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    Thread created on 18:47:42 - 28/11/20 (5 years ago)
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    Abbreviations:
    Xan = Xanax
    rehab = Rehabilitation at Switzerland
    AP = Addiction Points
    BSR = Battle stat Reduction (side effect from drugs)
    JP = Job Point (gained while in Job)



    AP values

    1 Xan = 35 AP (without toleration, a faction perk)

    With Toleration perk @ 50% addiction Reduction: 1 Xan = 18 AP

    1 LSD = 21 AP (initial assessment)

    1 rehab = 90 AP reduction (at first rehab) ---> declines up to 1 AP reduction (with number of rehabs done, not with number of drugs taken)

    So refrain strictly from clicking multiple times on rehab when in Swiss.

    Natural addiction decay = 21 AP/day (occurs round time - ? 04:00 TCT)


    So, when we have max 'toleration', we can take 8 xan per week without ever needing rehab.
    Company specials for drug addiction reduction (Flower shop/Cruise line/Night club) =>
    1 JP = 1 AP
    (Can save up to 250k/JP @ max rehab)






    Cost of Rehab Calculation

    it starts at
    1 Xan = 100k

    35 AP = 100k => 1 AP = 2857

    Cost goes up in linear proportions with nu    mber of rehabs done (you can find the 'number of rehabs done' in personal statistics tab on your profile page)


    Equation:     [2857 + (12.85 x no of rehabs done)] per Addiction point



    Ex:
    A person with 12 rehabs done --> next rehab costs at 3011/AP
    Which clears 250000/3011 = ~83 AP (~2.5 Xan)

    At 2000th rehab => 1 rehab cures only ~ 8 AP => 1 xan needs almost 4 rehabs.

    The max tolerance for rehab (no further increase in the cost) is 1 AP = 1 rehab (250,000$) => 1 Xan rehab = 8.7 mil

    Education kick

    You will be kicked out from any ongoing education course when you have...

    Addiction mitigation will increase the threshold to reach any one of the below (all are virtually same)

    -6% to -7% BSR or ~250 AP (with no addiction mitigation) or ~350 AP (with -30% Addiction mitigation faction perk) or at -31 to -32 (Company efficiency reduction without any perk) or at -21 to -22 (company efficiency reduction with addiction mitigation faction perk)

    P.S: Job at Night Club can have a Passive at 10* which allows you to rake up addiction without getting kicked out of education (but you will be kicked out of the company soon. So it is mainly useful for the Director of the Night club, as director's addiction has no role in company efficiency.)



    Addiction & Company

    If you have a job at player company, you need to worry about your addiction status as it reduces your work efficiency which can make your director unhappy.


    So when to go for a rehab while working?

    You have to go to a rehab too frequently if your efficiency is just around 100%, because there would be no buffer to take your addiction points.

    The math...

    8 AP = -1 Point of Efficiency (with no addiction mitigation)

    16.3 AP = - 1 Point of Efficiency
    (with -30% faction addiction mitigation perk)

    (This is how you can tell your AP exactly @ 1800 TCT)


    Ex:
    If you have an addiction brain icon showing (-4% BSR) = 200 AP = -25 Efficiency reduction in company.

    Addiction Gain on Xanax Over Dose: (need further conformation)
    It is said to be [1-3x] => up to ~100 AP per OD


    Best suggestions:

    Always utilize natural decay. (No full addiction rehab at swiss). Leave 21 Addiction points worth of rehab.

    Ex: At full toleration for rehab, where 1 rehab = 1 AP => you need to leave 21 ticks/rehabs for utilizing natural decay. (Courtesy Kafia)

    Always try to get your rehab done just before 1800 TCT, which can improve your job efficiency significantly.
    EDIT 1: BSR values according to Faction perk status. Upon request by shaz1

    EDIT 2: Patch list #174 : 29/12/2020 | Announcements | TORN
    The new changes made with faction perk and merit upgrade are being calculated. The present guide above still applies to people who doesn't have faction perk or merit upgrades. And the AP gain related to BSR value table is also same for the faction perks. The changed thing is with AP to company efficiency, which is still 8AP for -1 efficiency loss for people with NO faction perk or merit upgrades.

    New values will be posted soon. Thank you.

    EDIT 3: Posted values related to Faction Perk (Addiction mitigation at -30%). People should calculate accordingly when looking for values, when the Perk is less than 30%.

    EDIT 4: 12/2/21: LSD Addiction Points. courtesy shadowshade

    In need of volunteers to check the Merit Upgrade of Addiction Mitigation in work. Please contact me.

    The Base values are gathered from various guides. One of it.
    Thank You.




    From Bilbosaggings

    Drug Cooldown List

    VICODIN - 4-6 HOURS

    CANNABIS - 60-90 MINUTES

    LSD - 6-8 HOURS

    SHROOMS - 3-4 HOURS

    KETAMIN - 45-60 MINUTES

    OPIUM - 3-4 HOURS

    PCP - 4-7 HOURS

    SPEED - 4-6 HOURS

    XANAX - 6-8 HOURS

    Ecstasy - 3-4 HOURS
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    Posted on 03:10:44 - 29/11/20 (5 years ago)
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    Thanks for the compile
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    Posted on 10:08:13 - 29/11/20 (5 years ago)
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    Thank you!

    I couldn't work out why did the BSR jump so quickly from - 1% to - 2% but it makes more sense now.

    Now we can also use your formula to work out the transition from Xanax to FHCs...
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    Posted on 16:44:16 - 29/11/20 (5 years ago)
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    Useful information, thanks for contributing
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    Posted on 20:16:35 - 30/11/20 (5 years ago)
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    TSYM

    This is awesome... how’d you figure em out O_o
    Btw do you know about how many extra AP increase if drugs are taken immediately (back-to-back), and how long does it still count as taking drugs immediately?



    edit: since you said its a compilation of useful infos from other players... thanks for compiling then :)
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    Posted on 04:52:32 - 01/12/20 (5 years ago)
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    AEZR4 [2606896]

    TSYM This is awesome... how’d you figure em out O_o Btw do you know about how many extra AP increase if drugs are taken immediately (back-to-back), and how long does it still count as taking drugs immediately? edit: since you said its a compilation of useful infos from other players... thanks for compiling then :)
    I don't think drugs can be taken immediately. There is a drug cooldown. If you were asking for taking drugs immediately after cooldown ends, many of us take xanax like this.

    It is still the same. This is only for xanax. But I think it is Same for any other drug.

    Thank you all of reading. Many people ask for this all the time. Spread it if possible.

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    Posted on 07:44:27 - 01/12/20 (5 years ago)
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    AEZR4 [2606896]

    TSYM This is awesome... how’d you figure em out O_o Btw do you know about how many extra AP increase if drugs are taken immediately (back-to-back), and how long does it still count as taking drugs immediately? edit: since you said its a compilation of useful infos from other players... thanks for compiling then :)
    In addition to DrVoids comment the drug CD ranges are below and it's purerandom chance which time u get between but I've commonly found xanaxs around 7hr:30m in CD

    VICODIN- 4-6 HOURS
    CANNABIS- 60-90 MINUTES
    LSD- 6-8 HOURS
    SHROOMS- 3-4 HOURS
    KETAMIN- 45-60 MINUTES
    OPIUM- 3-4 HOURS
    PCP- 4-7 HOURS
    SPEED- 4-6 HOURS
    XANAX- 6-8 HOURS
    Ecstasy- 3-4 HOURS

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    Posted on 06:24:22 - 02/12/20 (5 years ago)
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    Q:
    With faction bonuses. I keep noticing that my BSR changes from
    -1% to - 2%,-3% fairly quickly than back down to - 1% by the time the drug cooldown wears out ( or I wake up).
    To me it looks like we can perpetually stay at - 1 to - 3% BSR without the need to rehab.
    Does this make sense or have the drugs got to my brain?

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    Q: With faction bonuses. I keep noticing that my BSR changes from -1% to - 2%,-3% fairly quickly than back down to - 1% by the time the drug cooldown wears out ( or I wake up). To me it looks like we can perpetually stay at - 1 to - 3% BSR without the need to rehab. Does this make sense or have the drugs got to my brain?
    DM me with your faction perks and daily xan intake count. I think we will know if we just look into it a bit more. Ty :)

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    Q: With faction bonuses. I keep noticing that my BSR changes from -1% to - 2%,-3% fairly quickly than back down to - 1% by the time the drug cooldown wears out ( or I wake up). To me it looks like we can perpetually stay at - 1 to - 3% BSR without the need to rehab. Does this make sense or have the drugs got to my brain?
    If u say wake up I'm assuming its sleep torm night wake up work day. Or around torns midnight. This means natural decay has done its thing. So with the perks it increases the number of xanaxs per bracket for a BSR% so insted of 3 to get to 1% you could let's say take 4 or 5 xans due to the perks. So this means nat decay is prob greater than your xanax intake thus reducing over time by natural means so will make u flutter between the %s I hope this has helped but any questions just ping me :)

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    Someone please help me i dont understand, i have no brain icon , i have good faction boost against adiction and overdose. I never used drugs when i have drug cool down. I follow the steps of the iribuyas guide to happy jump and i get overdosed :( 2 times in a row this week. Please tell me if im doing somwthing wrong or what i dont have the brain icon people told me that i dont need to rehab if i dont have it and still i go and take 1 rehab and then got overdosed again :( i really gona appreciate your hekp
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    Someone please help me i dont understand, i have no brain icon , i have good faction boost against adiction and overdose. I never used drugs when i have drug cool down. I follow the steps of the iribuyas guide to happy jump and i get overdosed :( 2 times in a row this week. Please tell me if im doing somwthing wrong or what i dont have the brain icon people told me that i dont need to rehab if i dont have it and still i go and take 1 rehab and then got overdosed again :( i really gona appreciate your hekp
    OD has nothing to do with brain icon. It's a separate rate an it is random. There is no set rule for getting ODed. It's just RNG.

    People who say the values like 2-4% are just retrospective analysis of large population.

    If you don't have a brain icon, you may not need to rehab, unless your company job efficiency needed to. Because with your side effect reduction faction perk, brain icon appears late with more addiction points. So the company job efficiency reduction may kick in before that which may need you to go for a rehab.

    If you still have any doubts please DM me.

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    Bump for exposure :)

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    Posted on 18:40:11 - 09/12/20 (5 years ago)
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    There seems to be a smaller variations in education kick depending on addiction side effects between people. I am trying to gather info. So, If anyone can post their previous education kick details. Post here.

    Thank you.

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    Posted on 03:25:34 - 29/12/20 (5 years ago)
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    Expo B

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    [b][color=#1098ad]Abbreviations:[/color][/b] [i][quote][b]Xan[/b] = Xanax [b]rehab[/b] = Rehabilitation at Switzerland [b]AP[/b] = Addiction Points [b]BSR[/b] = Battle stat Reduction (side effect from drugs) [b]JP[/b] = Job Point (gained [i][color=black][size=12]while in Job)[/size][/color][/i] [/quote][/i][b] [/b] [b]AP values[/b] [center][left][i][color=black][color=#d6336c]1 Xan = [b]35[/b] AP[/color] (without toleration, a faction perk)[/color][/i] [i] [/i][i][color=black]With Toleration perk [color=#ae3ec9]@ 50% addiction Reduction: 1 Xan = 18 AP [/color][/color][/i] [color=#d6336c][i]1 LSD = 21 AP (initial assessment) [/i][/color] [i][color=black]1 rehab =[b] 90 [/b]AP reduction (at first rehab) ---> declines up to 1 AP reduction (with number of rehabs done, [b]not with number of drugs taken[/b]) [/color][/i] [i][color=black]So refrain strictly from clicking multiple times on rehab when in Swiss. [/color][/i] [i][color=black][b][color=#d6336c]Natural addiction decay = 21 AP/day (occurs round time - ? 04:00 TCT)[/color][/b][/color][/i] [b] [/b][i][color=black]So, when we have max 'toleration', we can take [b]8 xan per week[/b] without ever needing rehab.[/color][/i] [i][color=black]Company specials for drug addiction reduction (Flower shop/Cruise line/Night club) =>[/color][/i] [i][color=black][b][color=#d6336c]1 JP = 1 AP[/color][/b][/color][/i] [i][color=black](Can save up to 250k/JP @ max rehab)[/color][/i] [/left] [/center] [left][center][b] [/b][/center] [b][center][b][color=#0ca678][img]https://i.imgur.com/E7deJiT.png[/img] [/color][/b][/center] [/b][/left] [b] [color=#1098ad]Cost of Rehab Calculation[/color][/b] [quote][i][b]it starts at[/b] 1 Xan = 100k[/i] [i] [b][color=#d6336c]35 AP = 100k => 1 AP = 2857[/color][/b][/i] [i] Cost goes up in linear proportions with nu[/i][i][color=black][size=12]mber of rehabs done (you can find the '[b]number of rehabs done'[/b] in personal statistics tab on your profile page)[/size][/color][/i] [/quote] [center][i][color=black][size=12][b][size=16] Equation: [/size][/b][/size][/color][/i][i][color=black][size=12][b][color=#f76707][size=16][2857 + (12.85 x no of rehabs done)] per Addiction point[/size][/color][/b][/size][/color][/i][/center] [i] [b] Ex:[/b][/i] [quote][i]A person with [b]12 [/b]rehabs done --> next rehab costs at[b] 3011/AP [/b]Which clears 250000/3011 =[b] ~83[/b] AP (~2.5 Xan) At [b]2000[/b]th rehab => 1 rehab cures only ~ 8 AP => 1 xan needs almost 4 rehabs. [/i] The [b]max tolerance for rehab[/b] (no further increase in the cost) is [b]1 AP = 1 rehab (250,000$) => 1 Xan rehab = 8.7 mil[/b] [/quote][b] [color=#1098ad]Education kick[/color][/b] [i]You will be kicked out from any ongoing education course when you have... Addiction mitigation will increase the threshold to reach any one of the below (all are virtually same) [left][i][b][color=black][color=#d6336c]-6% to -7% BSR [/color][/color][/b][/i][/left] [b][left][i][b][color=black][color=#d6336c]or [/color][/color][/b][/i][/left] [left][i][b][color=#d6336c]~250 AP[/color] (with no addiction mitigation) [/b][/i][/left] [left][color=#d6336c][i][b][color=black][color=#d6336c]or [/color][/color][/b][/i][/color][/left] [left][i][b][color=#d6336c]~350 AP[/color] (with -30% Addiction mitigation faction perk) [/b][/i][/left] [left][color=#d6336c][i][b][color=black][color=#d6336c]or [/color][/color][/b][/i][/color][/left] [left][i][b][color=#d6336c]at -31 to -32 [/color](Company efficiency reduction without any perk) [/b][/i][/left] [left][color=#d6336c][i][b][color=black][color=#d6336c]or [/color][/color][/b][/i][/color][/left] [left][i][b][color=#d6336c]at -21 to -22[/color] (company efficiency reduction with addiction mitigation faction perk)[/b][/i][/left] [/b] [/i] [i][b]P.S:[/b] [quote]Job at Night Club can have a Passive at 10* which allows you to rake up addiction without getting kicked out of education (but you will be kicked out of the company soon. So it is mainly useful for the Director of the Night club, as director's addiction has no role in company efficiency.) [/quote][/i] [i] [/i][b] [color=#1098ad]Addiction & Company[/color][/b] [quote][i]If you have a job at player company, you need to worry about your addiction status as it reduces your work efficiency which can make your director unhappy.[/i] [/quote][i] [b][color=#1098ad]So when to go for a rehab while working?[/color][/b][/i] [i] You have to go to a rehab too frequently if your efficiency is just around 100%, because there would be no buffer to take your addiction points. The math... [left][i][b][color=black][color=#d6336c][size=16]8 AP = -1 Point of Efficiency[/size][/color] [/color][/b][/i][/left] [b][left][i][b][color=black](with no addiction mitigation)[/color][/b][/i][/left] [/b] [left][b] [/b][/left] [b][color=#d6336c][size=16][left][b][size=16]16.3 AP = - 1 Point of Efficiency[/size][/b][/left] [/size][/color][/b][b][left][b][color=black](with -30% faction addiction mitigation perk)[/color][/b][/left] [/b] (This is how you can tell your AP exactly @ 1800 TCT) [/i] [i] [b]Ex:[/b][/i][quote][i] If you have an addiction brain icon showing[b] (-4% BSR) = 200 AP = -25 Efficiency reduction [/b]in company.[/i] [/quote] [b][i][color=#1098ad]Addiction Gain on Xanax Over Dose:[/color] [/i][/b][i](need further conformation)[/i] [quote][i]It is said to be [1-3x] => up to ~100 AP per OD[/i] [/quote][i] [/i][b] [color=#1098ad]Best suggestions: [/color][/b][quote][color=black]Always utilize natural decay. (No full addiction rehab at swiss). Leave 21 Addiction points worth of rehab.[/color][b][color=#1098ad] [/color][/b] [color=black][b]Ex:[/b] At full toleration for rehab, where 1 rehab = 1 AP => you need to leave 21 ticks/rehabs for utilizing natural decay. (Courtesy [/color][color=#ae3ec9][url=https://www.torn.com/profiles.php?XID=2480738]Kafia[/url][/color][color=black]) [/color][color=black]Always try to get your rehab done just before 1800 TCT, which can improve your job efficiency significantly.[/color] [/quote][color=black] [/color] [quote][b][b]EDIT 1: [/b]BSR values according to Faction perk status. Upon request by [url=https://www.torn.com/profiles.php?XID=270923]shaz1[/url] EDIT 2: [url=https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=1&t=16203384&b=0&a=0]Patch list #174 : 29/12/2020 | Announcements | TORN[/url] [/b]The new changes made with faction perk and merit upgrade are being calculated. The present guide above still applies to people who doesn't have faction perk or merit upgrades. And the AP gain related to BSR value table is also same for the faction perks. The changed thing is with AP to company efficiency, which is still 8AP for -1 efficiency loss for people with NO faction perk or merit upgrades. New values will be posted soon. Thank you. [b]EDIT 3:[/b] Posted values related to Faction Perk (Addiction mitigation at -30%). People should calculate accordingly when looking for values, when the Perk is less than 30%. [b]EDIT 4:[/b] 12/2/21: LSD Addiction Points. courtesy [url=https://www.torn.com/profiles.php?XID=2117831]shadowshade[/url] [b][size=16]In need of volunteers to check the Merit Upgrade of Addiction Mitigation in work. Please contact me.[/size][/b] [/quote] [center][i][color=#f76707][size=12][b] [/b][b]The Base values are gathered from various guides. [url=https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=61&t=16181560]One of it.[/url] Thank You. [/b][/size][/color][/i][/center] [i][center][i][size=12][b][color=#f76707] [/color][/b][/size][/i][/center] [/i] From [url=https://www.torn.com/profiles.php?XID=2323763]Bilbosaggings [/url] [center][size=12][b][u][color=#ae3ec9]Drug Cooldown List[/color][/u][/b] [color=black][b]VICODIN[/b] - [/color][color=#f03e3e]4-6[/color][color=black] HOURS [/color][/size][/center] [center][color=black][size=12][b]CANNABIS [/b]- [/size][/color][color=#f03e3e][size=12]60-90[/size][/color][color=black][size=12] MINUTES [/size][/color][/center] [center][color=black][size=12][b]LSD [/b]-[/size][/color][color=#f03e3e][size=12] 6-8[/size][/color][color=black][size=12] HOURS [/size][/color][/center] [center][color=black][size=12][b]SHROOMS[/b] - [/size][/color][color=#f03e3e][size=12]3-4 [/size][/color][color=black][size=12]HOURS [/size][/color][/center] [center][color=black][size=12][b]KETAMIN[/b] - [/size][/color][color=#f03e3e][size=12]45-60[/size][/color][color=black][size=12] MINUTES [/size][/color][/center] [center][color=black][size=12][b]OPIUM[/b] - [/size][/color][color=#f03e3e][size=12]3-4[/size][/color][color=black][size=12] HOURS [/size][/color][/center] [center][color=black][size=12][b]PCP[/b] - [/size][/color][color=#f03e3e][size=12]4-7[/size][/color][color=black][size=12] HOURS [/size][/color][/center] [center][color=black][size=12][b]SPEED[/b] - [/size][/color][color=#f03e3e][size=12]4-6[/size][/color][color=black][size=12] HOURS [/size][/color][/center] [center][color=black][size=12][b]XANAX[/b] - [/size][/color][color=#f03e3e][size=12]6-8 [/size][/color][color=black][size=12]HOURS [/size][/color][/center] [center][size=12][b][color=black]Ecstasy [/color][/b][color=black]-[/color][color=#f03e3e] 3-4[/color][color=black] HOURS[/color][/size][/center]
    For the rehab effectiveness decline, if I go to Swiss and do 3 bars of rehab at once, will my rehab AP reduced by -1 or -3?

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    [b][color=#1098ad]Abbreviations:[/color][/b] [i][quote][b]Xan[/b] = Xanax [b]rehab[/b] = Rehabilitation at Switzerland [b]AP[/b] = Addiction Points [b]BSR[/b] = Battle stat Reduction (side effect from drugs) [b]JP[/b] = Job Point (gained [i][color=black][size=12]while in Job)[/size][/color][/i] [/quote][/i][b] [/b] [b]AP values[/b] [center][left][i][color=black][color=#d6336c]1 Xan = [b]35[/b] AP[/color] (without toleration, a faction perk)[/color][/i] [i] [/i][i][color=black]With Toleration perk [color=#ae3ec9]@ 50% addiction Reduction: 1 Xan = 18 AP [/color][/color][/i] [color=#d6336c][i]1 LSD = 21 AP (initial assessment) [/i][/color] [i][color=black]1 rehab =[b] 90 [/b]AP reduction (at first rehab) ---> declines up to 1 AP reduction (with number of rehabs done, [b]not with number of drugs taken[/b]) [/color][/i] [i][color=black]So refrain strictly from clicking multiple times on rehab when in Swiss. [/color][/i] [i][color=black][b][color=#d6336c]Natural addiction decay = 21 AP/day (occurs round time - ? 04:00 TCT)[/color][/b][/color][/i] [b] [/b][i][color=black]So, when we have max 'toleration', we can take [b]8 xan per week[/b] without ever needing rehab.[/color][/i] [i][color=black]Company specials for drug addiction reduction (Flower shop/Cruise line/Night club) =>[/color][/i] [i][color=black][b][color=#d6336c]1 JP = 1 AP[/color][/b][/color][/i] [i][color=black](Can save up to 250k/JP @ max rehab)[/color][/i] [/left] [/center] [left][center][b] [/b][/center] [b][center][b][color=#0ca678][img]https://i.imgur.com/E7deJiT.png[/img] [/color][/b][/center] [/b][/left] [b] [color=#1098ad]Cost of Rehab Calculation[/color][/b] [quote][i][b]it starts at[/b] 1 Xan = 100k[/i] [i] [b][color=#d6336c]35 AP = 100k => 1 AP = 2857[/color][/b][/i] [i] Cost goes up in linear proportions with nu[/i][i][color=black][size=12]mber of rehabs done (you can find the '[b]number of rehabs done'[/b] in personal statistics tab on your profile page)[/size][/color][/i] [/quote] [center][i][color=black][size=12][b][size=16] Equation: [/size][/b][/size][/color][/i][i][color=black][size=12][b][color=#f76707][size=16][2857 + (12.85 x no of rehabs done)] per Addiction point[/size][/color][/b][/size][/color][/i][/center] [i] [b] Ex:[/b][/i] [quote][i]A person with [b]12 [/b]rehabs done --> next rehab costs at[b] 3011/AP [/b]Which clears 250000/3011 =[b] ~83[/b] AP (~2.5 Xan) At [b]2000[/b]th rehab => 1 rehab cures only ~ 8 AP => 1 xan needs almost 4 rehabs. [/i] The [b]max tolerance for rehab[/b] (no further increase in the cost) is [b]1 AP = 1 rehab (250,000$) => 1 Xan rehab = 8.7 mil[/b] [/quote][b] [color=#1098ad]Education kick[/color][/b] [i]You will be kicked out from any ongoing education course when you have... Addiction mitigation will increase the threshold to reach any one of the below (all are virtually same) [left][i][b][color=black][color=#d6336c]-6% to -7% BSR [/color][/color][/b][/i][/left] [b][left][i][b][color=black][color=#d6336c]or [/color][/color][/b][/i][/left] [left][i][b][color=#d6336c]~250 AP[/color] (with no addiction mitigation) [/b][/i][/left] [left][color=#d6336c][i][b][color=black][color=#d6336c]or [/color][/color][/b][/i][/color][/left] [left][i][b][color=#d6336c]~350 AP[/color] (with -30% Addiction mitigation faction perk) [/b][/i][/left] [left][color=#d6336c][i][b][color=black][color=#d6336c]or [/color][/color][/b][/i][/color][/left] [left][i][b][color=#d6336c]at -31 to -32 [/color](Company efficiency reduction without any perk) [/b][/i][/left] [left][color=#d6336c][i][b][color=black][color=#d6336c]or [/color][/color][/b][/i][/color][/left] [left][i][b][color=#d6336c]at -21 to -22[/color] (company efficiency reduction with addiction mitigation faction perk)[/b][/i][/left] [/b] [/i] [i][b]P.S:[/b] [quote]Job at Night Club can have a Passive at 10* which allows you to rake up addiction without getting kicked out of education (but you will be kicked out of the company soon. So it is mainly useful for the Director of the Night club, as director's addiction has no role in company efficiency.) [/quote][/i] [i] [/i][b] [color=#1098ad]Addiction & Company[/color][/b] [quote][i]If you have a job at player company, you need to worry about your addiction status as it reduces your work efficiency which can make your director unhappy.[/i] [/quote][i] [b][color=#1098ad]So when to go for a rehab while working?[/color][/b][/i] [i] You have to go to a rehab too frequently if your efficiency is just around 100%, because there would be no buffer to take your addiction points. The math... [left][i][b][color=black][color=#d6336c][size=16]8 AP = -1 Point of Efficiency[/size][/color] [/color][/b][/i][/left] [b][left][i][b][color=black](with no addiction mitigation)[/color][/b][/i][/left] [/b] [left][b] [/b][/left] [b][color=#d6336c][size=16][left][b][size=16]16.3 AP = - 1 Point of Efficiency[/size][/b][/left] [/size][/color][/b][b][left][b][color=black](with -30% faction addiction mitigation perk)[/color][/b][/left] [/b] (This is how you can tell your AP exactly @ 1800 TCT) [/i] [i] [b]Ex:[/b][/i][quote][i] If you have an addiction brain icon showing[b] (-4% BSR) = 200 AP = -25 Efficiency reduction [/b]in company.[/i] [/quote] [b][i][color=#1098ad]Addiction Gain on Xanax Over Dose:[/color] [/i][/b][i](need further conformation)[/i] [quote][i]It is said to be [1-3x] => up to ~100 AP per OD[/i] [/quote][i] [/i][b] [color=#1098ad]Best suggestions: [/color][/b][quote][color=black]Always utilize natural decay. (No full addiction rehab at swiss). Leave 21 Addiction points worth of rehab.[/color][b][color=#1098ad] [/color][/b] [color=black][b]Ex:[/b] At full toleration for rehab, where 1 rehab = 1 AP => you need to leave 21 ticks/rehabs for utilizing natural decay. (Courtesy [/color][color=#ae3ec9][url=https://www.torn.com/profiles.php?XID=2480738]Kafia[/url][/color][color=black]) [/color][color=black]Always try to get your rehab done just before 1800 TCT, which can improve your job efficiency significantly.[/color] [/quote][color=black] [/color] [quote][b][b]EDIT 1: [/b]BSR values according to Faction perk status. Upon request by [url=https://www.torn.com/profiles.php?XID=270923]shaz1[/url] EDIT 2: [url=https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=1&t=16203384&b=0&a=0]Patch list #174 : 29/12/2020 | Announcements | TORN[/url] [/b]The new changes made with faction perk and merit upgrade are being calculated. The present guide above still applies to people who doesn't have faction perk or merit upgrades. And the AP gain related to BSR value table is also same for the faction perks. The changed thing is with AP to company efficiency, which is still 8AP for -1 efficiency loss for people with NO faction perk or merit upgrades. New values will be posted soon. Thank you. [b]EDIT 3:[/b] Posted values related to Faction Perk (Addiction mitigation at -30%). People should calculate accordingly when looking for values, when the Perk is less than 30%. [b]EDIT 4:[/b] 12/2/21: LSD Addiction Points. courtesy [url=https://www.torn.com/profiles.php?XID=2117831]shadowshade[/url] [b][size=16]In need of volunteers to check the Merit Upgrade of Addiction Mitigation in work. Please contact me.[/size][/b] [/quote] [center][i][color=#f76707][size=12][b] [/b][b]The Base values are gathered from various guides. [url=https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=61&t=16181560]One of it.[/url] Thank You. 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    For the rehab effectiveness decline, if I go to Swiss and do 3 bars of rehab at once, will my rehab AP reduced by -1 or -3?
    It is dependent on how many previous rehabs you have done. and your faction's perk.

    with every rehab there will be a 12.85$ more cost per addiction point. roughly you will lose 0.00514 AP rehab in the next rehab you do. until 1 AP becomes 1 rehab, roughly at 20000th rehab.

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    Great compilation!

    Another thing you could add here, which people miss out on, is that while newbies should do "total rehab ticks - 1" rehabs, people with less rehab efficiency should leave even more rehab ticks.
    For example, a fresh newbie doing his 1st rehab should always leave 1 rehab tick.
    But someone at least rehab efficiency (1 rehab = 1AP), should leave 21 rehab ticks, not 1 rehab tick. (Or maybe leave just 3 rehab ticks if they'll be taking 1 xanax before the natural decay, or leave 0 rehab ticks if they'll be taking 2 Xanax. But this is dependent on their timezone and playing time)
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