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    Posted on 11:00:38 - 29/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    Okay, but what happened to Ghost though?

    Indubitably [2117849]

    He magically got out unscathed. They didn't show it but he's in the next episodes preview... Why was he on the front line anyway? Shouldn't he have been in the crypt protecting them?

    Guess that would have cost more money in CGI though.

    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    ghost isnt CGI. its a real dog. just smaller than its made to look.

    Indubitably [2117849]

    The only time Ghost wasn't CGI was in Season 1. Everything past that and CGI was used(they still used a wolf). You need post-production editing, and then a LOT of CGI. To put him in the crypt where he should have been would have cost a lot of money.

    Ghost has actually been cut from the script for the past few seasons because of how much money it costs. An article if you're interested:

    https://www.elle.com.au/culture/why-game-of-thrones-keeps-cutting-out-direwolf-scenes-13902


    Here's some pictures if you're interested.



    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    nah theres several shots where they only made some color correction and used different camera angles for the wolves.

    Indubitably [2117849]

    I guess the producers of Game of Thrones don't know as much as you.

    I think you might have done a better job than they did this episode anyway.
    im sorry but its not really a secret that most of the shots featuring the wolves are just camera tricks. the directors know what you are doing. you dont.

    "Refusing to help a neighbor who's house burned down is shitty. Refusing when you helped start the fire is monstrous."

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    Posted on 11:02:52 - 29/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    The episode was fine, nowadays it's just fun to moan and bitch about everything. It's annoying. 

    Cersei was always going to be the main villain and when the show ends they will be making another show about the white walkers and the night King, I believe its a prequel.
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    Posted on 11:25:33 - 29/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    Indubitably [2117849]

    He magically got out unscathed. They didn't show it but he's in the next episodes preview... Why was he on the front line anyway? Shouldn't he have been in the crypt protecting them?

    Guess that would have cost more money in CGI though.

    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    ghost isnt CGI. its a real dog. just smaller than its made to look.

    Indubitably [2117849]

    The only time Ghost wasn't CGI was in Season 1. Everything past that and CGI was used(they still used a wolf). You need post-production editing, and then a LOT of CGI. To put him in the crypt where he should have been would have cost a lot of money.

    Ghost has actually been cut from the script for the past few seasons because of how much money it costs. An article if you're interested:

    https://www.elle.com.au/culture/why-game-of-thrones-keeps-cutting-out-direwolf-scenes-13902


    Here's some pictures if you're interested.



    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    nah theres several shots where they only made some color correction and used different camera angles for the wolves.

    Indubitably [2117849]

    I guess the producers of Game of Thrones don't know as much as you.

    I think you might have done a better job than they did this episode anyway.

    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    im sorry but its not really a secret that most of the shots featuring the wolves are just camera tricks. the directors know what you are doing. you dont.
    I linked you an article that stated it cost too much money to include ghost and you're still this clueless. This is backed up by how ghost isn't included in many scenes and wasn't in like 4+ seasons because it COST. TOO. MUCH. MONEY. If it was just "camera tricks" - he'd be there..
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    Posted on 11:28:35 - 29/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    I heard the dog that did play ghost has died no idea if true though, i thought he was all CGI
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    Posted on 11:29:05 - 29/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    ghost isnt CGI. its a real dog. just smaller than its made to look.

    Indubitably [2117849]

    The only time Ghost wasn't CGI was in Season 1. Everything past that and CGI was used(they still used a wolf). You need post-production editing, and then a LOT of CGI. To put him in the crypt where he should have been would have cost a lot of money.

    Ghost has actually been cut from the script for the past few seasons because of how much money it costs. An article if you're interested:

    https://www.elle.com.au/culture/why-game-of-thrones-keeps-cutting-out-direwolf-scenes-13902


    Here's some pictures if you're interested.



    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    nah theres several shots where they only made some color correction and used different camera angles for the wolves.

    Indubitably [2117849]

    I guess the producers of Game of Thrones don't know as much as you.

    I think you might have done a better job than they did this episode anyway.

    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    im sorry but its not really a secret that most of the shots featuring the wolves are just camera tricks. the directors know what you are doing. you dont.

    Indubitably [2117849]

    I linked you an article that stated it cost too much money to include ghost and you're still this clueless. This is backed up by how ghost isn't included in many scenes and wasn't in like 4+ seasons because it COST. TOO. MUCH. MONEY. If it was just "camera tricks" - he'd be there..
    instead of reading the headlines in stupid articles you could try watching the show? or the behind the scenes? yes SOMETIMES they made the wolves using 3d graphics. but alot of the times they didnt. learn to f**king read.

    "Refusing to help a neighbor who's house burned down is shitty. Refusing when you helped start the fire is monstrous."

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    Posted on 11:29:50 - 29/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    I heard the dog that did play ghost has died no idea if true though, i thought he was all CGI
    a real dog that is slightly enlarged due to either special effects and camera angles

    "Refusing to help a neighbor who's house burned down is shitty. Refusing when you helped start the fire is monstrous."

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    Posted on 11:32:14 - 29/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    Indubitably [2117849]

    The only time Ghost wasn't CGI was in Season 1. Everything past that and CGI was used(they still used a wolf). You need post-production editing, and then a LOT of CGI. To put him in the crypt where he should have been would have cost a lot of money.

    Ghost has actually been cut from the script for the past few seasons because of how much money it costs. An article if you're interested:

    https://www.elle.com.au/culture/why-game-of-thrones-keeps-cutting-out-direwolf-scenes-13902


    Here's some pictures if you're interested.



    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    nah theres several shots where they only made some color correction and used different camera angles for the wolves.

    Indubitably [2117849]

    I guess the producers of Game of Thrones don't know as much as you.

    I think you might have done a better job than they did this episode anyway.

    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    im sorry but its not really a secret that most of the shots featuring the wolves are just camera tricks. the directors know what you are doing. you dont.

    Indubitably [2117849]

    I linked you an article that stated it cost too much money to include ghost and you're still this clueless. This is backed up by how ghost isn't included in many scenes and wasn't in like 4+ seasons because it COST. TOO. MUCH. MONEY. If it was just "camera tricks" - he'd be there..

    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    instead of reading the headlines in stupid articles you could try watching the show? or the behind the scenes? yes SOMETIMES they made the wolves using 3d graphics. but alot of the times they didnt. learn to f**king read.
    Okay... here's the director saying it's too expensive.

    ""[Ghost] was in there in spades originally, but it's also an incredibly time consuming and expensive character to bring to life," the episode's director Miguel Sapochnik told Business Insider on Monday. "Ultimately we had to choose between Wun-Wun and the direwolf, so the dog bit the dust." "

    If you didn't know, Wun-Wun was a giant with incredible detail. They are both equally difficult and similarly expensive.

    Notice the words "bring to life" - please acknowledge those words if you bother replying to me.

    If you can't grasp that, you truly are a lost cause.
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    Posted on 12:01:37 - 29/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    nah theres several shots where they only made some color correction and used different camera angles for the wolves.

    Indubitably [2117849]

    I guess the producers of Game of Thrones don't know as much as you.

    I think you might have done a better job than they did this episode anyway.

    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    im sorry but its not really a secret that most of the shots featuring the wolves are just camera tricks. the directors know what you are doing. you dont.

    Indubitably [2117849]

    I linked you an article that stated it cost too much money to include ghost and you're still this clueless. This is backed up by how ghost isn't included in many scenes and wasn't in like 4+ seasons because it COST. TOO. MUCH. MONEY. If it was just "camera tricks" - he'd be there..

    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    instead of reading the headlines in stupid articles you could try watching the show? or the behind the scenes? yes SOMETIMES they made the wolves using 3d graphics. but alot of the times they didnt. learn to f**king read.

    Indubitably [2117849]

    Okay... here's the director saying it's too expensive.

    ""[Ghost] was in there in spades originally, but it's also an incredibly time consuming and expensive character to bring to life," the episode's director Miguel Sapochnik told Business Insider on Monday. "Ultimately we had to choose between Wun-Wun and the direwolf, so the dog bit the dust." "

    If you didn't know, Wun-Wun was a giant with incredible detail. They are both equally difficult and similarly expensive.

    Notice the words "bring to life" - please acknowledge those words if you bother replying to me.

    If you can't grasp that, you truly are a lost cause.
    "Okay... here's the director saying it's too expensive."

    ok, lemme stop you there. thats not the point. read again.

    "Refusing to help a neighbor who's house burned down is shitty. Refusing when you helped start the fire is monstrous."

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    Posted on 12:17:48 - 29/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    Indubitably [2117849]

    I guess the producers of Game of Thrones don't know as much as you.

    I think you might have done a better job than they did this episode anyway.

    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    im sorry but its not really a secret that most of the shots featuring the wolves are just camera tricks. the directors know what you are doing. you dont.

    Indubitably [2117849]

    I linked you an article that stated it cost too much money to include ghost and you're still this clueless. This is backed up by how ghost isn't included in many scenes and wasn't in like 4+ seasons because it COST. TOO. MUCH. MONEY. If it was just "camera tricks" - he'd be there..

    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    instead of reading the headlines in stupid articles you could try watching the show? or the behind the scenes? yes SOMETIMES they made the wolves using 3d graphics. but alot of the times they didnt. learn to f**king read.

    Indubitably [2117849]

    Okay... here's the director saying it's too expensive.

    ""[Ghost] was in there in spades originally, but it's also an incredibly time consuming and expensive character to bring to life," the episode's director Miguel Sapochnik told Business Insider on Monday. "Ultimately we had to choose between Wun-Wun and the direwolf, so the dog bit the dust." "

    If you didn't know, Wun-Wun was a giant with incredible detail. They are both equally difficult and similarly expensive.

    Notice the words "bring to life" - please acknowledge those words if you bother replying to me.

    If you can't grasp that, you truly are a lost cause.

    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    "Okay... here's the director saying it's too expensive."

    ok, lemme stop you there. thats not the point. read again.
    "the directors know what they're doing, you don't."

    gives a direct quote of a director saying it's too expensive to "bring to life" Ghost - aka using CGI and post-production effects... you're also calling it a dog when it's a wolf.

    but hey dude, you know more than anyone including the producers and directors of Game of Thrones... because you have given 0 proof and told me to "watch the show" when I made a post about the show... i'll pass on losing brain cells any longer, ignored you.
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    Posted on 13:03:29 - 29/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    Great episode. Jon Snow sucks. Glad he did not get the kill. Arya  is a superhero so it makes sense. Stop ctying op.

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    Posted on 13:48:06 - 29/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    While I expected maybe a more important character or 2 to die....I was incredibly impressed with the episode. 


    My only complaint was the dark 'flying through the blizzard, which dragon was that, who is that' sort of parts. 

    Outside of that, the range of emotions my wife and I felt watching it were incredible. 

    Addressing the sudden death of the NK...I am not sure what else there could have been done. He is an undead King with no feelings. He wouldn't have had some long dramatic "say your last words" type of death. I told people going into this episode if Arya dies, I will be pissed. We spent season after season seeing her do almost nothing. I'm happy we got to see her ninja-like moves AND we got to see her scared and human also. 

    I see a lot of Reddit posts about "we never knew the NK motivation". Bran said it last episode, he wants everything to die. That is it. The red witch, Bran, the Faceless guy...all parts of the story leading Arya to that exact place at that exact time. Lord of the Light willed Beric to get Arya to safety. Red witch knew she needed to speak with Arya. All the rabbit chases from seasons past finally come to a close. 

    It took us almost 2 hours to calm down from that episode. Even though this threat is over, now we have to worry about Cersei, who didnt just lose 85% of her army. 
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    Posted on 15:18:12 - 29/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    im sorry but its not really a secret that most of the shots featuring the wolves are just camera tricks. the directors know what you are doing. you dont.

    Indubitably [2117849]

    I linked you an article that stated it cost too much money to include ghost and you're still this clueless. This is backed up by how ghost isn't included in many scenes and wasn't in like 4+ seasons because it COST. TOO. MUCH. MONEY. If it was just "camera tricks" - he'd be there..

    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    instead of reading the headlines in stupid articles you could try watching the show? or the behind the scenes? yes SOMETIMES they made the wolves using 3d graphics. but alot of the times they didnt. learn to f**king read.

    Indubitably [2117849]

    Okay... here's the director saying it's too expensive.

    ""[Ghost] was in there in spades originally, but it's also an incredibly time consuming and expensive character to bring to life," the episode's director Miguel Sapochnik told Business Insider on Monday. "Ultimately we had to choose between Wun-Wun and the direwolf, so the dog bit the dust." "

    If you didn't know, Wun-Wun was a giant with incredible detail. They are both equally difficult and similarly expensive.

    Notice the words "bring to life" - please acknowledge those words if you bother replying to me.

    If you can't grasp that, you truly are a lost cause.

    WiseTheRumGone [2078276]

    "Okay... here's the director saying it's too expensive."

    ok, lemme stop you there. thats not the point. read again.

    Indubitably [2117849]

    "the directors know what they're doing, you don't."

    gives a direct quote of a director saying it's too expensive to "bring to life" Ghost - aka using CGI and post-production effects... you're also calling it a dog when it's a wolf.

    but hey dude, you know more than anyone including the producers and directors of Game of Thrones... because you have given 0 proof and told me to "watch the show" when I made a post about the show... i'll pass on losing brain cells any longer, ignored you.
    It is obvious to anyone who has googled this matter and anyone with a brain that the direwolves have been cut out due to CGI costs. Think you are being trolled hard here. No way this guy is that dumb.
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    Posted on 15:42:37 - 29/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    Awful. Years and years of build up, mystery, terror, gone in 2 seconds thanks to anime ninja girl. Great. Of all the deaths we saw there were what, like two minor character deaths? Why was Jon brought back to life exactly? To fumble around on the back of a dragon and slash a few wights?

    Seasons 1-4 of Game of Thrones were some of the best television you will see. It is after that where the showrunner deviate from the source material until they run out of source material completely. And it shows. D&D are clearly don't know what they are doing without the source material to follow.

    Oh well. At least Cleganebowl is back on the menu!
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    Posted on 15:59:52 - 29/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    I did not have a problem with Arya killing him, I felt that she was always meant to do that. Though yeah she did to seem to come out of nowhere past a whole lot of white walkers. Also them making her seem so scared and useless earlier in the episode. I guess they were trying to do that so you would less expect her jumping in and saving the day. 

    Yeah the Night King wanted death and destruction. But it does not seem to show why the Night King would have been so interested in killing the Three Eyed Raven himself. Why would he put himself right there just to kill him why? I also thought that Bran would have jumped into the Night Kings past before he was able to draw his sword. Though I guess that can go into Bran already knowing what was going to happen. I just was thinking there was going to be more there. There is all this mystical stuff going on story wise and nothing really was used.
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    Posted on 17:07:33 - 29/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    Although the night king is dead, that does not mean that there are not any more dangers from the North or beyond the wall. Because it has been said all along that winter was getting colder and colder. Where it could have been part of a force that brought the night king to being that is making it colder in the North and having more cold coming down. So there still could be some sort of entity or threat from there. 

    Where I hope the rest of the thing is not just trying to overthrow Sersi and it is just blah and boring with just human things going on.

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    Posted on 18:19:21 - 29/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    Although the night king is dead, that does not mean that there are not any more dangers from the North or beyond the wall. Because it has been said all along that winter was getting colder and colder. Where it could have been part of a force that brought the night king to being that is making it colder in the North and having more cold coming down. So there still could be some sort of entity or threat from there.

    Where I hope the rest of the thing is not just trying to overthrow Sersi and it is just blah and boring with just human things going on.
    I am pretty positive the rest of the season will be politics and the final human vs human war (minus Clegan). 

    The Night King died where he was created. The wildlings are technically allies now, what is left of them at least. 

    I think Tyrion may play a large role in the remaining 3 episodes. For 2 episodes they have talked about how smart he is and kept him hidden. Now, armed with 15% of an army and a few lone strong people, they somehow have to outsmart and get rid of Cersei. 
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    Posted on 20:16:45 - 29/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    so Dany and her forces will head south, outnumbered and against a large mercenary army... Outnumbered against a large mercenary army, who could unexpectedly save the day in this situation? (again)
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    Posted on 21:19:19 - 29/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    Agreed characters had plot armor,
    Main chars were dogpiled by wights like 4 times each yet lived. I dont mind arya killing the NK and the way she did it was heavily foreshadowed.
    Ghost was cut due to CGI budget costs stop being a moron wise.
    Overall i enjoyed the episode
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    Posted on 23:29:57 - 29/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    so Dany and her forces will head south, outnumbered and against a large mercenary army... Outnumbered against a large mercenary army, who could unexpectedly save the day in this situation? (again)
    Arya will sneak in with the hound, Then the Hound will fight his brother. Then he will die, but Arya will steal Cersei's face. Then she as Cersei will command the armies to other locations. Then possibly someone kills her thinking she is Cersei. Possibly Jamie. Or if not there could be a scene where he wants to get with her. Maybe not because that would just be a silly scene and is more so something that would be in a fan fic. So She could kill Cersei and take her face but the last part with Jamie would not happen. Hopefully.  But that would not happen to probably the second to last episode, if not the last. The next episode is going to be a lot of talking and not much doing.

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    Posted on 01:15:38 - 30/04/19 (2 years ago)
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    SinCitySinner [2116762]

    so Dany and her forces will head south, outnumbered and against a large mercenary army... Outnumbered against a large mercenary army, who could unexpectedly save the day in this situation? (again)

    DrZed [237786]

    Arya will sneak in with the hound, Then the Hound will fight his brother. Then he will die, but Arya will steal Cersei's face. Then she as Cersei will command the armies to other locations. Then possibly someone kills her thinking she is Cersei. Possibly Jamie. Or if not there could be a scene where he wants to get with her. Maybe not because that would just be a silly scene and is more so something that would be in a fan fic. So She could kill Cersei and take her face but the last part with Jamie would not happen. Hopefully. But that would not happen to probably the second to last episode, if not the last. The next episode is going to be a lot of talking and not much doing.
    I'm already expecting this. Still can't believe Cersei is the end-game of a show built around the Night King's threat. 

    Especially considering she'll be a lot easier to kill but I already expect them to struggle. Two dragons could wipe out her entire army. Hell, they could fly in and kill her while she sleeps... but they don't have to go that route if they want to drag this out.

    Because Arya is an Anime character who's overpowered to shit with no reasoning as to why. We never really saw her develop to god-like status but get her ass kicked for a season and then instant god-mode...

    Gotta shut off your brain to enjoy GoT or else you'll see the plot armor and laugh at them put into positions where they're going to die but never do. In the viewing party, we created a rule drink your whole drink if someone is about to die but doesn't 15 minutes into the episode. We were all smashed halfway through last episode that we had to stop.
    Last edited by Indubitably on 01:33:14 - 30/04/19
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