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    • MG- [812478]
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    Posted on 17:07:41 - 25/04/21 (1 year ago)
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    MG- [812478]

    You basically invested in a RL oil index.

    How do you think that's gonna do, both short and long term?

    Looks like you invested at the RL top.




    boo [1544641]

    Unless you have a reason to believe otherwise, I’d put the odds on Ched using live data is probably about 0%. It would mean he has had absolutely no control over how stock prices will trend over the long run.


    This avoids potential headaches for him around companies going bust/being acquired and no longer existing, indexes being discontinued, ETFs being closed etc.


    Far more likely is that Ched has taken a period in history which is then a “controlled” source, which he can be certain that long term annual growth rates will be 10%, and that companies won’t either 0 out or go sky high.

    Plus, the chart you posted looks nothing like CNC except for the fact that there is a downtrend since where your cursor is pointing! Show me a regression slope and a statistically significant t value and I’ll happily stand corrected :P
    I would imagine the torn stock includes more than just oil. If I was ched, I would make sure it would never be an easy 1:1 to RL.

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    Posted on 17:23:04 - 25/04/21 (1 year ago)
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    MG- [812478]

    You basically invested in a RL oil index.

    How do you think that's gonna do, both short and long term?

    Looks like you invested at the RL top.




    boo [1544641]

    Unless you have a reason to believe otherwise, I’d put the odds on Ched using live data is probably about 0%. It would mean he has had absolutely no control over how stock prices will trend over the long run.


    This avoids potential headaches for him around companies going bust/being acquired and no longer existing, indexes being discontinued, ETFs being closed etc.


    Far more likely is that Ched has taken a period in history which is then a “controlled” source, which he can be certain that long term annual growth rates will be 10%, and that companies won’t either 0 out or go sky high.

    Plus, the chart you posted looks nothing like CNC except for the fact that there is a downtrend since where your cursor is pointing! Show me a regression slope and a statistically significant t value and I’ll happily stand corrected :P

    MG- [812478]

    I would imagine the torn stock includes more than just oil. If I was ched, I would make sure it would never be an easy 1:1 to RL.
    Sure but you’d pick that up in a regression in your r^2 and slope coefficient even if Ched mixes it to include more than oil & a random component

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    Posted on 17:30:32 - 25/04/21 (1 year ago)
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    Let me know when you bail out and stock starts rising so i can invest my Flying income there :p
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    Posted on 17:54:50 - 25/04/21 (1 year ago)
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    It's easier to see how real this is if you look at the tornstats page


    https://gyazo.com/b47de85fd16d5429b4c1ab7891da2ddfhttps://gyazo.com/d1ccebd6bfdd30b56b636f46158da509




    etc etc etc
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    Posted on 18:45:02 - 25/04/21 (1 year ago)
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    takashi [2491991]

    It's easier to see how real this is if you look at the tornstats page


    https://gyazo.com/b47de85fd16d5429b4c1ab7891da2ddfhttps://gyazo.com/d1ccebd6bfdd30b56b636f46158da509




    etc etc etc
    This to me just looks like more people investing as the price gets lower, some holding through the dip and people selling off shares as it rises again

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    Posted on 19:38:22 - 25/04/21 (1 year ago)
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    I almost prefer the old system.  At least in that system you had a finite number of shares and even if a conglomerate of big-money players was manipulating the share prices, at the very least you had some data to support it, or explain it.  There was some sort of understanding for why prices would go up or down.  Not today.

    Today's "stocks" makes things even more bewildering and unexplainable. Although I enjoy the dividend system, I abhor the lack of insight and the inability to make solid buy/sell decisions. Maybe, over time we can use things like 90-day and 180-day moving averages, but an infinite supply and a lack of influence of demand on share price really screws things up.

    At least be sincere with us, Ched, and put the Stock Market button in with the other casino games under the casino section. At this point, maybe putting money in Caymans is relevant again.
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    Posted on 20:41:30 - 25/04/21 (1 year ago)
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    Euphoria [1443076]

    Working as intended
    I support this theory.
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    Posted on 22:40:53 - 25/04/21 (1 year ago)
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    I think the price should be linked to only in-game stats. E.g. FHG on how many FHCs used in past minute+hour+day+week+month+year, more used, higher price, less, smaller price.
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    Posted on 22:41:04 - 25/04/21 (1 year ago)
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    MG- [812478]

    You basically invested in a RL oil index.

    How do you think that's gonna do, both short and long term?

    Looks like you invested at the RL top.




    boo [1544641]

    Unless you have a reason to believe otherwise, I’d put the odds on Ched using live data is probably about 0%. It would mean he has had absolutely no control over how stock prices will trend over the long run.


    This avoids potential headaches for him around companies going bust/being acquired and no longer existing, indexes being discontinued, ETFs being closed etc.


    Far more likely is that Ched has taken a period in history which is then a “controlled” source, which he can be certain that long term annual growth rates will be 10%, and that companies won’t either 0 out or go sky high.

    Plus, the chart you posted looks nothing like CNC except for the fact that there is a downtrend since where your cursor is pointing! Show me a regression slope and a statistically significant t value and I’ll happily stand corrected :P
    Going to be an interesting day when the real life market inevitably crashes. 

    He can throw is hands and up say look a the market, "I didn't do any manipulation".

    I really wonder when these prices are based on, perhaps years or decades ago even, then if real like conveniently crashes its all of a sudden "real time" based.
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    Posted on 01:43:05 - 26/04/21 (1 year ago)
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    BobbyBG [2501930]

    I think the price should be linked to only in-game stats. E.g. FHG on how many FHCs used in past minute+hour+day+week+month+year, more used, higher price, less, smaller price.
    Would defeat the purpose. It could then be manipulated by players for their gain. Thus creating the same issue as last market

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    Posted on 10:28:01 - 26/04/21 (1 year ago)
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    boo [1544641]

    Unless you have a reason to believe otherwise, I’d put the odds on Ched using live data is probably about 0%. It would mean he has had absolutely no control over how stock prices will trend over the long run.


    This avoids potential headaches for him around companies going bust/being acquired and no longer existing, indexes being discontinued, ETFs being closed etc.


    Far more likely is that Ched has taken a period in history which is then a “controlled” source, which he can be certain that long term annual growth rates will be 10%, and that companies won’t either 0 out or go sky high.

    Plus, the chart you posted looks nothing like CNC except for the fact that there is a downtrend since where your cursor is pointing! Show me a regression slope and a statistically significant t value and I’ll happily stand corrected :P
    The problem with old data is that the data sets can perhaps be found, which could make it open to abuse. 

    Another possibility would be a "rubberbanding" algorithm, where real stocks decide the shorter term trends, while the offset from a 1.1^x curve is used to keep the stock in line over longer time.
    Last edited by HastaLaVistaBby on 10:30:39 - 26/04/21
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    Posted on 15:31:40 - 27/04/21 (1 year ago)
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    There is definitely something fixed with the stocks, everytime I've bought a stock so far at its lowest point it's always dropped leaving e around 4b negative. then it recovers quick and I end up managing to sell for 1.5b gain. the stocks then continues to go higher.
    I've seen this everytime so far so certainly the stocks aren't random. Whether this is intended or not I don't know?
    I'm quite happy with the new system so far but as I said. It's not random.

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