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Basic and Advanced Flight

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    Thread created on 18:27:55 - 19/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    Last replied 20:26:18 - 30/07/26 (3 months ago)
    In this guide I will not cover the basic of "how to" fly becouse those are already well explained in many other guides on forum.
    I will try instead to give some suggestions on the organization of the flight, and explain how and why sometimes it is better to prefer a certain route rather than another. In the second section I will try to explain better how the whole market of plushies/flowers works, and how you, fly runners, can take it to your advantage.
    Basic flight
    Organization

    Some hints to better organize and manage your routes

    1) Always check https://doctorn.rocks/travel-hub/ to verify the availabily of goods at destination, or you will have to run back home empty or to have to wait that plushies/flowers/goods will pop up again with the risk to be mugged or, worst, hospitalized.

    2) Organize your travels with your irl. Set up an alarm for when you will have to land (better at least 1 min before to land) and be ready to buy and fly again.

    3) Understand what "Net profit/min" does it means in pratical application. It is true, for example, that China (as example) could have the best income/min, but it is better if you start to think in terms of income/travels/day.
    For example if you are able to make only 2 travels/day you could choose more "total daily income routes" for yours 2 travels, i.e. UAE or others rich destinations.

    4) Make a daily plan for your travels, with an eye to the availability of the goods at the destination and another eye to your irl busy time. Divide the destinations for time frames and choose conseguently.

    5) Never go to sleep irl while traveling to abroad. If you want to maximize your time/fly it is better to be sure to have the possibility to hit the link "fly back home" when you go to sleep. In this way you will awake in Torn, full of energy, and with the possibility to plan your routes for the day.
    Advanced flight
    Maximize income by flights

    Understand why the traders wants your plushies/flowers
    The traders exchange the plushies/flowers to the museum to get back points, or resell the plushies/flowers to whom can do it.
    The points can be sold or bought on points market.

    To do this, a trader need to exchange 1 "set" of plushies/flowers to the museum.
    1 set of plushies is made by 10 plushie bought abroad, and by sheeps, bears and kittens bought in Torn (13 plushies in total).
    1 set of flowers is made by 11 flowers, all bought abroad by you flyers.

    To build those sets, a trader need you flyers becouse he/she usually don't has the time to fly.

    Understand the prices
    The price of points, rules the price of sets, that rules the prices of plushies/flowers.
    The point market is, anyway, a lot stable with little variations that usually are <0.5%
    The sets market follow the same, with variations not really more far from 0.5%

    But the single plushie/flower can have big price changes, even around 10% but those spikes usually stands only for few days if not a single day.
    The market quickly re-absorbs these price changes to bring them into line with the average price of the sets that is the sum of all the 13 plushies or 11 flowers of the sets.

    Maximize your income from flights
    Keeping in mind everything I said above, there are strategies to maximize flight earnings.

    The basic stategy of a flyer is to fly, buy abroad, and resell on item market, trying to compete with other flyers on same market.
    This will make you pay a fee of 3% on each item (if you dont have your own bazaar) and usually the bazaars are selling your same plushies at lower price, making this method a lot unpredictables both: for gain and for time to sell.

    Another strategy is to contact directly a trader. They usually buy your goods cutting a % under the average market price that is set daily at 00:00 TCT.
    Create your own list of trusted traders contacting them or following their topic in trade forum, and choose, time to time, what is the best deal for you, both for money and for time/online during your day zone.

    Selling sets
    A flyer could also decide to sell a set. Why? Because it sell better in $ terms.
    As told above a set price on market is the sum of all the plushies/flowers that make up a set. Traders usually buy sets at a higher price than the sum of individual flowers/plushies.
    To make up a set you can choose two ways: or will you fly to all the destinations to buy the single goods, or you fly only for some destinations and buy the other flowers/plushies on market, until you have a set to resell to the trader.
    In order for this strategy to works you will have to buy on the market at a price that, once added, still gives the average selling price of the set, becouse the trader will buy your set to a better price than the average price on market.

    Selling by trends
    I already told that the sets have an average market prices that is constant in the time. But the plushies/flowers no.
    You can decide to buy directly on market all the plushies/flowers that have a lowering trend and sell the ones that are increasing in price.
    If you apply this strategy to the sets sold to the trader, then you can also build up sets that have a lower price than the average price of sets on market, becouse, again, the set price is the sum of all the plushies/flowers of it, and if you can catch all the lowering trend goods you will ends with sets that have been build with a lower average price.

    Tools
    To help you to take good decisions and to help in apply the strategy that is better for yourself, I created a topic in Trade forum:
    Fly runners Information Service - Free

    It is updated daily (in first post) and it lists the average daily market prices of all plushies/flowers, the trends of the last 1 week, the timetable for routes, the income/min, an insight of sets prices in time, and a list of trusted (by me) traders that works with plushies/flowers and with sets too.

    I have added another tool yesterday:

    https://tinyurl.com/real-time-market

    This give in real time (updated every 30 minutes) the complete view about the market of plushies/flowers and how it is developing during day.

     

     

    Have good flights

     
    Last edited by Sweetiest on 23:13:50 - 22/01/19 (7 years ago)

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    Posted on 21:21:25 - 19/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    I think a lot of people who recently hit level 15 will benefit from this.

     

    Baldr is Buying

     

    Weavers script to include bazaars when viewing item market.

    https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=67&t=16451791&b=0&a=0

     

    Bzimor's website, Lets you find (or advertise) items for sale in bazaars.

    https://torn.bzimor.dev/

     

     

     

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    Posted on 21:59:40 - 19/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    Another awesome thread by sweetiest

    good job !!!

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    Posted on 23:14:17 - 22/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    Added a new tool:

    https://tinyurl.com/real-time-market

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    Posted on 00:06:48 - 28/01/19 (7 years ago)
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    Posted on 16:07:54 - 12/02/19 (7 years ago)
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    Posted on 17:28:13 - 12/02/19 (7 years ago)
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    Sweetiest [2187330]

    [b]Added a new tool:[/b] [b][url=https://tinyurl.com/real-time-market]https://tinyurl.com/real-time-market[/url][/b]
    looks good but not working atm. 

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    Posted on 07:11:59 - 18/02/19 (7 years ago)
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    Posted on 16:04:25 - 19/02/19 (7 years ago)
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    Sweetiest [2187330]

    [b]Added a new tool:[/b] [b][url=https://tinyurl.com/real-time-market]https://tinyurl.com/real-time-market[/url][/b]

    Wiber [2065939]

    looks good but not working atm. 
    Yes Torn had some issue with API lately, now should be fixed and back online

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    Posted on 18:59:57 - 19/03/19 (7 years ago)
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    This was really useful thank you
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    Posted on 12:01:20 - 29/03/19 (7 years ago)
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    Bump, 

    On the other hand.. guess I should start running camels, pandas got dethroned.

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    Posted on 21:43:03 - 15/05/19 (7 years ago)
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    Baldr [1847600]

    I think a lot of people who recently hit level 15 will benefit from this.  
    It really does!
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    Posted on 17:08:41 - 25/08/19 (7 years ago)
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    This deserves to be on the first page
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    Posted on 19:39:45 - 30/04/20 (6 years ago)
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    Great post! DocTorn travel is blank for me right now. Did it get taken away?
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    Posted on 20:54:38 - 30/04/20 (6 years ago)
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    Terronia [2129341]

    Great post! DocTorn travel is blank for me right now. Did it get taken away?
    There have been problems with the API today. Not only doctorn is affected.
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    Posted on 11:16:49 - 17/02/21 (5 years ago)
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    I needed to read this, thanks.
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    Posted on 12:32:27 - 17/02/21 (5 years ago)
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    Thanks a lot, a lot fo useful info. I have kind of figured this out n my own (for scheduling flights with sometimes training in between) and also avoiding being mugged (some countries you don't need to bring as much cash to buy plushies or flowers). As to the sets, haven't started trying to deal with that yet. Probably should look into that and see if it is worth arranging with traders to collect them either by flying to all areas or flying to some and buying the rest as needed.
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    Posted on 15:50:07 - 26/12/22 (3 years ago)
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    this is so complicated lol just trying to chill!
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