Pops [1025410]

completely agree with sugarvalves, i hope he hops on the duke account and mugs you.

CHINGADERA [2270005]

Just fire up the script dumbass, you could mug him endlessly whenever he comes out the hosp. Cheating shitbag.

bogie [148747]

Intention or not it's exactly what you achieved through your misinformation...

If you don't want to use such a system then don't use it. If you want to donate money to Torn to get benefits then you're always better off doing regular donator packs. The purpose of the charity centre would never be a "pay to win" system, as it would be largely cosmetic with some minor perks, that would no doubt be not quite as good as buying donator packs, but unique enough where there's some people who would be interested.

This whole system is about Torn working alongside it's community to benefit the world as a whole, and provide an incentive for people to donate for charitable causes.

The whole argument of "but I could claim this myself!!!" is a bit ridiculous in my view as if that's the case then go ahead and do that directly to the charity then? That's great! Win win! You get what you want and the charity, which is what we want to benefit here, rather than Torn in any way, gets support!

But were you ever going to do that? Probably not... The whole point here is about giving some way where people would donate to charity and get something they might want in place of that, utilising the community as a whole to really make a larger difference for society.

We have a great community here in Torn, and want what we've done here to help make the world better.

Adrenalinas [1974447]

I like the idea.
Titles, different color names, and so on still have "some minor perks" mentioned there can be a kinda op like a book voucher (especially if you could get more than one) anyway savages made a mistake by telling this

Torn will provide a range of in-game rewards which increase in usefulness and prestige the more you donate

that kinda sounded like making torn p2w. I think if it would be described like Ched said

All rewards would be cosmetic, or provide a very slight / minor advantage which is very limited.

it would be much less resistance

finally [2060206]

Sugartits representing TORN as a f**king retard asshole, sugartits parents must be proud they never made it out of committee to staff.

finally [2060206]

Sugartits representing TORN as a f**king retard asshole, sugartits parents must be proud they never made it out of committee to staff.

TDup [2660552]

I actually think you raised an interesting point in the original post.
But you did it with a very accusatory tone. (And it seems you were wrong about the main message, that Ched would get money out of this)

Sugar reaction was also very agressive.

I think you should send a box full of plushies to each others, and move on.

bogie [148747]

Intention or not it's exactly what you achieved through your misinformation...

If you don't want to use such a system then don't use it. If you want to donate money to Torn to get benefits then you're always better off doing regular donator packs. The purpose of the charity centre would never be a "pay to win" system, as it would be largely cosmetic with some minor perks, that would no doubt be not quite as good as buying donator packs, but unique enough where there's some people who would be interested.

This whole system is about Torn working alongside it's community to benefit the world as a whole, and provide an incentive for people to donate for charitable causes.

The whole argument of "but I could claim this myself!!!" is a bit ridiculous in my view as if that's the case then go ahead and do that directly to the charity then? That's great! Win win! You get what you want and the charity, which is what we want to benefit here, rather than Torn in any way, gets support!

But were you ever going to do that? Probably not... The whole point here is about giving some way where people would donate to charity and get something they might want in place of that, utilising the community as a whole to really make a larger difference for society.

We have a great community here in Torn, and want what we've done here to help make the world better.

Adrenalinas [1974447]

I like the idea.
Titles, different color names, and so on still have "some minor perks" mentioned there can be a kinda op like a book voucher (especially if you could get more than one) anyway savages made a mistake by telling this

Torn will provide a range of in-game rewards which increase in usefulness and prestige the more you donate

that kinda sounded like making torn p2w. I think if it would be described like Ched said

All rewards would be cosmetic, or provide a very slight / minor advantage which is very limited.

it would be much less resistance

sugarvalves [1963573]

You're right, that part was badly worded. I should've pointed out that the small number of rewards that are even slightly useful - if the community thinks we should introduce them at all - would only be for top-tier charitable donators who are throwing down absolutely obscene amounts.

The OP is clearly a mouth-breathing disappointment who enjoys playing the villain, but I completely understand and agree with anyone who responded to the thread negatively due to the perception that we were suggesting a charity-based P2W format. That's not the intention. We're not Activision, and as far as I know, we're not introducing a Neymar NPC anytime soon. I think we've got the license for Eric Djemba-Djemba though.

Anyway, I'll figure out a better way to word everything when we post this again, as our main aim is to find out what the community actually wants in return for donating - and of course, what you don't want.

bogie [148747]

Intention or not it's exactly what you achieved through your misinformation...

If you don't want to use such a system then don't use it. If you want to donate money to Torn to get benefits then you're always better off doing regular donator packs. The purpose of the charity centre would never be a "pay to win" system, as it would be largely cosmetic with some minor perks, that would no doubt be not quite as good as buying donator packs, but unique enough where there's some people who would be interested.

This whole system is about Torn working alongside it's community to benefit the world as a whole, and provide an incentive for people to donate for charitable causes.

The whole argument of "but I could claim this myself!!!" is a bit ridiculous in my view as if that's the case then go ahead and do that directly to the charity then? That's great! Win win! You get what you want and the charity, which is what we want to benefit here, rather than Torn in any way, gets support!

But were you ever going to do that? Probably not... The whole point here is about giving some way where people would donate to charity and get something they might want in place of that, utilising the community as a whole to really make a larger difference for society.

We have a great community here in Torn, and want what we've done here to help make the world better.

Adrenalinas [1974447]

I like the idea.
Titles, different color names, and so on still have "some minor perks" mentioned there can be a kinda op like a book voucher (especially if you could get more than one) anyway savages made a mistake by telling this

Torn will provide a range of in-game rewards which increase in usefulness and prestige the more you donate

that kinda sounded like making torn p2w. I think if it would be described like Ched said

All rewards would be cosmetic, or provide a very slight / minor advantage which is very limited.

it would be much less resistance

bogie [148747]

Hitman titles for charitable donors.

bogie [148747]

Intention or not it's exactly what you achieved through your misinformation...

If you don't want to use such a system then don't use it. If you want to donate money to Torn to get benefits then you're always better off doing regular donator packs. The purpose of the charity centre would never be a "pay to win" system, as it would be largely cosmetic with some minor perks, that would no doubt be not quite as good as buying donator packs, but unique enough where there's some people who would be interested.

This whole system is about Torn working alongside it's community to benefit the world as a whole, and provide an incentive for people to donate for charitable causes.

The whole argument of "but I could claim this myself!!!" is a bit ridiculous in my view as if that's the case then go ahead and do that directly to the charity then? That's great! Win win! You get what you want and the charity, which is what we want to benefit here, rather than Torn in any way, gets support!

But were you ever going to do that? Probably not... The whole point here is about giving some way where people would donate to charity and get something they might want in place of that, utilising the community as a whole to really make a larger difference for society.

We have a great community here in Torn, and want what we've done here to help make the world better.

Adrenalinas [1974447]

I like the idea.
Titles, different color names, and so on still have "some minor perks" mentioned there can be a kinda op like a book voucher (especially if you could get more than one) anyway savages made a mistake by telling this

Torn will provide a range of in-game rewards which increase in usefulness and prestige the more you donate

that kinda sounded like making torn p2w. I think if it would be described like Ched said

All rewards would be cosmetic, or provide a very slight / minor advantage which is very limited.

it would be much less resistance

sugarvalves [1963573]

You're right, that part was badly worded. I should've pointed out that the small number of rewards that are even slightly useful - if the community thinks we should introduce them at all - would only be for top-tier charitable donators who are throwing down absolutely obscene amounts.

The OP is clearly a mouth-breathing disappointment who enjoys playing the villain, but I completely understand and agree with anyone who responded to the thread negatively due to the perception that we were suggesting a charity-based P2W format. That's not the intention. We're not Activision, and as far as I know, we're not introducing a Neymar NPC anytime soon. I think we've got the license for Eric Djemba-Djemba though.

Anyway, I'll figure out a better way to word everything when we post this again, as our main aim is to find out what the community actually wants in return for donating - and of course, what you don't want.

CHINGADERA [2270005]

Always love when a staff member insults the playerbase. Reminds me when bogie called everyone incels.

Spliffy [315389]

That’s actually a really good idea for one of the charity centre rewards.

Donate $25 and bogie has to flame one player of your choosing to a moderate extent.

CHINGADERA [2270005]

Always love when a staff member insults the playerbase. Reminds me when bogie called everyone incels.

Spliffy [315389]

That’s actually a really good idea for one of the charity centre rewards.

Donate $25 and bogie has to flame one player of your choosing to a moderate extent.

CHINGADERA [2270005]

Always love when a staff member insults the playerbase. Reminds me when bogie called everyone incels.

Spliffy [315389]

That’s actually a really good idea for one of the charity centre rewards.

Donate $25 and bogie has to flame one player of your choosing to a moderate extent.

Unlucky [2472585]

You don’t understand how tax deductibles works and it shows.

CHINGADERA [2270005]

Always love when a staff member insults the playerbase. Reminds me when bogie called everyone incels.

Spliffy [315389]

That’s actually a really good idea for one of the charity centre rewards.

Donate $25 and bogie has to flame one player of your choosing to a moderate extent.

bogie [148747]

You over-estimate how much incentive I'd require for that.

Tarelli [1060371]

When I give to charity I don't do it to get money back...