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    Posted on 19:55:47 - 03/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    How is this not on top!?!?

    Get hiiiiim
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    Posted on 01:49:39 - 04/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Also, to any little tiny-brain who might have just given me 4 consecutive
    downvotes, welcome to my chain list.

    Kafia [2480738]

    You can just name me.
    You're spamming several posts one after the other with stupid gifs, you deserved the downvotes.

    You got so pissed that you went and found 4 of my old posts and downvoted them.
    And you flew to Mexico to avoid a retal.

    You gonna keep flying during your chain too?

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Yes, I'm sure you would love to be named - I can't be bothered.

    As for my flying habits, you'll know more about them the next time we chain.

    As for the rest:


    And again, I repeat, you virtue-signaling white knights are a big part of what's wrong with Torn.

    Brakier [2095393]

    how is it white knighting? im pretty sure nobody on torn want faction leaders stealing from members, that is the reason we want him out of the game.

    this isent about trade mugging , buy mugging or even other scams. this is about a leader who took all the money that was in the vault that belonged to the members. an act that is so damn degenrate and wrong, that i dont want that person to keep playing, if we dont chase such people out we are enabling that behaviour and more people will do it.

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    This is 100% white knighting.
    Torn is a morally relativistic universe.
    The line you have drawn in the sand is artificial and ridiculous.
    It makes more sense to applaud H-M for his low cunning, which is certainly a virtue in Torn.

    Don't get me wrong - I believe in personal vengeance. If you hate someone, destroy her.

    But bounties don't work - I know that from being on both sides of the coin. In fact, being at
    the center of a bounty war is some of the best fun I've had in Torn...because they don't work.
    Last night I took a 500K bounty off H-M, but first I had to wait 20 mins for my e to build.
    That's 20 minutes of freedom with a half-mill bounty on him. I guess you'd better up the ante.

    And these stupid threads sure as hell won't work, they're just breeding grounds for pathetic
    mouth breeders attempting to make up for their diminutive manhoods by forming a morally-
    outraged forum mob. Honestly, it's pathetic.

    And beyond that - H-M is having a good laugh at all of you and you still haven't figured out why.

    Moral outrage appears to make people unobservant...if not stupid.

    EDIT: Sorry, forgot the mr. bean gif!


    White knighting, vigilante justice, whatever you wanna call it, HM is gonna take it, regardless. You cna stop white knighting yourself.

    As for "it doesn't work!" That's bullshit. It takes time. Where's bling_bling, for example? There's numerous people who've been chased out by the community or hell, even by single players with enough dedication. So...you're wrong.

    You don't have to share the same values as everyone else but you sure as hell can't expect everyone else to share yours.
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    Posted on 02:13:46 - 04/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Also, to any little tiny-brain who might have just given me 4 consecutive
    downvotes, welcome to my chain list.

    Kafia [2480738]

    You can just name me.
    You're spamming several posts one after the other with stupid gifs, you deserved the downvotes.

    You got so pissed that you went and found 4 of my old posts and downvoted them.
    And you flew to Mexico to avoid a retal.

    You gonna keep flying during your chain too?

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Yes, I'm sure you would love to be named - I can't be bothered.

    As for my flying habits, you'll know more about them the next time we chain.

    As for the rest:


    And again, I repeat, you virtue-signaling white knights are a big part of what's wrong with Torn.

    Brakier [2095393]

    how is it white knighting? im pretty sure nobody on torn want faction leaders stealing from members, that is the reason we want him out of the game.

    this isent about trade mugging , buy mugging or even other scams. this is about a leader who took all the money that was in the vault that belonged to the members. an act that is so damn degenrate and wrong, that i dont want that person to keep playing, if we dont chase such people out we are enabling that behaviour and more people will do it.

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    This is 100% white knighting.
    Torn is a morally relativistic universe.
    The line you have drawn in the sand is artificial and ridiculous.
    It makes more sense to applaud H-M for his low cunning, which is certainly a virtue in Torn.

    Don't get me wrong - I believe in personal vengeance. If you hate someone, destroy her.

    But bounties don't work - I know that from being on both sides of the coin. In fact, being at
    the center of a bounty war is some of the best fun I've had in Torn...because they don't work.
    Last night I took a 500K bounty off H-M, but first I had to wait 20 mins for my e to build.
    That's 20 minutes of freedom with a half-mill bounty on him. I guess you'd better up the ante.

    And these stupid threads sure as hell won't work, they're just breeding grounds for pathetic
    mouth breeders attempting to make up for their diminutive manhoods by forming a morally-
    outraged forum mob. Honestly, it's pathetic.

    And beyond that - H-M is having a good laugh at all of you and you still haven't figured out why.

    Moral outrage appears to make people unobservant...if not stupid.

    EDIT: Sorry, forgot the mr. bean gif!


    JoeSkull [533524]

    White knighting, vigilante justice, whatever you wanna call it, HM is gonna take it, regardless. You cna stop white knighting yourself.

    As for "it doesn't work!" That's bullshit. It takes time. Where's bling_bling, for example? There's numerous people who've been chased out by the community or hell, even by single players with enough dedication. So...you're wrong.

    You don't have to share the same values as everyone else but you sure as hell can't expect everyone else to share yours.
    The reality is that some newbie got hit money stolen because he put it where someone else could access it. That sucks, for sure.

    But it's not about values, it's about time and resources. What do I care if some newbie lost money because he put his money where he didn't have control of it? I don't know either of them, I have no interest in what their dynamics are. I'm not going to waste any headspace on either of them.

    What exactly are you trying to achieve here? So it seems like either A: You want to impose your own values on someone else who doesn't share them or B: You're inserting yourself in a conflict that doesn't involve you for the sake of looking like you're a "good guy"
    And I still may....
    Offering Detective Agency Services:
    References - 1 million per check - View someone's employment & faction history
    Friend or Foe - 25 million per check - See who's friended / blacklisted someone
    Watchlist - 15 million per delay - Anonymously extend a target's flight time
    Gonna wait it out....
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    Posted on 02:35:04 - 04/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Kafia [2480738]

    You can just name me.
    You're spamming several posts one after the other with stupid gifs, you deserved the downvotes.

    You got so pissed that you went and found 4 of my old posts and downvoted them.
    And you flew to Mexico to avoid a retal.

    You gonna keep flying during your chain too?

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Yes, I'm sure you would love to be named - I can't be bothered.

    As for my flying habits, you'll know more about them the next time we chain.

    As for the rest:


    And again, I repeat, you virtue-signaling white knights are a big part of what's wrong with Torn.

    Brakier [2095393]

    how is it white knighting? im pretty sure nobody on torn want faction leaders stealing from members, that is the reason we want him out of the game.

    this isent about trade mugging , buy mugging or even other scams. this is about a leader who took all the money that was in the vault that belonged to the members. an act that is so damn degenrate and wrong, that i dont want that person to keep playing, if we dont chase such people out we are enabling that behaviour and more people will do it.

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    This is 100% white knighting.
    Torn is a morally relativistic universe.
    The line you have drawn in the sand is artificial and ridiculous.
    It makes more sense to applaud H-M for his low cunning, which is certainly a virtue in Torn.

    Don't get me wrong - I believe in personal vengeance. If you hate someone, destroy her.

    But bounties don't work - I know that from being on both sides of the coin. In fact, being at
    the center of a bounty war is some of the best fun I've had in Torn...because they don't work.
    Last night I took a 500K bounty off H-M, but first I had to wait 20 mins for my e to build.
    That's 20 minutes of freedom with a half-mill bounty on him. I guess you'd better up the ante.

    And these stupid threads sure as hell won't work, they're just breeding grounds for pathetic
    mouth breeders attempting to make up for their diminutive manhoods by forming a morally-
    outraged forum mob. Honestly, it's pathetic.

    And beyond that - H-M is having a good laugh at all of you and you still haven't figured out why.

    Moral outrage appears to make people unobservant...if not stupid.

    EDIT: Sorry, forgot the mr. bean gif!


    JoeSkull [533524]

    White knighting, vigilante justice, whatever you wanna call it, HM is gonna take it, regardless. You cna stop white knighting yourself.

    As for "it doesn't work!" That's bullshit. It takes time. Where's bling_bling, for example? There's numerous people who've been chased out by the community or hell, even by single players with enough dedication. So...you're wrong.

    You don't have to share the same values as everyone else but you sure as hell can't expect everyone else to share yours.

    Patient [2131539]

    The reality is that some newbie got hit money stolen because he put it where someone else could access it. That sucks, for sure.

    But it's not about values, it's about time and resources. What do I care if some newbie lost money because he put his money where he didn't have control of it? I don't know either of them, I have no interest in what their dynamics are. I'm not going to waste any headspace on either of them.

    What exactly are you trying to achieve here? So it seems like either A: You want to impose your own values on someone else who doesn't share them or B: You're inserting yourself in a conflict that doesn't involve you for the sake of looking like you're a "good guy"
    Because shitty actions get shitty reactions.

    Faction leaders shouldn't steal from their people
    Simple as that. I personally don't care if anyone else is onboard. Hell, I'm only hitting him when I'm chaining. Just because you don't want to get involved doesn't mean nobody should.
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    Posted on 02:58:34 - 04/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Right, those your values, good on you for having them, but they don't mean shit to anyone else but you. All you're doing is promoting this idea that faction leadership is something to trust in without question because.... why? They paid the ~$10m? to make a faction? Or were give access to a vault?

    If anything, this kind of outrage against someone with vault access who takes money is going to lead to more newbies losing money by putting it in their faction's vaults because of the idea that "faction leaders shouldn't steal from their people" which makes it all the more easier for scammers to just start a faction and hope some newbie dumps a ton of cash into the vault because of people with the sentiment you have insist that just because someone is in faction leadership means they should be trusted unconditionally.

    You're not helping anywhere near as much as you think you are.
    Last edited by Patient on 02:59:12 - 04/09/21
    And I still may....
    Offering Detective Agency Services:
    References - 1 million per check - View someone's employment & faction history
    Friend or Foe - 25 million per check - See who's friended / blacklisted someone
    Watchlist - 15 million per delay - Anonymously extend a target's flight time
    Gonna wait it out....
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    Posted on 03:41:15 - 04/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Yes, I'm sure you would love to be named - I can't be bothered.

    As for my flying habits, you'll know more about them the next time we chain.

    As for the rest:


    And again, I repeat, you virtue-signaling white knights are a big part of what's wrong with Torn.

    Brakier [2095393]

    how is it white knighting? im pretty sure nobody on torn want faction leaders stealing from members, that is the reason we want him out of the game.

    this isent about trade mugging , buy mugging or even other scams. this is about a leader who took all the money that was in the vault that belonged to the members. an act that is so damn degenrate and wrong, that i dont want that person to keep playing, if we dont chase such people out we are enabling that behaviour and more people will do it.

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    This is 100% white knighting.
    Torn is a morally relativistic universe.
    The line you have drawn in the sand is artificial and ridiculous.
    It makes more sense to applaud H-M for his low cunning, which is certainly a virtue in Torn.

    Don't get me wrong - I believe in personal vengeance. If you hate someone, destroy her.

    But bounties don't work - I know that from being on both sides of the coin. In fact, being at
    the center of a bounty war is some of the best fun I've had in Torn...because they don't work.
    Last night I took a 500K bounty off H-M, but first I had to wait 20 mins for my e to build.
    That's 20 minutes of freedom with a half-mill bounty on him. I guess you'd better up the ante.

    And these stupid threads sure as hell won't work, they're just breeding grounds for pathetic
    mouth breeders attempting to make up for their diminutive manhoods by forming a morally-
    outraged forum mob. Honestly, it's pathetic.

    And beyond that - H-M is having a good laugh at all of you and you still haven't figured out why.

    Moral outrage appears to make people unobservant...if not stupid.

    EDIT: Sorry, forgot the mr. bean gif!


    JoeSkull [533524]

    White knighting, vigilante justice, whatever you wanna call it, HM is gonna take it, regardless. You cna stop white knighting yourself.

    As for "it doesn't work!" That's bullshit. It takes time. Where's bling_bling, for example? There's numerous people who've been chased out by the community or hell, even by single players with enough dedication. So...you're wrong.

    You don't have to share the same values as everyone else but you sure as hell can't expect everyone else to share yours.

    Patient [2131539]

    The reality is that some newbie got hit money stolen because he put it where someone else could access it. That sucks, for sure.

    But it's not about values, it's about time and resources. What do I care if some newbie lost money because he put his money where he didn't have control of it? I don't know either of them, I have no interest in what their dynamics are. I'm not going to waste any headspace on either of them.

    What exactly are you trying to achieve here? So it seems like either A: You want to impose your own values on someone else who doesn't share them or B: You're inserting yourself in a conflict that doesn't involve you for the sake of looking like you're a "good guy"

    JoeSkull [533524]

    Because shitty actions get shitty reactions.

    Faction leaders shouldn't steal from their people
    Simple as that. I personally don't care if anyone else is onboard. Hell, I'm only hitting him when I'm chaining. Just because you don't want to get involved doesn't mean nobody should.
    A:You have  misplaced values - scammers are an important part of the game.
    B: Personal vengeance good, mob-justice weak-minded and misguided virtue signalling.
    C: I have chased someone out of the game. Bounties are not nearly enough.
    D: Have fun - H-M is having a good laugh and training his tits off.

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    Posted on 08:47:13 - 04/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    I'm having a good laugh at the irony.

    Thank you all for generating a good discussion on the thread! The thread had gotten boring with people posting just "bump" and "You stink bomb'd Hermaroids".

    It's made this more entertaining!
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    Posted on 08:49:15 - 04/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    04:00:49 - 04/09/21 You received 1x Private Island from Home Retail Group
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    Posted on 08:50:05 - 04/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Oh, and - 

    You successfully used some Toilet Paper on Hermaeus-Mora's property decreasing their happiness.

    Better switch to using alcohol dude! Get up your nerve bar so you can do PAs and make some money.


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    Posted on 09:44:41 - 04/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Patient [2131539]

    Right, those your values, good on you for having them, but they don't mean shit to anyone else but you. All you're doing is promoting this idea that faction leadership is something to trust in without question because.... why? They paid the ~$10m? to make a faction? Or were give access to a vault?

    If anything, this kind of outrage against someone with vault access who takes money is going to lead to more newbies losing money by putting it in their faction's vaults because of the idea that "faction leaders shouldn't steal from their people" which makes it all the more easier for scammers to just start a faction and hope some newbie dumps a ton of cash into the vault because of people with the sentiment you have insist that just because someone is in faction leadership means they should be trusted unconditionally.

    You're not helping anywhere near as much as you think you are.
    Is it safe to assume you’d also steal from your faction if given the chance?
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    Posted on 10:05:33 - 04/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Kafia [2480738]

    Oh, and -

    You successfully used some Toilet Paper on Hermaeus-Mora's property decreasing their happiness.

    Better switch to using alcohol dude! Get up your nerve bar so you can do PAs and make some money.


    He'd need to get a few faction mates that trust him before he could do PA's, I doubt he will find anyone other than multi's to be in his faction
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    Kafia [2480738]

    Oh, and -

    You successfully used some Toilet Paper on Hermaeus-Mora's property decreasing their happiness.

    Better switch to using alcohol dude! Get up your nerve bar so you can do PAs and make some money.


    revstevew [2175299]

    He'd need to get a few faction mates that trust him before he could do PA's, I doubt he will find anyone other than multi's to be in his faction
    I'm sure he has a way. According to internal sources, he's laughing at us and we don't understand what he's doing.
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    Posted on 10:23:30 - 04/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Also, to any little tiny-brain who might have just given me 4 consecutive
    downvotes, welcome to my chain list.

    Kafia [2480738]

    You can just name me.
    You're spamming several posts one after the other with stupid gifs, you deserved the downvotes.

    You got so pissed that you went and found 4 of my old posts and downvoted them.
    And you flew to Mexico to avoid a retal.

    You gonna keep flying during your chain too?

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Yes, I'm sure you would love to be named - I can't be bothered.

    As for my flying habits, you'll know more about them the next time we chain.

    As for the rest:


    And again, I repeat, you virtue-signaling white knights are a big part of what's wrong with Torn.

    Brakier [2095393]

    how is it white knighting? im pretty sure nobody on torn want faction leaders stealing from members, that is the reason we want him out of the game.

    this isent about trade mugging , buy mugging or even other scams. this is about a leader who took all the money that was in the vault that belonged to the members. an act that is so damn degenrate and wrong, that i dont want that person to keep playing, if we dont chase such people out we are enabling that behaviour and more people will do it.
    "Dont want that person to keep playing"?

    "If we dont chase such people out"?

    Wow, when did Ched say you or anyone else gets to "chase people out"?

    Hosp the person, bounty them, be a di*k in game, etc... but "chasing people out", for something that is 100% legal within the rules of the game, should result in you and anyone else who does it being sanctioned by staff for bullying, imo.

    You don't get to arbitrarily determine the user-base of the game because you're "offended".

    Im sure you're a nice person, but your views on this are just plain wrong. Hate on the guy, do whatever you can in-game...but you gotta draw the line there.

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    Posted on 10:26:46 - 04/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Holy crap is this shit still going? 

    62 more pages and then it's a book of pointless bullshit

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    Posted on 13:11:06 - 04/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    REDROCKETREV [2155045]

    Holy crap is this shit still going?

    62 more pages and then it's a book of pointless bullshit
    38 pages would still quality as a novel. It's almost 750 posts. With 50 words per post average, that's still 37.5k words.
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    Posted on 13:17:49 - 04/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    REDROCKETREV [2155045]

    Holy crap is this shit still going?

    62 more pages and then it's a book of pointless bullshit

    Kafia [2480738]

    38 pages would still quality as a novel. It's almost 750 posts. With 50 words per post average, that's still 37.5k words.
    Also has to depend on the story and if it can grip me, it's easy to start off great but can it carry on? But you're right a LOT has been said

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    Posted on 16:08:13 - 04/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    REDROCKETREV [2155045]

    Holy crap is this shit still going?

    62 more pages and then it's a book of pointless bullshit

    Kafia [2480738]

    38 pages would still quality as a novel. It's almost 750 posts. With 50 words per post average, that's still 37.5k words.

    REDROCKETREV [2155045]

    Also has to depend on the story and if it can grip me, it's easy to start off great but can it carry on? But you're right a LOT has been said
    Tl;dr version:

    About 700 posts of "waahhhhh, how could you scam people in a crime game?! wahhhhhh".

    Dont get me wrong, I sympathize with the victim of this scam, its sucks.

    But I also appreciate the fact Torn allows you to do these kind of things. Keeps it interesting.
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    Posted on 22:25:49 - 04/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Patient [2131539]

    Right, those your values, good on you for having them, but they don't mean shit to anyone else but you. All you're doing is promoting this idea that faction leadership is something to trust in without question because.... why? They paid the ~$10m? to make a faction? Or were give access to a vault?

    If anything, this kind of outrage against someone with vault access who takes money is going to lead to more newbies losing money by putting it in their faction's vaults because of the idea that "faction leaders shouldn't steal from their people" which makes it all the more easier for scammers to just start a faction and hope some newbie dumps a ton of cash into the vault because of people with the sentiment you have insist that just because someone is in faction leadership means they should be trusted unconditionally.

    You're not helping anywhere near as much as you think you are.

    Diking [1951369]

    Is it safe to assume you’d also steal from your faction if given the chance?
    Personally I wouldn't. I also wouldn't recommend players just blindly trust people based on faction tags alone. I also wouldn't waste my time beating up someone who stole from a person I have no affiliation with.
    And I still may....
    Offering Detective Agency Services:
    References - 1 million per check - View someone's employment & faction history
    Friend or Foe - 25 million per check - See who's friended / blacklisted someone
    Watchlist - 15 million per delay - Anonymously extend a target's flight time
    Gonna wait it out....
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    Posted on 22:30:23 - 04/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Diking [1951369]

    Is it safe to assume you’d also steal from your faction if given the chance?
    This right here. Some of the commenters here are showing us why they shouldn't be trusted with anything ever. We should believe them.

    Edit: yreew disliked your post (say hi to everyone, yreew)
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    Posted on 22:31:09 - 04/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Roflcopter_001 [1607633]

    https://imgur.com/y1hZzTy
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    already at the top so bump/up

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