies you tell. You’ve been absolutely caught in your nonsense on this one.


    Sebas Propaganda Technique 3B: When pressed, continue to deflect. Double down on the lies. Gaslight. Do not ever admit being wrong and pasting bullshit from a propaganda site.

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    Who were there before the British mandate/ occupation, it was Palestinian land.
    Nope, thats one of your lies that you lie in hope that a stupid forum reader might believe you.
    A non stupid forum reader will do the quickest of search and will find out that before the British mandate the area was an Ottoman land, and all the Arab population was loyal Ottoman subjects, without any reference to a distinct Palestinian nation, beside the bureaucratic reference to the county of Palestine, a county in the Ottoman empire, which can not be regarded as a state in any way or form.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Palestinians

    Hamas (Palestine's leaders) intentionally murder children and elderly for fun.
    If you support Palestine you also support intentional murder of children and elderly.
    Its that simple.

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    Seba_Nile [1782274]





    I like how you totally ignored the video and other stuff that showed no Israel before 1948 massacre genocide and settler colonialism which is now an apartheid state.


    Asbestos [2605613]

    Sebas Propaganda Technique 3A: When caught in a lie, ignore and deflect. Do not ever admit being wrong and pasting bullshit from a propaganda site.

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    Lod was a city in Palestine. Lod underwent a major change in its population in the mid-20th century. Exclusively Palestinian Arab in 1947, Lod was part of the area designated for an Arab state in the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine; however, in July 1948, the city was occupied by the IDF, and most of its Arab inhabitants were expelled in the 1948 Palestinian expulsion from Lydda and Ramle.

    you didn’t dispel or prove anything. It was a Palestinian airport.

    Asbestos [2605613]

    Ridiculous. It was a British air station. But more importantly, we can confirm with certainty that the stuff you or some propagandist pasted over the picture (look: 1944) is complete crap, because it wouldn’t have said Welcome to Lod at all until 1948.


    It was built British, stayed British, and then was disputed from April 1948 when the British gave it up, until July 1948, ending up under Israeli control.


    The city of Lod was never a city in Palestine. If you were going to make that claim, you would have called it by its Arab name “Lydda” instead of its Hebrew name “Lod”

    ”Welcome to Lod” on the side of the building speaks absolute volumes to the lies you tell. You’ve been absolutely caught in your nonsense on this one.


    Sebas Propaganda Technique 3B: When pressed, continue to deflect. Double down on the lies. Gaslight. Do not ever admit being wrong and pasting bullshit from a propaganda site.

    Seba_Nile [1782274]

    Who were there before the British mandate/ occupation, it was Palestinian land.

    deadalus29 [2536273]

    Nope, thats one of your lies that you lie in hope that a stupid forum reader might believe you.
    A non stupid forum reader will do the quickest of search and will find out that before the British mandate the area was an Ottoman land, and all the Arab population was loyal Ottoman subjects, without any reference to a distinct Palestinian nation, beside the bureaucratic reference to the county of Palestine, a county in the Ottoman empire, which can not be regarded as a state in any way or form.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Palestinians

    Kaizaki defeated the dried  up witch and got her prince in the end.

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