Laughingman91 [2044206]

What questions do you have from this movie?
Did you love it or hate it?
What was the best and worst parts?
Did you get any answers for questions you still had from past movies?


It took me until now to figure out there was a kind of inception thing going on. I didn't understand how a random black guy could identify as morpheus, and then come out of the matrix and turn into a real human being lol.

My question is did that guy be a videogame, turned into a "real" man, and then into an exomorphic particle codex. (I think andromorph would be a better name).

It's a big question about identity I think. He was never born or a real human being lol. Did Neo just code a regular videogame character? Or an entire human being? Or something more than human? They said in the movie it was the most realistic videogame ever, many times. And it seems the Analyst was trying to trick and convince Neo he was just a crazy artist who needed pills.

Maybe the Analysts matrix just made Neo think he coded the videogame, but actually it was a real mini-matrix, and the guy who become morpheus was a real human being who transcended his mortal existence?

Bugs and Seq surmise that the Modal is some sort of sequencer or in a loop using old buggy code to repeatedly test and create a result of Morpheus. Bugs inside there commented that it was "like" the matrix but wrong, And surely it's more likely the Suits had Neo do this.

My question was how did the machines achieve a virtual machine old-matrix, inside the Analysts matrix. I thought before that all the humans were needed to power the machines, so the machines would die without the humans to power their existence with electrical energy. But now they have the old matrix running inside the new matrix like it's no big deal.

Surely if humans are escaping the matrix, just give it so many levels you think you broke out every time finally, but you didn't. Since we can have a matrix within a matrix now.

Laughingman91 [2044206]

What questions do you have from this movie?
Did you love it or hate it?
What was the best and worst parts?
Did you get any answers for questions you still had from past movies?


It took me until now to figure out there was a kind of inception thing going on. I didn't understand how a random black guy could identify as morpheus, and then come out of the matrix and turn into a real human being lol.

My question is did that guy be a videogame, turned into a "real" man, and then into an exomorphic particle codex. (I think andromorph would be a better name).

It's a big question about identity I think. He was never born or a real human being lol. Did Neo just code a regular videogame character? Or an entire human being? Or something more than human? They said in the movie it was the most realistic videogame ever, many times. And it seems the Analyst was trying to trick and convince Neo he was just a crazy artist who needed pills.

Maybe the Analysts matrix just made Neo think he coded the videogame, but actually it was a real mini-matrix, and the guy who become morpheus was a real human being who transcended his mortal existence?

Bugs and Seq surmise that the Modal is some sort of sequencer or in a loop using old buggy code to repeatedly test and create a result of Morpheus. Bugs inside there commented that it was "like" the matrix but wrong, And surely it's more likely the Suits had Neo do this.

My question was how did the machines achieve a virtual machine old-matrix, inside the Analysts matrix. I thought before that all the humans were needed to power the machines, so the machines would die without the humans to power their existence with electrical energy. But now they have the old matrix running inside the new matrix like it's no big deal.

Surely if humans are escaping the matrix, just give it so many levels you think you broke out every time finally, but you didn't. Since we can have a matrix within a matrix now.

S1rEv1l4ng3l [2637810]

"My question is did that guy be a videogame, turned into a "real" man, and then into an exomorphic particle codex. (I think andromorph would be a better name)."

New Morpheus wasn't the same character as the videogame. As far as I understood, and I have to see the movie again to be 100% sure, Neo made a modal (basically a copy running inside the og game) inside the videogame where some things were different, like Smith being actually Morpheus. Bugs and the others used the videogame to learn about Neo, so when they discovered the modal they entered to see what was going on.

They stated that at this point, and because of Neo's sacrifice, machines and programs were able to gain consciousness and awake like the machine that catches Neo and takes him to the ship, so Smith/Morpheus was awake and aware that he was in a simulation, he didn't knew however that he was in a modal. So she just red pilled him and took him out of the Matrix and into the ships hard drive, cuz again Morpheus was a program, and it communicates with the real world through the exomorphic particulates or whatever they are named.


"Maybe the Analysts matrix just made Neo think he coded the videogame, but actually it was a real mini-matrix"

Yes and no, the Therapist/Barney Stinson (if you saw HIMYM) created this matrix and gave a role of game designer and creator of the game to Neo just to troll him and actually torture him over and over. That's why Neo commited suicide and needed "therapy". Every time that Neo remembered who he was or stopped to take blue pills, the Therapist just made a small reset, using the cat hence the name "Deja Vu" like he did in that scene when Morpheus appears in the bathroom



"My question was how did the machines achieve a virtual machine old-matrix, inside the Analysts matrix. I thought before that all the humans were needed to power the machines, so the machines would die without the humans to power their existence with electrical energy. But now they have the old matrix running inside the new matrix like it's no big deal."

The therapist said that Neo and Trinity generated a huge amount of energy and that his matrix was more efficient than the one where the trilogy happened,. And the videogame was just another program, so yeah no problem there. Just think like it was Minecraft. Or a more modern comparison is like having a videogame inside the metaverse.


Do I love the movie? Yeah, I loved every damn second, it's funny to me how some people dislike it just because Bugs is the captain of the ship and Niobe being the leader of IO instead of being the love interest of two guys ?. The only weird thing was Trinity getting the one's powers but hey that was cool!



Did you get any answers for questions you still had from past movies? Some of my og questions are still there and I know now that they'll never be answered unless I finally get them after seeing the trilogy again and again. I actually have more questions now as Smith (man I missed my man Hugo Weaving in this one) said that there was a special connection between them and that they actually needed each other. Like I now that they are kind of a representation of the Ying Yang but I was like what?

But yeah, good movie. 8/10

Laughingman91 [2044206]

What questions do you have from this movie?
Did you love it or hate it?
What was the best and worst parts?
Did you get any answers for questions you still had from past movies?


It took me until now to figure out there was a kind of inception thing going on. I didn't understand how a random black guy could identify as morpheus, and then come out of the matrix and turn into a real human being lol.

My question is did that guy be a videogame, turned into a "real" man, and then into an exomorphic particle codex. (I think andromorph would be a better name).

It's a big question about identity I think. He was never born or a real human being lol. Did Neo just code a regular videogame character? Or an entire human being? Or something more than human? They said in the movie it was the most realistic videogame ever, many times. And it seems the Analyst was trying to trick and convince Neo he was just a crazy artist who needed pills.

Maybe the Analysts matrix just made Neo think he coded the videogame, but actually it was a real mini-matrix, and the guy who become morpheus was a real human being who transcended his mortal existence?

Bugs and Seq surmise that the Modal is some sort of sequencer or in a loop using old buggy code to repeatedly test and create a result of Morpheus. Bugs inside there commented that it was "like" the matrix but wrong, And surely it's more likely the Suits had Neo do this.

My question was how did the machines achieve a virtual machine old-matrix, inside the Analysts matrix. I thought before that all the humans were needed to power the machines, so the machines would die without the humans to power their existence with electrical energy. But now they have the old matrix running inside the new matrix like it's no big deal.

Surely if humans are escaping the matrix, just give it so many levels you think you broke out every time finally, but you didn't. Since we can have a matrix within a matrix now.

S1rEv1l4ng3l [2637810]

"My question is did that guy be a videogame, turned into a "real" man, and then into an exomorphic particle codex. (I think andromorph would be a better name)."

New Morpheus wasn't the same character as the videogame. As far as I understood, and I have to see the movie again to be 100% sure, Neo made a modal (basically a copy running inside the og game) inside the videogame where some things were different, like Smith being actually Morpheus. Bugs and the others used the videogame to learn about Neo, so when they discovered the modal they entered to see what was going on.

They stated that at this point, and because of Neo's sacrifice, machines and programs were able to gain consciousness and awake like the machine that catches Neo and takes him to the ship, so Smith/Morpheus was awake and aware that he was in a simulation, he didn't knew however that he was in a modal. So she just red pilled him and took him out of the Matrix and into the ships hard drive, cuz again Morpheus was a program, and it communicates with the real world through the exomorphic particulates or whatever they are named.


"Maybe the Analysts matrix just made Neo think he coded the videogame, but actually it was a real mini-matrix"

Yes and no, the Therapist/Barney Stinson (if you saw HIMYM) created this matrix and gave a role of game designer and creator of the game to Neo just to troll him and actually torture him over and over. That's why Neo commited suicide and needed "therapy". Every time that Neo remembered who he was or stopped to take blue pills, the Therapist just made a small reset, using the cat hence the name "Deja Vu" like he did in that scene when Morpheus appears in the bathroom



"My question was how did the machines achieve a virtual machine old-matrix, inside the Analysts matrix. I thought before that all the humans were needed to power the machines, so the machines would die without the humans to power their existence with electrical energy. But now they have the old matrix running inside the new matrix like it's no big deal."

The therapist said that Neo and Trinity generated a huge amount of energy and that his matrix was more efficient than the one where the trilogy happened,. And the videogame was just another program, so yeah no problem there. Just think like it was Minecraft. Or a more modern comparison is like having a videogame inside the metaverse.


Do I love the movie? Yeah, I loved every damn second, it's funny to me how some people dislike it just because Bugs is the captain of the ship and Niobe being the leader of IO instead of being the love interest of two guys ?. The only weird thing was Trinity getting the one's powers but hey that was cool!



Did you get any answers for questions you still had from past movies? Some of my og questions are still there and I know now that they'll never be answered unless I finally get them after seeing the trilogy again and again. I actually have more questions now as Smith (man I missed my man Hugo Weaving in this one) said that there was a special connection between them and that they actually needed each other. Like I now that they are kind of a representation of the Ying Yang but I was like what?

But yeah, good movie. 8/10

Laughingman91 [2044206]

The therapist said that Neo and Trinity generated a huge amount of energy and that his matrix was more efficient

LOL I totally forgot this part happened and it was a key feature of the plot as well! I guess there were no sudden consequences removing neo from that close location with trinity. And even trinity gets removed as well lol. You'd think there'd be more of an energy problem because of that but I guess not.

I saw someone online commented that originally the Wachowski sisters disagreed on the movie, and one of them dropped out, and the movie was nearly cancelled. But Lana Wachowski continued anyway, so what we have is some mutant movie with the same name "Matrix 4", but not anything like originally planned. I'm not totally dissatisfied with this movie; it's full of pop cultury tropeyness, and there was a solid chunk of the first half that was all flashbacks and footage of the previous movies. Like if you try and make a movie based on a movie but you can't come up with something new and equally exciting, so you just show a flashback to keep people entertained?

I dunno. I do wish we could've had no global virus interrupt the Matrix 4, and really got that prime movie, just to know how good it could've been. I think this is partly why Hugo Weaving rejected the movie. I seen in interviews with him explaining he really doesn't like how people have taken the ideas from his movies like Matrix and V for vendetta and made them icons for redpill perspective politics, or the Anonymous mask that shows up anywhere nothing good is going on. And he's a massive hippy who just wants everyone to magically get along; so I guess he's done with the Matrix cos he's worried people people from some section of politics he doesn't like will pick up on it. Which I kinda get, but it's nothing to do with him as an actor, and everything to do with those characters. Oh well.