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    Thread created on 13:19:22 - 15/05/17 (9 years ago)
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    This can be done about 95+% of the time by looking at the basic profile page of the user, so Im going to show the method and explain why it works, firstly, lets take an example level holder, with key elements highlighted:



    1) Basic identification:

    Consider level holders are: people with an apparent low level (typically 15-20), but with a much higher true level. The consequence of this is that they will have more awards than normal (for level 15-20 if they are a level holder they will probably have more than 100 awards). Given that most level holders do it for the defends, a level holder will probably have won 500+ defends. Rank: of course a higher true level player will have more crimes, trained more battle stats and have a higher net worth, meaning that they will have a higher title.



    2) A second glance:

    If still uncertain about whether a player is a level holder or not, you should look at their title, and their level for a second time. Using some old data about titles:



    We can see there is a huge variation, but you need to consider what a level holder is most likely to be, they probably have a high number of defends won / stalemated, enemies run away, and could be bountied a lot, either intentionally or from egotists not liking level holders. Which gives you a slightly different graph:



    (where the 14% represents, antagonists, tanks, outcasts and intimidators).



    A second note on level: if you look across all players, some levels are much more likely than others, using old data, and new data:





    Its best shown by the Tornstats and Active level from Torn Graphs, that you can see a spike of players every 5 levels (5,10,15 etc), where you would expect a normal distribution, given that there are ~550,000 data points, but this suggests that players are more likely than they should be to be a level that is a multiple of five. This means that IF a player has a level that is a multiple of five, there is an increased chance that they are a level holder.



    Based on what a level holder is likely to be, I have compiled a list of (at present) 90 level holders, which only uses data from the immediate profile page. Data presented in a spreadsheet, and I am taking submissions for players to be evaluated then potentially added to the sheet.

    Thanks to cyberdude [1613175] and to Mauk [1494436] for making amazing graphing software!
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    Posted on 15:40:02 - 15/05/17 (9 years ago)
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    Nice guide phoenix, keep it up .

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    Posted on 16:30:50 - 15/05/17 (9 years ago)
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    You're right I should level up so it wouldn't be as obvious ;)
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    Posted on 14:30:19 - 18/05/17 (9 years ago)
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    This is amazing! The people need to know!R+
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    Posted on 14:54:08 - 19/05/17 (9 years ago)
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    Bump
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    Posted on 17:57:14 - 12/07/17 (9 years ago)
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    lets give this a bump
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    Posted on 01:51:34 - 19/07/17 (9 years ago)
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    Go to Detailed stats and check drug use and amount of refills.

                                                 

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    Posted on 05:50:00 - 28/07/17 (9 years ago)
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    shhh
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    Posted on 16:07:29 - 10/09/17 (9 years ago)
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    Magikarp [860829]

    Go to Detailed stats and check drug use and amount of refills.
    whilst detailed stats can tell you a lot and i will use tornstats to show specific stats straight from the profile page, I wanted to aim this at "dont have time to thoroughly check, lets scan the profile page then hit".

    Also, refills and drug use can be misleading,VaflioG [1900738] has used 725 refills and 900 age, but it all went into attacks
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    Posted on 04:53:24 - 11/09/17 (9 years ago)
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    Magikarp [860829]

    Go to Detailed stats and check drug use and amount of refills.

    Cursed [1901987]

    whilst detailed stats can tell you a lot and i will use tornstats to show specific stats straight from the profile page, I wanted to aim this at "dont have time to thoroughly check, lets scan the profile page then hit". Also, refills and drug use can be misleading,[url=https://www.torn.com/profiles.php?XID=1900738#/?_k=x8c9yy]VaflioG [1900738][/url] has used 725 refills and 900 age, but it all went into attacks
    I feel like checking titles/awards is a waste of time especially for new people who don't know what it means. All these graphs are confusing/pointless to newer people.

    You just need to look at age, xanny's used, refill, and whether they attack a lot or not( or just look at highest level beaten). That's usually what I check before attacking certain people.

                                                 

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    Posted on 22:58:22 - 12/09/17 (9 years ago)
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    I look at Rank & Highest level beaten personally, to work out if someone is a level holder.
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    Posted on 23:16:19 - 12/12/17 (8 years ago)
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    up
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    Posted on 00:08:36 - 04/02/23 (3 years ago)
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    If you’re not on the spreadsheet are you even a level holder? ?

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    Posted on 14:25:40 - 27/04/25 (1 year ago)
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    wtf

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    Posted on 12:24:59 - 15/01/26 (8 months ago)
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    5amuel [867675]
    Posted on 00:08:36 - 04/02/23 (2 years ago)
    If you’re not on the spreadsheet are you even a level holder? ?
     
    Why did you get a thumbs down on your comment?? I thought it was f**king hilarious! Looks like some people don’t understand sarcasm and have absolutely no sense of humor. Probably one of those guys out there creating trash guides that are full of misinformation that they so confidently boast about being an expert on 😂🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🥸🥸🤫

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