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    Thread created on 18:39:21 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    Sugartits representing TORN as a f**king retard asshole, sugartits parents must be proud they never made it out of committee to staff.
    Last edited by finally on 23:32:18 - 23/11/22

    sugarvalves is a piece of shit

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    Posted on 18:40:29 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    Finally another shitty thread which couldve been an apology post in the derailed thread. About damn time xD
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    Posted on 18:41:22 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    Dunno, skimmed your posts, you seem like quite the asshole there
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    Posted on 18:44:31 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    Posted on 18:45:31 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    But for the majority of players in the U.S. at least, that's not true. You didn't reply on the other thread, but only people who itemize their deductions can claim donations. 


    To make it simple:


    If I donate on Torn, I can get a fun reward.
    If I donate directly, I get nothing tax-wise.


    Again, this applies to most people (in the US), as over 85% use standardized deductions.






    I can appreciate that you're trying to help people but your information is not correct -> ("still dislike the idea since people can get tax relief if they donate directly")
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    Posted on 18:46:07 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    Is this really necessary?

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    Posted on 18:47:03 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    Raelyn [2636726]

    But for the majority of players in the U.S. at least, that's not true. You didn't reply on the other thread, but only people who itemize their deductions can claim donations.


    To make it simple:


    If I donate on Torn, I can get a fun reward.
    If I donate directly, I get nothing tax-wise.


    Again, this applies to most people (in the US), as over 85% use standardized deductions.






    I can appreciate that you're trying to help people but your information is not correct -> ("still dislike the idea since people can get tax relief if they donate directly")
    not correct to you != not correct for everyone :)

    sugarvalves is a piece of shit

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    Posted on 18:52:10 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    Raelyn [2636726]

    But for the majority of players in the U.S. at least, that's not true. You didn't reply on the other thread, but only people who itemize their deductions can claim donations.


    To make it simple:


    If I donate on Torn, I can get a fun reward.
    If I donate directly, I get nothing tax-wise.


    Again, this applies to most people (in the US), as over 85% use standardized deductions.






    I can appreciate that you're trying to help people but your information is not correct -> ("still dislike the idea since people can get tax relief if they donate directly")

    finally [2060206]

    not correct to you != not correct for everyone :)
    Lmao that's exactly my point. 


    My information is true for the *majority*.


    You're telling people something that is correct for YOU but not for MOST.
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    Posted on 18:53:52 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    Raelyn [2636726]

    But for the majority of players in the U.S. at least, that's not true. You didn't reply on the other thread, but only people who itemize their deductions can claim donations.


    To make it simple:


    If I donate on Torn, I can get a fun reward.
    If I donate directly, I get nothing tax-wise.


    Again, this applies to most people (in the US), as over 85% use standardized deductions.






    I can appreciate that you're trying to help people but your information is not correct -> ("still dislike the idea since people can get tax relief if they donate directly")

    finally [2060206]

    not correct to you != not correct for everyone :)

    Raelyn [2636726]

    Lmao that's exactly my point.


    My information is true for the *majority*.


    You're telling people something that is correct for YOU but not for MOST.
    So you're saying US = majority? Stereotype check.

    sugarvalves is a piece of shit

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    Posted on 18:56:09 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    tax right off or not, there's nothing stopping you from choosing to donate directly, it's not as if you'll be rewarded with SE's.

    Personally, I think it's a good idea with 1 simple downside. Charity should be given as... well, charity. Rewards shouldn't be expected and when I think about the people in the future glory-bragging on the forums all I can picture are the soccer moms or influencer wannabe's filming themselves giving the homeless 10 cents and expecting to be treated like they shit gold.

    I'd also like it if the torn community could vote for new charities every so often
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    Posted on 18:56:13 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    Raelyn [2636726]

    But for the majority of players in the U.S. at least, that's not true. You didn't reply on the other thread, but only people who itemize their deductions can claim donations.


    To make it simple:


    If I donate on Torn, I can get a fun reward.
    If I donate directly, I get nothing tax-wise.


    Again, this applies to most people (in the US), as over 85% use standardized deductions.






    I can appreciate that you're trying to help people but your information is not correct -> ("still dislike the idea since people can get tax relief if they donate directly")

    finally [2060206]

    not correct to you != not correct for everyone :)

    Raelyn [2636726]

    Lmao that's exactly my point.


    My information is true for the *majority*.


    You're telling people something that is correct for YOU but not for MOST.

    finally [2060206]

    So you're saying US = majority? Stereotype check.
    I made sure to clarify that I am talking specifically about the majority of US taxpayers multiple times. Go off though. Hope you have a better day.
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    Posted on 18:57:02 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    Every irl bday Facebook does the same thing, go get mad to Facebook.

    I like the idea, specially the book one for people who actually need that book they can't get on subscriber anymore.

    I would love some extra modifications like crimes 2.0 (joke)

    But really, I would enjoy donating for charity just for fun :)
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    Posted on 19:01:01 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    Raelyn [2636726]

    But for the majority of players in the U.S. at least, that's not true. You didn't reply on the other thread, but only people who itemize their deductions can claim donations.


    To make it simple:


    If I donate on Torn, I can get a fun reward.
    If I donate directly, I get nothing tax-wise.


    Again, this applies to most people (in the US), as over 85% use standardized deductions.






    I can appreciate that you're trying to help people but your information is not correct -> ("still dislike the idea since people can get tax relief if they donate directly")

    finally [2060206]

    not correct to you != not correct for everyone :)

    Raelyn [2636726]

    Lmao that's exactly my point.


    My information is true for the *majority*.


    You're telling people something that is correct for YOU but not for MOST.

    finally [2060206]

    So you're saying US = majority? Stereotype check.

    Raelyn [2636726]

    I made sure to clarify that I am talking specifically about the majority of US taxpayers multiple times. Go off though. Hope you have a better day.
    Let me rephrase.

    not correct to majority of US != not correct for everyone.

    Hope you have a wonderful day. Cheers!

    sugarvalves is a piece of shit

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    Posted on 19:01:16 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    i like the gold honourbar idea personally, blue sucks

    i am not enough of a nerd for a red one (smh smh)

    i'll donate a grand to charity for a gold honourbar, i do not give a F**K, take my money ched ingrown toenail awareness charity
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    Posted on 19:01:23 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    Intention or not it's exactly what you achieved through your misinformation...

    If you don't want to use such a system then don't use it. If you want to donate money to Torn to get benefits then you're always better off doing regular donator packs. The purpose of the charity centre would never be a "pay to win" system, as it would be largely cosmetic with some minor perks, that would no doubt be not quite as good as buying donator packs, but unique enough where there's some people who would be interested.

    This whole system is about Torn working alongside it's community to benefit the world as a whole, and provide an incentive for people to donate for charitable causes.

    The whole argument of "but I could claim this myself!!!" is a bit ridiculous in my view as if that's the case then go ahead and do that directly to the charity then? That's great! Win win! You get what you want and the charity, which is what we want to benefit here, rather than Torn in any way, gets support!

    But were you ever going to do that? Probably not... The whole point here is about giving some way where people would donate to charity and get something they might want in place of that, utilising the community as a whole to really make a larger difference for society.

    We have a great community here in Torn, and want what we've done here to help make the world better.

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    Posted on 19:01:41 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    completely agree with sugarvalves, i hope he hops on the duke account and mugs you.

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    Posted on 19:02:06 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    just donate directly, as much as torn staff state torn ltd doesn't receive tax relief... i would research this yourself.... try the gov.uk website which specifically states torn would pay less cooperation tax due to charitable donations of money
    Last edited by Whisper on 19:04:37 - 22/11/22
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    Posted on 19:03:39 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    R+ for your edit
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    Posted on 19:03:40 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    Posted on 19:06:24 - 22/11/22 (1 year ago)
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    bogie [148747]

    Intention or not it's exactly what you achieved through your misinformation...

    If you don't want to use such a system then don't use it. If you want to donate money to Torn to get benefits then you're always better off doing regular donator packs. The purpose of the charity centre would never be a "pay to win" system, as it would be largely cosmetic with some minor perks, that would no doubt be not quite as good as buying donator packs, but unique enough where there's some people who would be interested.

    This whole system is about Torn working alongside it's community to benefit the world as a whole, and provide an incentive for people to donate for charitable causes.

    The whole argument of "but I could claim this myself!!!" is a bit ridiculous in my view as if that's the case then go ahead and do that directly to the charity then? That's great! Win win! You get what you want and the charity, which is what we want to benefit here, rather than Torn in any way, gets support!

    But were you ever going to do that? Probably not... The whole point here is about giving some way where people would donate to charity and get something they might want in place of that, utilising the community as a whole to really make a larger difference for society.

    We have a great community here in Torn, and want what we've done here to help make the world better.
    Is it misinformation though if some people do get money back if they would donate directly? Sure I got the part wrong that TORN might get something out of it, but I edited it, so what.

    I donated a lot in my life to charity, so don't come at me with your stupid ass "But were you ever going to do that? Probably not...".

    All I am saying here is that the reaction of sugarvalves could have been better, especially as someone that kinda represents TORN, like you do.

    sugarvalves is a piece of shit

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