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    Posted on 14:33:18 - 06/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Divinitywolf [2160704]

    How was that a weird comparison? I responded directly to your post about not taking the flu vaccine and not getting sick for 20 years.

    I figured the point you were making was that because you hadn't got sick, the flu shot isn't needed. That's using the same anecdotal logic as my example. If I got your point wrong then please clarify.

    I think you've mentioned before but I can't remember. Why do you think vaccines are being promoted so much? I'm genuinely curious what you think the reasons are.

    Tyrion [1967379]

    The promotion of these vaccines could have lots of reasons, for one direct monetary gains through certain companies/institutions involved, secondly to justify political legislations and new totalitairian laws as can been seen in most countries in the past years. Economic reset maybe? ;)

    Whatever the reasons, our common global health hasn't been one of them, that's become apparent now, nor any actual threat from some novel virus as they claim.

    Divinitywolf [2160704]

    Do you believe there are higher numbers of people in hospital with a respiratory illness since March 2020 or do you think the official numbers and the accounts from hospital workers are made up?

    Tyrion [1967379]

    I believe numbers remain the same on average of the past 10 years, yet certain statistics have been changed to fit a certain profile.

    There have been numerous medical professionals confirming this already, but easy to censor and also easy to scare the rest with ridicule and loss of their careers.

    The truth always has a nasty habit of coming out eventually though, so we'll see what happens.

    Meanwhile I haven't seen any ambulances daily here anywhere, apart from the normal amount in a heavy urban area for the past 2 years.

    With amazing scare & risk of this pandemic, I have yet to see anything actually happening irl, besides the media and politicians need for lockdowns and more "measures" all the time.

    So there's a certain discrepancy from the perception of the pandemic, versus what's actually happening all around us.

    Don't you feel you're being scammed somehow yourself then?

    It's not rocket science, just look around.

    No backload on funeral companies or crematoria, no healthcare services driving like crazy all day to attend to any "victims", no panic on the streets or in your local shops...

    Jesus, do I need to go on?

    Divinitywolf [2160704]

    I was just curious to hear your perspective.

    I personally know people that have worked in hospitals and specifically with covid patients in ICU wards. They've said how crazy hospitals have been and how many people have been on ventilators compared with normal times. This isn't unique to me. Many people either work in hospitals or know someone who works in hospitals and are hearing the same accounts across thousands of hospitals and many countries. Yes this is again anecdotal but there would have to be a reason why so many of these accounts agree with each other and the official narrative of covid.

    So in your view either:

    a) I'm lying
    b) The people I personally know working in hospitals are lying
    c) They're in on the conspiracy

    Also I did witness an increase in ambulances on the roads where I live. I did witness panic buying and food shortages. My friends have personally witnessed people dying on ventilators and people being treated in corridors because there were no free beds left in the hospitals. It's not just about what you personally see dude. That's flat earther logic where they say "I don't see a curve so there isn't one".

    Tyrion [1967379]

    Oh gawd, now I'm a flat earther even eh? haha

    What if hospitals were overrun by:

    1. Austerity measures over the past years, before "covid"

    2. Employees leaving because of the work pressure and also being sent home because of mild cold sympthoms (which could be some dreaded covid), leaving the already badly occupied parts of emergency services less capable.

    3. Postponed other medical procedures because of the lockdowns and scare, which accumalate quickly after a few months...

    4. Probably most important, intentionally bad medical procedures like putting people with respiratory diseases on ventilators or bad medication like Medisolam in the UK or Remdesivir in the US and prohibited other medications at the same time, which actually caused the deaths instead of some corona virus?

    So when it's obvious that these new Covid innoculations don't help you from either getting sick, nor prevent you from spreading the supposed virus, why do you keep on promoting it regardless?

    There's a huge amount of officially documented adverse reactions to this, while the actual recovery rate for most people is at 99.8% or higher even.

    Yet the first 2 jabs aren't enough now, governments are already talking about a 3rd jab and 4th even in Israel, Pfizer making pills even to take besides the jabs?

    What more proof do you need to simply see you're being scammed ffs, not like the government or any of these corporations care about you.

    I know it's a sad fact, but wake up.
    "What if hospitals were overrun by:

    1. Austerity measures over the past years, before "covid""

    Lol, you got zero evidence, and it happened worldwide, not every country has build down on healthcare, actually there are many countries that improved it, you just make this argument for the sake of having some kind of argument, it's fake though

    2. Employees leaving because of the work pressure and also being sent home because of mild cold sympthoms (which could be some dreaded covid), leaving the already badly occupied parts of emergency services less capable.

    Why do this same personal also claim there is a pandemic than? again, my girlfriend has cousins working at the local hospital and have seen it up closely, they weren't send home because they were really needed

    3. Postponed other medical procedures because of the lockdowns and scare, which accumalate quickly after a few months

    What are you even bringing up here, this is just crap

    4. Probably most important, intentionally bad medical procedures like putting people with respiratory diseases on ventilators or bad medication like Medisolam in the UK or Remdesivir in the US and prohibited other medications at the same time, which actually caused the deaths instead of some corona virus?

    Do you really believe medical personal worldwide are working together for some weird goal you have made up in your mind? Pretty idiotic if you'd ask me.
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    Posted on 14:34:30 - 06/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Divinitywolf [2160704]

    How was that a weird comparison? I responded directly to your post about not taking the flu vaccine and not getting sick for 20 years.

    I figured the point you were making was that because you hadn't got sick, the flu shot isn't needed. That's using the same anecdotal logic as my example. If I got your point wrong then please clarify.

    I think you've mentioned before but I can't remember. Why do you think vaccines are being promoted so much? I'm genuinely curious what you think the reasons are.

    Tyrion [1967379]

    The promotion of these vaccines could have lots of reasons, for one direct monetary gains through certain companies/institutions involved, secondly to justify political legislations and new totalitairian laws as can been seen in most countries in the past years. Economic reset maybe? ;)

    Whatever the reasons, our common global health hasn't been one of them, that's become apparent now, nor any actual threat from some novel virus as they claim.

    Divinitywolf [2160704]

    Do you believe there are higher numbers of people in hospital with a respiratory illness since March 2020 or do you think the official numbers and the accounts from hospital workers are made up?

    Tyrion [1967379]

    I believe numbers remain the same on average of the past 10 years, yet certain statistics have been changed to fit a certain profile.

    There have been numerous medical professionals confirming this already, but easy to censor and also easy to scare the rest with ridicule and loss of their careers.

    The truth always has a nasty habit of coming out eventually though, so we'll see what happens.

    Meanwhile I haven't seen any ambulances daily here anywhere, apart from the normal amount in a heavy urban area for the past 2 years.

    With amazing scare & risk of this pandemic, I have yet to see anything actually happening irl, besides the media and politicians need for lockdowns and more "measures" all the time.

    So there's a certain discrepancy from the perception of the pandemic, versus what's actually happening all around us.

    Don't you feel you're being scammed somehow yourself then?

    It's not rocket science, just look around.

    No backload on funeral companies or crematoria, no healthcare services driving like crazy all day to attend to any "victims", no panic on the streets or in your local shops...

    Jesus, do I need to go on?

    Divinitywolf [2160704]

    I was just curious to hear your perspective.

    I personally know people that have worked in hospitals and specifically with covid patients in ICU wards. They've said how crazy hospitals have been and how many people have been on ventilators compared with normal times. This isn't unique to me. Many people either work in hospitals or know someone who works in hospitals and are hearing the same accounts across thousands of hospitals and many countries. Yes this is again anecdotal but there would have to be a reason why so many of these accounts agree with each other and the official narrative of covid.

    So in your view either:

    a) I'm lying
    b) The people I personally know working in hospitals are lying
    c) They're in on the conspiracy

    Also I did witness an increase in ambulances on the roads where I live. I did witness panic buying and food shortages. My friends have personally witnessed people dying on ventilators and people being treated in corridors because there were no free beds left in the hospitals. It's not just about what you personally see dude. That's flat earther logic where they say "I don't see a curve so there isn't one".

    Tyrion [1967379]

    Oh gawd, now I'm a flat earther even eh? haha

    What if hospitals were overrun by:

    1. Austerity measures over the past years, before "covid"

    2. Employees leaving because of the work pressure and also being sent home because of mild cold sympthoms (which could be some dreaded covid), leaving the already badly occupied parts of emergency services less capable.

    3. Postponed other medical procedures because of the lockdowns and scare, which accumalate quickly after a few months...

    4. Probably most important, intentionally bad medical procedures like putting people with respiratory diseases on ventilators or bad medication like Medisolam in the UK or Remdesivir in the US and prohibited other medications at the same time, which actually caused the deaths instead of some corona virus?

    So when it's obvious that these new Covid innoculations don't help you from either getting sick, nor prevent you from spreading the supposed virus, why do you keep on promoting it regardless?

    There's a huge amount of officially documented adverse reactions to this, while the actual recovery rate for most people is at 99.8% or higher even.

    Yet the first 2 jabs aren't enough now, governments are already talking about a 3rd jab and 4th even in Israel, Pfizer making pills even to take besides the jabs?

    What more proof do you need to simply see you're being scammed ffs, not like the government or any of these corporations care about you.

    I know it's a sad fact, but wake up.
    You are very good at misinterpreting people's arguments to overdramatise stuff. I never called you a flat earther. I said using the logic that you described in your post when you said "It's not rocket science, just look around" is the same type of logic that flat earthers use. Just "looking around" is not a good way to figure out what is true. This is why we have the scientific method and peer review. 

    1. Not relevant. The spike in pressure on hospital beds that people witnessed corresponded with the spike in covid cases. When covid cases reduced, beds freed up and things became more manageable. There was a clear correlation.

    2. Staff shortages may have had a small contribution to the pressure for hospitals due to staff getting ill from covid or work pressure as you say. But the focus has generally been on the lack of beds when this has been talked about, not the number of staff.

    3. There are people struggling to get medical procedures because hospitals have been overrun. Where I live there were medical professionals in other fields being trained to take care of covid patients which took them away from their usual duties.

    4. Can you link me to evidence that using ventilators for respiratory illnesses was bad? I mean some of these people literally can't breath on their own... Bad medications causing deaths would require a huge cover up for this to have not been picked up by the thousands of doctors around the world who record these deaths.

    "So when it's obvious that these new Covid innoculations don't help you from either getting sick, nor prevent you from spreading the supposed virus, why do you keep on promoting it regardless?"

    Incorrect. Vaccines help reduce the likelihood of serious illness and can reduce transmission. Explain how countries with high vaccination rates are seeing far fewer deaths despite rising cases compared with last year? A country like the UK for example has had some significant spikes in cases in the last few months but the death rate is extremely low. The spike in cases is attributed to the easing of lockdown measures.

    "What more proof do you need to simply see you're being scammed ffs, not like the government or any of these corporations care about you."

    I find it ironic that you ask me what proof I need when you are the one that claims data is faked, an impossibly large and complex global conspiracy is happening and medical professionals can't be trusted. You deny the thousands of peer reviewed research that is publicly available and rely on logically fallacious arguments, bad assumptions, anecdotal evidence and apparently we are the ones that need to wake up.
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    Posted on 14:38:45 - 06/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    -El- [463504]

    Slow down cow tipper.

    This isn't 1921. It's 2021. You want to look up the info yourself, feel free

    Congrats on your immune system. Much respect to it.

    Here's where you're willfully stupid though: if you catch said virus, and you beat it, that's fine. However, if you actually pass it along to people, who's immune system isn't as good as yours, they're f**ked.

    You need a simple example where a 10 year old child can understand it? Sure...why not.

    People have allergies. I don't. People can be allergic to peanuts. I can sit up eating a jar of Jif peanut butter, chillin', and watch John Wick movies. I'm not going to be ignorant and offer someone allergic to it to get them sick or worse. See the point...or did you want to talk out your ass some more?

    Of course, since you come across as selfish as f**k, it wouldn't surprise me that you'd do something like that.

    Tyrion [1967379]

    I have some news for ya then Mr. Tipper, vaxed people spread it as well according to the authorities, so what's the difference again?

    Do explain why I'm selfish for trusting on my own immune system though and not risking any adverse reactions from some experimental whatever jabbed directly into my vains....

    -El- [463504]

    You never saw me say that vaxxed people can't spread it.

    Not once.

    It's impossible you're this stupid.

    What makes you selfish is that you can spread it, and with that callous attitude you have you'd give zero f**ks if you did.

    Tyrion [1967379]

    So why should I vaccinate then and why assume I don't give a shit?

    Seriously, I'll repeat then, why should I vaccinate?

    -El- [463504]



    You don't have to vaccinate, clown.

    I wasn't asking you to. That's a choice, YOU make. However, if you don't (and depending upon what state you're in), you may have limited opportunities. As far as travel, jobs, where you eat, etc.

    Now, if your comfort zone is simply staying around the house patting yourself on the back for how strong your immune system is, do you. If you get vaxxed, didn't get vaxxed, or died n the next 15 seconds I wouldn't care.

    If you don't believe this shit exists, and catch it. Cool. However, if you pass the shit along to someone with a weak immune system, that's something I have a problem with. And they could do the same. And so on and so on. How hard is it to understand everything I layed out to you? I don't care if you die from it. Yes, you personally.

    why assume I don't give a shit?

    Kinda like you assuming I want you to get jabbed?

    Tyrion [1967379]

    Oh now I'm a clown eh lmao

    I didn't ask you to comment to me on this thread regarding my body = my choice, so don't act all surprised here, as I've been quite clear on previous comment and statements.

    You and others go out of your way to convince others some urgency on being jabbed by some experimental cocktail, that can't even be classified as a vaccine, for some socalled threat that isn't here either.

    So yeah, I have a problem with that.

    Especially when people are dying or being disabled for life on the "side-effects" from it.
    Oh now I'm a clown eh lmao

    I can say worse, but it's a good day so far.

    I didn't ask you to comment to me on this thread regarding my body = my choice, so don't act all surprised here, as I've been quite clear on previous comment and statements.

    I chose to respond to you, you didn't have to ask. I even explained it to you. I see you're still an idiot.

    You and others go out of your way to convince others some urgency on being jabbed by some experimental cocktail, that can't even be classified as a vaccine, for some socalled threat that isn't here either.

    In my initial response to you, I said I hope you catch it. I still want you to. You can check if you need a moment of clarity.

    As far as me and others, nah. I want Darwinism to do it's thing. So if you catch it, and croak...I'm still having coffee in the morn. I'm not convincing you folks to get vaxxed. I personally don't want to be in the vicinity of you idiots, vaxxed or not.
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    Tyrion [1967379]

    Oh gawd the politics involved even...

    So glad to stay unvaccinated, goodluck with your 10th+ booster shot soon, or daily pills from Pfizer lmao

    No adverse reactions here :)

    My body, my choice.

    -El- [463504]

    I seriously hope you catch it.

    Tyrion [1967379]

    Maybe I have already, I've had a cold or 2 in the last few years...

    Recent Harvard study suggests I have more protection from Covid then through my natural immune system :)

    Imagine that eh, no shots or boosters needed even!
    You are the epitome of the Dunning Kreuger effect. You have an immune system but since you have neither been infected, nor have had a vaccine you would not have any natural immunity.

    At the end of the day, yes it is your body and your choice but holy shit dude quit while you're behind.
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    Posted on 22:49:30 - 06/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    People, why bother? If Tyrion doesn't want to get vaccinated, or wear a seat belt when he drives, or take any other safety measures, fine. 

    There was an article out today about a pair of identical twins, Bobby and Billy Ford who were born in 1962. One got vaccinated and one didn't. Covid hit their repair shop in July and everyone got it. The vaccinated one was sick at home for a few days then back to work. The unvaccinated one died in the hospital in August.

    That's not exactly a scientific study, but you can google it for yourself, it's in the news now.

    For people hitting P&L who aren't sure, or are worried about the safety of the vaccine, they're worth talking to. At least they have concerns that can be addressed. But the ones who are here all the time just trolling on anti-vax, just counter them once (in case new readers pop in and see it) and then move on.

    You're not going to change his mind. He's just having fun "owning the libs". It's not like anyone other than limpd agrees with him.
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    Posted on 22:52:16 - 06/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Tyrion [1967379]

    Oh gawd the politics involved even...

    So glad to stay unvaccinated, goodluck with your 10th+ booster shot soon, or daily pills from Pfizer lmao

    No adverse reactions here :)

    My body, my choice.

    -El- [463504]

    I seriously hope you catch it.

    Tyrion [1967379]

    Maybe I have already, I've had a cold or 2 in the last few years...

    Recent Harvard study suggests I have more protection from Covid then through my natural immune system :)

    Imagine that eh, no shots or boosters needed even!

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    You are the epitome of the Dunning Kreuger effect. You have an immune system but since you have neither been infected, nor have had a vaccine you would not have any natural immunity.

    At the end of the day, yes it is your body and your choice but holy shit dude quit while you're behind.
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    -El- [463504]

    Slow down cow tipper.

    This isn't 1921. It's 2021. You want to look up the info yourself, feel free

    Congrats on your immune system. Much respect to it.

    Here's where you're willfully stupid though: if you catch said virus, and you beat it, that's fine. However, if you actually pass it along to people, who's immune system isn't as good as yours, they're f**ked.

    You need a simple example where a 10 year old child can understand it? Sure...why not.

    People have allergies. I don't. People can be allergic to peanuts. I can sit up eating a jar of Jif peanut butter, chillin', and watch John Wick movies. I'm not going to be ignorant and offer someone allergic to it to get them sick or worse. See the point...or did you want to talk out your ass some more?

    Of course, since you come across as selfish as f**k, it wouldn't surprise me that you'd do something like that.

    Tyrion [1967379]

    I have some news for ya then Mr. Tipper, vaxed people spread it as well according to the authorities, so what's the difference again?

    Do explain why I'm selfish for trusting on my own immune system though and not risking any adverse reactions from some experimental whatever jabbed directly into my vains....

    -El- [463504]

    You never saw me say that vaxxed people can't spread it.

    Not once.

    It's impossible you're this stupid.

    What makes you selfish is that you can spread it, and with that callous attitude you have you'd give zero f**ks if you did.

    Tyrion [1967379]

    So why should I vaccinate then and why assume I don't give a shit?

    Seriously, I'll repeat then, why should I vaccinate?

    -El- [463504]



    You don't have to vaccinate, clown.

    I wasn't asking you to. That's a choice, YOU make. However, if you don't (and depending upon what state you're in), you may have limited opportunities. As far as travel, jobs, where you eat, etc.

    Now, if your comfort zone is simply staying around the house patting yourself on the back for how strong your immune system is, do you. If you get vaxxed, didn't get vaxxed, or died n the next 15 seconds I wouldn't care.

    If you don't believe this shit exists, and catch it. Cool. However, if you pass the shit along to someone with a weak immune system, that's something I have a problem with. And they could do the same. And so on and so on. How hard is it to understand everything I layed out to you? I don't care if you die from it. Yes, you personally.

    why assume I don't give a shit?

    Kinda like you assuming I want you to get jabbed?

    Tyrion [1967379]

    Oh now I'm a clown eh lmao

    I didn't ask you to comment to me on this thread regarding my body = my choice, so don't act all surprised here, as I've been quite clear on previous comment and statements.

    You and others go out of your way to convince others some urgency on being jabbed by some experimental cocktail, that can't even be classified as a vaccine, for some socalled threat that isn't here either.

    So yeah, I have a problem with that.

    Especially when people are dying or being disabled for life on the "side-effects" from it.
    You along with others are putting way too much energy into this. 

    Let those who watch and believe the Sinclair broadcast Group fall for another Iraq has weapons of mass destruction lie again.

    Misinformation at its finest.

    Just sit back and watch.

    Edit: This is for Tyrion, LimpD and others....
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    Posted on 18:17:01 - 09/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-15-studies-that-indicate-natural-immunity-from-prior-infection-is-more-robust-than-the-covid-vaccines
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    Posted on 18:33:04 - 09/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    You literally state an article from an anti vaxer lol

    Did you check the studies? Or you just want to see your bias confirmed? Did you read and understand the studies?
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    Posted on 18:39:53 - 09/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Tyrion [1967379]

    https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-15-studies-that-indicate-natural-immunity-from-prior-infection-is-more-robust-than-the-covid-vaccines

    Capgros [2088627]

    You literally state an article from an anti vaxer lol

    Did you check the studies? Or you just want to see your bias confirmed? Did you read and understand the studies?
    I've had many vaccinations in the past, stop labeling people eh
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    Posted on 18:41:02 - 09/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Tyrion [1967379]

    https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-15-studies-that-indicate-natural-immunity-from-prior-infection-is-more-robust-than-the-covid-vaccines

    Capgros [2088627]

    You literally state an article from an anti vaxer lol

    Did you check the studies? Or you just want to see your bias confirmed? Did you read and understand the studies?

    Tyrion [1967379]

    I've had many vaccinations in the past, stop labeling people eh
    I said the article is written by an anti vaxer Daniel Horowitz, with completely unbiased articles like 

    "Horowitz: The government’s dark and senseless war on ALL early treatment

    "Horowitz: Why is Pfizer – the leakiest vaccine – enjoying the most approval from government?"

    "Horowitz: No, N95s won’t stop the virus either"

    I prefer to get my information from researchers and medical personal than a grifter like that.
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    And? People can gain natural immunity from polio by contracting polio and recovering. Is that what people do? No, they get a vaccine because the potential risks are significantly less than contracting the virus naturally.

    Don't get me wrong, if having been previously infected provides comparable immunity to the vaccine, then I think that's awesome. However this is still a virus you should take seriously and has the potential to absolute mess people up. The state of Idaho recently activated a "Crisis Standard of Care" to start rationing healthcare due to COVID cases overwhelming their infrastructure.
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    I know a few people here who would jump on trains and go to vaccination protection camps If the Government told them too..

     

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    sin [771805]

    I know a few people here who would jump on trains and go to vaccination protection camps If the Government told them too..
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    sin [771805]

    I know a few people here who would jump on trains and go to vaccination protection camps If the Government told them too..
    i know quite a few trumpists who would do the same if trump told them.

    "Refusing to help a neighbor who's house burned down is shitty. Refusing when you helped start the fire is monstrous."

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    People, why bother? If Tyrion doesn't want to get vaccinated, or wear a seat belt when he drives, or take any other safety measures, fine.

    There was an article out today about a pair of identical twins, Bobby and Billy Ford who were born in 1962. One got vaccinated and one didn't. Covid hit their repair shop in July and everyone got it. The vaccinated one was sick at home for a few days then back to work. The unvaccinated one died in the hospital in August.

    That's not exactly a scientific study, but you can google it for yourself, it's in the news now.

    For people hitting P&L who aren't sure, or are worried about the safety of the vaccine, they're worth talking to. At least they have concerns that can be addressed. But the ones who are here all the time just trolling on anti-vax, just counter them once (in case new readers pop in and see it) and then move on.

    You're not going to change his mind. He's just having fun "owning the libs". It's not like anyone other than limpd agrees with him.
    Did you also read the unvaccinated man had diabetes and took medication for it? I read the same article... One was in shape the other wasn't.. Media is playing all kinds of dumb games with people. I personally won't get the chemical. Its to new to know wtf it does long term. I'll let everyone else be the guinea pigs.
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