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    Posted on 09:34:44 - 22/07/22 (6 months ago)
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    Collete [1389080]

    Will they look into all the attacks on federal buildings in Portland and Seaattle ?

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    Were any of them attempts to overturn a democratic election?

    Collete [1389080]

    Why would that make a difference a crime is a crime.

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    So you're literally just changing the subject from Jan 6 being a coup attempt. Weak

    Collete [1389080]

    I asked a question in a public forum if you have nothing to add please make me some fries

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    Your comeback game is maybe the weakest in this forum. Guess that's what happens when you just echo fox news opinions and call it a personality
    game "?

    Unlike yourself I prefer facts and no I dont really watch fox its as bad as CNN

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    Posted on 10:33:46 - 22/07/22 (6 months ago)
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    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    Were any of them attempts to overturn a democratic election?

    Collete [1389080]

    Why would that make a difference a crime is a crime.

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    So you're literally just changing the subject from Jan 6 being a coup attempt. Weak

    Collete [1389080]

    I asked a question in a public forum if you have nothing to add please make me some fries

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    Your comeback game is maybe the weakest in this forum. Guess that's what happens when you just echo fox news opinions and call it a personality

    Collete [1389080]

    game "?

    Unlike yourself I prefer facts and no I dont really watch fox its as bad as CNN
    Lol, you keep saying you prefer facts but whenever people check your "facts" they fall apart. You just like soundbites you can try to use to attack "the left" for some reason. Idk who hurt you, but on behalf of the left, I'm sorry for their behaviour.
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    Posted on 10:35:22 - 22/07/22 (6 months ago)
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    Collete [1389080]

    Why would that make a difference a crime is a crime.

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    So you're literally just changing the subject from Jan 6 being a coup attempt. Weak

    Collete [1389080]

    I asked a question in a public forum if you have nothing to add please make me some fries

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    Your comeback game is maybe the weakest in this forum. Guess that's what happens when you just echo fox news opinions and call it a personality

    Collete [1389080]

    game "?

    Unlike yourself I prefer facts and no I dont really watch fox its as bad as CNN

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    Lol, you keep saying you prefer facts but whenever people check your "facts" they fall apart. You just like soundbites you can try to use to attack "the left" for some reason. Idk who hurt you, but on behalf of the left, I'm sorry for their behaviour.
    give me a example then as you clearly never have  go on Im waiting

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    Posted on 10:44:24 - 22/07/22 (6 months ago)
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    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    So you're literally just changing the subject from Jan 6 being a coup attempt. Weak

    Collete [1389080]

    I asked a question in a public forum if you have nothing to add please make me some fries

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    Your comeback game is maybe the weakest in this forum. Guess that's what happens when you just echo fox news opinions and call it a personality

    Collete [1389080]

    game "?

    Unlike yourself I prefer facts and no I dont really watch fox its as bad as CNN

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    Lol, you keep saying you prefer facts but whenever people check your "facts" they fall apart. You just like soundbites you can try to use to attack "the left" for some reason. Idk who hurt you, but on behalf of the left, I'm sorry for their behaviour.

    Collete [1389080]

    give me a example then as you clearly never have go on Im waiting
    All you ever post is propaganda from far right sources haha right now you're posting rubbish about "antifa pedophiles" in the other thread, half of which aren't even members of an antifa group.
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    Posted on 10:59:13 - 22/07/22 (6 months ago)
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    Collete [1389080]

    I asked a question in a public forum if you have nothing to add please make me some fries

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    Your comeback game is maybe the weakest in this forum. Guess that's what happens when you just echo fox news opinions and call it a personality

    Collete [1389080]

    game "?

    Unlike yourself I prefer facts and no I dont really watch fox its as bad as CNN

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    Lol, you keep saying you prefer facts but whenever people check your "facts" they fall apart. You just like soundbites you can try to use to attack "the left" for some reason. Idk who hurt you, but on behalf of the left, I'm sorry for their behaviour.

    Collete [1389080]

    give me a example then as you clearly never have go on Im waiting

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    All you ever post is propaganda from far right sources haha right now you're posting rubbish about "antifa pedophiles" in the other thread, half of which aren't even members of an antifa group.
    Prove me wrong if you did then I would look very stupid but you don't why is that ?



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    Posted on 11:02:45 - 22/07/22 (6 months ago)
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    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    Your comeback game is maybe the weakest in this forum. Guess that's what happens when you just echo fox news opinions and call it a personality

    Collete [1389080]

    game "?

    Unlike yourself I prefer facts and no I dont really watch fox its as bad as CNN

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    Lol, you keep saying you prefer facts but whenever people check your "facts" they fall apart. You just like soundbites you can try to use to attack "the left" for some reason. Idk who hurt you, but on behalf of the left, I'm sorry for their behaviour.

    Collete [1389080]

    give me a example then as you clearly never have go on Im waiting

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    All you ever post is propaganda from far right sources haha right now you're posting rubbish about "antifa pedophiles" in the other thread, half of which aren't even members of an antifa group.

    Collete [1389080]

    Prove me wrong if you did then I would look very stupid but you don't why is that ?



    Capgros already did, and you do. I can guarantee I make more money than you, but I actually don't consider that a reason I'm better than you. I just have all the other reasons.
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    Posted on 11:13:17 - 22/07/22 (6 months ago)
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    game "?

    Unlike yourself I prefer facts and no I dont really watch fox its as bad as CNN

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    Lol, you keep saying you prefer facts but whenever people check your "facts" they fall apart. You just like soundbites you can try to use to attack "the left" for some reason. Idk who hurt you, but on behalf of the left, I'm sorry for their behaviour.

    Collete [1389080]

    give me a example then as you clearly never have go on Im waiting

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    All you ever post is propaganda from far right sources haha right now you're posting rubbish about "antifa pedophiles" in the other thread, half of which aren't even members of an antifa group.

    Collete [1389080]

    Prove me wrong if you did then I would look very stupid but you don't why is that ?



    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    Capgros already did, and you do. I can guarantee I make more money than you, but I actually don't consider that a reason I'm better than you. I just have all the other reasons.
    He didnt and why go on about money in real life is that the fall back you reach to when you lose a argument online , as a so called communist why would you care about money anyway ?

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    Posted on 11:17:26 - 22/07/22 (6 months ago)
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    Lol, you keep saying you prefer facts but whenever people check your "facts" they fall apart. You just like soundbites you can try to use to attack "the left" for some reason. Idk who hurt you, but on behalf of the left, I'm sorry for their behaviour.

    Collete [1389080]

    give me a example then as you clearly never have go on Im waiting

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    All you ever post is propaganda from far right sources haha right now you're posting rubbish about "antifa pedophiles" in the other thread, half of which aren't even members of an antifa group.

    Collete [1389080]

    Prove me wrong if you did then I would look very stupid but you don't why is that ?



    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    Capgros already did, and you do. I can guarantee I make more money than you, but I actually don't consider that a reason I'm better than you. I just have all the other reasons.

    Collete [1389080]

    He didnt and why go on about money in real life is that the fall back you reach to when you lose a argument online , as a so called communist why would you care about money anyway ?
    He did, and your ayn rand quote is literally "make your money bitch f**k the haters" lmaop
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    Posted on 11:21:06 - 22/07/22 (6 months ago)
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    Collete [1389080]

    give me a example then as you clearly never have go on Im waiting

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    All you ever post is propaganda from far right sources haha right now you're posting rubbish about "antifa pedophiles" in the other thread, half of which aren't even members of an antifa group.

    Collete [1389080]

    Prove me wrong if you did then I would look very stupid but you don't why is that ?



    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    Capgros already did, and you do. I can guarantee I make more money than you, but I actually don't consider that a reason I'm better than you. I just have all the other reasons.

    Collete [1389080]

    He didnt and why go on about money in real life is that the fall back you reach to when you lose a argument online , as a so called communist why would you care about money anyway ?

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    He did, and your ayn rand quote is literally "make your money bitch f**k the haters" lmaop
    show where he did Im waiting

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    Posted on 12:42:24 - 22/07/22 (6 months ago)
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    ZickyJackz [497258]

    "cOuP AtTeMpT". I stopped there. What a joke. LOL

    Rat-Bastard [2603292]

    Calling it a coup attempt is just dishonest.

    H4D35 [1487001]

    Calling it a coup attempt is just dishonest.




    DOES THIS SEEM DISHONEST TO YOU

    Collete [1389080]

    Will they look into all the attacks on federal buildings in Portland and Seaattle ?

    mrnoob2 [2770824]

    Were any of them attempts to overturn a democratic election?

    Collete [1389080]

    Why would that make a difference a crime is a crime.
    And those trespassers and vandalists we're arrested or ticketed according to the local laws. 

    We should do the same with all involved in Jan 6th too.
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    Posted on 18:31:36 - 22/07/22 (6 months ago)
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    Has the Democrat Stazi actually made any indictments as of yet ?
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    Posted on 12:18:37 - 14/10/22 (3 months ago)
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    Take 7 minutes to watch House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and others respond to the Capitol insurrection in previously unseen footage.

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    Posted on 15:09:06 - 14/10/22 (3 months ago)
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    Interesting to see that Scalise was at hand when Pelosi was trying to get the National Guard to come in.....thought he said she didn't do anything.


    They're full of shit always
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    Posted on 14:45:22 - 15/10/22 (3 months ago)
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    trump responds to the jan 6th subpoena: 

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/trump-responds-jan-6-committee-subpoena

    need to feel stupid, or the like? here is the first paragraph:

    Dear Chairman Thompson,

    THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION OF 2020 WAS RIGGED AND STOLEN!

    The same group of Radical Left Democrats who utilized their Majority position in Congress to create the fiction of Russia, Russia, Russia, Impeachment Hoax #1, Impeachment Hoax #2, the $48 Million Mueller Report (which ended in No Collusion!), Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, the atrocious and illegal Spying on my Campaign, and so much more, are the people who created this Committee of highly partisan political Hacks and Thugs whose sole function is to destroy the lives of many hard-working American Patriots, whose records in life have been unblemished until this point of attempted ruination. The double standard of the Unselects between what has taken place on the “RIGHT,” and what has taken place with Radical Left, lawless groups such as Antifa, Black Lives Matter, and others, is startling and will never be acceptable, even to those who will be writing the history of what you have done to America.

    And yes, this is the OFFICIAL LEGAL response...i wonder what his lawyers are thinking, lol
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    Posted on 15:42:44 - 15/10/22 (3 months ago)
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    trump responds to the jan 6th subpoena:

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/trump-responds-jan-6-committee-subpoena

    need to feel stupid, or the like? here is the first paragraph:

    Dear Chairman Thompson,

    THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION OF 2020 WAS RIGGED AND STOLEN!

    The same group of Radical Left Democrats who utilized their Majority position in Congress to create the fiction of Russia, Russia, Russia, Impeachment Hoax #1, Impeachment Hoax #2, the $48 Million Mueller Report (which ended in No Collusion!), Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, the atrocious and illegal Spying on my Campaign, and so much more, are the people who created this Committee of highly partisan political Hacks and Thugs whose sole function is to destroy the lives of many hard-working American Patriots, whose records in life have been unblemished until this point of attempted ruination. The double standard of the Unselects between what has taken place on the “RIGHT,” and what has taken place with Radical Left, lawless groups such as Antifa, Black Lives Matter, and others, is startling and will never be acceptable, even to those who will be writing the history of what you have done to America.

    And yes, this is the OFFICIAL LEGAL response...i wonder what his lawyers are thinking, lol
    Radical left Biden/Harris
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    Posted on 11:34:05 - 29/11/22 (2 months ago)
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    OH ITS COMING :)

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    Posted on 12:47:06 - 30/11/22 (2 months ago)
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    "Rhodes, who wears an eye patch after accidentally shooting himself in the face with his own gun, is one of the most prominent defendants of the roughly 900 charged so far in connection with the attack."

    If 2016-2022 U.S. was a movie I would say it's not believable and give it 2/5 stars.

    If a character in a novel had injured himself in this way prior to attempting to overthrow the government and then gotten convicted of such, I would say the symbolism is too heavy-handed.



    WASHINGTON, Nov 29 (Reuters) - Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes, and another leader of the right-wing group, were found guilty on Tuesday of seditious conspiracy for the attack on the U.S. Capitol by Donald Trump supporters, an important win for the Justice Department.

    The verdicts against Rhodes and four co-defendants, after three days of deliberations by the 12-member jury, came in the highest-profile trial so far to emerge from the deadly Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the U.S. Capitol, a failed bid to overturn then-President Trump's 2020 election defeat.

    Rhodes, a Yale Law School-educated former Army paratrooper and disbarred attorney, was accused by prosecutors during an eight-week trial of plotting to use force to try to block Congress from certifying Democratic President Joe Biden's election victory over Republican Trump.

    Rhodes was convicted on three counts and acquitted on two.

    One of his co-defendants, Kelly Meggs, was also found guilty of seditious conspiracy while the three others - Kenneth Harrelson, Jessica Watkins and Thomas Caldwell - were acquitted of that charge.

    All five defendants were convicted of obstruction of an official proceeding - the congressional certification of the election results - with mixed verdicts on a handful of other charges.

    The charges of seditious conspiracy and obstruction of an official proceeding each carry a sentence of up to 20 years in prison.

    Two more high-profile trials related to the attack are due to begin next month. Four other Oath Keepers members face seditious conspiracy charges, as do members of the right-wing Proud Boys group, including its former chairman Enrique Tarrio.

    James Lee Bright, an attorney for Rhodes, said he thinks the verdict will inform how the Justice Department proceeds on the other seditious conspiracy prosecutions.

    "The return in this, even though we're not pleased with it, probably speaks to the fact that the DOJ is going to go full steam ahead in like fashion on all the others," Bright told reporters outside court.

    Rhodes, who wears an eye patch after accidentally shooting himself in the face with his own gun, is one of the most prominent defendants of the roughly 900 charged over the attack.

    Meggs, who heads the Oath Keepers' Florida chapter, was the only defendant besides Rhodes in this trial who played a leadership role in the organization.

    Rhodes in 2009 founded the Oath Keepers, a militia group whose members include current and retired U.S. military personnel, law enforcement officers and first responders.

    Its members have showed up, often heavily armed, at protests and political events around the United States including the racial justice demonstrations following the murder of a Black man named George Floyd by a white Minneapolis police officer.

    "The Justice Department is committed to holding accountable those criminally responsible for the assault on our democracy on Jan. 6, 2021," Attorney General Merrick Garland said in a statement.

    Oath Keepers founder, Stewart Rhodes, speaks during the Patriots Day Free Speech Rally in Berkeley, California, U.S. April 15, 2017. REUTERS/Jim Urquhart
    Rhodes' lawyer Ed Tarpley called the verdicts "a mixed bag."

    "We are grateful for the not guilty verdicts received. We are disappointed in the guilty verdicts," Tarpley told reporters outside court. "There was no evidence introduced to indicate there was a plan to attack the Capitol."

    Prosecutors during the trial said Rhodes and his co-defendants planned to use force to prevent Congress from formally certifying Biden's election victory. Meggs, Watkins and Harrelson all entered the Capitol clad in tactical gear.

    The defendants were also accused of creating a "quick reaction force" that prosecutors said was positioned at a nearby Virginia hotel and was equipped with firearms that could be quickly transported into Washington.

    Fifty witnesses testified during the trial, including Rhodes and two of his co-defendants.

    They denied plotting any attack or seeking to block Congress from certifying the election results, though Watkins admitted to impeding police officers protecting the Capitol.

    Rhodes told the jury he had no plan to storm the Capitol and did not learn that some of his fellow Oath Keepers had breached the building until after the riot had ended.

    Prosecutors during cross-examination sought to paint Rhodes as a liar, showing him page after page of his inflammatory text messages, videos, photos and audio recordings.

    These included Rhodes lamenting about not bringing rifles to Washington on Jan. 6 and saying he could have hanged U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a Democrat reviled by the right.

    Watkins, a transgender woman who fled the U.S. Army after being confronted with homophobic slurs, and Caldwell, a disabled U.S. Navy veteran, also chose to testify.

    Watkins admitted to having "criminal liability" for impeding police officers inside the Capitol and apologized. At the same time, Watkins denied having any plan to storm the building, describing being "swept up" just as enthusiastic shoppers behave on "Black Friday" when they rush into stores to purchase discount-price holiday gifts like TVs.

    Her attorney, Jonathan Crisp, told reporters he was "grateful" his client was acquitted of sedition.

    Caldwell, who like Rhodes did not enter the Capitol building and never formally joined the Oath Keepers, tried to downplay some of the inflammatory texts he sent around the attack. Caldwell said some of the lines were adapted from or inspired by movies such as "The Princess Bride" and cartoons such as Bugs Bunny.

    Attorneys for both Harrelson and Rhodes told reporters after the trial they intend to appeal the convictions.
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    Posted on 13:03:57 - 30/11/22 (2 months ago)
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    H4D35 [1487001]

    24 Secret Service agents deleted their texts.That's not a mistake, that's a cover up.

    something something killarys emails
    Yeah it’s only a mistake when Hillary’s staff smashes all her phones and tablets with hammers
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    Posted on 16:46:28 - 30/11/22 (1 month ago)
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    The verdict in the Oath Keeper trial obliterates any claims by Trump, his Republican allies or disorientated pseudo-left and middle-class layers that the January 6 attack on the Capitol was a “spontaneous” First Amendment “demonstration” that simply got out of hand.


    "In total, Rhodes faces a maximum 60 years in prison. Meggs is facing the longest sentence, a possible 86 years in prison. Watkins, Harrelson and Caldwell could also be facing upwards of 40 years in prison.

    US District Court Judge Amit Mehta, a Trump-appointee, has not set a sentencing date yet.

    Rhodes’ attorney, Ed Tarpley, characterized the verdict against his client as a “mixed bag” and indicated that Rhodes would be filing an appeal.

    The jury’s verdict obliterates any claims by Trump, his Republican allies or disorientated pseudo-left and middle-class layers that the January 6 attack on the Capitol was a “spontaneous” First Amendment “demonstration” that simply got out of hand.

    The violence that erupted on January 6 was the culmination of a months-long plot, hatched from the White House, aimed at overturning democratic forms of rule in the United States.

    The trial confirmed that following Trump’s electoral defeat, the Oath Keepers and other militia groups used the “Stop the Steal” rallies as a nexus point to coordinate with the Trump campaign and US Secret Service agents in the months leading up to the attack, obliterating lying claims from the FBI and other domestic police intelligence agencies that there was no evidence that an attack on Congress was imminent.

    During the attack itself, Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, QAnon fascists, neo-Nazis and white supremacists overwhelmed the undermanned and underequipped Capitol Police officers, sending politicians fleeing. (lol)

    As the fascists broke into the Capitol at 1:49 p.m., former D.C. National Guard Commander William Walker called his superiors at the Pentagon to request permission to deploy soldiers under his command.

    Walker’s urgent request to save Congress went unanswered for 199 minutes, allowing Trump’s mob hours to roam the Capitol to capture and/or kill Trump’s political enemies, with Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and Vice President Mike Pence at the top of the list.

    The fact that only five people died during the violent attack is more a function of the fascists’ disorganization than any active resistance by the numerous military and intelligence agencies charged with defending the US government.

    To illustrate that Rhodes’ plan was months in the making, prosecutors presented text messages, recordings of online meetings, and the testimony of former Oath Keepers.

    Revealing that Rhodes’ plan was coordinated with elements tied to the White House, prosecutors began their case by presenting text messages Rhodes sent to the “Friends of Stone” chat group on November 7, 2021, immediately after Biden was declared in the winner.

    “What’s the plan? We need to roll ASAP,” Rhodes texted the group, which was headed by Trump political confidant Roger Stone.

    Other members of the group included Oath Keepers lead counsel Kellye SoRelle, “Stop the Steal” lead organizer Ali Alexander and Proud Boys leader and FBI informant Henry “Enrique” Tarrio, who is also facing seditious conspiracy charges."

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    Posted on 20:03:47 - 30/11/22 (1 month ago)
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    Also here's your regular reminder that the Oath Keeper verdict, the Buffalo verdict, the Mar a Lago dinner, and the Proud Boys elections to local offices are part of THE SAME STORY about a rising and militant white power movement

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