Can you replicate the issue in Incognito window with all of your scripts and extensions/VPN turned off?
Scamming page + Chrome == system crashes.
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Thread created on 21:20:28 - 12/06/25 (25 days ago)|Last replied 08:07:04 - 15/06/25 (22 days ago)
This is a weird one and not exactly consistent.
The scamming page plus chrome makes my system intermittently shut down. Black screen.
Notes/things I've tried:
- Nothing showing up in the logs because it shuts down before anything can be logged. I do see some entries about unexpected powering down (like, duh, thanks Windows).
- Even when it doesn't crash the scamming page causes system lag and jumpiness.
- Happens with or without extensions enabled.
- Does NOT happen in Edge, but...
- Will happen if I have Chrome open and hit the scamming page in Edge (that one messed with my head).
- Is not consistent at all...
- Sometimes happens within a few min of starting chrome (with scamming being one of the tabs)
- Sometimes I can leave scamming up for hours and it wont crash.
- Time is wildly varying both under load (IE 16 VMs) and no load (only chrome).
- Time also varies wildly with or without extensions.
Happy to clarify/experiment.
My details:
Operating System: Windows 11 Pro 64-bit (10.0, Build 26100)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
System Model: ROG Strix G733PZ_G733PZ
BIOS: G733PZ.334Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX with Radeon Graphics
Memory: 98304MB RAMPage file: 17620MB used, 86018MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 12Name: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Laptop GPU
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip Type: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Laptop GPU
DAC Type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Type: Full Display Device
Approx. Total Memory: 60744 MB
Display Memory 11997 MB
Shared Memory: 48747 MB -
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Posted on 17:39:56 - 13/06/25 (24 days ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
I'll give it a go today.
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Posted on 17:49:33 - 13/06/25 (24 days ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
Yep, still crashed just now.
Incognito, all extensions off. Just sitting there on the scamming page.
I >thought< it was tired to actually having a scam read and in progress but i was only searching for new scams and... black screen.
So weird.
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Posted on 23:51:13 - 13/06/25 (24 days ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
The crash this morning didn't even show up (as is usually the case with these because chrome has no chance to write anything).
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Posted on 02:33:43 - 14/06/25 (24 days ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
Ok, newest weird wrinkle...
Scamming page in Edge... runs fine. Open for hours with no issues.
Fine, maybe chrome is the issue?
Scamming page in Edge... Chrome open WITHOUT TORN... Runs fine for hours.
But...
The INSTANT I open Torn in Chrome (https://www.torn.com/index.php not the scamming page)... >>POOF!< BSOD/shutdown.
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Posted on 06:41:00 - 14/06/25 (23 days ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
Like... the windows BSOD??
If so, that's a bug much deeper than torn itself, either chrome or windows or something in between. Try reinstall chrome and see if that fixes the issue? I get it's a pain, but a site shouldn't be able to BSOD your computer at all...
What stopcode are you getting?
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Posted on 22:15:14 - 14/06/25 (23 days ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
Sorry... BLACK SCREEN... not Blue Screen. So most of the time the only code is after the fact complaining about a "no power button shutdown".
And yeah, I get you. I'm a CS nerd (BS in CS, MS in Cyber, A+ Sec+ CISSP... blah blah blah) I've had the machine level courses web dev courses, etc...
I know this machine has got some underlying power issues. Windows SHOULD "sacrifice" Chrome to save itself. But some weird ass shit is going on for it to ONLY happen on torn.com scamming page AND ONLY when Chrome is running (regardless of what browser scamming page is open on).
PLENTY of other people complain about how laggy it is so it's not JUST my buggy ass machine.
I'm pretty sure it's something with the graphic background and how chrome accesses the video card. Because the crash happens even with no scams going.
I am at a loss as to why scamming on Edge + Torn on Chrome (any Torn page) = crash. But I never went deep enough into web design and resource calls and all that. I'm just testing different stuff to see what triggers it.
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Posted on 22:18:34 - 14/06/25 (23 days ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
I did reinstall Chrome. When I saw the bug wouldn't replicate in Edge (or mobile Chrome).
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Posted on 22:25:40 - 14/06/25 (23 days ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
SEEMS like it's Chrome's GPU pipeline.
chatGPT FTW: Bottom Line: You're likely dealing with a Chrome → GPU → WebGL rendering issue specific to that Torn page's content.
This seems to have stopped the bug for the moment (scamming page open right now on Chrome):
Step 1: Disable Chrome Hardware Acceleration
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In Chrome:
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Go to:
chrome://settings/system
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Disable "Use hardware acceleration when available"
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Restart Chrome.
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Then try loading the Torn page again.
👉 If this resolves it — it's very likely a GPU rendering issue specific to Chrome's hardware acceleration path.
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Posted on 22:28:26 - 14/06/25 (23 days ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
Highly likely root cause:
Chrome, with hardware acceleration enabled, was tripping over some combination of:
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Chromium’s WebGL / ANGLE rendering pipeline
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NVIDIA’s Laptop Ada driver (4080 mobile GPUs have a few known quirks esp. with dynamic power switching)
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Windows 11's new GPU Hardware Scheduling (HAGS) + WDDM 3.2+ stack
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Torn.com’s rendering (possibly heavy dynamic canvas or WebGL-based rendering on that scamming page)
The interaction between Chromium → ANGLE (DirectX backend) → NVIDIA Optimus/Dynamic MUX → Windows 11 HAGS is where this kind of thing tends to happen.
Why Edge works:
Even though Edge is Chromium-based, Microsoft ships a slightly different graphics pipeline with more fallback paths, and it may handle memory/resource contention differently than Chrome’s pure upstream Chromium build.
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Posted on 22:29:39 - 14/06/25 (23 days ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
TLDR: Hey Torn, could we have a "disable fancy rendering" button? Cause it makes the page laggy as heck, even for a BEAST of a system.
edit: I'm just going to leave HW accel off for now... I doubt anything I do on the web really NEEDS it, and a game touted as being lightweight/easily accessible certainly shouldn't NEED it.
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Posted on 22:41:49 - 14/06/25 (23 days ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
Holy shit, you did good writing this up as I’m ridiculously invested in this now 🍿🍿🍿
Collecting/buying bones and spines!
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Posted on 22:43:57 - 14/06/25 (23 days ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
FYI... D3D9 seems to be workingD3D9 DID NOT WORK... just made it take a little longer to crash.
My expert recommendation for your exact situation:
Since D3D11 (default) is where the bug appeared, and OpenGL isn’t stable on Windows Chromium:
Test path:
1️⃣ Try forcing D3D9 first:
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This is your "most likely to fix it" candidate.
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D3D9 is often surprisingly stable when there’s a Chromium → NVIDIA → DirectX 11 pipeline bug.
2️⃣ If D3D9 works without black screening, great — you’ve found a working config.
3️⃣ If D3D9 fails or causes rendering issues, try D3D11on12 next:
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D3D11on12 is Chromium's more experimental rendering backend.
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On Windows 11 + Ada GPUs + WDDM 3.2, it can sometimes work better than D3D11 — or worse (depends on your driver).
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Your hardware fully supports this path.
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Posted on 23:01:31 - 14/06/25 (23 days ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
(WARNING TO OTHERS... YOU CAN SERIOUSLY MESS UP CHROME IN FLAGS!!!)
"Choose ANGLE graphics backend"
Trying D311on12 now.
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Posted on 23:32:03 - 14/06/25 (23 days ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
Best story/post in the Torn forums this month.
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Posted on 23:42:53 - 14/06/25 (23 days ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
No more time to mess with this right now... back to just disabling.
edit: Who TF am I kidding??
GPT's advice:
What can you do now? (The “hardening config” I promised)
1️⃣ Keep Hardware Acceleration disabled in Chrome for now.
This is fully safe; you lose very little real-world performance unless you're playing high-end video or running complex 3D web apps.2️⃣ Stay fully updated:
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Keep NVIDIA drivers updated — especially once WHQL 555.x / 560.x branch matures.
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Monitor Chromium versions — many of these bugs are being actively worked on for M126 / M127.
3️⃣ Optional advanced workaround (works for some Ada owners):
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Disable HAGS in Windows (sometimes helps even with HW Accel on):
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Settings → System → Display → Graphics → Default graphics settings → Hardware-Accelerated GPU Scheduling → Off
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Disable MPO (Multiplane Overlay) via registry tweak:
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Can eliminate compositor crashes for some users.
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Safe to try; fully reversible.
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If you want — I can write you a safe script to toggle MPO on/off for testing. Many high-end laptop owners on Ada are doing this.
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screw it... script kiddie to the rescue!
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Posted on 00:34:41 - 15/06/25 (23 days ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post link
MPO... SEEMS... to be working.
edit:
00:51:13 - 15/06/25 You used 3 nerve successfully responding to a Job Scam target gaining $135,000
Gonna leave it for a few hours and see...
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