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    Posted on 14:46:58 - 02/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Amrak_Dezark [2189876]

    I feel this comes more down to public opinion. People dont want to have this graved. Whereas the second you make a thread that's all people want. See the difference? And 35 pages speaks to atleast some discussion. It may have died off for now but it was there.

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Sure, but two threads on this particular subject is one too many, especially when they've both petered out into PSAs that no longer elicit any significant entertainment or drama. All I see here is a small collection of no-name noobs desperately virtue signalling - in a crime game.

    Amrak_Dezark [2189876]

    Except that speaks to exactly how much the community doesnt want them to be graved furthering my point. If we did we would stop bumping both of them.

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    The community you're speaking about is you and three other people.

    The rest of us are bored. In fact, I may well turn this into a Mr. Bean thread.

    JoeSkull [533524]

    You don't get to arbitrarily decide to change the topic and spam the thread because you don't like it.

    Please stop trying to derail it. It's staff's job to determine what is or isn't appropriate, not yours.

    I've down voted the Mr. Bean gifs not to be a dick, but because they were off topic and irrelevant. If you don't like it, you could try posting relevant posts. I've upvoted your stuff in the past when I thought there was quality.

    Or you can threaten to add me to your chain list I guess because of...karma?

    Kafia [2480738]

    He isn't gonna bother you. You got way bigger stats and way more money than him. There's nothing he can even try to threaten you with


    Some people care way more about torn forum karma rather than actual karma.
    Regardless, I'm more trying to make a point than trying to make an enemy.

    There's been some stuff Sepulchrave has posted before that I've agreed with or liked and he received an upvote from me. I think many players vote like this but when you post something trying to derail a thread, you can't get mad about the appropriate karma and threaten people because of it. Logic isn't there. You can always ignore the thread.

    Nothing personal against Sep. I think he's reasonable enough to realize that this isn't the best course of action, regardless. Also, I'm explaining why he may see a rush of downvotes from me. It's because of derailing posts.
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    Posted on 16:14:51 - 02/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    JoeSkull [533524]

    Regardless, I'm more trying to make a point than trying to make an enemy.

    There's been some stuff Sepulchrave has posted before that I've agreed with or liked and he received an upvote from me. I think many players vote like this but when you post something trying to derail a thread, you can't get mad about the appropriate karma and threaten people because of it. Logic isn't there. You can always ignore the thread.

    Nothing personal against Sep. I think he's reasonable enough to realize that this isn't the best course of action, regardless. Also, I'm explaining why he may see a rush of downvotes from me. It's because of derailing posts.
    Wannabe staff incoming. Get a fooking life.
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    Posted on 23:32:44 - 02/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    JoeSkull [533524]

    Regardless, I'm more trying to make a point than trying to make an enemy.

    There's been some stuff Sepulchrave has posted before that I've agreed with or liked and he received an upvote from me. I think many players vote like this but when you post something trying to derail a thread, you can't get mad about the appropriate karma and threaten people because of it. Logic isn't there. You can always ignore the thread.

    Nothing personal against Sep. I think he's reasonable enough to realize that this isn't the best course of action, regardless. Also, I'm explaining why he may see a rush of downvotes from me. It's because of derailing posts.

    Hermaeus-Mora [2136279]

    Wannabe staff incoming. Get a fooking life.
    Won't be long now... Can I have your stuffs?

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Posted on 23:39:11 - 02/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    JoeSkull [533524]

    Regardless, I'm more trying to make a point than trying to make an enemy.

    There's been some stuff Sepulchrave has posted before that I've agreed with or liked and he received an upvote from me. I think many players vote like this but when you post something trying to derail a thread, you can't get mad about the appropriate karma and threaten people because of it. Logic isn't there. You can always ignore the thread.

    Nothing personal against Sep. I think he's reasonable enough to realize that this isn't the best course of action, regardless. Also, I'm explaining why he may see a rush of downvotes from me. It's because of derailing posts.

    Hermaeus-Mora [2136279]

    Wannabe staff incoming. Get a fooking life.

    Oh_Dae [927477]

    Won't be long now... Can I have your stuffs?
    Feel like if he gives them away he should give back 8nstead of away
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    Posted on 00:57:12 - 03/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Sure, but two threads on this particular subject is one too many, especially when they've both petered out into PSAs that no longer elicit any significant entertainment or drama. All I see here is a small collection of no-name noobs desperately virtue signalling - in a crime game.

    Amrak_Dezark [2189876]

    Except that speaks to exactly how much the community doesnt want them to be graved furthering my point. If we did we would stop bumping both of them.

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    The community you're speaking about is you and three other people.

    The rest of us are bored. In fact, I may well turn this into a Mr. Bean thread.

    JoeSkull [533524]

    You don't get to arbitrarily decide to change the topic and spam the thread because you don't like it.

    Please stop trying to derail it. It's staff's job to determine what is or isn't appropriate, not yours.

    I've down voted the Mr. Bean gifs not to be a dick, but because they were off topic and irrelevant. If you don't like it, you could try posting relevant posts. I've upvoted your stuff in the past when I thought there was quality.

    Or you can threaten to add me to your chain list I guess because of...karma?

    Kafia [2480738]

    He isn't gonna bother you. You got way bigger stats and way more money than him. There's nothing he can even try to threaten you with


    Some people care way more about torn forum karma rather than actual karma.

    JoeSkull [533524]

    Regardless, I'm more trying to make a point than trying to make an enemy.

    There's been some stuff Sepulchrave has posted before that I've agreed with or liked and he received an upvote from me. I think many players vote like this but when you post something trying to derail a thread, you can't get mad about the appropriate karma and threaten people because of it. Logic isn't there. You can always ignore the thread.

    Nothing personal against Sep. I think he's reasonable enough to realize that this isn't the best course of action, regardless. Also, I'm explaining why he may see a rush of downvotes from me. It's because of derailing posts.
    Spamming in general is bad, yes, and I stopped short of a system warning. 

    Frankly, though,I believe that Mr. Bean has a point. Two essentially identical threads continually recycled by the same noob posters for the purpose of shaming 1 artful dodger is also a variety of spam. That's really the purpose of Mr. Bean - he livens up an otherwise redundant and tedious thread.

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    Posted on 08:45:23 - 03/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    JoeSkull [533524]

    Regardless, I'm more trying to make a point than trying to make an enemy.

    There's been some stuff Sepulchrave has posted before that I've agreed with or liked and he received an upvote from me. I think many players vote like this but when you post something trying to derail a thread, you can't get mad about the appropriate karma and threaten people because of it. Logic isn't there. You can always ignore the thread.

    Nothing personal against Sep. I think he's reasonable enough to realize that this isn't the best course of action, regardless. Also, I'm explaining why he may see a rush of downvotes from me. It's because of derailing posts.

    Hermaeus-Mora [2136279]

    Wannabe staff incoming. Get a fooking life.
    i sense alot of anger in you.

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    Posted on 09:40:01 - 03/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Amrak_Dezark [2189876]

    Except that speaks to exactly how much the community doesnt want them to be graved furthering my point. If we did we would stop bumping both of them.

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    The community you're speaking about is you and three other people.

    The rest of us are bored. In fact, I may well turn this into a Mr. Bean thread.

    JoeSkull [533524]

    You don't get to arbitrarily decide to change the topic and spam the thread because you don't like it.

    Please stop trying to derail it. It's staff's job to determine what is or isn't appropriate, not yours.

    I've down voted the Mr. Bean gifs not to be a dick, but because they were off topic and irrelevant. If you don't like it, you could try posting relevant posts. I've upvoted your stuff in the past when I thought there was quality.

    Or you can threaten to add me to your chain list I guess because of...karma?

    Kafia [2480738]

    He isn't gonna bother you. You got way bigger stats and way more money than him. There's nothing he can even try to threaten you with


    Some people care way more about torn forum karma rather than actual karma.

    JoeSkull [533524]

    Regardless, I'm more trying to make a point than trying to make an enemy.

    There's been some stuff Sepulchrave has posted before that I've agreed with or liked and he received an upvote from me. I think many players vote like this but when you post something trying to derail a thread, you can't get mad about the appropriate karma and threaten people because of it. Logic isn't there. You can always ignore the thread.

    Nothing personal against Sep. I think he's reasonable enough to realize that this isn't the best course of action, regardless. Also, I'm explaining why he may see a rush of downvotes from me. It's because of derailing posts.

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Spamming in general is bad, yes, and I stopped short of a system warning.

    Frankly, though,I believe that Mr. Bean has a point. Two essentially identical threads continually recycled by the same noob posters for the purpose of shaming 1 artful dodger is also a variety of spam. That's really the purpose of Mr. Bean - he livens up an otherwise redundant and tedious thread.

    But there isn’t two posts by the same poster. 
    The knob of a scammer changed the title of his post to look the same.


    Was thinking the same myself but it took a second to dig deeper and see what’s going on

    And please don’t stop with the bean posts

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    Posted on 09:41:52 - 03/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Also, to any little tiny-brain who might have just given me 4 consecutive
    downvotes, welcome to my chain list.

    Kafia [2480738]

    You can just name me.
    You're spamming several posts one after the other with stupid gifs, you deserved the downvotes.

    You got so pissed that you went and found 4 of my old posts and downvoted them.
    And you flew to Mexico to avoid a retal.

    You gonna keep flying during your chain too?

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Yes, I'm sure you would love to be named - I can't be bothered.

    As for my flying habits, you'll know more about them the next time we chain.

    As for the rest:


    And again, I repeat, you virtue-signaling white knights are a big part of what's wrong with Torn.
    how is it white knighting? im pretty sure nobody on torn want faction leaders stealing from members, that is the reason we want him out of the game.

    this isent about trade mugging , buy mugging or even other scams. this is about a leader who took all the money that was in the vault that belonged to the members. an act that is so damn degenrate and wrong, that i dont want that person to keep playing, if we dont chase such people out we are enabling that behaviour and more people will do it.
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    Posted on 09:44:14 - 03/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    how is this not on top!
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    Posted on 10:18:57 - 03/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Also, to any little tiny-brain who might have just given me 4 consecutive
    downvotes, welcome to my chain list.

    Kafia [2480738]

    You can just name me.
    You're spamming several posts one after the other with stupid gifs, you deserved the downvotes.

    You got so pissed that you went and found 4 of my old posts and downvoted them.
    And you flew to Mexico to avoid a retal.

    You gonna keep flying during your chain too?

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Yes, I'm sure you would love to be named - I can't be bothered.

    As for my flying habits, you'll know more about them the next time we chain.

    As for the rest:


    And again, I repeat, you virtue-signaling white knights are a big part of what's wrong with Torn.

    Brakier [2095393]

    how is it white knighting? im pretty sure nobody on torn want faction leaders stealing from members, that is the reason we want him out of the game.

    this isent about trade mugging , buy mugging or even other scams. this is about a leader who took all the money that was in the vault that belonged to the members. an act that is so damn degenrate and wrong, that i dont want that person to keep playing, if we dont chase such people out we are enabling that behaviour and more people will do it.
    This is 100% white knighting.
    Torn is a morally relativistic universe.
    The line you have drawn in the sand is artificial and ridiculous.
    It makes more sense to applaud H-M for his low cunning, which is certainly a virtue in Torn.

    Don't get me wrong - I believe in personal vengeance. If you hate someone, destroy her.

    But bounties don't work - I know that from being on both sides of the coin. In fact, being at
    the center of a bounty war is some of the best fun I've had in Torn...because they don't work.
    Last night I took a 500K bounty off H-M, but first I had to wait 20 mins for my e to build.
    That's 20 minutes of freedom with a half-mill bounty on him. I guess you'd better up the ante.

    And these stupid threads sure as hell won't work, they're just breeding grounds for pathetic
    mouth breeders attempting to make up for their diminutive manhoods by forming a morally-
    outraged forum mob. Honestly, it's pathetic.

    And beyond that - H-M is having a good laugh at all of you and you still haven't figured out why.

    Moral outrage appears to make people unobservant...if not stupid.

    EDIT: Sorry, forgot the mr. bean gif!


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    Brakier [2095393]

    how is it white knighting? im pretty sure nobody on torn want faction leaders stealing from members, that is the reason we want him out of the game.

    this isent about trade mugging , buy mugging or even other scams. this is about a leader who took all the money that was in the vault that belonged to the members. an act that is so damn degenrate and wrong, that i dont want that person to keep playing, if we dont chase such people out we are enabling that behaviour and more people will do it.
    I sense more anger in you. I'm going nowhere, pal. Does it make you furious that my thread got so many upvotes? Does it make you upset that i've still managed to pop all my xanax and make the same progress? Are you....going to cry? Hope we're on same elim team, homie! I'll whip you into shape!
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    Posted on 10:43:45 - 03/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Marvellous torn citizens! You did a great job doing the mr bean one.

    Marvellous

    Whats this

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    Posted on 10:46:47 - 03/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    HOW IS THIS NOT ON TOP

    SeeingHermanly-moray in hospital

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    Posted on 10:54:40 - 03/09/21 (1 month ago)
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    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Also, to any little tiny-brain who might have just given me 4 consecutive
    downvotes, welcome to my chain list.

    Kafia [2480738]

    You can just name me.
    You're spamming several posts one after the other with stupid gifs, you deserved the downvotes.

    You got so pissed that you went and found 4 of my old posts and downvoted them.
    And you flew to Mexico to avoid a retal.

    You gonna keep flying during your chain too?

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Yes, I'm sure you would love to be named - I can't be bothered.

    As for my flying habits, you'll know more about them the next time we chain.

    As for the rest:


    And again, I repeat, you virtue-signaling white knights are a big part of what's wrong with Torn.

    Brakier [2095393]

    how is it white knighting? im pretty sure nobody on torn want faction leaders stealing from members, that is the reason we want him out of the game.

    this isent about trade mugging , buy mugging or even other scams. this is about a leader who took all the money that was in the vault that belonged to the members. an act that is so damn degenrate and wrong, that i dont want that person to keep playing, if we dont chase such people out we are enabling that behaviour and more people will do it.

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    This is 100% white knighting.
    Torn is a morally relativistic universe.
    The line you have drawn in the sand is artificial and ridiculous.
    It makes more sense to applaud H-M for his low cunning, which is certainly a virtue in Torn.

    Don't get me wrong - I believe in personal vengeance. If you hate someone, destroy her.

    But bounties don't work - I know that from being on both sides of the coin. In fact, being at
    the center of a bounty war is some of the best fun I've had in Torn...because they don't work.
    Last night I took a 500K bounty off H-M, but first I had to wait 20 mins for my e to build.
    That's 20 minutes of freedom with a half-mill bounty on him. I guess you'd better up the ante.

    And these stupid threads sure as hell won't work, they're just breeding grounds for pathetic
    mouth breeders attempting to make up for their diminutive manhoods by forming a morally-
    outraged forum mob. Honestly, it's pathetic.

    And beyond that - H-M is having a good laugh at all of you and you still haven't figured out why.

    Moral outrage appears to make people unobservant...if not stupid.

    EDIT: Sorry, forgot the mr. bean gif!


    you do have some good points, but i do think the forum has helpt. like look at his enemie count, its gonna be hard finding a director,faction or trade with over 700 enemies on your profile, and only 50 friends in comparision.



    also you should probly remove fast flashing image before you get a warning seziures inducing gif
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    Roflcopter_001 [1607633]

    haven't quoted myself on this page yet

    oh and bump/up/mr bean
    seizure gifs... tentacles this situation gives me deja vu

    oh and bump/up

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    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Also, to any little tiny-brain who might have just given me 4 consecutive
    downvotes, welcome to my chain list.

    Kafia [2480738]

    You can just name me.
    You're spamming several posts one after the other with stupid gifs, you deserved the downvotes.

    You got so pissed that you went and found 4 of my old posts and downvoted them.
    And you flew to Mexico to avoid a retal.

    You gonna keep flying during your chain too?

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Yes, I'm sure you would love to be named - I can't be bothered.

    As for my flying habits, you'll know more about them the next time we chain.

    As for the rest:


    And again, I repeat, you virtue-signaling white knights are a big part of what's wrong with Torn.

    Brakier [2095393]

    how is it white knighting? im pretty sure nobody on torn want faction leaders stealing from members, that is the reason we want him out of the game.

    this isent about trade mugging , buy mugging or even other scams. this is about a leader who took all the money that was in the vault that belonged to the members. an act that is so damn degenrate and wrong, that i dont want that person to keep playing, if we dont chase such people out we are enabling that behaviour and more people will do it.

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    This is 100% white knighting.
    Torn is a morally relativistic universe.
    The line you have drawn in the sand is artificial and ridiculous.
    It makes more sense to applaud H-M for his low cunning, which is certainly a virtue in Torn.

    Don't get me wrong - I believe in personal vengeance. If you hate someone, destroy her.

    But bounties don't work - I know that from being on both sides of the coin. In fact, being at
    the center of a bounty war is some of the best fun I've had in Torn...because they don't work.
    Last night I took a 500K bounty off H-M, but first I had to wait 20 mins for my e to build.
    That's 20 minutes of freedom with a half-mill bounty on him. I guess you'd better up the ante.

    And these stupid threads sure as hell won't work, they're just breeding grounds for pathetic
    mouth breeders attempting to make up for their diminutive manhoods by forming a morally-
    outraged forum mob. Honestly, it's pathetic.

    And beyond that - H-M is having a good laugh at all of you and you still haven't figured out why.

    Moral outrage appears to make people unobservant...if not stupid.

    EDIT: Sorry, forgot the mr. bean gif!


    Since you finally posted a sensible opinion instead of stupid unrelated gifs, have my upvote. have another downvote because you intentionally posted a bright flashing gif. (Edit: You changed the gif after being reported. What happened to stopping short of a system warning? Anyway, I've linked your original gif below for others who missed it)


    This is what you're missing, however - You're white knighting for Herm as much as you claim that other people are whiteknighting against him.
    Do you not see the line in the sand that you're drawing? It's just as artificial and ridiculous.
    What makes more sense to you doesn't make sense to others. What makes sense to them is not making sense to you. And your intellectual superior POV makes you unable to see other POVS, which is ironic.


    If you care to read an essay -
    -------------------
    This is not white knighting. This is spite. This is fun. This is a game.

    No one cares for the noob who got scammed. People hate Hermaeus-Mora [2136279]. Hermaeus-Mora intentionally drew the hate and attention towards him - for whatever reason in his head - and he got it. And now, whether he likes the attention or regrets it, or what people do or don't do, is not upto him or anyone else - it's upto the people whose attention he caught. It's about who gets bored first of this website torn.com.

    People don't have much else to do in this game after a point, and this caught several peoples interest for various reasons - either they're bored, and need something to do, or they want to gang up and make someone quit the game for sadistic reasons, or they want to make an example out of his actions, or they just want to bully someone but need a good target so they don't get targeted back - everyone has their own reasons, but the common thing they all have is a single target of attention on Torn - Herm.
    This case also caught peoples attention because it's unique and not something people have seen countless times before (noobs getting buy mugged, trade cancelling, vault thiefs etc).

    The entire world is morally relativistic, not just Torn. Dolphins gang **** each other. Slavery in USA was legal till 1850s. And even in 1900s there were cases of lynched African Americans and humiliating their dead bodies. (Lmk if you want a link, it's too graphic to post here)
    At the same time, there were anti-slavers even before 1850, and there were people who supported African American rights in 1900s.
    And that's what leads to moral relativism - peoples having different opinions and values, with none of them being right or wrong.
    Same shit here. And moral relativism is unrelated to what's socially accepted. And what Herm did is not accepted at Torn.
    And "personal vengeance" is not always possible for everyone every time. Not everyone has the same starting point and time and conditions. That's why communities support each other - both in the real world and in torn.


    Bounties do work - on some people. We won't find out if they work on Herm or not for a loooong time.
    The difference between you and Herm getting in bounty wars is that you may have had supporters. Herm is by himself. People against him have lots of support.
    Anyone supporting Herm publicly is also getting tagged as "potential scammer. Do not trust".


    These stupid threads do work - his enemy count is going up day by day. Not everyone is active enough to read the forums every day or even every week - even I've taken months long breaks from Torn or torn forums. And the threads are keeping the people against him united. Two threads may be a bit much, but blame Herm for creating the second one. He's just drawing more attention to him intentionally.
    Even staff has made their stand clear by letting both the threads stay, but you people just refuse to see it. There's no official rule against vault theft, but even Ched wants a "trust" factor in the game, otherwise why introduce Trades, self hosping, and faction banking with limited perms?


    You think that everyone's too stupid to see that Herm is drawing attention to himself intentionally (and that he plans to stick it out and prove everyone else wrong) - that's just your intellectual superiority, and it's just as pathetic as the thing you're hating on (others "morally superior mob mentality").
    You just picked a different poison to make up for your diminutive manhood by taking a "intellectually-superior" stand, posting "nooby nobodies" (despite you being a nooby nobody yourself), "morally superior blah blah shit" (despite being intellectually superior yourself), stupid gifs etc. - constantly begging for peoples attention and derailing the thread. Even going so far as to intentionally posting a seizure inducing image on a public forum?
    And your intellectual superiority makes you think that people don't realize it (do you also think that anyone who's triggered by that gif is "lower than you"?)

    And you don't see that Herm's losing his temper slowly - he's acting out now and then. He's trying to target one person at a time and trying to make them quit picking on him, because he realizes he's bit off more than he can chew. He's trying out different things to see what works and what doesn't work.


    Since you've edited the gif after your post being reported, here's a link to the gif you originally posted (WARNING - bright and flashing gif)


    "Intellectual" outrage, ironically, appears to make people seem stupid...if not unobservant.

    P.S. Do you think that using DuckDuckGo makes you intellectually superior too?
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    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Also, to any little tiny-brain who might have just given me 4 consecutive
    downvotes, welcome to my chain list.

    Kafia [2480738]

    You can just name me.
    You're spamming several posts one after the other with stupid gifs, you deserved the downvotes.

    You got so pissed that you went and found 4 of my old posts and downvoted them.
    And you flew to Mexico to avoid a retal.

    You gonna keep flying during your chain too?

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    Yes, I'm sure you would love to be named - I can't be bothered.

    As for my flying habits, you'll know more about them the next time we chain.

    As for the rest:


    And again, I repeat, you virtue-signaling white knights are a big part of what's wrong with Torn.

    Brakier [2095393]

    how is it white knighting? im pretty sure nobody on torn want faction leaders stealing from members, that is the reason we want him out of the game.

    this isent about trade mugging , buy mugging or even other scams. this is about a leader who took all the money that was in the vault that belonged to the members. an act that is so damn degenrate and wrong, that i dont want that person to keep playing, if we dont chase such people out we are enabling that behaviour and more people will do it.

    Sepulchrave [2092631]

    This is 100% white knighting.
    Torn is a morally relativistic universe.
    The line you have drawn in the sand is artificial and ridiculous.
    It makes more sense to applaud H-M for his low cunning, which is certainly a virtue in Torn.

    Don't get me wrong - I believe in personal vengeance. If you hate someone, destroy her.

    But bounties don't work - I know that from being on both sides of the coin. In fact, being at
    the center of a bounty war is some of the best fun I've had in Torn...because they don't work.
    Last night I took a 500K bounty off H-M, but first I had to wait 20 mins for my e to build.
    That's 20 minutes of freedom with a half-mill bounty on him. I guess you'd better up the ante.

    And these stupid threads sure as hell won't work, they're just breeding grounds for pathetic
    mouth breeders attempting to make up for their diminutive manhoods by forming a morally-
    outraged forum mob. Honestly, it's pathetic.

    And beyond that - H-M is having a good laugh at all of you and you still haven't figured out why.

    Moral outrage appears to make people unobservant...if not stupid.

    EDIT: Sorry, forgot the mr. bean gif!


    Brakier [2095393]

    you do have some good points, but i do think the forum has helpt. like look at his enemie count, its gonna be hard finding a director,faction or trade with over 700 enemies on your profile, and only 50 friends in comparision.



    also you should probly remove fast flashing image before you get a warning seziures inducing gif
    For most people, pretty much the only thing that keeps Torn worth playing is the community aspect.
    Sudden riches makes the game fun for a while, but doesn't keep it fun for long.

    An empty faction, no company, and "universally not trusted with anything ever" - most people will quit.
    If they don't quit and still play, all the more power to them.
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    Kafia [2480738]

    Since you finally posted a sensible opinion instead of stupid unrelated gifs, have my upvote. have another downvote because you intentionally posted a bright flashing gif. (Edit: You changed the gif after being reported. What happened to stopping short of a system warning? Anyway, I've linked your original gif below for others who missed it)


    This is what you're missing, however - You're white knighting for Herm as much as you claim that other people are whiteknighting against him.
    Do you not see the line in the sand that you're drawing? It's just as artificial and ridiculous.
    What makes more sense to you doesn't make sense to others. What makes sense to them is not making sense to you. And your intellectual superior POV makes you unable to see other POVS, which is ironic.


    If you care to read an essay -
    -------------------
    This is not white knighting. This is spite. This is fun. This is a game.

    No one cares for the noob who got scammed. People hate Hermaeus-Mora [2136279]. Hermaeus-Mora intentionally drew the hate and attention towards him - for whatever reason in his head - and he got it. And now, whether he likes the attention or regrets it, or what people do or don't do, is not upto him or anyone else - it's upto the people whose attention he caught. It's about who gets bored first of this website torn.com.

    People don't have much else to do in this game after a point, and this caught several peoples interest for various reasons - either they're bored, and need something to do, or they want to gang up and make someone quit the game for sadistic reasons, or they want to make an example out of his actions, or they just want to bully someone but need a good target so they don't get targeted back - everyone has their own reasons, but the common thing they all have is a single target of attention on Torn - Herm.
    This case also caught peoples attention because it's unique and not something people have seen countless times before (noobs getting buy mugged, trade cancelling, vault thiefs etc).

    The entire world is morally relativistic, not just Torn. Dolphins gang **** each other. Slavery in USA was legal till 1850s. And even in 1900s there were cases of lynched African Americans and humiliating their dead bodies. (Lmk if you want a link, it's too graphic to post here)
    At the same time, there were anti-slavers even before 1850, and there were people who supported African American rights in 1900s.
    And that's what leads to moral relativism - peoples having different opinions and values, with none of them being right or wrong.
    Same shit here. And moral relativism is unrelated to what's socially accepted. And what Herm did is not accepted at Torn.
    And "personal vengeance" is not always possible for everyone every time. Not everyone has the same starting point and time and conditions. That's why communities support each other - both in the real world and in torn.


    Bounties do work - on some people. We won't find out if they work on Herm or not for a loooong time.
    The difference between you and Herm getting in bounty wars is that you may have had supporters. Herm is by himself. People against him have lots of support.
    Anyone supporting Herm publicly is also getting tagged as "potential scammer. Do not trust".


    These stupid threads do work - his enemy count is going up day by day. Not everyone is active enough to read the forums every day or even every week - even I've taken months long breaks from Torn or torn forums. And the threads are keeping the people against him united. Two threads may be a bit much, but blame Herm for creating the second one. He's just drawing more attention to him intentionally.
    Even staff has made their stand clear by letting both the threads stay, but you people just refuse to see it. There's no official rule against vault theft, but even Ched wants a "trust" factor in the game, otherwise why introduce Trades, self hosping, and faction banking with limited perms?


    You think that everyone's too stupid to see that Herm is drawing attention to himself intentionally (and that he plans to stick it out and prove everyone else wrong) - that's just your intellectual superiority, and it's just as pathetic as the thing you're hating on (others "morally superior mob mentality").
    You just picked a different poison to make up for your diminutive manhood by taking a "intellectually-superior" stand, posting "nooby nobodies" (despite you being a nooby nobody yourself), "morally superior blah blah shit" (despite being intellectually superior yourself), stupid gifs etc. - constantly begging for peoples attention and derailing the thread. Even going so far as to intentionally posting a seizure inducing image on a public forum?
    And your intellectual superiority makes you think that people don't realize it (do you also think that anyone who's triggered by that gif is "lower than you"?)

    And you don't see that Herm's losing his temper slowly - he's acting out now and then. He's trying to target one person at a time and trying to make them quit picking on him, because he realizes he's bit off more than he can chew. He's trying out different things to see what works and what doesn't work.


    Since you've edited the gif after your post being reported, here's a link to the gif you originally posted (WARNING - bright and flashing gif)


    "Intellectual" outrage, ironically, appears to make people seem stupid...if not unobservant.

    P.S. Do you think that using DuckDuckGo makes you intellectually superior too?
    No one is reading that shit, bro. Get a fooooking life.
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    Kafia [2480738]

    Since you finally posted a sensible opinion instead of stupid unrelated gifs, have my upvote. have another downvote because you intentionally posted a bright flashing gif. (Edit: You changed the gif after being reported. What happened to stopping short of a system warning? Anyway, I've linked your original gif below for others who missed it)


    This is what you're missing, however - You're white knighting for Herm as much as you claim that other people are whiteknighting against him.
    Do you not see the line in the sand that you're drawing? It's just as artificial and ridiculous.
    What makes more sense to you doesn't make sense to others. What makes sense to them is not making sense to you. And your intellectual superior POV makes you unable to see other POVS, which is ironic.


    If you care to read an essay -
    -------------------
    This is not white knighting. This is spite. This is fun. This is a game.

    No one cares for the noob who got scammed. People hate Hermaeus-Mora [2136279]. Hermaeus-Mora intentionally drew the hate and attention towards him - for whatever reason in his head - and he got it. And now, whether he likes the attention or regrets it, or what people do or don't do, is not upto him or anyone else - it's upto the people whose attention he caught. It's about who gets bored first of this website torn.com.

    People don't have much else to do in this game after a point, and this caught several peoples interest for various reasons - either they're bored, and need something to do, or they want to gang up and make someone quit the game for sadistic reasons, or they want to make an example out of his actions, or they just want to bully someone but need a good target so they don't get targeted back - everyone has their own reasons, but the common thing they all have is a single target of attention on Torn - Herm.
    This case also caught peoples attention because it's unique and not something people have seen countless times before (noobs getting buy mugged, trade cancelling, vault thiefs etc).

    The entire world is morally relativistic, not just Torn. Dolphins gang **** each other. Slavery in USA was legal till 1850s. And even in 1900s there were cases of lynched African Americans and humiliating their dead bodies. (Lmk if you want a link, it's too graphic to post here)
    At the same time, there were anti-slavers even before 1850, and there were people who supported African American rights in 1900s.
    And that's what leads to moral relativism - peoples having different opinions and values, with none of them being right or wrong.
    Same shit here. And moral relativism is unrelated to what's socially accepted. And what Herm did is not accepted at Torn.
    And "personal vengeance" is not always possible for everyone every time. Not everyone has the same starting point and time and conditions. That's why communities support each other - both in the real world and in torn.


    Bounties do work - on some people. We won't find out if they work on Herm or not for a loooong time.
    The difference between you and Herm getting in bounty wars is that you may have had supporters. Herm is by himself. People against him have lots of support.
    Anyone supporting Herm publicly is also getting tagged as "potential scammer. Do not trust".


    These stupid threads do work - his enemy count is going up day by day. Not everyone is active enough to read the forums every day or even every week - even I've taken months long breaks from Torn or torn forums. And the threads are keeping the people against him united. Two threads may be a bit much, but blame Herm for creating the second one. He's just drawing more attention to him intentionally.
    Even staff has made their stand clear by letting both the threads stay, but you people just refuse to see it. There's no official rule against vault theft, but even Ched wants a "trust" factor in the game, otherwise why introduce Trades, self hosping, and faction banking with limited perms?


    You think that everyone's too stupid to see that Herm is drawing attention to himself intentionally (and that he plans to stick it out and prove everyone else wrong) - that's just your intellectual superiority, and it's just as pathetic as the thing you're hating on (others "morally superior mob mentality").
    You just picked a different poison to make up for your diminutive manhood by taking a "intellectually-superior" stand, posting "nooby nobodies" (despite you being a nooby nobody yourself), "morally superior blah blah shit" (despite being intellectually superior yourself), stupid gifs etc. - constantly begging for peoples attention and derailing the thread. Even going so far as to intentionally posting a seizure inducing image on a public forum?
    And your intellectual superiority makes you think that people don't realize it (do you also think that anyone who's triggered by that gif is "lower than you"?)

    And you don't see that Herm's losing his temper slowly - he's acting out now and then. He's trying to target one person at a time and trying to make them quit picking on him, because he realizes he's bit off more than he can chew. He's trying out different things to see what works and what doesn't work.


    Since you've edited the gif after your post being reported, here's a link to the gif you originally posted (WARNING - bright and flashing gif)


    "Intellectual" outrage, ironically, appears to make people seem stupid...if not unobservant.

    P.S. Do you think that using DuckDuckGo makes you intellectually superior too?

    Hermaeus-Mora [2136279]

    No one is reading that shit, bro. Get a fooooking life.
    Bro, you're getting too predictable and boring.

    You just won me a $1mil bet that you/sepul/both will reply "TL;DR" or something of the sort. Thanks <3
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    Hermaeus-Mora [2136279]

    I sense more anger in you. I'm going nowhere, pal. Does it make you furious that my thread got so many upvotes? Does it make you upset that i've still managed to pop all my xanax and make the same progress? Are you....going to cry? Hope we're on same elim team, homie! I'll whip you into shape!
    Notice to elim leaders: Do not take him on your team. He will sell you out for 7b.
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