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    Posted on 03:01:22 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    Ched! Why did you mess with stocks? Acting like you own this game. Smh!
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    Posted on 03:22:39 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    Buy mug then complain about stocks you must be hurting for money
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    Posted on 03:36:47 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    150th R+ 

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    Posted on 03:58:31 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    I was making some decent until recently. When I saw this topic in the forums I'm like shoot now or makes sense. I'm not sure what ched plans to do but at least he should come out and say something regarding this.

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    Posted on 04:02:44 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    omg, stocks aren't making me money!
    omg, i can't mug what'shisface cause he's mug protected!
    omg, i still can't mug what'shisface cause he's stashing all his money on stocks before he lands!
    omg, i can't attack what'shisface cause he self hosped! or he self jailed! or he otherwise self abused!

    Please shut the f**k up with the whining. Adapt and overcome; go figure shit out and do better.

    By the way, ched doesn't care about your "subscription" money. Money comes from the DP buyers, and I'm pretty sure people with tens and hundreds of billions aren't buying DPs!
    Considering Xanty (stocks) and Pops (mugging) are one of the biggest who benefited, you must not have been invited to either.
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    Posted on 04:13:24 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    Yeah. Its really hard to make money now a days. 

    Like someone is waiting for you to invest and when you do they pull it down and recovery is coming soon.

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    Posted on 05:17:37 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    Deffo headed in the pay to win direction. Pretty much the final way to make money, for a newer player to get half decent even is now pretty much gone.

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    Posted on 05:18:35 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    Posted on 06:30:43 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    New stocks are pretty trash...
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    Posted on 08:13:15 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    My biggest issue is the game's stock market being based on real world stocks. Isn't it called Torn's stock market? All the companies in the Torn stock market are based IN Torn. Then how and why the f**k does our deeds not influence those? 
    Before, DBing would send WLT dipping for a bit. Wars would affect other companies. Now? No amount of anything you do has any effect whatsoever on the so called companies based IN Torn. Torn's stock market is iron clad. Zero predictions. 100 percent gamble because you don't know if it will dip or whatever the opposite of dip is.

    I just find this illogical. That's all.
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    Posted on 08:21:46 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    All I wanna know is it still worth Playing torn if it's just gunna go to shiyt? Or just prey for the best lol. I don't have stocks but by the sound it wouldnt be as good without them??
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    Posted on 08:49:58 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    Stocks have always been a long term thing, not meant to make 100million in a day Every Single Day. Some years ago I purchased Yazoo at 45 a piece and took a long break. When I came back they were selling around 900, instant rich, but that took YEARS for it to get there. 

    I have Billions in the stock market because I have invested for the long term of it, no current changes have affected me in any way.

    Sold :)
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    Posted on 09:01:21 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    :/ i had dreams of making top 250 in money....... i dont think ill catch up....
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    Posted on 09:28:07 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    This can't be any more true! 
    Earlier, stocks used to go up down 4-5% a day, now, they barely moving a percent the whole damn week/month!
    It's all a lie if you think its being linked to some real-life stocks, no it isn't.

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    Posted on 09:34:58 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    I'm too thick to play with any stock, so I don't expect to outgrow anyone in the TOP100 who's not going inactive.. Though, it's demoralizing to see a few people did crack the code for too long and are munching SE's at cooldown.
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    Posted on 09:38:17 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    Its basically betting on moving averages. Would've been better if there was actually some basis to them that could be studied, as was the case earlier.

    Ferro Credimus

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    Posted on 09:59:51 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    Il make this short 

    Stocks are a bag of wank now! It has affected my games so much that I'm actually bored playing! Sort it out ched!!!
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    Posted on 10:13:04 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    KingLion [1477459]

    Hi Torn,

    Let's be real here for a moment. Stocks have clearly been tempered with and manipulated. I believe this all started a few months ago when SYM started being reliable for a little bit and ticking the same exact tick up and down. This meant quite a lot of people made risk free money and ched and bogie was made aware of this and they instantly when they come online switched the stock off to make it go back to behaving in a normal erratic pattern. This issue is I believe that ched was so angry this happened that they then proceeded to crash stocks to new all times low to get people stuck (e.g: BAG EWM etc) and more importantly reduce the volatility of stocks. I want to know honestly is there anyone who has been doing stocks since 3.0 was released that doesn't think the stock market has clearly very drastically changed in the last few months to be less volatile? Never before SYM would I wake up to stocks being the same price for weeks on end. I have not yet talked to a single person who heavily invests in stocks who has not noticed the change, and I have asked many many people about this. It's pretty blatantly obvious.

    If there's anyone who is making big money out here in the new changed stock system just comment below i'm curious if there is anyone who is unaffected/hasn't noticed the difference.

    I know a lot of people reading this are burning up thinking "stock people have made enough money" "stocks were f**king broken im glad they are removed" "if i didn't invest i felt left out, rich get richer" etc etc. This thread is NOT for the argument of whether what he did was right or wrong. I am not here right now to complain about how stocks being f**ked affects our growth as the money making potential is close to non-existent. Yes I believe stocks are a vital part of keeping people entertained on this game, and if ched feels like people's growth needs to be slowed down so taking stocks out of the game as a viable strategy in making money is the answer then so be it. This thread is more for the admin/developer of this game to grow a pair of balls and admit he f**ked with it and give us his reasoning behind it and whether he feels like it is necessary only temporarily or whether this is how stocks will be now permanently.

    @Ched Admit you f**ked stocks up.

    Thanks,
    KingLion

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    Looks to me like Torn stocks are doing a splendid job of imitating the behavior of real-world stocks.

    You may at times think you know what a particular stock will do next based on past patterns, but this is in fact an illusion. Day trading is a form of gambling, just like IRL. No one ever said a stock that goes down will go back up again. The only thing Ched did say at the introduction of Stocks 3.0 is that a well-diversified portfolio of stocks can be expected to gain approximately 10% per year on average.
    "Looks to me like Torn stocks are doing a splendid job of imitating the behavior of real-world stocks."

    How? What is it that you have seen in your short time here that ALL the people who have heavily been investing in stocks don't see? It seems to me you have not gone anywhere near the stock market to have noticed the huge drastic change in the stock market.

    I thought the people Torn would hire for their committee would have better reading skills but I will spell it out. This isn't about a stock crashing at all, this is about how after SYM the stock market has reduced it's volatility down to almost 0. I work in finance and watch the stock market closely irl, the stocks IRL in the world were all at the same time not reduced in volatility.

    In addition, people keep claiming oh hey ewm crashed due to this event how did you not see it coming etc. This is incorrect, and those people will not be able to find ANY correlation between that industry and those stocks. I have a friend here who has ran through the entire stock data on torn for all the stocks and compared them to entire industries to see if there is any correlation between those stocks like EWM and to the industry they relate too. There is no correlation what so ever, so quoting random events irl to explain the drastic change in a stock just because in ur head that makes sense with no evidence, is pretty foolish. I'm welcomed to be proved wrong, but don't think anyone can provide any evidence to the contrary and rightfully so as money could be made if we saw any correlation between irl and tc stocks.

    Lastly, to the few people who are saying how I am crying about not making money. Clearly, did not read my post.
    "This thread is NOT for the argument of whether what he did was right or wrong. I am not here right now to complain about how stocks being f**ked affects our growth as the money making potential is close to non-existent. "

    It's not about that. It's the principle of Developer - Member transparency. Telling us that things work like X, and then changing that upon us with no explanation or announcement is what I argue against. This is more about being told clearly "hey we had to make this change to the system you enjoy as people have had too much growth, and it will be like this for a year." I will accept that, just would like clear communication, as communication is the key to success in any kind of relationship.

    That's just my opinion anyways but lastly, thanks all that posted and all the ratings. It is cool to see different perspective and views on this topic, even if I don't agree with some. No debate can be had without an opposing argument :)
    Last edited by KingLion on 10:17:50 - 20/09/21

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    Posted on 10:29:20 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    KingLion [1477459]

    Hi Torn,

    Let's be real here for a moment. Stocks have clearly been tempered with and manipulated. I believe this all started a few months ago when SYM started being reliable for a little bit and ticking the same exact tick up and down. This meant quite a lot of people made risk free money and ched and bogie was made aware of this and they instantly when they come online switched the stock off to make it go back to behaving in a normal erratic pattern. This issue is I believe that ched was so angry this happened that they then proceeded to crash stocks to new all times low to get people stuck (e.g: BAG EWM etc) and more importantly reduce the volatility of stocks. I want to know honestly is there anyone who has been doing stocks since 3.0 was released that doesn't think the stock market has clearly very drastically changed in the last few months to be less volatile? Never before SYM would I wake up to stocks being the same price for weeks on end. I have not yet talked to a single person who heavily invests in stocks who has not noticed the change, and I have asked many many people about this. It's pretty blatantly obvious.

    If there's anyone who is making big money out here in the new changed stock system just comment below i'm curious if there is anyone who is unaffected/hasn't noticed the difference.

    I know a lot of people reading this are burning up thinking "stock people have made enough money" "stocks were f**king broken im glad they are removed" "if i didn't invest i felt left out, rich get richer" etc etc. This thread is NOT for the argument of whether what he did was right or wrong. I am not here right now to complain about how stocks being f**ked affects our growth as the money making potential is close to non-existent. Yes I believe stocks are a vital part of keeping people entertained on this game, and if ched feels like people's growth needs to be slowed down so taking stocks out of the game as a viable strategy in making money is the answer then so be it. This thread is more for the admin/developer of this game to grow a pair of balls and admit he f**ked with it and give us his reasoning behind it and whether he feels like it is necessary only temporarily or whether this is how stocks will be now permanently.

    @Ched Admit you f**ked stocks up.

    Thanks,
    KingLion

    Mizadil [2640357]

    Looks to me like Torn stocks are doing a splendid job of imitating the behavior of real-world stocks.

    You may at times think you know what a particular stock will do next based on past patterns, but this is in fact an illusion. Day trading is a form of gambling, just like IRL. No one ever said a stock that goes down will go back up again. The only thing Ched did say at the introduction of Stocks 3.0 is that a well-diversified portfolio of stocks can be expected to gain approximately 10% per year on average.

    KingLion [1477459]

    "Looks to me like Torn stocks are doing a splendid job of imitating the behavior of real-world stocks."

    How? What is it that you have seen in your short time here that ALL the people who have heavily been investing in stocks don't see? It seems to me you have not gone anywhere near the stock market to have noticed the huge drastic change in the stock market.

    I thought the people Torn would hire for their committee would have better reading skills but I will spell it out. This isn't about a stock crashing at all, this is about how after SYM the stock market has reduced it's volatility down to almost 0. I work in finance and watch the stock market closely irl, the stocks IRL in the world were all at the same time not reduced in volatility.

    In addition, people keep claiming oh hey ewm crashed due to this event how did you not see it coming etc. This is incorrect, and those people will not be able to find ANY correlation between that industry and those stocks. I have a friend here who has ran through the entire stock data on torn for all the stocks and compared them to entire industries to see if there is any correlation between those stocks like EWM and to the industry they relate too. There is no correlation what so ever, so quoting random events irl to explain the drastic change in a stock just because in ur head that makes sense with no evidence, is pretty foolish. I'm welcomed to be proved wrong, but don't think anyone can provide any evidence to the contrary and rightfully so as money could be made if we saw any correlation between irl and tc stocks.

    Lastly, to the few people who are saying how I am crying about not making money. Clearly, did not read my post.
    "This thread is NOT for the argument of whether what he did was right or wrong. I am not here right now to complain about how stocks being f**ked affects our growth as the money making potential is close to non-existent. "

    It's not about that. It's the principle of Developer - Member transparency. Telling us that things work like X, and then changing that upon us with no explanation or announcement is what I argue against. This is more about being told clearly "hey we had to make this change to the system you enjoy as people have had too much growth, and it will be like this for a year." I will accept that, just would like clear communication, as communication is the key to success in any kind of relationship.

    That's just my opinion anyways but lastly, thanks all that posted and all the ratings. It is cool to see different perspective and views on this topic, even if I don't agree with some. No debate can be had without an opposing argument :)
    I would argue it's impossible to prove, you really don't know what the stock market is based on. Which country, what particular industry in that country.

    You don't even know if it isnt a portfolio type stock, such as 10% of company x 20% of company y, 0.2% of company b. To say you ran all the numbers and every combination of every industry worldwide in that field is quite a bold statement.(endless possibilities in combinations)

    You may be right, you may be wrong, but its also a impossible thing to prove. The market is also very volatile worldwide, leaders of industry can shift drastically in certain fields.

    Your also not considering the possible problem of everyone running around with 100s of billions let's be honest the old stock market required 0 skill buy stock x at this price wait till this price, double your money and REPEAT. Unlike the real world to, torncity stocks are safe from going bankrupt.

    I'm not even trying to make money on the stock market, but somehow I'm making a few million everyday with my diversified portfolio.
    Last edited by RadicalFanatic on 10:56:28 - 20/09/21
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    Posted on 10:43:44 - 20/09/21 (27 days ago)
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    A must post since its another stocks thread

    "I bought at the dip, but then the dip dipped"
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