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    • Gholden [1786423]
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    Thread created on 04:30:48 - 15/11/17 (8 years ago)
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    Last replied 03:28:15 - 20/08/18 (8 years ago)
    I just finished reading "Ignorance is Bliss: Happiness can regenerate above maximum for 31 days" and I wanted to share my Happiness and SSL Training datapoints for those working on the happiness formula. Most people would have gotten their 99,999 happiness via E-Dvds and Ecstasy; however, I'm limited on the latter part since I'm currently in SSL. I got to 99,999 happiness by using E-dvds only (Yes, it took a few days ) and it provided some good datapoints for happiness and training.

    For training, I used SSL (25E) only and had the 9% bonus to Speed training from faction. My Speed is already over 50m so stat capped for training. Below are the results of training at different data points:


    HappySPD (25) SSL
    752579,262.3836
    1000080,543.1985
    1250081,560.1645
    1497482,402.7595
    1747483,122.4015
    1996183,753.5622
    2245184,312.9519
    2505684,844.8331
    2753085,301.9515
    3008285,742.3577
    3249386,132.2881
    3515586,524.0959
    3764286,874.2889
    4035487,229.8286
    4284187,544.5883
    4540987,846.3333
    4811988,157.2575
    5060488,426.2997
    5302088,675.9017
    5571788,949.1268
    5820489,186.2868
    6077689,424.3142
    6364189,680.6348
    6613189,899.5199
    6861690,113.6325
    7110690,317.9777
    7359690,520.0278
    7643390,736.4980
    7892090,929.4338
    8141091,112.1129
    8390991,291.8376
    8651091,481.0509
    8900091,651.0188
    9154291,826.6376
    9403391,995.4999
    9665892,166.7935
    9914392,329.1587
    9999992,382.4284
    Last edited by Gholden on 04:31:37 - 15/11/17 (8 years ago)

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    Posted on 19:29:21 - 08/03/18 (8 years ago)
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    Want to sponsor me so I can test these results out on lower levels?


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    • Vladar [1996140]
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    Posted on 23:29:59 - 11/08/18 (8 years ago)
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    This is great data!  You said you had 9% faction bonus, I'm guessing you had 2% from property and 2% from education, which (as I recently found out), would make for 1.09*1.02*1.02 = 1.134 (13.4%) bonus.  I used my spreadsheet  from my tutorial to see how close it really was for such a wide range of happy, and these were the results:

     
    HappyActual GainPredictedError (%)
    752579262.479342.80.10%
    1000080543.280612.90.09%
    1250081560.281625.40.08%
    1497482402.882455.80.06%
    1747483122.483174.40.06%
    1996183753.683800.70.06%
    2245184313.084359.90.06%
    2505684844.884887.60.05%
    2753085302.085344.80.05%
    3008285742.485779.40.04%
    3249386132.386161.00.03%
    3515586524.186554.40.04%
    3764286874.386899.10.03%
    4035487229.887253.30.03%
    4284187544.687560.50.02%
    4540987846.387862.30.02%
    4811988157.388165.50.01%
    5060488426.388431.20.01%
    5302088675.988679.40.00%
    5571788949.188945.60.00%
    5820489186.389182.00.00%
    6077689424.389417.9-0.01%
    6364189680.689671.5-0.01%
    6613189899.589884.7-0.02%
    6861690113.690091.1-0.02%
    7110690318.090292.2-0.03%
    7359690520.090487.8-0.04%
    7643390736.590704.6-0.04%
    7892090929.490889.7-0.04%
    8141091112.191070.5-0.05%
    8390991291.891247.9-0.05%
    8651091481.191428.3-0.06%
    8900091651.091597.3-0.06%
    9154291826.691766.3-0.07%
    9403391995.591928.6-0.07%
    9665892166.892096.2-0.08%
    9914392329.292251.9-0.08%
    9999992382.492304.9-0.08%

    I obviously have something a bit wrong with the slope of how happy affects things, since it starts out estimating a bit high and ends up estimating a bit low, but overall not a bad error... now I might want to tweak my formula!

    Thanks again for sharing!
    Last edited by Vladar on 23:31:06 - 11/08/18 (8 years ago)

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    Posted on 08:34:14 - 15/08/18 (8 years ago)
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    This is very interesting data indeed. If I ever get that book, I'll have to expand this guide with how great drug users gains can be in the other gyms with maxed out happy.

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    Posted on 15:48:58 - 17/08/18 (8 years ago)
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    Does rehab refill the happiness to 99k? 

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    Posted on 20:14:01 - 17/08/18 (8 years ago)
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    Vladar [1996140]

    This is great data!  You said you had 9% faction bonus, I'm guessing you had 2% from property and 2% from education, which (as I recently found out), would make for 1.09*1.02*1.02 = 1.134 (13.4%) bonus.  I used my [url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yR1VbChAyXujJ1biIxxXswMK5PCnLR20dQ6h6V1Vhaw/edit?usp=sharing]spreadsheet [/url] from my [url=https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=61&t=16003284&b=0&a=0]tutorial[/url] to see how close it really was for such a wide range of happy, and these were the results:   [table][tbody][tr][td]Happy[/td][td]Actual Gain[/td][td]Predicted[/td][td]Error (%)[/td][/tr][tr][td]7525[/td][td]79262.4[/td][td]79342.8[/td][td]0.10%[/td][/tr][tr][td]10000[/td][td]80543.2[/td][td]80612.9[/td][td]0.09%[/td][/tr][tr][td]12500[/td][td]81560.2[/td][td]81625.4[/td][td]0.08%[/td][/tr][tr][td]14974[/td][td]82402.8[/td][td]82455.8[/td][td]0.06%[/td][/tr][tr][td]17474[/td][td]83122.4[/td][td]83174.4[/td][td]0.06%[/td][/tr][tr][td]19961[/td][td]83753.6[/td][td]83800.7[/td][td]0.06%[/td][/tr][tr][td]22451[/td][td]84313.0[/td][td]84359.9[/td][td]0.06%[/td][/tr][tr][td]25056[/td][td]84844.8[/td][td]84887.6[/td][td]0.05%[/td][/tr][tr][td]27530[/td][td]85302.0[/td][td]85344.8[/td][td]0.05%[/td][/tr][tr][td]30082[/td][td]85742.4[/td][td]85779.4[/td][td]0.04%[/td][/tr][tr][td]32493[/td][td]86132.3[/td][td]86161.0[/td][td]0.03%[/td][/tr][tr][td]35155[/td][td]86524.1[/td][td]86554.4[/td][td]0.04%[/td][/tr][tr][td]37642[/td][td]86874.3[/td][td]86899.1[/td][td]0.03%[/td][/tr][tr][td]40354[/td][td]87229.8[/td][td]87253.3[/td][td]0.03%[/td][/tr][tr][td]42841[/td][td]87544.6[/td][td]87560.5[/td][td]0.02%[/td][/tr][tr][td]45409[/td][td]87846.3[/td][td]87862.3[/td][td]0.02%[/td][/tr][tr][td]48119[/td][td]88157.3[/td][td]88165.5[/td][td]0.01%[/td][/tr][tr][td]50604[/td][td]88426.3[/td][td]88431.2[/td][td]0.01%[/td][/tr][tr][td]53020[/td][td]88675.9[/td][td]88679.4[/td][td]0.00%[/td][/tr][tr][td]55717[/td][td]88949.1[/td][td]88945.6[/td][td]0.00%[/td][/tr][tr][td]58204[/td][td]89186.3[/td][td]89182.0[/td][td]0.00%[/td][/tr][tr][td]60776[/td][td]89424.3[/td][td]89417.9[/td][td]-0.01%[/td][/tr][tr][td]63641[/td][td]89680.6[/td][td]89671.5[/td][td]-0.01%[/td][/tr][tr][td]66131[/td][td]89899.5[/td][td]89884.7[/td][td]-0.02%[/td][/tr][tr][td]68616[/td][td]90113.6[/td][td]90091.1[/td][td]-0.02%[/td][/tr][tr][td]71106[/td][td]90318.0[/td][td]90292.2[/td][td]-0.03%[/td][/tr][tr][td]73596[/td][td]90520.0[/td][td]90487.8[/td][td]-0.04%[/td][/tr][tr][td]76433[/td][td]90736.5[/td][td]90704.6[/td][td]-0.04%[/td][/tr][tr][td]78920[/td][td]90929.4[/td][td]90889.7[/td][td]-0.04%[/td][/tr][tr][td]81410[/td][td]91112.1[/td][td]91070.5[/td][td]-0.05%[/td][/tr][tr][td]83909[/td][td]91291.8[/td][td]91247.9[/td][td]-0.05%[/td][/tr][tr][td]86510[/td][td]91481.1[/td][td]91428.3[/td][td]-0.06%[/td][/tr][tr][td]89000[/td][td]91651.0[/td][td]91597.3[/td][td]-0.06%[/td][/tr][tr][td]91542[/td][td]91826.6[/td][td]91766.3[/td][td]-0.07%[/td][/tr][tr][td]94033[/td][td]91995.5[/td][td]91928.6[/td][td]-0.07%[/td][/tr][tr][td]96658[/td][td]92166.8[/td][td]92096.2[/td][td]-0.08%[/td][/tr][tr][td]99143[/td][td]92329.2[/td][td]92251.9[/td][td]-0.08%[/td][/tr][tr][td]99999[/td][td]92382.4[/td][td]92304.9[/td][td]-0.08%[/td][/tr][/tbody][/table] I obviously have something a bit wrong with the slope of how happy affects things, since it starts out estimating a bit high and ends up estimating a bit low, but overall not a bad error... now I might want to tweak my formula! Thanks again for sharing!
    Let me know if you iron out something.
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    Posted on 23:23:58 - 17/08/18 (8 years ago)
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    this is the book im praying for to see the gains for the newer players from my working out 250E should gain bout 15-20k each time, until i receive this book whilst im new i cant 100% confirm this
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    Posted on 23:57:24 - 17/08/18 (8 years ago)
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    Does rehab refill the happiness to 99k? 
    Rehab doesn't affect it if it's above max
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    Posted on 10:50:38 - 19/08/18 (8 years ago)
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    I'm not sure about u guys but a 11% gain with a book and 10s of Edvds and ecstasy does it seem worth it for someone with capped stats?

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    oraN [1778676]

    I'm not sure about u guys but a 11% gain with a book and 10s of Edvds and ecstasy does it seem worth it for someone with capped stats?
    If I remember correctly, it's about the equivalent of +20% gains or so?

    I started the book below def cap but afterwards it was about average 102,500 per train when my book-less gains on strip went down to about 85k after it was over. Haven't actually done the math.

    But yes, it is a boost to stat gains even if you're capped. Obviously it won't be as much as a +30% gains book obviously but it'll still help. I gained 128m defense starting at 5m and ending up at 133m with that book, using 25e cans. So with higher cans or FHC it'd be higher. 
     
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