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    Thread created on 21:40:03 - 14/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Seems some think Milley has commited Treason.  This Article provides some details, that are outlined in a book written by Bob Woodward. 

    Newsweek Article


    That should shut up the whiny bitches moaning about the Federalist, Which I only posted as it was the only news source that had reported on this at that time, that I could find.
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    Posted on 22:05:00 - 14/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    This shouldn't surprise anyone .. Milley is a piece of shit.
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    Posted on 22:16:33 - 14/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    If this turns out true, it's pretty damning shit.

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    Posted on 22:20:09 - 14/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    You mean this story? The one where Trump's anti-China rhetoric had China convinced that the US would attack? So Gen. Milley called his counterpart in China to assure them that the US was not about to deploy their nuclear arsenal?

    Sure. Sounds like treason. uh huh. And yes, a mainstream news service is providing the story, just not with the slant you want on it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/14/peril-woodward-costa-trump-milley-china/
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    Posted on 22:21:38 - 14/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    When I search mainstream media for Milley and treason, I get this:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/09/milley-confederates-treason-review-army-base-names-355452
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    Posted on 22:24:22 - 14/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    You mean this story? The one where Trump's anti-China rhetoric had China convinced that the US would attack? So Gen. Milley called his counterpart in China to assure them that the US was not about to deploy their nuclear arsenal?

    Sure. Sounds like treason. uh huh. And yes, a mainstream news service is providing the story, just not with the slant you want on it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/14/peril-woodward-costa-trump-milley-china/
    I'm used to seeing you say dumb things but this takes the cake. 
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    Posted on 23:21:34 - 14/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    General Milley is a patriot and believer of the institution of American Democracy. An unprovoked, uniliteral first strike against China without authorization from congress would be unconstitutional and therefore would be considered in unlawful order in which the military is not obligated to follow. You have these sorts of scenarios play out in officer ascension programs as hypotheticals but you never want to actually work through them in real life. General Milley did a phenomenal job.
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    Posted on 23:28:03 - 14/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    General Milley is a patriot and believer of the institution of American Democracy. An unprovoked, uniliteral first strike against China without authorization from congress would be unconstitutional and therefore would be considered in unlawful order in which the military is not obligated to follow. You have these sorts of scenarios play out in officer ascension programs as hypotheticals but you never want to actually work through them in real life. General Milley did a phenomenal job.
    I stand corrected, this tops it.
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    General Milley is a patriot and believer of the institution of American Democracy. An unprovoked, uniliteral first strike against China without authorization from congress would be unconstitutional and therefore would be considered in unlawful order in which the military is not obligated to follow. You have these sorts of scenarios play out in officer ascension programs as hypotheticals but you never want to actually work through them in real life. General Milley did a phenomenal job.

    beeg [2603292]

    I stand corrected, this tops it.
    It's evident you were never an officer in the US military. If you were you would have the perspective that I see this with.
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    Posted on 23:39:35 - 14/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    General Milley is a patriot and believer of the institution of American Democracy. An unprovoked, uniliteral first strike against China without authorization from congress would be unconstitutional and therefore would be considered in unlawful order in which the military is not obligated to follow. You have these sorts of scenarios play out in officer ascension programs as hypotheticals but you never want to actually work through them in real life. General Milley did a phenomenal job.

    beeg [2603292]

    I stand corrected, this tops it.

    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    It's evident you were never an officer in the US military. If you were you would have the perspective that I see this with.
    Nope, just enlisted. The folks that did actual work.
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    Posted on 23:44:21 - 14/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    General Milley is a patriot and believer of the institution of American Democracy. An unprovoked, uniliteral first strike against China without authorization from congress would be unconstitutional and therefore would be considered in unlawful order in which the military is not obligated to follow. You have these sorts of scenarios play out in officer ascension programs as hypotheticals but you never want to actually work through them in real life. General Milley did a phenomenal job.

    beeg [2603292]

    I stand corrected, this tops it.

    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    It's evident you were never an officer in the US military. If you were you would have the perspective that I see this with.
    Also just senior enlisted myself and thankfully never served under a piece of shit officer that'd call Milley's actions anything less than treasonous.

    Not that it will ever get looked into, but in the event it does and he's found guilty, I hope they bring back some of the old punishments that would get me a ban on facebook for inciting violence.
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    Posted on 23:46:04 - 14/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    General Milley is a patriot and believer of the institution of American Democracy. An unprovoked, uniliteral first strike against China without authorization from congress would be unconstitutional and therefore would be considered in unlawful order in which the military is not obligated to follow. You have these sorts of scenarios play out in officer ascension programs as hypotheticals but you never want to actually work through them in real life. General Milley did a phenomenal job.

    beeg [2603292]

    I stand corrected, this tops it.

    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    It's evident you were never an officer in the US military. If you were you would have the perspective that I see this with.

    beeg [2603292]

    Nope, just enlisted. The folks that did actual work.
    You've explained in 9 words why you don't have perspective why General Milley is and will always be a patriot. Carry on.
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    Posted on 23:52:37 - 14/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    General Milley is a patriot and believer of the institution of American Democracy. An unprovoked, uniliteral first strike against China without authorization from congress would be unconstitutional and therefore would be considered in unlawful order in which the military is not obligated to follow. You have these sorts of scenarios play out in officer ascension programs as hypotheticals but you never want to actually work through them in real life. General Milley did a phenomenal job.

    beeg [2603292]

    I stand corrected, this tops it.

    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    It's evident you were never an officer in the US military. If you were you would have the perspective that I see this with.

    SporkMonkey [2065017]

    Also just senior enlisted myself and thankfully never served under a piece of shit officer that'd call Milley's actions anything less than treasonous.

    Not that it will ever get looked into, but in the event it does and he's found guilty, I hope they bring back some of the old punishments that would get me a ban on facebook for inciting violence.
    I'd love for you to expand on why you think General Milley's actions are treasonous? The man took steps to prevent war with China. Or is that something you think is in the best interest of the country?
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    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    General Milley is a patriot and believer of the institution of American Democracy. An unprovoked, uniliteral first strike against China without authorization from congress would be unconstitutional and therefore would be considered in unlawful order in which the military is not obligated to follow. You have these sorts of scenarios play out in officer ascension programs as hypotheticals but you never want to actually work through them in real life. General Milley did a phenomenal job.

    beeg [2603292]

    I stand corrected, this tops it.

    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    It's evident you were never an officer in the US military. If you were you would have the perspective that I see this with.

    beeg [2603292]

    Nope, just enlisted. The folks that did actual work.

    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    You've explained in 9 words why you don't have perspective why General Milley is and will always be a patriot. Carry on.
    Yes suh, since I wasn’t an officer, I guess I can’t see it from your perspective. By the way, nobody cares if you were an officer in the Navy. 



    Milley needs to stay in his lane.
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    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    General Milley is a patriot and believer of the institution of American Democracy. An unprovoked, uniliteral first strike against China without authorization from congress would be unconstitutional and therefore would be considered in unlawful order in which the military is not obligated to follow. You have these sorts of scenarios play out in officer ascension programs as hypotheticals but you never want to actually work through them in real life. General Milley did a phenomenal job.

    beeg [2603292]

    I stand corrected, this tops it.

    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    It's evident you were never an officer in the US military. If you were you would have the perspective that I see this with.

    beeg [2603292]

    Nope, just enlisted. The folks that did actual work.

    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    You've explained in 9 words why you don't have perspective why General Milley is and will always be a patriot. Carry on.

    beeg [2603292]

    Yes suh, since I wasn’t an officer, I guess I can’t see it from your perspective. By the way, nobody cares if you were an officer in the Navy.



    Milley needs to stay in his lane.
    Which lane is that? Keeping the country from launching nuclear weapons without cause is very much his lane.
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    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    General Milley is a patriot and believer of the institution of American Democracy. An unprovoked, uniliteral first strike against China without authorization from congress would be unconstitutional and therefore would be considered in unlawful order in which the military is not obligated to follow. You have these sorts of scenarios play out in officer ascension programs as hypotheticals but you never want to actually work through them in real life. General Milley did a phenomenal job.

    beeg [2603292]

    I stand corrected, this tops it.

    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    It's evident you were never an officer in the US military. If you were you would have the perspective that I see this with.

    SporkMonkey [2065017]

    Also just senior enlisted myself and thankfully never served under a piece of shit officer that'd call Milley's actions anything less than treasonous.

    Not that it will ever get looked into, but in the event it does and he's found guilty, I hope they bring back some of the old punishments that would get me a ban on facebook for inciting violence.

    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    I'd love for you to expand on why you think General Milley's actions are treasonous? The man took steps to prevent war with China. Or is that something you think is in the best interest of the country?
    Hatch Act
    Logan Act

    You choose.
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    Posted on 00:05:42 - 15/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Does anyone in their right mind actually think Trump would have nuked something? Of course not. That's stupid. Trump was running around trying to promote peace deals his entire presidency.

    It's truly unbelievable how that people for four years tried to undermine a duly elected President on pretty much every issue.
    The left just can't cede any sort of power and will use every tool at their disposal to derail their political enemy.

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    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    General Milley is a patriot and believer of the institution of American Democracy. An unprovoked, uniliteral first strike against China without authorization from congress would be unconstitutional and therefore would be considered in unlawful order in which the military is not obligated to follow. You have these sorts of scenarios play out in officer ascension programs as hypotheticals but you never want to actually work through them in real life. General Milley did a phenomenal job.

    beeg [2603292]

    I stand corrected, this tops it.

    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    It's evident you were never an officer in the US military. If you were you would have the perspective that I see this with.

    SporkMonkey [2065017]

    Also just senior enlisted myself and thankfully never served under a piece of shit officer that'd call Milley's actions anything less than treasonous.

    Not that it will ever get looked into, but in the event it does and he's found guilty, I hope they bring back some of the old punishments that would get me a ban on facebook for inciting violence.

    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    I'd love for you to expand on why you think General Milley's actions are treasonous? The man took steps to prevent war with China. Or is that something you think is in the best interest of the country?

    SporkMonkey [2065017]

    Hatch Act
    Logan Act

    You choose.
    I prefer 
    18 U.S. Code § 2381 which is actually US code for Treason.

    "Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

    So again, I ask how would General Milley's actions meet the above definition?

    Hatch Act and Logan Act are really not germane here. Logan would be the closest maybe but even then, there was no negotiating done.
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    beeg [2603292]

    I stand corrected, this tops it.

    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    It's evident you were never an officer in the US military. If you were you would have the perspective that I see this with.

    SporkMonkey [2065017]

    Also just senior enlisted myself and thankfully never served under a piece of shit officer that'd call Milley's actions anything less than treasonous.

    Not that it will ever get looked into, but in the event it does and he's found guilty, I hope they bring back some of the old punishments that would get me a ban on facebook for inciting violence.

    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    I'd love for you to expand on why you think General Milley's actions are treasonous? The man took steps to prevent war with China. Or is that something you think is in the best interest of the country?

    SporkMonkey [2065017]

    Hatch Act
    Logan Act

    You choose.

    angrysc0tsman12 [1099272]

    I prefer
    18 U.S. Code § 2381 which is actually US code for Treason.

    "Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

    So again, I ask how would General Milley's actions meet the above definition?

    Hatch Act and Logan Act are really not germane here. Logan would be the closest maybe but even then, there was no negotiating done.
    Reading is hard, I know. Try reading the above mentioned acts.

    BTW, is it cool, in your unit, for officers to swear an oath to their superior officers as Milley asked his officers to do?

    Is that acceptable in your unit, "sir?"

    Feel free to continue to make excuses because of your personal politics. You are an embarrassment to the uniform you wear and all the men and women that have spilled blood while wearing it.
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    Does anyone in their right mind actually think Trump would have nuked something? Of course not. That's stupid. Trump was running around trying to promote peace deals his entire presidency.

    It's truly unbelievable how that people for four years tried to undermine a duly elected President on pretty much every issue.
    The left just can't cede any sort of power and will use every tool at their disposal to derail their political enemy.

    To be honest, I don't know. The man refused to concede defeat after a free and fair election and was diving deep down the rabbit whole of conspiracy theories. Anything was possible. In the despot playbook, having a scapegoat war to distract the public isn't unheard of. Couple that with a president which has prided himself on upsetting presidential norms and advisors which have advocating declaring marshal law (Gen Flynn) and you have a very concerning situation.
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