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    Thread created on 13:46:35 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    Is Torn's economy going out of control is future going to get even more expensive
    The rising prices in torn are astonishing, what will be the outcome of these prices and the future of Torn

    In the past Beers and Candys have peaked at Extraordinary prices on certain events and competitions, but have dropped as fast as the peaks after events
    but the current trend is looking every different too past events and is showing a steady slow climb and looks to continue in the future

    Beers $10 from Bits n Bobs for years have been under $1,000 and only show high pricing before 2018

    Big Box of Chocolate Bars $N/A but have sold at steady prices around $3,000 again peaked before 2018

    These Slow but sure climbs in prices are continuing and people with low incomes are being affected

    One of the reasons this may be happening is that warring in Torn has ceased and more people are training and doing crimes
    Just take a look at the City Now, has it become a Ghost Town

    More sweets used for Training, more crimes more beers, the Circulations of beer and sweet continue to grow 7m beers 82m sweets
    So why are the prices going up and not down if they are so many available

    It is clearly caused by traders getting too greedy and hauling all the stocks, It is the bazaars that set the prices and not the peoples market they just following inline trying to sell lower than bazaars trying to set trend, only to be bought out by traders to be sold at higher prices

    what can we do about this, can the people rebel
    sadly not
    We have no control, mugging and beating up traders will not end it

    the only thing that affects pricing and use of sweets and beers would be wars, which we badly need and waited years for it to happen

    This there an End to this, where is it taking us

    Post your Comments Now
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    Posted on 13:50:26 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    I feel like you should have ended that by saying thanks for coming to my Ted talks.

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    Posted on 13:54:32 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    TORN is low key becoming like runescape

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    Posted on 13:56:12 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    You have been doomsaying for the past 4185 days Lou, every so often you just pop up saying the game is doomed to fail, well look at it now, 10 years after you first started doomsaying the game is still here alive and well.

    Not sure your word has much credibility left.

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    Posted on 13:57:22 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    Capitalism is a bitch.


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    Posted on 14:00:27 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    You have been doomsaying for the past 4185 days Lou, every so often you just pop up saying the game is doomed to fail, well look at it now, 10 years after you first started doomsaying the game is still here alive and well.

    Not sure your word has much credibility left.
    then days were very different to now
    everything had its ups and downs and many wars
    this dull lull of doing nothing is affecting torn in ways not seen before
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    Posted on 14:07:58 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    Harley [258120]

    You have been doomsaying for the past 4185 days Lou, every so often you just pop up saying the game is doomed to fail, well look at it now, 10 years after you first started doomsaying the game is still here alive and well.

    Not sure your word has much credibility left.

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    then days were very different to now
    everything had its ups and downs and many wars
    this dull lull of doing nothing is affecting torn in ways not seen before
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    Posted on 14:34:23 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    The end is near.

    Quit now and save yourself some pain


    ...and save the rest of us from posts like this.

     

     

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    Posted on 14:39:34 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    ORAN [1778676]

    TORN is low key becoming like runescape
    Does that make BB Zezima?

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    Posted on 14:42:54 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    ORAN [1778676]

    TORN is low key becoming like runescape
    I dunno, I'm much more ashamed to say I play torn than to say I play runescape (osrs gang)

    Everything here is viewable by the public.

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    Posted on 14:43:14 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    ORAN [1778676]

    TORN is low key becoming like runescape

    Chit [1380260]

    Does that make BB Zezima?
    youngblaze was zezima

    Everything here is viewable by the public.

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    Posted on 14:45:18 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    Them traders.... real jerks.
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    Posted on 14:51:48 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    There are a lot of new players in the game and they are affecting the markets a lot of them are trading. On market changes, things do change over time but sometimes the change is forced.

    Its funny you mention big box of chocolates. There is at least 1 player who collects them, also i do know a field mouse who is actively 'fixing' them. He does have a team of smaller field mice helping him as well

    And they are fixing other stuff as well. I dont know him that well i have only had a few chats with him.

    Collecting is a massive thing in this game. I have always ran a bazaar for collectors and i do sell a LOT of stuff.

    Big Box of Chocolates are also a useful item for the new player who wants to boost happy on a budget. They do give a nice amount of happy, that will always fuel the market for them.

    A lot of intrepid field mice are not rich enough for EDVD or more expensive candies. But they do what they can to train with higher happy ie big boxes of chocolates.

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    Posted on 15:03:16 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    I dunno, I'm much more ashamed to say I play torn than to say I play runescape (osrs gang)
    Ashaned*
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    Posted on 15:10:53 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    ORAN [1778676]

    TORN is low key becoming like runescape
    Played RS3 for 17 years (obviously prior to RS2 and following) but I know exactly what you mean. I took a year break from RS and the economy collapsed when they introduced P2W. Something that took a LONG time to get suddenly dropped 1000% in price lol
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    Posted on 15:45:27 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    Posted on 15:54:39 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    That's had other effects too - for one, expensive EDVDs were a huge factor of what drove people to Big Boxes of Chocolates, which in turn caused a price hike and an overall drop in EDVDs being bought as everyone opted for the cheaper option. That's brought down EDVD prices, and frankly will some more, so that they're affordable to newbies again.

    Do I think warring will help? Certainly! It would also make cans/FHCs more expensive which will affect mid-tier players in the way that you said affected low level players. That's how economies work, no one makes bank all the time.

    What would help even more, I think, is for staff to add new ways to get in-demand items in to the game. Players adapt, the Torn community's ingenious is what kept it going for so long. So long as the game allows room for said adaptation, it'll work, might just not be as fun.
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    Posted on 16:27:20 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    I feel like playing tychoon sometimes ratherthan rts game tbh.

    Well about price, it fluctuates no?
    Edvd is up, big box of choc is up, but xanax afaik has been down. Iirc it was 840k when I first joined and now 832k. While donator pack price is going up.
    This is mainly because lock down and global econ crisis imo. Many new players and returners people were in Q&A forum that had been asking questions about train. And some of them stated the covid lock down brought them to torn. N their number was just the tip of the iceberg. I believe there were a lot morethan the ones who posted.

    It will be back normal soon. You can see edvd price is going down, bbchoc is stable, and xanax is climbing up. Probably because the new players has passed the hj train period and enter 3x xanax a day train. And also lock down is over. Many players become less active than they were during lock down. However I don't see the world can escape global econ crisis anytime soon. So I think many ppl irl just don't have much money to spend in the game and they start buying donator packs with game money.

    Med kits will never be the same anymore. That's because the new change in waring. But I still believe morphine and blood bags will rise during elim days. While fak n sfak will not. I think fhc will be up to 15 mill but edvd will crash a lot more during elim.

    Idt think traders have that magic power as you described to control the price for that long. Go ahead try on sfak and fak. If supply is way bigger than demand, no matter how much you hoard the items to jack up the price, you end up losing money imo.

    Also reason why bbchoc is expensive is because we have crime guides. More people are informed that stealing chocolates is not worth losing our crime exp by going to jail.

    Ps: since this is very technical discussion, pardon for my grammar error here and there. I hope I explained my points perfectly tho. Thx
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    Posted on 17:23:56 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    ORAN [1778676]

    TORN is low key becoming like runescape

    2480971 [2480971]

    Played RS3 for 17 years (obviously prior to RS2 and following) but I know exactly what you mean. I took a year break from RS and the economy collapsed when they introduced P2W. Something that took a LONG time to get suddenly dropped 1000% in price lol
    Cringe! Relatable...I spent a lot of years slaving away for full dragon's armor in the pre-grand exchange days, long before you could spend real money on game money. Had to earn everything... later I came back and dragon's armor was shit, there'd be hundreds of people stacked around the banks in the GE, skilling hard and rotating their inventories, all that's needed to level up is to buy the right materials and supplies,do the thing, sell, buy more, repeat, etc. Holy crap, ruined the game for me. 

    I imagine that would be the equivalent of quitting torn for, say, 5 years, coming back and your private island is crap compared to the intergallactic space ship 1, 2, 3 (6k, 7k, 8k max happiness), the gak you spent 25b on is now still worth 25b, but you can make 25b in the game within 3 hours of laser-fighting on planet tornitronx, but to get access to that you have to be level 42 in a special members only skill which turns out is different than your sub , not to mention there are now 17 better primaries, valued at 700-15Trillion each, and *everyone* has them..

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    Posted on 17:36:37 - 31/08/20 (1 year ago)
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    hemi [2165616]

    Cringe! Relatable...I spent a lot of years slaving away for full dragon's armor in the pre-grand exchange days, long before you could spend real money on game money. Had to earn everything... later I came back and dragon's armor was shit, there'd be hundreds of people stacked around the banks in the GE, skilling hard and rotating their inventories, all that's needed to level up is to buy the right materials and supplies,do the thing, sell, buy more, repeat, etc. Holy crap, ruined the game for me.

    I imagine that would be the equivalent of quitting torn for, say, 5 years, coming back and your private island is crap compared to the intergallactic space ship 1, 2, 3 (6k, 7k, 8k max happiness), the gak you spent 25b on is now still worth 25b, but you can make 25b in the game within 3 hours of laser-fighting on planet tornitronx, but to get access to that you have to be level 42 in a special members only skill which turns out is different than your sub , not to mention there are now 17 better primaries, valued at 700-15Trillion each, and *everyone* has them..

    Made me laugh at the end of a long hard day haha, so true!
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