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    Indubitably [2117849]

    I love this show, and taking the show for what it is, leaving all book plots aside this episode still fell so flat for me. The reason game of thrones is good is because very early on it established and then abided by, a very consistent rule set. Actions have consequence. No one is coming to save you. Let’s look at a parallel between season one and season eight.

    Season one, Ned Stark. Stabbed in the leg, limps and walks with a cane for the remainder of his life. He is then betrayed, surrounded by his enemies and executed. As show watchers and book readers we waited for someone to save him. He has to survive, he is the hero, the good man, the main character. We were taught then that that doesn’t matter. You die if you are surrounded by your enemies. Your injuries last. Dues ex machina does not exist.

    Season eight, Jon Snow. Falls hundreds of feet out of the sky on a (dead? dying? injured?) dragon. Pops onto his feet unscathed. The night king raises the dead around him. These enemies were established in earlier seasons as absolutely terrifying. A single wight almost kills him and Jeor Mormont, and Jon almost loses the use of his hand to kill it. He is now surrounded by possibly thousands of them. Yet he lives.

    Not only does he live. He runs through the entire army of undead without a hiccup, and then faces down an undead dragon alone. Let’s give him a pass?

    Dany has a literal flying fire breathing dragon. Then Dany is surrounded only to be saved by Jorah f**king Mormont. Wasn’t he just trapped fighting for his life in winterfell? I mean does an army of tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of wights mean nothing? He just ran through miles of undead to be at the exact place at the exact time to save Dany? I could go beat by beat through the main characters and every single one of them should have died several times tonight. I’m not saying I want them all to die or that they should have story wise, but don’t put them in that position if you aren’t willing to follow through with it.

    Come on. Game of thrones is supposed to have consequences for your actions. Gandalf does the appear in the east on the third day. You can’t establish rules that you abide by for seven seasons to say f**k it and throw it all out the window without it ruining it all. This episode had amazing visuals. Amazing music. An amazing set. Yet the storytelling was just awful.

    The show has become the antithesis of itself. Everything that made the in show universe logical, captivating and exhilarating are gone.
    It has become the storybook it tried so hard to subvert.
    I totally understand what you mean and kinda feel the same way myself. Was definitely expecting main characters to die and they should have at many occasions. But i still think i would like it better if these characters died at the hands of someone other than some white walker. Their death will be sadder and more emotional if they were killed by other humans with motive. I m not sure if arya just sneaking up on all the white walkers and killing the NK makes sense but i definitely enjoyed it. It wasn't a typical GOT episode, the hero (jon snow) didn't save the day, no one died when they should have and that s more surprising. Bran didn't do shit even though him and the NK meeting should have been the most important scene in the whole show but i hope there s more to it so i wont address that issue till i see the next episodes. 
    No one is gonna read that but it s there.
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    Indubitably [2117849]

    I love this show, and taking the show for what it is, leaving all book plots aside this episode still fell so flat for me. The reason game of thrones is good is because very early on it established and then abided by, a very consistent rule set. Actions have consequence. No one is coming to save you. Let’s look at a parallel between season one and season eight.

    Season one, Ned Stark. Stabbed in the leg, limps and walks with a cane for the remainder of his life. He is then betrayed, surrounded by his enemies and executed. As show watchers and book readers we waited for someone to save him. He has to survive, he is the hero, the good man, the main character. We were taught then that that doesn’t matter. You die if you are surrounded by your enemies. Your injuries last. Dues ex machina does not exist.

    Season eight, Jon Snow. Falls hundreds of feet out of the sky on a (dead? dying? injured?) dragon. Pops onto his feet unscathed. The night king raises the dead around him. These enemies were established in earlier seasons as absolutely terrifying. A single wight almost kills him and Jeor Mormont, and Jon almost loses the use of his hand to kill it. He is now surrounded by possibly thousands of them. Yet he lives.

    Not only does he live. He runs through the entire army of undead without a hiccup, and then faces down an undead dragon alone. Let’s give him a pass?

    Dany has a literal flying fire breathing dragon. Then Dany is surrounded only to be saved by Jorah f**king Mormont. Wasn’t he just trapped fighting for his life in winterfell? I mean does an army of tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of wights mean nothing? He just ran through miles of undead to be at the exact place at the exact time to save Dany? I could go beat by beat through the main characters and every single one of them should have died several times tonight. I’m not saying I want them all to die or that they should have story wise, but don’t put them in that position if you aren’t willing to follow through with it.

    Come on. Game of thrones is supposed to have consequences for your actions. Gandalf does the appear in the east on the third day. You can’t establish rules that you abide by for seven seasons to say f**k it and throw it all out the window without it ruining it all. This episode had amazing visuals. Amazing music. An amazing set. Yet the storytelling was just awful.

    The show has become the antithesis of itself. Everything that made the in show universe logical, captivating and exhilarating are gone.
    It has become the storybook it tried so hard to subvert.

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    I totally understand what you mean and kinda feel the same way myself. Was definitely expecting main characters to die and they should have at many occasions. But i still think i would like it better if these characters died at the hands of someone other than some white walker. Their death will be sadder and more emotional if they were killed by other humans with motive. I m not sure if arya just sneaking up on all the white walkers and killing the NK makes sense but i definitely enjoyed it. It wasn't a typical GOT episode, the hero (jon snow) didn't save the day, no one died when they should have and that s more surprising. Bran didn't do shit even though him and the NK meeting should have been the most important scene in the whole show but i hope there s more to it so i wont address that issue till i see the next episodes.
    No one is gonna read that but it s there.
    I read it, thanks for posting an opinion. I don't need to agree with it, but it's still interesting to read nonetheless.

    It seems there's 3 different people who watch GoT.

    Those who enjoyed the first seasons and hate the hollywood version we're seeing now.

    Those who casually watch but are still interested in things making sense but don't care too much.

    Those who just watch for entertainment... Could care less if anything is realistic and eat up hollywood tropes/cliches.
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    Posted on 13:13:44 - 30/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    Making of S 8 ep 3

    They pretty much expalin the thrust of the episode as being in certain parts like differing horror genres. You have the suspense of the unknown in the opening when the Dothraki are killed. Then the big field battle against the horde of wights being an action scene. In the library with Arya and the other undead was a suspense scene where she has to be ultra quiet to escape with her life.

    I won't go blow by blow with the content just watch the vid. As plot goes, yes it wasn't mind blowing, but they spent 55 days of night shooting to make this. Give them some damned credit!
     
     

     

     
     
     
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    Posted on 13:24:12 - 30/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    I don't know who was the one giving the commands during the battle, but I'm pretty sure the person didn't have any fighting experience. That was the worst possible defense of a castle ever. 

    "There's a huge amount of undead over there in the dark where we can't see them. Let's send the cavalry to attack them head on and see what happens."

    "Let's put the catapults in the front rank so they can shoot once during the whole battle."

    "Let's look at all those undead standing still in front of a trench on fire, but don't shoot a flaming arrow, they might get hurt."

    "The undead are climbing the walls! Let's just put one line of defenders on the walls to defend it. We only have a 10k army, so why would we put more than a dozen on the wall?"

    Episode was very well made. Too bad it killed 7 seasons of great storyline.
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    Posted on 13:28:47 - 30/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    OK, the adrenaline has finally worn off. As epic as this episode was to watch (I really did love it), it really did suck when you look back on the last 8 seasons for context.
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    This Will Maybe Lighten the Mood
     
     

     

     
     
     
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    Posted on 13:52:39 - 30/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    It was dark as hell I thought I was going blind and the plot armour was just insane 

    For how long they built up the white walkers it just wasn't a satisfying death

    I know it's called Game of thrones but I just can't imagine Cersie putting up a better fight than the knight king 
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    This was the best 80 minutes of TV I have ever seen. Stop trying to dig into the logic of a show whose central characters are dragons and zombies

    I beat you, twice. That means I'm better than you are, and everybody knows it because I beat you again. Every time somebody tells this story, and they'll all say they won't tell it but they will. That's the story that will be told, again and again until you're dead... and after you're dead... I beat you forever.

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    I can't believe hordor is a whyte and killed bran stark
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    Indubitably [2117849]

    I love this show, and taking the show for what it is, leaving all book plots aside this episode still fell so flat for me. The reason game of thrones is good is because very early on it established and then abided by, a very consistent rule set. Actions have consequence. No one is coming to save you. Let’s look at a parallel between season one and season eight.

    Season one, Ned Stark. Stabbed in the leg, limps and walks with a cane for the remainder of his life. He is then betrayed, surrounded by his enemies and executed. As show watchers and book readers we waited for someone to save him. He has to survive, he is the hero, the good man, the main character. We were taught then that that doesn’t matter. You die if you are surrounded by your enemies. Your injuries last. Dues ex machina does not exist.

    Season eight, Jon Snow. Falls hundreds of feet out of the sky on a (dead? dying? injured?) dragon. Pops onto his feet unscathed. The night king raises the dead around him. These enemies were established in earlier seasons as absolutely terrifying. A single wight almost kills him and Jeor Mormont, and Jon almost loses the use of his hand to kill it. He is now surrounded by possibly thousands of them. Yet he lives.

    Not only does he live. He runs through the entire army of undead without a hiccup, and then faces down an undead dragon alone. Let’s give him a pass?

    Dany has a literal flying fire breathing dragon. Then Dany is surrounded only to be saved by Jorah f**king Mormont. Wasn’t he just trapped fighting for his life in winterfell? I mean does an army of tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of wights mean nothing? He just ran through miles of undead to be at the exact place at the exact time to save Dany? I could go beat by beat through the main characters and every single one of them should have died several times tonight. I’m not saying I want them all to die or that they should have story wise, but don’t put them in that position if you aren’t willing to follow through with it.

    Come on. Game of thrones is supposed to have consequences for your actions. Gandalf does the appear in the east on the third day. You can’t establish rules that you abide by for seven seasons to say f**k it and throw it all out the window without it ruining it all. This episode had amazing visuals. Amazing music. An amazing set. Yet the storytelling was just awful.

    The show has become the antithesis of itself. Everything that made the in show universe logical, captivating and exhilarating are gone.
    It has become the storybook it tried so hard to subvert.
    >Jon Snow. Falls hundreds of feet out of the sky on a (dead? dying? injured?) dragon. Pops onto his feet unscathed.  
      
    He is on a dragon, and rides the dragon down. He doesn't fall and land directly on the ground.  
      
    >He is now surrounded by possibly thousands of them. Yet he lives.

    Crazy what years of knowledge, different weapons, and an entirely different situation can do. You are comparing an apple to an orange, and complaining it isn't a banana...  
      
    >He runs through the entire army of undead without a hiccup, and then faces down an undead dragon alone. Let’s give him a pass?
      
    You mean that was being raised? When the dragon queen saves him? Or when he enters the castle and runs around hiding behind walls? In the scene with the dragon, that was his life. He thought he was going to die fighting the dragon. 
      
    >Then Dany is surrounded only to be saved by Jorah f**king Mormont. Wasn’t he just trapped fighting for his life in winterfell?  
      
    Yea, she went out and saved Jon. Yes, and they were on the otherside of the eternal flames in the trench. Right outside the walls, where mormont had been fighting the entire time.  
      

    >I mean does an army of tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of wights mean nothing? He just ran through miles of undead to be at the exact place at the exact time to save Dany?
      
    Sounds like you're more of a fan-boy in disagreement. This is called "story-writing".   
      
    >I could go beat by beat through the main characters and every single one of them should have died several times tonight. I’m not saying I want them all to die or that they should have story wise, but don’t put them in that position if you aren’t willing to follow through with it.
      
    Are you in disagreement with how they kept some heroes around for some of the final three episodes? I believe this episode did a good job of harnessing those anxious moments. Several got very close.  
       
    >The reason game of thrones is good is because very early on it established and then abided by, a very consistent rule set. Actions have consequence. No one is coming to save you. Let’s look at a parallel between season one and season eight
      
    So a good show never evolves for you? You just want more of the same right to the end? It sounds like you wanted a story where the viewer plugs in, and then plugs out without any lesson/moral/peak ending, etc.   
      
    >then arya killing the night king, 8 seasons summed up with arya leaping from where? a tree? off the shoulder of a white walker? they heavily foreshadowed it prior it to it happening, but how does it make sense?  
      
    Uh. This breaks your suspension in belief? the highly trained silent killer, doing a silent kill? Have you not seen the other impossible things Arya has done?   
      
    She ran through the library, and through some of the tunnels to go through the secret door (seen in season 2 i believe). The young boys had used it. That's where Clegane had saved her. And it's all kind of poetic. Killing the night king with the knife Bran gave her, after getting the prophecy from the Fire priestess. and Clegane's friend with 9 lives pulling a Hodor, to Theon sacrificing himself, the final action that separates the nightking from the rest of the crew.  
      

    I think some of your confusion might be in the setup of the castle. They vastly increased it's size, and so some of the war setup looked small in some scenes, and large in others. Gave a weird sense of timings. For example Clegane goes to save Arya, but only gets to her after a lengthy Hide and seek in the library? Weird. 
     
    We all knew this last season was going to be rushed in places.   
     
    I disagree with you that this story needs to go down the same path as the beginning. I believe the beginning was set as so to show the start of all of the events taking place. at this point in time in the episodes, we are seeing some hope. Some main characters survived, the night walkers are seemingly dead, and the 3 eyed-raven still lives. They still have an entire other mountain to climb facing Cersei, Losing other main fighters and characters would mean even barer-bones of episodes for the last three. 
     
    This allows them to continue with fearful "we can lose anyone anytime", and still provide a good story for the last 3 episodes, even if they are rushed in areas of the storytelling. 
     
    It just sounds like you are upset with the episode/this season because its not being told the way you expected. It might better for you to wait for the book to see how the storyteller wants it told.     
      

      

      



      

      
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    I'd love to but I don't really have the energy to get into huge debates about plot holes and plot armour and nonsense storytelling so I'll just leave my absolute favourite comment after this episode:

    "On a scale from Bran to Arya, how much do you contribute to group projects?"
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    Posted on 14:56:49 - 30/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    I just hope Tormund gets to have giant ape sex with Brienne after this war.

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    I just hope Tormund gets to have giant ape sex with Brienne after this war.
    Or a three way including Jamie?
     
     

     

     
     
     
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    They kinda lead up to arya sneaking up on people throughout the last 2 seasons. Even Jaqen would appear out of no where randomly with the powers of the many faced god.

    Main characters, exceptional fighters LMAO did you want all of them to die with 3 1 hour 22 mins episodes left? I would argue that jorah is a main semi main character I definitely didnt think he was going to die. 

     I definitely thought greyworm was going to die and brienne.  I knew jon wasn't but I also though he was gonna deliver the killing blow. 

    I just watched the inside of HBO. The directors didn't want ALL fighting because that would get all old quick so they broke it down into parts.

    Just curious for episode to be good what did you want to see?

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    You didn't argue any of my points but instead just said random things. You think Arya teleporting is a sufficient explanation for how she killed the Night King? If that's what you think is okay, then there really isn't any point to discuss anything with you. 8 seasons led up to "teleportation" - is this anime or Game of Thrones?

    Main characters are not "exceptional" fighters - they had plot armor. It doesn't matter how good you are, the opening scene they were overrun by a 2 foot story of undead white walkers yet walked out unscathed. Scenes would open with them in disastrous positions and cut back to them just fighting 1 white walker. For instance, Dany had 4 white walkers charge her. They cut back to her, and it was only 1. If this only happened once I'd be okay, but it happened to EVERY SINGLE MAIN CHARACTER.

    But sure, I don't think that'll change your mind so I'll switch to another topic I'm annoyed with. Bran.

    What does Bran even do? He did nothing this whole time. It's like the writers didn't know what to do with him other than leave him as a "lure". But what even is he to the Night King and why did he want him to die? The Night King is dead and we still don't know... What did he follow with his birds? Like nothing about that entire arc makes sense and still doesn't. His character is reduced to the guy who stares at people. Why did we follow him around for countless seasons? This was when they followed the books, and they obviously have no clue what the f**k to do with him.

    Don't ask me what I'd do to make it "good" - I'm speaking on the episode I WATCHED. I'm not a writer, nor did I have 2 years to come up with it and I wasn't paid to do it. There is a reason George R. R. Martin hasn't finished the books for 8 years and counting. He has no f**king clue how to tie all these story lines together - and Game of Thrones did it very badly.

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    She is an assassin, if were going the realistic route why the hell can she look and talk exactly like anyone who face she takes (anime lol) I also suppose everyone should have died in the episode when they went beyond the wall lol. It's a TV show it's not going to be perfect.

    Theyre also other stories to tell not just the night kings. I'm sorry you didnt like the episode though. I loved  it 
    What makes arya an assassin? Is it because they show runners told you she is? Or was it that staff fighting montage? Or maybe the time they told her that poison kills people? She never had assassin training. It didnt happen. She was also never taught anything about how to use faces. She just magically started doing it and everyone clapped instead of thinking. 

    This is why tv has been trash for a few decades. Way to many people had critical thinking beaten out of them by the public school system.

    Dothraki go on an unsupported charge at an enemy they currently cannot even see in one of the worst tactical errors i have seen in anything and people just go "that is an awesome shot". They also had their artillery position in front of their army. Teenagers playing RTS games have better tactics than this battle did. 

    I cant find a single thing about this episode that actually made sense. 
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    The episode was fine, nowadays it's just fun to moan and bitch about everything. It's annoying.

    Cersei was always going to be the main villain and when the show ends they will be making another show about the white walkers and the night King, I believe its a prequel.
    If you think cersei being the main villain makes sense then you never understood game of thrones to begin with.

     

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    -Jay- [2234445]

    They kinda lead up to arya sneaking up on people throughout the last 2 seasons. Even Jaqen would appear out of no where randomly with the powers of the many faced god.

    Main characters, exceptional fighters LMAO did you want all of them to die with 3 1 hour 22 mins episodes left? I would argue that jorah is a main semi main character I definitely didnt think he was going to die. 

     I definitely thought greyworm was going to die and brienne.  I knew jon wasn't but I also though he was gonna deliver the killing blow. 

    I just watched the inside of HBO. The directors didn't want ALL fighting because that would get all old quick so they broke it down into parts.

    Just curious for episode to be good what did you want to see?

    Indubitably [2117849]

    You didn't argue any of my points but instead just said random things. You think Arya teleporting is a sufficient explanation for how she killed the Night King? If that's what you think is okay, then there really isn't any point to discuss anything with you. 8 seasons led up to "teleportation" - is this anime or Game of Thrones?

    Main characters are not "exceptional" fighters - they had plot armor. It doesn't matter how good you are, the opening scene they were overrun by a 2 foot story of undead white walkers yet walked out unscathed. Scenes would open with them in disastrous positions and cut back to them just fighting 1 white walker. For instance, Dany had 4 white walkers charge her. They cut back to her, and it was only 1. If this only happened once I'd be okay, but it happened to EVERY SINGLE MAIN CHARACTER.

    But sure, I don't think that'll change your mind so I'll switch to another topic I'm annoyed with. Bran.

    What does Bran even do? He did nothing this whole time. It's like the writers didn't know what to do with him other than leave him as a "lure". But what even is he to the Night King and why did he want him to die? The Night King is dead and we still don't know... What did he follow with his birds? Like nothing about that entire arc makes sense and still doesn't. His character is reduced to the guy who stares at people. Why did we follow him around for countless seasons? This was when they followed the books, and they obviously have no clue what the f**k to do with him.

    Don't ask me what I'd do to make it "good" - I'm speaking on the episode I WATCHED. I'm not a writer, nor did I have 2 years to come up with it and I wasn't paid to do it. There is a reason George R. R. Martin hasn't finished the books for 8 years and counting. He has no f**king clue how to tie all these story lines together - and Game of Thrones did it very badly.

    -Jay- [2234445]

    She is an assassin, if were going the realistic route why the hell can she look and talk exactly like anyone who face she takes (anime lol) I also suppose everyone should have died in the episode when they went beyond the wall lol. It's a TV show it's not going to be perfect.

    Theyre also other stories to tell not just the night kings. I'm sorry you didnt like the episode though. I loved  it 

    Ecks [335191]

    What makes arya an assassin? Is it because they show runners told you she is? Or was it that staff fighting montage? Or maybe the time they told her that poison kills people? She never had assassin training. It didnt happen. She was also never taught anything about how to use faces. She just magically started doing it and everyone clapped instead of thinking.

    This is why tv has been trash for a few decades. Way to many people had critical thinking beaten out of them by the public school system.

    Dothraki go on an unsupported charge at an enemy they currently cannot even see in one of the worst tactical errors i have seen in anything and people just go "that is an awesome shot". They also had their artillery position in front of their army. Teenagers playing RTS games have better tactics than this battle did. 

    I cant find a single thing about this episode that actually made sense. 
    do you even follow the show?
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    -Jay- [2234445]

    They kinda lead up to arya sneaking up on people throughout the last 2 seasons. Even Jaqen would appear out of no where randomly with the powers of the many faced god.

    Main characters, exceptional fighters LMAO did you want all of them to die with 3 1 hour 22 mins episodes left? I would argue that jorah is a main semi main character I definitely didnt think he was going to die. 

     I definitely thought greyworm was going to die and brienne.  I knew jon wasn't but I also though he was gonna deliver the killing blow. 

    I just watched the inside of HBO. The directors didn't want ALL fighting because that would get all old quick so they broke it down into parts.

    Just curious for episode to be good what did you want to see?

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    You didn't argue any of my points but instead just said random things. You think Arya teleporting is a sufficient explanation for how she killed the Night King? If that's what you think is okay, then there really isn't any point to discuss anything with you. 8 seasons led up to "teleportation" - is this anime or Game of Thrones?

    Main characters are not "exceptional" fighters - they had plot armor. It doesn't matter how good you are, the opening scene they were overrun by a 2 foot story of undead white walkers yet walked out unscathed. Scenes would open with them in disastrous positions and cut back to them just fighting 1 white walker. For instance, Dany had 4 white walkers charge her. They cut back to her, and it was only 1. If this only happened once I'd be okay, but it happened to EVERY SINGLE MAIN CHARACTER.

    But sure, I don't think that'll change your mind so I'll switch to another topic I'm annoyed with. Bran.

    What does Bran even do? He did nothing this whole time. It's like the writers didn't know what to do with him other than leave him as a "lure". But what even is he to the Night King and why did he want him to die? The Night King is dead and we still don't know... What did he follow with his birds? Like nothing about that entire arc makes sense and still doesn't. His character is reduced to the guy who stares at people. Why did we follow him around for countless seasons? This was when they followed the books, and they obviously have no clue what the f**k to do with him.

    Don't ask me what I'd do to make it "good" - I'm speaking on the episode I WATCHED. I'm not a writer, nor did I have 2 years to come up with it and I wasn't paid to do it. There is a reason George R. R. Martin hasn't finished the books for 8 years and counting. He has no f**king clue how to tie all these story lines together - and Game of Thrones did it very badly.

    -Jay- [2234445]

    She is an assassin, if were going the realistic route why the hell can she look and talk exactly like anyone who face she takes (anime lol) I also suppose everyone should have died in the episode when they went beyond the wall lol. It's a TV show it's not going to be perfect.

    Theyre also other stories to tell not just the night kings. I'm sorry you didnt like the episode though. I loved  it 

    Ecks [335191]

    What makes arya an assassin? Is it because they show runners told you she is? Or was it that staff fighting montage? Or maybe the time they told her that poison kills people? She never had assassin training. It didnt happen. She was also never taught anything about how to use faces. She just magically started doing it and everyone clapped instead of thinking.

    This is why tv has been trash for a few decades. Way to many people had critical thinking beaten out of them by the public school system.

    Dothraki go on an unsupported charge at an enemy they currently cannot even see in one of the worst tactical errors i have seen in anything and people just go "that is an awesome shot". They also had their artillery position in front of their army. Teenagers playing RTS games have better tactics than this battle did. 

    I cant find a single thing about this episode that actually made sense. 

    -Jay- [2234445]

    do you even follow the show?
    What is your point? How does an assassin training her in the art of the staff make her a master assassin? If a tailor teaches me how to make cheese am i a master tailor?

     

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    They kinda lead up to arya sneaking up on people throughout the last 2 seasons. Even Jaqen would appear out of no where randomly with the powers of the many faced god.

    Main characters, exceptional fighters LMAO did you want all of them to die with 3 1 hour 22 mins episodes left? I would argue that jorah is a main semi main character I definitely didnt think he was going to die. 

     I definitely thought greyworm was going to die and brienne.  I knew jon wasn't but I also though he was gonna deliver the killing blow. 

    I just watched the inside of HBO. The directors didn't want ALL fighting because that would get all old quick so they broke it down into parts.

    Just curious for episode to be good what did you want to see?

    Indubitably [2117849]

    You didn't argue any of my points but instead just said random things. You think Arya teleporting is a sufficient explanation for how she killed the Night King? If that's what you think is okay, then there really isn't any point to discuss anything with you. 8 seasons led up to "teleportation" - is this anime or Game of Thrones?

    Main characters are not "exceptional" fighters - they had plot armor. It doesn't matter how good you are, the opening scene they were overrun by a 2 foot story of undead white walkers yet walked out unscathed. Scenes would open with them in disastrous positions and cut back to them just fighting 1 white walker. For instance, Dany had 4 white walkers charge her. They cut back to her, and it was only 1. If this only happened once I'd be okay, but it happened to EVERY SINGLE MAIN CHARACTER.

    But sure, I don't think that'll change your mind so I'll switch to another topic I'm annoyed with. Bran.

    What does Bran even do? He did nothing this whole time. It's like the writers didn't know what to do with him other than leave him as a "lure". But what even is he to the Night King and why did he want him to die? The Night King is dead and we still don't know... What did he follow with his birds? Like nothing about that entire arc makes sense and still doesn't. His character is reduced to the guy who stares at people. Why did we follow him around for countless seasons? This was when they followed the books, and they obviously have no clue what the f**k to do with him.

    Don't ask me what I'd do to make it "good" - I'm speaking on the episode I WATCHED. I'm not a writer, nor did I have 2 years to come up with it and I wasn't paid to do it. There is a reason George R. R. Martin hasn't finished the books for 8 years and counting. He has no f**king clue how to tie all these story lines together - and Game of Thrones did it very badly.

    -Jay- [2234445]

    She is an assassin, if were going the realistic route why the hell can she look and talk exactly like anyone who face she takes (anime lol) I also suppose everyone should have died in the episode when they went beyond the wall lol. It's a TV show it's not going to be perfect.

    Theyre also other stories to tell not just the night kings. I'm sorry you didnt like the episode though. I loved  it 

    Ecks [335191]

    What makes arya an assassin? Is it because they show runners told you she is? Or was it that staff fighting montage? Or maybe the time they told her that poison kills people? She never had assassin training. It didnt happen. She was also never taught anything about how to use faces. She just magically started doing it and everyone clapped instead of thinking.

    This is why tv has been trash for a few decades. Way to many people had critical thinking beaten out of them by the public school system.

    Dothraki go on an unsupported charge at an enemy they currently cannot even see in one of the worst tactical errors i have seen in anything and people just go "that is an awesome shot". They also had their artillery position in front of their army. Teenagers playing RTS games have better tactics than this battle did. 

    I cant find a single thing about this episode that actually made sense. 

    -Jay- [2234445]

    do you even follow the show?

    Ecks [335191]

    What is your point? How does an assassin training her in the art of the staff make her a master assassin? If a tailor teaches me how to make cheese am i a master tailor?
    That is an excellent point.
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    Posted on 03:55:02 - 01/05/19 (2 years ago)
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    If we are going to look at this from a realistic point of view you can literally find plot amour in any TV or movie you want.
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