Juggernaut [39773]

tax right off or not, there's nothing stopping you from choosing to donate directly, it's not as if you'll be rewarded with SE's.

Personally, I think it's a good idea with 1 simple downside. Charity should be given as... well, charity. Rewards shouldn't be expected and when I think about the people in the future glory-bragging on the forums all I can picture are the soccer moms or influencer wannabe's filming themselves giving the homeless 10 cents and expecting to be treated like they shit gold.

I'd also like it if the torn community could vote for new charities every so often

bogie [148747]

Hitman titles for charitable donors.

Juggernaut [39773]

tax right off or not, there's nothing stopping you from choosing to donate directly, it's not as if you'll be rewarded with SE's.

Personally, I think it's a good idea with 1 simple downside. Charity should be given as... well, charity. Rewards shouldn't be expected and when I think about the people in the future glory-bragging on the forums all I can picture are the soccer moms or influencer wannabe's filming themselves giving the homeless 10 cents and expecting to be treated like they shit gold.

I'd also like it if the torn community could vote for new charities every so often

JoeSkull [533524]

While yes, I agree that charity should come from the heart, not all people are likely to donate. By providing a small incentive, it raises charitable contributions. Also, some may be on the fence on donating. Incentives help tip the scales.

I see this to be more closely related to a long term charity drive rather than some evil tax evasion scheme. Whatever the reason, there is good to come from it.

I don't have a lot of expendable cash but I have a large family. I do gather old clothes from my family to donate. I may or may not claim it on my taxes, typically not though. I do it because I want to avoid waste while helping people. If I had money to donate, I'd be all for Torn's charity (depending on the charity organizations and causes). I get to support a good cause AND get a small benefit in return? Why not?

FilthyCasual [2527073]

R-, misleading title and general shitpost.

Only referenced sugarvalves name (as saltyvalves) in the title so that anyone would be interested in reading how little you know about what you're saying in spite of your access to Google.

Tarelli [1060371]

When I give to charity I don't do it to get money back...

finally [2060206]

But why not, if you can? Not like charity gets less, in fact you could donate more if you calculate the deductions of taxes in :) Win win to me :)

Tarelli [1060371]

When I give to charity I don't do it to get money back...

finally [2060206]

But why not, if you can? Not like charity gets less, in fact you could donate more if you calculate the deductions of taxes in :) Win win to me :)

Tarelli [1060371]

I don't know if I can.

Its not something I'd bother looking in to.

I just give to causes when I see fit.

finally [2060206]

Sugartits representing TORN as a f**king retard asshole, sugartits parents must be proud they never made it out of committee to staff.

finally [2060206]

Sugartits representing TORN as a f**king retard asshole, sugartits parents must be proud they never made it out of committee to staff.

MightyGoober [812478]

Being shutdown for asking legitimate questions isn't right.

The moment I started reading over it, i figured Torn benefits.

In some way or form, Ched wouldn't do this unless it benefited his business. Whether it's a tax incentive, or something else.... there is something.

If there is literally no business case for Ched, why add it?

finally [2060206]

Sugartits representing TORN as a f**king retard asshole, sugartits parents must be proud they never made it out of committee to staff.

MightyGoober [812478]

Being shutdown for asking legitimate questions isn't right.

The moment I started reading over it, i figured Torn benefits.

In some way or form, Ched wouldn't do this unless it benefited his business. Whether it's a tax incentive, or something else.... there is something.

If there is literally no business case for Ched, why add it?

finally [2060206]

Sugartits representing TORN as a f**king retard asshole, sugartits parents must be proud they never made it out of committee to staff.

MightyGoober [812478]

Being shutdown for asking legitimate questions isn't right.

The moment I started reading over it, i figured Torn benefits.

In some way or form, Ched wouldn't do this unless it benefited his business. Whether it's a tax incentive, or something else.... there is something.

If there is literally no business case for Ched, why add it?

bogie [148747]

Honestly that's just depressing that people genuinely cannot comprehend a genuine want to provide a means of help for people without a business incentive.


There is nothing in it for Torn other than the knowledge that we can, as a community, better the world around us.

Solor [2476035]

That's a bit stupid in my opinion (no hate, more power to you if you like it). So you can donate to charity via torn and it doesn't get you anything in terms of game benefit. Wouldn't it be better to encourage players to buy donator packs so that we can hire more staff and get crimes 2.0 earlier / better servers faster?

Just my 2 cents.

bogie [148747]

9 women can't make a baby in 1 month.

finally [2060206]

Sugartits representing TORN as a f**king retard asshole, sugartits parents must be proud they never made it out of committee to staff.

MightyGoober [812478]

Being shutdown for asking legitimate questions isn't right.

The moment I started reading over it, i figured Torn benefits.

In some way or form, Ched wouldn't do this unless it benefited his business. Whether it's a tax incentive, or something else.... there is something.

If there is literally no business case for Ched, why add it?

bogie [148747]

Honestly that's just depressing that people genuinely cannot comprehend a genuine want to provide a means of help for people without a business incentive.


There is nothing in it for Torn other than the knowledge that we can, as a community, better the world around us.

finally [2060206]

Imagine if there was third parties you could work with, so you could provide game benefits, and people could claim their tax benefits? sounds crazy, I know, but there are organizations like betterplace.org, and afaik they even have APIs.

But who am I to say this, I never donate, right :)

chupACABra [474281]

What I read is if you want more uniqueish p2w donate $$ for rl war... horrible imo, i rly want Torn to be pure just game totally disconnected from rl

finally [2060206]

Sugartits representing TORN as a f**king retard asshole, sugartits parents must be proud they never made it out of committee to staff.

MightyGoober [812478]

Being shutdown for asking legitimate questions isn't right.

The moment I started reading over it, i figured Torn benefits.

In some way or form, Ched wouldn't do this unless it benefited his business. Whether it's a tax incentive, or something else.... there is something.

If there is literally no business case for Ched, why add it?

bogie [148747]

Honestly that's just depressing that people genuinely cannot comprehend a genuine want to provide a means of help for people without a business incentive.


There is nothing in it for Torn other than the knowledge that we can, as a community, better the world around us.

finally [2060206]

Imagine if there was third parties you could work with, so you could provide game benefits, and people could claim their tax benefits? sounds crazy, I know, but there are organizations like betterplace.org, and afaik they even have APIs.

But who am I to say this, I never donate, right :)

bogie [148747]

This is an option we actually looked at in the past, the levels of red tape surrounding it made it impossible for us to achieve, and many charities actually didn't want to partner with "a crime game" out of fear of losing out on other donations through bad press.

Ched comments on that here if you want a better source, this isn't an idea we've recently pulled out of nowhere, a lot of consideration has gone in to this and we want to make the world better with our community, I'm truly baffled why you continue to double down to shit on giving money to charity and discourage the same of others.
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